I am trying to run a 3 (UK) MSN/Live Messenger on my official O2 WM6.1 Kaiser. (The reason for trying is that with 3 (UK) the operator, your MSN messages doesn't count towards your data traffic; also I would like to experiment its battery drain compare to other MSN clients).
If I just log in Planet 3 (UK) (the 3 portal site), it wouldn't let me download its Live messenger client as my phone is not a compatible one. I changed my user agent string to SEW910i and downloaded the .jad file for W910i. I then removed the certificate portions (the last 2 lines) in the .jad file so that it can install on my Kaiser. It works but sometime the display is not quite way, but more importantly, only vibrate alert is possible but setting to Loud or Soft alert would still result in vibration only. I then modified the .jad file again so that instead of referencing the mp3 files from the 3UK website, it point to the local version (which I downloaded and place in the same directory as the .jad and .jar files) as:
AlertToneContact: online.mp3
AlertToneMsg: newmsg.mp3
However, it still doesn't work :-(
Is there anything I have missed?
May be I should have used the N95's version? Has anyone tried that before? Are they different? And what would be the best version?
Thanks!
SMS push on 3 Live Messenger
Also, one of the feature of the 3 (UK) MSN messenger which I Have tried on my other symbian phone is that even if the client is closed (not minimized), it can still be re-activated/re-launched automatically when new MSN messenges arrive (by listening to special SMS messages form the operator (3 UK)), if one didn't choose to sign out form the MSN server.
I notice in the .jad file there is such a line:
MIDlet-Push-1: sms://:3716, ui.Main, *
Is this a Symbian's Java virtual machine feature? Or is it a general java virtual machine feature?
deityuk said:
I am trying to run a 3 (UK) MSN/Live Messenger on my official O2 WM6.1 Kaiser. (The reason for trying is that with 3 (UK) the operator, your MSN messages doesn't count towards your data traffic; also I would like to experiment its battery drain compare to other MSN clients).
If I just log in Planet 3 (UK) (the 3 portal site), it wouldn't let me download its Live messenger client as my phone is not a compatible one. I changed my user agent string to SEW910i and downloaded the .jad file for W910i. I then removed the certificate portions (the last 2 lines) in the .jad file so that it can install on my Kaiser. It works but sometime the display is not quite way, but more importantly, only vibrate alert is possible but setting to Loud or Soft alert would still result in vibration only. I then modified the .jad file again so that instead of referencing the mp3 files from the 3UK website, it point to the local version (which I downloaded and place in the same directory as the .jad and .jar files) as:
AlertToneContact: online.mp3
AlertToneMsg: newmsg.mp3
However, it still doesn't work :-(
Is there anything I have missed?
May be I should have used the N95's version? Has anyone tried that before? Are they different? And what would be the best version?
Thanks!
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can i have the oridginal file you had?
Any progress on this?
Im trying to get it to work in Australia, but the 3 MSN java app is running but i cant see it at all.
I've tried the same app and found it very flaky
I have another slight problem, can I ask you to check - I can only login to MSN on 3 if I have a 3g connection.
Where we live the 3g connection is flaky and it refuses to login to MSN on GPRS :-(
Skype wise it works fine (they offer free skype-skype too) don't use their java client, look on this site for instructions how to configure the PPC / Wmobile iSkoot Client :0 tested and it's not used any data allowance.
Thanks,
I already have skoot running using my skype call allowance.
My Kaiser already has Live Messenger, but not the unlimited one.
Was trying to get it running as a pet project.
I have just switched to Three UK PAYG and have been searching around a bit. I am running a WM6.1 ROM on a Hermes.
So far I have managed to:
1) Use HTC Connection Wizard (downloaded via CRC's Device Update) to set up the internet and MMS settings.
2) Run the 'Identify as N95 (WM6.1).cab' (thanks to sub69 in this thread. 6.0 and 6.5 versions can also be found there.)
This allows me to access the My3 pages at http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/HutchKey
3) Install the 3 Live Messenger Java client. I am using the version 4.5, not the latest V5. Credits for modifying this go to therafiman at MoDaCo.
This is working with Esmertec Jbed, and is working for free as it is meant to.
'Windows_Live Messenger.zip' contains the .jad and .jar files, and only seems to work if both are copied to the phone and the .jad file is run.
The Java client is far inferior to the normal Windows Mobile Live client, but the normal client is not free to run. Additionally I have been unable to log on using the normal client over 3g. If I log on while connected to activesync or wifi then I can switch to 3g and keep it running, but this will be charging you.
I haven't looked at skype yet, because no one I regularly call uses it. However I have found these instructions which look promising despite the dodgy numbering system:
1) First you need to download the Iskoot version of Skype from www.iskoot.com. You'll need to enter your name & mobile number and select your phone type.
2) Once downloaded, install ISkoot on your windows mobile
3) Start up Iskoot but don't log in yet.
4) Exit Iskoot
3) Use a registry editor to change the following keys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE to "http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
BackupHost
CallUrl
DefaultSkHost
Pushhost (only if it exists)
4) Exit the registry editor and start Iskoot again. This time log in (mine logged in immediately - some people say their first log-in takes a few minutes).
5) That's it!. You can verify if things have worked by examining registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE\Cal lNumber. If ok, this should have been updated to either "123" on your first log-in, then to a number beginning +44783833...
Once you've made a few skype calls you should see that your credit / call-time balance / data allowance does NOT decrease.
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(instructions from Shaun L at www.3g.co.uk
If anyone has any luck getting the V5 Java Live Messenger client running on windows mobile then please post, or even better would be configuring the normal live client to use 3's free service.
EDIT
I'm attaching the WLM V5 .jad and .jar files.
These are unmodified, and downloaded using the N95 user agent in the previous post. Maybe someone knows what they are doing to modify the .jad and get it working.
jez83uk said:
I have just switched to Three UK PAYG and have been searching around a bit. I am running a WM6.1 ROM on a Hermes.
So far I have managed to:
1) Use HTC Connection Wizard (downloaded via CRC's Device Update) to set up the internet and MMS settings.
2) Run the 'Identify as N95 (WM6.1).cab' (thanks to sub69 in this thread. 6.0 and 6.5 versions can also be found there.)
This allows me to access the My3 pages at http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/HutchKey
3) Install the 3 Live Messenger Java client. I am using the version 4.5, not the latest V5. Credits for modifying this go to therafiman at MoDaCo.
This is working with Esmertec Jbed, and is working for free as it is meant to.
'Windows_Live Messenger.zip' contains the .jad and .jar files, and only seems to work if both are copied to the phone and the .jad file is run.
The Java client is far inferior to the normal Windows Mobile Live client, but the normal client is not free to run. Additionally I have been unable to log on using the normal client over 3g. If I log on while connected to activesync or wifi then I can switch to 3g and keep it running, but this will be charging you.
I haven't looked at skype yet, because no one I regularly call uses it. However I have found these instructions which look promising despite the dodgy numbering system:
(instructions from Shaun L at www.3g.co.uk
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which version of Esmertec Jbed is it working on with kaiser as there's a lot of different versions and i dont no which is compatible with my kaiser also installed it on my standard java application sines in but have to keep allowing things cant remember now but if i click bottom option keeps coming up again and again i click top option don't come back but either way i get 3 contacts or 5 online no more when i no there a lot more
cheers to any replies
On my Hermes I'm using Jbed Build ID: 20080610.2.1 downloaded from CRC's Device Update.
jez83uk said:
On my Hermes I'm using Jbed Build ID: 20080610.2.1 downloaded from CRC's Device Update.
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http //xdaonthree . tk
A website dedicated to all the above Xda Developers.
Thanks guys. Made my year!
Not allowed to post URLs as a newbie so will have to join the gap in the URL yourselves ;-)
foxtrotyankee
foxtrotyankee said:
http //xdaonthree . tk
A website dedicated to all the above Xda Developers.
Thanks guys. Made my year!
Not allowed to post URLs as a newbie so will have to join the gap in the URL yourselves ;-)
foxtrotyankee
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Hopefully it will help others in the future.
Heres a direct link for people if needed: http://xdaonthree.tk/
Nice idea
Really wish I could get hold of the three apps for Android now
damianiw said:
Nice idea
Really wish I could get hold of the three apps for Android now
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Is it the Iskoot for Android your after?
if so: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538306
My post has an Alpha/Beta that needs testing for Android.
upon request it was re-instated, there is an official version out there but i didnt get it to work properly, so i grabbed the original Iskoot for Android (non 3 version) and modified it slightly to incorporate the 3 uk settings
JavaAuthorizer
An excellent application if you don’t want to keep saying “Yes, allow NET access”
Thanks to the people who provided this.
http:// my-xda.blogspot.com/2009/10/change-untrusted-java-applications-on.html
Hi, can I somehow set ebuddy to the same settings and use it for free like windows live on 3 network?
Hello all,
Sorry for posting out here in the open but I need maximum exposure, I'm leaving here in 3 hours and I need to get this application loaded onto the phone.
I've tried a few different roms, currently got v19 pdacorner. No matter what I try when I try to load this application it is coming up with an error message from the company's website saying that the phone does not support java.
Is there any way to get around this?
The application is from a betting website, sportingbet.com, a few of us are heading off for the weekend to watch a match and I would really like to be able to have this working on the phone.
Thanks
*Thread Moved*
I'm guessing the site has a Java Applet, try using the Skyfire browser, I can't remember if it supports it, but it's the best chance you have.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
*Thread Moved*
I'm guessing the site has a Java Applet, try using the Skyfire browser, I can't remember if it supports it, but it's the best chance you have.
Ta
Dave
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The site sends a link to the phone where you download their software from but this error keeps coming up as soon as I try and download their application.
I tried skyfire, getting a different message now about restricted access, I take it that it doesn't like skyfire.
PLEASE NOTE, THIS THREAD HAS BEEN TEMPORARILY ABANDONED :-(
due to Iskoot stopping their "Iskoot for Skype" and the Three network starting to use a new client
the versions in this post DO NOT WORK, this thread will remain abandoned till i can find someone with a working Windows
Mobile version of the Skype for 3.
See you round the forums ;-)
ORIGINAL THREAD:
Hi,
Originally i created a small regmod cab which automatically puts the 3 UK Iskoot settings in so you dont have to bother, Now I have created a full installer cab which will install both Iskoot and the Regmod together.
This means no more faffing about installing the Iskoot and the Regmod, its all done for you in one nice CAB!
This little installer saves me a bit of time as I tend to update my ROM quite a lot, so it saves the need for installing a regedit program and manually entering/copying the values into the registry.
Additional:
I do tend to use the Iskoot app quite a lot, infact its the main form of communication between me and my wife, so if you have any issues just post and i'll do my best to replicate the problem and solve it.
Full installer instructions
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1. make sure you have .NET CF 2 or higher installed, and the Time is correct.
2. Install the Iskoot for 3 installer CAB (Link at bottom of post "iSkootfor3UK-DANH2009.zip")
3. Sign in
4. Use Iskoot
Regmod Installation:
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1. install all prerequisites -> Iskoot, .NET CF 2 (or higher)
2. Run iskoot and accept all the T&C's
3. Exit ISkoot
4. Run Cab file, use all defaults upon installation.
5. Run Iskoot and log on
Android Install
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Note: reposted my APK due to request =)
Warning... it is extreme beta, and I have stopped working on this for the moment.
APK is available at bottom of this post as an attachment.
also i didnt realise that the original 3 Iskoot APK was already available on here.
Link can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4959862&postcount=1
Technical Gore (regmod):
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This CAB file makes the following modifications to the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\iSkoot\Skype\Device]
"BaseUrl"="https://skype340.three.co.uk"
"UpdateFrequency"="1200"
"PushHost"="http://skype340.three.co.uk:8880"
"SkypeOutEnabled"="1"
"DefaultSkHost"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"CallUrl"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"BackupHost"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"WLanPassword"="wifidemo2"
"WLanUserName"="wifidemo2"
"WlanServer"="dev10.iskoot.com"
"VersionRestrict"="N"
"IsPushEnabled"="N"
"ChatMsgHistorySize"="8"
"ChatMsgOldHour"="2"
"SoundFile"="\\Windows\\online.wav"
"Language"="EN"
"DriverName"="PocketPC"
"MaxChatSize"="10"
"MaxChatSession"="10"
"PropertyFilePath"="\\IskootIni.txt"
"ClientVersion"="1.1.54"
You may notice that a few entries are missing, most are unneeded at the point of install and connection, the needed ones will automatically be picked up upon connection to ISkoot.
Bugs Regmod:
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on installer it asks for a path (device/card), i thought id disabled the choice but its still there.
upon installation the installer reports that the cab file wasnt made for the phone, im looking into how to get rid of this.
Bugs for Full installer:
teeny tiny issue - no alert sound is set for incoming messages.
to fix go to sounds & notifications -> notifications and give ISkoot something to play!
I'll correct this asap.
Revision information Regmod:
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V0.1
Installation of Regmod stopped skype functioning due to the "firsttime" entry being filled.
v0.2
working, and tested quite a lot.
ommited callnumber as this is picked up from network.
Revision information Full Installer:
v1.0 (possible final if all is well and no bugs are found)
Added various registry links, got installer to copy regmod into my docs incase you need it again.
managed to overcome bug which iskoot crashed on the full installer when receiving calls.
Troubleshooting:
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Unable to connect issues:
1. Time/Date incorrect
1A. Correct your time (start -> Settings -> Clocks and Alarms)
2. .Net compact Framework not installed
2A. Install .NET Compact Framework (google search .net CF and you should find the installer)
Reliability mod:
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I have found that if you set the data connection to "always on" it seems to make messaging more reliable.
You can do this by getting Kaisertweak and enabling "Always on: 3 internet"
If there are any other issues just post.
If you like my work and want to buy me a whiskey Click Here
Mirror for Full installer: Iskoot for 3 uk (4shared link)
Thanks for this, I too flash regularly and left iskoot on the shelf because of it
Only annoyance I find is that where I live 3g signal is poor and it doesn't seem to connect over GPRS (Windows Live Mobile has the same problem - the java free on 3 version & official .cab windows live mobile one!)
I guess they block some traffic over gprs
Anyway - this is a keeper thanks
Thanks for this, I too flash regularly and left iskoot on the shelf because of it
Only annoyance I find is that where I live 3g signal is poor and it doesn't seem to connect over GPRS (Windows Live Mobile has the same problem - the java free on 3 version & official .cab windows live mobile one!)
I guess they block some traffic over gprs
Anyway - this is a keeper thanks
Danh2009 said:
Hi,
Ive created a small easy to use CAB file which Automates the input of the neccessary Registry modifications for using ISkoot for Skype on the "3" Uk network.
This little installer saves me a bit of time as i tend to update my ROM quite a lot, so it saves the need for installing a regedit program and manually entering/copying the values into the registry.
Installation:
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1. install all prerequisites -> Iskoot, .NET CF 2 (or higher)
2. Run iskoot and accept all the T&C's
3. Exit ISkoot
4. Run Cab file, use all defaults upon installation.
5. Run Iskoot and log on
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If there are any issues just post.
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I have installed as described but during login iskoot shows a message "CURRENTLY UNABLE TO CONNECT". It was running ok before i hard reset. Btw I have .net CF 3.7 pre Installed with my modified rom. Please help........
EDIT: i removed i skoot, reinstalled .net cf 3.7 as i cant install 3.5. reinstalled iskoot and ur cab. but no luck
a few checks first:
Did you run Iskoot and accept all the terms and conditions before installing the cab?
also, are you using iskoot in the UK?
I have no problem with the installer, I just used it last night and it worked fine.
may be worth while using the Netcfg app to force iskoot to use net CF 2.0 as Ive never properly tested with 3.7, it seemed to work last time I used a cooked rom with 3.7.
Danh2009 said:
a few checks first:
Did you run Iskoot and accept all the terms and conditions before installing the cab?
also, are you using iskoot in the UK?
I have no problem with the installer, I just used it last night and it worked fine.
may be worth while using the Netcfg app to force iskoot to use net CF 2.0 as Ive never properly tested with 3.7, it seemed to work last time I used a cooked rom with 3.7.
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I also used with same cooked rom last time, WORKED PERFECT!!! yes, I accepted all terms and conditions first and before login i exit iskoot and i am using UK 3 network. but after this hard reset this issues came up...
I also can not downgrade to 2.0 or 3.5
SCREWED!!!
EDIT: Just updated time and date and started working
Dont really know whether it this the main reason!!!!! STRANGE!!
tapash said:
I also used with same cooked rom last time, WORKED PERFECT!!! yes, I accepted all terms and conditions first and before login i exit iskoot and i am using UK 3 network. but after this hard reset this issues came up...
I also can not downgrade to 2.0 or 3.5
SCREWED!!!
EDIT: Just updated time and date and started working
Dont really know whether it this the main reason!!!!! STRANGE!!
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LOL, that old chestnut... I didnt even consider the time and date!!
it seems ISKOOT implants the time/date into the registry on first run, and I think it pulls it from the server, so if your time/date didnt closely match the server's it would throw a paddy.
this was one of the issues I was up against when I created the CAB, if I set the "firstrun" entry to a date it would only work for a day or so then it wouldnt connect or send messages properly.
when setting a date in there it meant I could run the cab file without prior opening of ISKOOT (Thus getting rid of step 2) but I hit the above issues!
Maybe I should update my first post to:
1. check time and date are correct!
Well done on sorting it.
hi
ihave instaled iskoot and when i went on my programe i could not find the program any help pleaseeeeeeeee
iSkoot
iSkoot works fine for me,
Install iSkoot, launch once, no need to login, exit (make sure it's not running in the background) then use the regmod to apply Three UK settings
Files I used attached
Using PAYG UK 3 Sim w/ Kaiser and iSkoot
Thanks Danh2009 for your great cab, it was very useful and extremely easy to install!
After some initial head scratching, the advice posted on changing the first run date also did the trick to get me logged in without any 'unable to connect' errors.
The only issue I'm finding is when I attempt to skypeout to a UK number I get the notification 'Call Failure - You can only make calls to numbers abroad'. The test skype line and presumably non UK number are fine.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
My thoughts are that it is perhaps related to the automatically assigned +447838... 'callnumber' as this is the only thing that might be variable between difference users who have also used this registery mod cab. Perhaps someone who is able to make skypeout uk calls could let me know their 'callnumber' (mine is +44783838333870) but other posts have suggested other numbers differing on the last digit.
Unfortunately all UK numbers are blocked by 3, they would be at a loss if everyone topped up their skype to make phonecalls and not their mobile!
there is no workaround that I know of.
If there was a workaround you wouldn't be calling the free 3 iskoot callnumber and therefore would get charged.
hope that helps!
Thanks for the clarification Danh2009! The documentation on the 3 website was ambiguous or absent and my brain had filled in the blanks with colourful brainfluff.
So I guess (not knocking it, still great!) this limits me to making up to 4000 mins of calls per month using iskoot to skype contacts only (skype to skype as advertised).
If I want to use skypeout or skype in then I download the 'official' skype WM program, which will then let me use these facilities, but this will use up any data allowance I have.
Help on explaining how to update the time and date, after installing iskoot, please??
damianiw said:
iSkoot works fine for me,
Install iSkoot, launch once, no need to login, exit (make sure it's not running in the background) then use the regmod to apply Three UK settings
Files I used attached
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Hello there,
sorry i have installed the iskoot and the regmond .cab file as you've explained but i am also getting the unable to connect message...i've read the post that says that what is needed is to update the date and time...can anyone, please explain how to do it...step by step...thanks
regards,
.NET CF Installed?
jamapalu said:
Hello there,
sorry i have installed the iskoot and the regmond .cab file as you've explained but i am also getting the unable to connect message...i've read the post that says that what is needed is to update the date and time...can anyone, please explain how to do it...step by step...thanks
regards,
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Is your phone set to the current date and time?
if it is you shouldnt have a problem, the only other thing i can think of is if you havent got .NET Compact Framework 2.0 or higher (i think 3.5 is the standard at the moment).
also:
to change the time go to start-> settings -> clocks and alarms and set the time and timezone there.
Hope that helps
now working!!!
Hey,
thanks for your reply.
The clock and date are set to the current time and location...but it still give me the error message...
I installed .net cf 3.5 but it still doesn't work...
then i tried the registry editor and found there the 'first time' field and erased it....tried again and ....voila!!! skype working...hope that continues to work...
thanks a lot for your help for your precious posts.
best regards,
spoke too soon...
jamapalu said:
Hey,
thanks for your reply.
The clock and date are set to the current time and location...but it still give me the error message...
I installed .net cf 3.5 but it still doesn't work...
then i tried the registry editor and found there the 'first time' field and erased it....tried again and ....voila!!! skype working...hope that continues to work...
thanks a lot for your help for your precious posts.
best regards,
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made a skype call to a skype contact and it charged me 20p which is the network charge to call another network...any reason for that?
thanks,
jamapalu said:
made a skype call to a skype contact and it charged me 20p which is the network charge to call another network...any reason for that?
thanks,
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The only reason I can think for it to charge you is if you had the Callurl wrong or even the callnumber wrong. But if they were wrong then Iskoot shouldnt work, either that or you have skype installed instead of Iskoot.
my settings are:
Callnumber +447838333880
Callurl http://mobile.three.co.uk/948 (as set by Regmod cab)
Check out post #9 by Damianiw, he has attached the latest Iskoot Cab, it may be worth while reinstalling Iskoot and re-installing my Cab.
Good luck
iskoot working!!!
Hey man...you're a star!
my skype is finally working with my diamond...thanks a million for the help Danh2009...i appreciate it a lot!
Cheers
Iskoot on TPC 28002 stock rom issue found?
Just a brief update which im wondering if anyone else is having this issue.
when using Iskoot on TPC's 28002 stocklike and Ultimate rom i think iv found an issue.
when typing a message it tries to predict the next word and starts adding uppercase characters randomly into the message!
a biT liKe thIS!
The issues do not exist when doing a text message or an email.
ive tried:
Changing .net versions via NetCfg (3.5, 2, and default)
reinstalling iskoot, & regmod
flashing radio, and rom (hence stocklike and ultimate comment above)
checked regional settings
anyone else think of anything?
EDIT: Seems to be an issue with TPC's ROM as he has confirmed there are issues with bad files.
Apologies if this is classed as a *Bump*
BUT:
New version is up, full installer.
Read the first post for more information.
-Dan