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The auto complete for the hardware keyboard (which I believe is modified).
Is quite annoying. I am on Cyanogen 7.6.2...
I tried turning it off through settings and no luck... It makes my typing much slower.
Is there a file to remove through terminal emulator or ADB?
Don't press the text field when the keyboard is open. A little trick I found out to stop it. If you disable it, you disable autocomplete on the VK.
I know that but that is plain annoying too
Kainous said:
I know that but that is plain annoying too
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Can't really do anything about it...
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Can't really do anything about it...
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if you turn off the HTC keyboard, you can disable it properly i believe
Would be awesome if there was a way to disable autocomplete for the hardware keyboard without having to disable it for the VK. I understand the reason why there's not such an option, as I assume the HTC_IME is really only available (in the wild) on phones that have no physical keyboard, so no such distinction is necessary.
Is this something that could be hacked or modified? I don't suppose there's source available for the HTC_IME?
Would be nice if there was an option as I much rather hte HTC_IME, especially in protrait mode for the phone keypad and T9. Best way is to get used of using the trackball to move into the text field instead of touching it to avoid prompting the auto correct when using the hardware keyboard.
Maybe someone might work on a more internal solution when the time comes.
Go into
Settings > Locale and Text > Touch Input
Disable Prediction and Word Completion
That will fix it
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Go into
Settings > Locale and Text > Touch Input
Disable Prediction and Word Completion
That will fix it
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I think the problem is that this also disables VK's autocomplete.
This problem is the reason why I went with the Chinese IME. I do use the Chinese part, but not enough to be the deal breaker. The HTC_IME has better portrait mode VK, but the autocomplete-with-hard-keyboard kept me from using it.
On Cyanogen's todo list, it says something about stopping interference with HTC_IME and the physical keyboard. I think he might have been talking about the autocomplete thing, not sure though.
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On Cyanogen's todo list, it says something about stopping interference with HTC_IME and the physical keyboard. I think he might have been talking about the autocomplete thing, not sure though.
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Yea i had seen and i hope its for that it annoys the crap out of me
Is there any possible way to have two different keyboards depending on orientation without having to set it? I would love Swype in portrait and Smart Keyboard or HTC_IME in landscape and not have to change it manually. I'm sure there are others who would agree >;] I'm guessing it would have to be a frankenstein mashup of two keyboards or if there is a way to add it into the OS.
This is relevant to my interests.
I think the best approach would be a customizable one so people can choose different keyboards because I won't want the same two as the next person. Just an idea to throw around if any devs are looking for new cool things to work on. >;]
I have really been wracking my brain as to how to make this work. I'm with you--Swype in portrait, stock in landscape. A mashup keyboard would be possible, if you could get the source from both. But that would be very difficult. The most feasible (and useful) way would be to have an app automatically change your settings for you based on orientation. There's no way to do this without root, though--no app has permission to change your keyboard settings. This would open a huuuuge security hole for spyware. So, we need root to directly access the configuration files and forcibly change from one keyboard to another. This is a huge can of worms to open, but it might just be doable. Any thoughts?
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I would like to see this as well! Though the stock keyboard for landscape is my preference. HTC_IME is a little too cramped for my tastes and the vibration lags a bit more.
YES SIR! I would love to see this happen. I use Smartkeyboard in Landscape and Swype in portrait. this would be SO helpful.
Man, I hate shameless bumps, but this would be a huge deal. I just want to get someone with some more skill to take a notice, so...
*shameless bump*
BUMP
10chars
BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!
swype in portrait...HTC in landscape....is it possible to delete stock android kb?
Someone make a app that lets you configure the keyboard for both based on your installed ones and sell it at $.99 and you'll make some good money.
(If you can do any of that)
+1 on willing to pay for my idea brought to life ^__^
good idea. would pay to see it. i love swype but hate the space bar placement when in landscape.
+1 i want this so badly!
Yeah this would be great... Normal swype method and landscape better keyboard or the default one.
Since apps are made to work together on android, would it be possible to make an app that basically would consider itself a keyboard and it would just choose one keyboard to run while in portrait and another to run while in landscape? Don't know programming too well, just wanna throw ideas out there..
+1 for this functionality
(Swype in portrait, stock in landscape)
great idea dev needed
+1 we need a dev to make an app that has settings for what keyboard launches in what orientation i dont think it would be that hard if we get someone who knows what their doing to make it id pay for it swype in portrait and htc ime in landscape for me just have the app let you choose from whatever keyboards you have installed for the orientation so everyone will be happy and be able to choose
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I would use this feature as well. I hope someone gets on this
i know
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I would use this feature as well. I hope someone gets on this
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thats why im putting it all over twitter asking everybody if they think its a good idea so hopefully someone will pick up on it and dev it up
Guys...
By now, the fact that no one has done this or looked into it, it should be pretty clear that this is not possible to do.
I've tried a lot of different keyboards on my phone and for a while I thought the HTC IME was the best and that's what I used as my primary keyboard, but on my last wipe I was feeling lazy and didn't install it and instead used the stock keyboard for a while and I was amazed at how much better it is!
I make way less errors on the stock keyboard, the key layout seems to make more sense, and the keys do a better job of changing based on context (such as changing the return key to a "Next" key in web forms or smile button in gchat). The HTC keyboard still looks the nicest, and I like that you can long press keys to get numbers and symbols, but I found it very annoying that while you can see the alternate symbols on the keyboard, pressing the alt key causes everything to shift over a key or two. I'm always chasing keys around!
I tried out Froyo for a while and the stock keyboard is getting even better! It shows common punctuation in the suggestion bar after completing a word, and it has a much nicer approach to adding new words to the dictionary. I hated how all my typos ended up getting added to the dictionary with the HTC keyboard.
Anyone else feel the same way?
I too have found the stock keyboard very capable. Especially for how accurate voice input is.
My only wish is that Google would allow you to enter a line break with the stock keyboard when composing an SMS.
I agree. Coming from an iPhone, I have no problems with the keyboard, and Froyo's keyboard is really nice!
Yeah the stock keyboard in Froyo is awesome, I still use Better Keyboard just because I like the look of it better and ive gotten used to the key placement, but stock is definitely awesome, once its themed I may switch to it. I dont use predictive text or anything like that though so those features dont really factor in for me.
I never got why the stock keyboard gets such a bad reputation. I wish you could pick different word choices after you move on from a word, but other than that I like it a lot.
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Yeah the stock keyboard in Froyo is awesome, I still use Better Keyboard just because I like the look of it better and ive gotten used to the key placement, but stock is definitely awesome, once its themed I may switch to it. I dont use predictive text or anything like that though so those features dont really factor in for me.
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Are you still using Better Keyboard with Froyo? I used it with 2.1, but since upgrading to Froyo, Better Keyboard doesn't seem to auto correct my words and isn't prompting me for alternate words like it used to. I'm uninstalled and reinstalled too and it hasn't made a difference.
I preferred Better Keyboard because of its key placement and the skins, but since I can't get the auto correct to work with Froyo, I haven't been using it.
Also using better keyboard here (on Eclair). Love the long press to get to most symbols. I find it better than the stock 2.1 keyboard.
Here's a good overview of the options out there:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-centrals-keyboard-roundup
I think the default is some pretty mean beef. I like the customisability of HTC IME, but even a totally stock keyboard seems better. I wish I could extend the space bar so it was massive though, thats the ONLY errors i make.
I don't know if it's the best or not; it's certainly good enough that I haven't had to use any others...
Definetly not as good as the "better keyboard". Multi touch without a delay when using sound and vibration. Something the default keyboard can't do, not even the htc one.
I use the numbered 1-9 keyboard using T9 since its so fast. But I never had a problem with the stock android keyboard. Some say its not good and auto correct doesn't work but I found it works perfectly.
Just fly thru your words, don't even have to hit exact keys, and it gets close to all correct.
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do yourselves a favor, and download swype.
trust me.
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do yourselves a favor, and download swype.
trust me.
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what he said.
honestly, i almost NEVER use stock anymore after using swype. in fact, i don't even use landscape anymore. all one handed, all fast, all the time.
swype is one of the first things i put onto a fresh flash.
and, when i do want a landscape keyboard, i use htc_ime.
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do yourselves a favor, and download swype.
trust me.
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I used swype for a while and it's pretty awesome. The best part about it is the fact that you can type quickly one-handed. Unfortunately I like to use voice input sometimes and there is no button for that on swype.
Better keyboard looks promising, but I actually haven't tried it. Maybe I will.
I still think that I can type as fast on the stock keyboard as I can with swipe. I find that I seem to spell out words as I type them, and swype forces me to think about the full spelling much earlier and it slows me down from time to time.
Tried stock, didn't like it. Then, SwiftKey, that was pretty awesome but not as good as Swype!
i really like smart keyboard pro. i really dislike having to do extra presses to get symbols :\ why cant the stock keyboard just let you hold and get a symbol?
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I used swype for a while and it's pretty awesome. The best part about it is the fact that you can type quickly one-handed. Unfortunately I like to use voice input sometimes and there is no button for that on swype.
Better keyboard looks promising, but I actually haven't tried it. Maybe I will.
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if you have swype, while a text field is up, hit menu>voice. works in handcent, anyway
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Anyone else feel the same way?
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YES
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do yourselves a favor, and download swype.
trust me.
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Disagree. Was just talking about Swype over here
I really like Swype, but there is just one thing that really spoils it for me. Entering words and text is just great. Love the way it works and I find it satisfyingly easy to enter text.
BUT when I have to enter logins into dialog boxes or URLs in an address bar on my N1, everything turns to Sh1t for me. I know you can still peck keys, but I keep finding it adds the wrong characters and symbols. It becomes such a PITA that I have temporarily stopped using Skype and have gone back to stock.
What I would like is a simple gesture like 3 taps of the Swype button to toggle swyping on/off. Then I could temporarily have regular keyboard behaviour for these short periods when I am not entering words.
So for now, I am with the OP. I reckon Stock is best.
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Disagree. Was just talking about Swype over here
I really like Swype, but there is just one thing that really spoils it for me. Entering words and text is just great. Love the way it works and I find it satisfyingly easy to enter text.
BUT when I have to enter logins into dialog boxes or URLs in an address bar on my N1, everything turns to Sh1t for me. I know you can still peck keys, but I keep finding it adds the wrong characters and symbols. It becomes such a PITA that I have temporarily stopped using Skype and have gone back to stock.
What I would like is a simple gesture like 3 taps of the Swype button to toggle swyping on/off. Then I could temporarily have regular keyboard behaviour for these short periods when I am not entering words.
So for now, I am with the OP. I reckon Stock is best.
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add your username and/or password to the dictionary. swype it.
Just wondering what some other Swype users think of the new gesture typing in 4.2?
I like that it matches the OS aesthetically, and the smoothness of the animation (as well as how it tapers as it fades)... but it doesn't quite stack up.
- I frequently find myself digging for characters I can long press on Swype.
- The gesture keyboard doesn't seem to recognize any gestures for double characters. My last name is Cooke and I I can't type it without getting Coke.
- Swype seems a lot better at giving me corrections for when its first guess is wrong.
- Swype just overall seems more accurate when I'm quickly moving through words.
What do you think? It's at least nice knowing the option is there should Swype ever end the Beta
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Just wondering what some other Swype users think of the new gesture typing in 4.2?
I like that it matches the OS aesthetically, and the smoothness of the animation (as well as how it tapers as it fades)... but it doesn't quite stack up.
- I frequently find myself digging for characters I can long press on Swype.
- The gesture keyboard doesn't seem to recognize any gestures for double characters. My last name is Cooke and I I can't type it without getting Coke.
- Swype seems a lot better at giving me corrections for when its first guess is wrong.
- Swype just overall seems more accurate when I'm quickly moving through words.
What do you think? It's at least nice knowing the option is there should Swype ever end the Beta
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
Double characters work fine for me. My understanding is that every word is a prediction when you use gesture typing, and predictions work off of the dictionary. So if the word you're trying to type isn't in the dictionary, then it won't show up correctly. In your case, maybe Cooke isn't a valid word according to Google.
I tried swype and gave up on it it was so innacurate - suggesting words that didn't even make sense.
The 4.2 keyboard has been excellent.. I'm not convinced it's any faster than just typing though.
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
Double characters work fine for me. My understanding is that every word is a prediction when you use gesture typing, and predictions work off of the dictionary. So if the word you're trying to type isn't in the dictionary, then it won't show up correctly. In your case, maybe Cooke isn't a valid word according to Google.
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I love it but it takes practice. I like the new jb version better than swipe..
Just a tip - go into your dictionary and shortcuts to the words that get misspelled.
I also love the voice typing.. If you have not tried it trust me, you will love it.
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I prefer it too Swype, double characters aren't a problem, in fact I prefer Google's system. No doing a swirl on a character, just let it figure it out for you.
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I find myself missing the long-press characters as well, in particular the numbers. I often type passwords with a combination of letters and numbers, and it's a pain having to switch back and forth.
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You can long-press the top row of letters to get numbers; no need to switch back and forth for alphanumeric passwords.
Also, 16 of the most common symbols are accessible via a long-press on the "." key. The most common one that's not on the main keyboard, ",", is the one that's accessed by just long-pressing "." and releasing it, which I thought was creative and very handy; the remaining ones are accessed by a long-press and then a slide to the one you want. I actually think it will work better than Swype for less-frequently used symbols once I get used to it, since I don't have to search the keyboard to remind myself which key I need to press for the one I want.
I think the gesture keyboard is just about as accurate as Swype in my usage, but I agree that the suggestions for a missed word aren't as good, and two alternatives is clearly not enough.
I don't think the bubble floating along above my finger as I trace adds any utility (for me, at least); I'm usually tracing fast enough that I can't read what it has recognized so far, and it's faster just to finish the word than to slow down to look and see if it has the correct answer yet. For people who trace slowly, though, I guess it would be helpful.
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I prefer it too Swype, double characters aren't a problem, in fact I prefer Google's system. No doing a swirl on a character, just let it figure it out for you.
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The more recent versions of Swype don't require looping on double characters, either, which was one of the things I really hated about earlier versions. In fact, I used other tracing keyboards (SlideIt, FlexT9) instead of Swype until Swype changed.
For me, typing with Swype y far better than using the 4.2 stock keyboard. The word recognition is much accurate. Using 4.2 Keyboard, I find myself retyping several times until the word that I want is recognized.
Cooke is in my dictionary for sure - the predictive nature of the keyboard does at least suggest it to come up after my first name.
Interesting that most of you prefer the 4.2... I'm curious, are you people who tried Swype and didn't like it, or people who have been using Swype as their default for the last year or so. It just might be differences in technique. I do it quite quickly.
Tony - I swipe as quickly as a fast touchscreen typer with 2 hands in landscape. The difference is that I get to do it one-handed in portrait. That, to me, is where the convenience lies.
One other features that I really miss when using Google's: after swiping in a bunch of words, Swype lets you tap on them in the text box and swap to the different suggestions. Google only seems to maintain the most recent.
Edit: Again, I don't mind doubling up on letters. The option to not do it is nice, for sure, but I prefer the accuracy.
The swiping feature on 4.2 looks pretty but I think it's not really there for the phone but rather for tablets. Pecking out words even in portrait on the N10 is unbearable for me. Swiping is the only way I can half way efficiently type out a sentence or post. Maybe if you have spider hands you can peck it out but I have a really hard time with it. I wish they would have just made the keyboard have the ability to split. I know there's other keyboard software out there that can take care of this, but none of them look like the stock keyboard. A minor point, but the stock keyboard look and layout is home to me. The other ones don't seem to mesh with the look of android as well.
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The difference is that I get to do it one-handed in portrait. That, to me, is where the convenience lies.
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My thumb isn't that coordinated! I trace pretty quickly, but only with the index finger of my right hand while holding the phone with my left. If I tried to do it with my thumb, I'd drop the phone for sure!
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One other features that I really miss when using Google's: after swiping in a bunch of words, Swype lets you tap on them in the text box and swap to the different suggestions. Google only seems to maintain the most recent.
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The gesture keyboard isn't much worse than Swype in that regard: if you double-tap on a word, you get a "replace" button that gives you a list of suggested alternatives, and nearly always what I intended to type is in that list (YMMV). The main thing I miss about Swype is that it remembers your cursor position: if you double-tap and correct an earlier word, when you're done the cursor goes back to where it was before you double-tapped. I'd really love to have that back (although I'm lazy and probably won't bother to install Swype on my N4; the gesture keyboard is good enough, IMHO).
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My thumb isn't that coordinated! I trace pretty quickly, but only with the index finger of my right hand while holding the phone with my left. If I tried to do it with my thumb, I'd drop the phone for sure!
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You should have your pinkie under the phone so it can't drop
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I've been using Swype since February or so. I strongly prefer the old Swype. The newer beta that was merged with FlexT9 no longer lets you swipe symbols, which was a killer feature. For example you could swipe from the key that held : as a long-press, and ) as a long-press, and it would give you a smiley as one of the alternatives. You could do this even with symbols that weren't shown as alternatives on the normal keyboard, as long as you added them to the dictionary, so you could do things like <hugs> if you wanted. Swype has so far not implemented anything remotely similar, and neither has Google. In fact, some of it has become even worse with the Google keyboard. Try typing "^^". I use all these emoticons a lot.
So I guess I'd say that I prefer the old Swype most, then the Google keyboard (which seems nicer than the new Swype beta to me), and then the Swype beta. I could never go back to picking out letters one by one. It's a lot more muscle movement and near-impossible to do while walking down a street or something.
That said, unfortunately my Nexus S old Swype APK is for 800x480, so it looks silly on an N4. I was planning to go find an xhdpi version somewhere, but I've been using the Google keyboard, and I'm fond of it just for typing out text. I'd be mostly happy switching to it if it did punctuation.
4.2 keyboard seems more accurate to me. Swype was more inaccurate for my use. Also I like how I can type normally and then gesture type when I want without switching keyboards. Also this is the first iteration of it and its equal to if not better than swype which has been in beta for like 3 years.
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I'd be mostly happy switching to it if it did punctuation.
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If you turn off word prediction, the bar at the top displays punctuation.
Assuming that's what you meant, of course.
I love the keyboard. I used Swype for a long time and this feels almost exactly like it except that the keyboard is great for tap typing and swiping. The word prediction has been fine for once I stopped trying to use it like a Swype keyboard and got back into the habit of sweeping again. I still tap a lot when I can use both hands, but for one handed typing its hard to beat swiping.
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The only thing i like about swype better is that it would automatically add words to my dictionary. With 4.2 i find the vocabulary a little more limited and and adding words manually is painful. Other than that i find it more accurate and faster, but I'm still on an old galaxy captivate patiently waiting...
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I tried swype and gave up on it it was so innacurate - suggesting words that didn't even make sense.
The 4.2 keyboard has been excellent.. I'm not convinced it's any faster than just typing though.
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I find the exact opposite. I find the stock keyboard to be very inaccurate when using the swype feature. I am using the real swype again now and loving it much more than stock. I guess you get used to one way when you've been using it a long time
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Accuracy is fine - perhaps even better. But "added words" sucks so far. I have to continually add things like "Down8" (my username here & other places), and it never seems to stick.
I'm sure Google's keyboard will improve, but I may end up on Swype until then.
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Accuracy is fine - perhaps even better. But "added words" sucks so far. I have to continually add things like "Down8" (my username here & other places), and it never seems to stick.
I'm sure Google's keyboard will improve, but I may end up on Swype until then.
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You're doing it wrong
i find the typing feature in Swype is better in 4.2, when of course I'm not swyping.
I prefer it over the 4.2 keyboard but maybe cause I've been use to Swype for over a year and a half now.
folks
my accuracy with both the build-in google keyboard and swype is not what it has been with other phones and I do have long fingers. Anybody else noticed that and found a solution with another keyboard type? Anybody moved to standard typing instead of gesture?
Thx
sam008 said:
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my accuracy with both the build-in google keyboard and swype is not what it has been with other phones and I do have long fingers. Anybody else noticed that and found a solution with another keyboard type? Anybody moved to standard typing instead of gesture?
Thx
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I find myself doing a mix of both... and for me it's a toss-up between SwiftKey and the stock Google keyboard, the main difference being available themes, really.
I have noticed a difference in accuracy as well, but I think it's because of the size of the device. It's probably just going to take some getting used to. Try SwiftKey, you can reduce or increase the size of the keyboard.
I have this issue as well.. With small words I'm fine but longer words .. Terrible!