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So I got the psx emulator even though the slide probably isn't the best device to be running the app on. Tried a few of my fave games and the larger roms (like GT2) are slightly laggier then the smaller ones (like Spyro 2). This is probably normal due to size.
I know this is the first release so its not a well pollished app but how much better do you folks think its going to get for us slide users? And is this the same experience the rest of you are having?
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took the app from 4shared.com amd game won't load. buying it tommorow tho, but it shouldnt run horrid thinking it might run smooth actually, not a fan of how you have to get the roms but hey it ps1 on the go right?
Update: Looks like my Bios was the issue, but works fine now. Games are pretty laggy tried overclocking but not sure it worked out to well, need to try something else. only tried spyro playable but not normal game play like you'd want. Wish we had hummingbird in this! *drools over keyboard* If FF7-9 work good enough for me then. but maybe in the future once its more polished it could become better but playing fighter games or very actiony games maybe not "amazing". Price you must pay for owning a mid-range device.
the games are wayyyy too laggy for slide imho. i just stick with the good ol snes emulator.
I think its the emulator that needs some work because I have heard it runs crappy on the Evo too, but for a work in progress you have to admit that its pretty impressive to be able to load a PSX game onto your phone. I have tried a bunch of different ROMs and so far the only one that is playable is Resident Evil Directors Cut.
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
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I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
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Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
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Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
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Ah crud. Well I'll probably be trying more things to see what is great. I wasn't really too excited about RE2 anyways. I never really had a PSX, so I didn't play a lot of these games. Of course I could just do it on the PC now, but... well, I do enjoy the slide.
About halfway through disk one of Final Fantasy 7. The game runs perfect on Fenix 1.8 OCed to 844mhz. Zero lag. The only issue is the sound but I usually play it in public places anyway so it's not a deal breaker for me. Even bust out the WiiRemote for a controller sometimes at home
can anyone let me know what games actually work on these phones i have tried
gamesloft ones but they wonr run, any first person shooters games and racing ones that work or just put in what ever games you have got working plz
All games by Hexage (Buka, Totemo, Everlands, Radiant ect) run very well (they are all 2D). SpeedX 3D also runs fairly well, not super smooth but definitely playable.
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can anyone let me know what games actually work on these phones i have tried
gamesloft ones but they wonr run, any first person shooters games and racing ones that work or just put in what ever games you have got working plz
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The "gpu" of magic is total crap, specially in stock android roms.
I have 3 3D games on my magic, 3D paper plane, Pool break and Speedx, they work pretty good, still they would lag a bit more on stock froyo, on sense 2.1 I get at least 5-6 fps more.
to OP, please search the forum first... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802221
To Serris.. are we to assume that the GPU changes with custom roms ;p
I have encountered some trouble with the latest darky's en Doc's romkitchen roms/kernels when it comes to 3D gaming. Some high end games run smoother on stock froyo then on rom's that are supposed to be smoother. An example is n64 emulator that just came out (Can highly recommend it, buy this thing!)
An other example is dungeon defenders first wave, which runs awesome on stock but has some hickups on Darky 9.3/9.2. Quadrant however seems to be better on custom roms en Kernels.
blah blah blah, MY QUESTION:
Which Rom/Kernal combination is best for 3d gaming?
Heard some good about Insanity? Anway lets get the discussion started!
Selfbump... Will flash all the major combination on Saturday to test n64oid, and dungeon defenders. Updates will follow.
n64oid? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for telling me about that! I miss n64 so much!! Especially Zelda and Bomberman!
I'm using Darky's 9.3 with DamianGTO's v1.1 Gold OC to 1.2ghz full ext2. I get 55.6 fps on most games which is perfectly smooth IMHO. I was told not to use setCPU with it though as it messes with the governor but I'm thinking it's a good idea to use just to set to performance for perfect game play, no set-on-boot settings.
Did you set up your lagfix to ext2 or ext4? They are both similar but ext2 doesn't have journaling and so it's faster in use but a little more risky if you don't have backups. Ext4 is slightly slower due to the journaling but with faster boot times and it's safer in case of a battery pull. (keep in mind, I'm using EXT2 flat, not like OCLF where it's ext2 on top of rfs)
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n64oid? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for telling me about that! I miss n64 so much!! Especially Zelda and Bomberman!
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No problem, Zelda is not running very good yet, but the devs told me they are working on it. So far Mario 64, Mariokart and Starfox are running ok on the stock froyo 2.2.1
I have rfs now because its stock, but I tried voodoo with ext4. I have nandroid backups, backuppro and even titanium installed so Ill try ext2 flat this weekend.
Thanks for the reply!
Starfox was a good game so were the other two. I'll be keeping an eye on this one and wait until it's fully ready before I buy just to make sure they can get my favorite games running well so I don't get disappointed
Yeah, RFS on this phone is horrible on any ROM. It just places so much on security that you can barely get anything done. Quite frankly, it's overkill on that front, so much so that the true power and efficiency of our phones is left unrealized. There is so much debate about ext2 vs ext4 but most people don't notice a difference anyway.
I have nandroid and titanium backup, that's enough for me. One to backup in case I screw something up or need to change CSC(been having issues with HSDPA not auto connecting) and one to restore apps and settings for when I change firmwares.
i started to play legend of zelda ocarina of time on comp because it was so buuuuggy to play on my sgs i9000 :/
edit. but still i recommend speed mod and im still comparing custom roms.
After update Zelda OoT is running pretty smooth! Starfox is running a lot better to!
Im on the newest Insanity with DamianGTO 1.1 gold Kernel and im getting around 2300-2400 quadrant without OC. Ext2 is working pretty good, made sure to backup my ****
I will try some other combinations, but for now I can say this is the best combination Ive tried when it comes to 3d Gaming and maybe even the overall experience..
Respect to the devs, and feel free to share your own experience
does the overclocking of the cpu give a major boost to 3d gaming or will there be smooth gameplay without overcloking???
Tried the 1200 mhz setting and there is definitly a boost in performance. With insanity and the overclock kernel I reached an quadrant of 2690
Im gaming without much trouble now on using the ultimate 8.0 rom with DamianGTO 1.1 gold kernel, without OC.. I got a lousy quadrant of 1100 with this combination, but im running most n64oid games without to much problems. Dungeon defenders first wave and Spectral souls are running silky smooth so apparently the quadrant score is not really representative.
Tried CM7 as wel, have to say im very impressed by the overall smoothness, but its still a bit to beta for my taste. Plus, this thread it about gaming, and some games are still incompatible with CM7. This will be the ultimate rom in 2 months though.. Mark my word.
So have the OP come to this conclusion that ultimate 8.0 rom with DamianGTO 1.1 gold kernel is the best rom and kernel for gaming?
Hi all,
For those already using the LG 2x as their daily phone, may i just ask how's the performance in terms of daily usage? Some reviews says it's speedy, so does benchmarks but i have also read reviews that said it should be much better considering that it's dual core and at times, there's some slight stuttering due to the custom froyo skin that LG has.
I'm presently using a Nexus S and it's smooth as butter running custom roms and oc kernel. I'll probably be able to sell off the phone at no loss and top up something like USD120 to get the LG 2x when it arrives in Singapore in the next 2-3 weeks.
Anyone here that have tried both phones and able to provide me with some insights on if i should bother switching? How's the real life use (browsing net, playing music, batt life while playing games etc) difference felt between the processing powers of the two phones?
As it is, the Nexus S can do everything i want except for those Tegra 2 only games. I don't really need a 1080 HD video capability, HDMI mirroring and the 16 Gig space, although limiting is not a deal breaker for me.
Has there been any indications that it'll be able to run custom roms and kernel soon? i know paul from modaco is looking into it at the moment.
Thanks all!
Hi there, I'm also considering between Nexus S and Optimus 2x.
Would appreciate any feedbacks from the users here.
About custom roms - Paul said yesterday that today would be available beta of clockworkmod for download, everything seems that O2X will be great phone for custom roms and stuff Probably there will be functioning Clockwork Mod and developers cooking even before you even get your O2x )
It is lightning fast, and much faster than the Nexus S on stock 2.3. I know because I tried them side by side.
The reviews are correct though, there is some stuttering. I'd say it's annoying as hell, but I'm an impatient guy when it comes to tech-gadgets. I'm sure it's only software issues that will be addressed, either by LG or by custom ROM's.
Sometimes it takes about 5-10 seconds to open the apps list when adding them to the home screen, and sometimes it's as quick as expected.
Sometimes it will stutter while scrolling but most of the time it's smooth as butter. You can clearly tell that there's nothing wrong with the performance because of the smoothness, but there are undoubtedly some serious flaws in the implementation causing intermittent stutter that needs to be addressed.
Playing games is as smooth as I've ever seen. It's simply amazing; There's no stutter or lag AT ALL, so the stuttering you see in the menus seem to be fairly isolated. So far I have tested Angry Birds and AB Rio in addition to Fruit Ninja + Samurai II from Tegra Zone. Samurai II on the TV looks better than a Wii game and is closer to PS3 to be honest.
Another evidence of the incredible performance is the Gallery app. My jaw dropped to the floor when I saw how quick and smooth it is. My Nexus One is like an old Sony Ericsson with Symbian in comparison. If you haven't tried an SE phone with Symbian, consider yourself lucky.
One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
the only problem i have with o2x is LG's poor implementation of the LG skin on it. LG's UI w/c i believe can easily be fixed by tweaks/updates or custom roms. that's why im quite happy that g2x will come with vanilla android froyo.
hope LG recognizes the 'MINOR' flaws and stuttering when on the menu/app drawer. but besides that, all other things like browsing, gaming, camera, texting, calling etc are Great and is superior than any other phones in the market as of the moment.
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One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
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Gingerbread isn't currently optimized to take advantage of the dual core devices either... Hence the information about a version 2.4 of Gingerbread dropping in April. http://goo.gl/b7P0g
I had mine for 8 days now and Im still not used to how fast it is!
My last phone was a HTC Hero, wich I really cant compare it to, but I have played around a lot with iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S and Desire HD and my phone eat em for breakfast. Mutitasking games like Angry Birds and Reckless Drivning is really fast and smooth.
Even though 02X dont have 2D accelerated graphics and iPhone 4 does, the smoothness in the menus are pretty much the same.
Amazing fast phone used my old desire (moved to my wife) and it scared the heck out of me found it very slow go figure lol
My son and I uses both the 2x and coming from desires...
Love the screen over the amoled great quality only notice with black when playing not a full screen movie... But the again almost not seen this...
Browsing the net is great and fast deciding which browser to use dolphin mini or opera the latest with flash.
Actually we found the camera great and the sound is great too...
Running myself launcherpro and the diskspace room 1.45gb to store apps beside the sd.
That's what i hated with my desire lol 148 mb
Battery life is building up nice now after 12 days 38 hours normal usage and heavy 8 hours...
lol and we have gorilla glass too
Bottom line an amazing fast phone just love it.
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The stutter/lag I saw some of seems to be as good as gone after upgrading with all the latest stuff from MoDaCo.
Ok guys just a quick one... Checked out the phone for quite a bit at the retail shop...
First Impressions...
It's both fast & slow at times. However believe that this should be able to be addressed via software eg custom roms etc... Games tried all seem smooth. Opening of apps at times there was lag but it was somewhat random and can't quite pinpoint. Other times it was fast.
Installed Golauncher, ADW and LauncherPro and all seemed to work alright. Do note was just a quick one at the shop...
For those into it...
Quadrand Std - 2600 - 2700 +
Linpack Score - 36 MegaFlops...
Neocore - er sorry don't recall & first time running it... 75???
Nothing else really significant to say except that in a nutshell this phone has potential...
Just bought it yesterday, posting from it now in fact. Absolutely love the screen and form factor, its perfect in that sense...however with touchwiz 3.2 it was just unusable. Went to overcome, didn't help still too slow.
I'm now on cm9 and its still just so damn slow. The browser isn't smooth at all, playing games like anomaly hd and shadow gun just aren't smooth and seem like they're running at 15 fps, and trying to play HD content just depresses me because it doesn't work.
So I feel like I'm stuck with an amazing tablet which is just useless.
Is the situation ever going to get better? Am I doing something wrong? Should I just sell the thing even though I only got it yesterday? I watched a million videos before I bought it so I knew what to expect but using it constantly is just a different story...
Thats tegra2.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
All hd games and content run fine for me. I'm on stock, not rooted. Using GO Launcher HD. Maybe I got lucky?
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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You can use SetCPU to adjust the CPU thresholds. It basically changes load at which the CPU scales up its clock rate, makes it more responsive, but wont make it faster at its peak.
Also, remember to make sure the CPU Governor is set to Interactive and not On Demand.
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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Tbh I don't think this is a fair argument, the thing shipped with honeycomb finalized and even had an update, neither of which was alpha software and they both sucked and were completely unusable. The fact that I had to root and am currently using cm9 just so that I can use the thing reasonably is ridiculous...
I'm using cm9 and it is a lot better but I still find that games don't run smoothly, scrolling isn't smooth and there's a lot of lag
I do have it over locked to 1.4 and have governor set to interactive as well as I/O set to snoop. Its at least usable now but its so disappointing seeing such an amazing piece of hardware gone to waste. It kills the iPad on every level but the software just lets it down so badly....
We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
As for HD movies I've tried dice player, mobo player vplayer and mx video player...only dice seems to give a decent framerate but still has a lot of slowdown. Some of the other players don't even play audio which is a bit weird, but that's probably my fault not messing about with the settings.
Any tips for sorting out the video? Or will tegra2 never be able to handle it? Because if that's the case this is definitely a waste of a very good screen and while it'll break my heart, will have to sell it...
EDIT: also is there any fix to get 3d gaming to run a bit faster? Will doing a system wipe, dalvik cache and cache partition wipe and reflash help you reckon?
Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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Don't use chrome it's slow.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
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You mean iOS is limited, that's why is smooth.
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Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Yeah I'm running westcrips resurrection ICS on my sgs2 and its incredible. Might have to hold out for a 7.7 instead, watching videos of it playing 1080p perfectly and its just upsetting me lol
If I can somehow tweak things so I can at least was 720p videos and play games smoothly I'll be happy. Its just that games aren't running smoothly at all, tried blood and glory, anomaly HD, shadow gun, fruit ninja thd, all very laggy as if they're running between 10-15fps, especially blood and glory.
Considering a wipe and reflash but doubt it will make a difference and really can't be bothered if it won't make a difference....
I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Doesn't seem particularly slow to me... I mean it's no iPad but it isn't as slow as most of the HTC devices I've used.
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I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
Once I cleared all Samsung's live widgets from the home screens, I found the home screen transitions to be generally pretty smooth on mine.
Most HD video chugs in SloMo though. Its depressing and sad. Not sure if ICS will do much, if anything to improve that.
Hopefully, Samsung will refresh the ~9in form factor in the summer with some version of Exynos.
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Yeah and my movies play well too. Idk I guess I got a super tab...
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