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Backlight turns on, then after delay, message or call arrives

Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!

Gas Addict said:
Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!
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I have this too....I don't really mind though. I see it light up on my desk, look down, and watch my email/message appear.
I'm on Dutty's v4 and .11

Same experience here.
As long as this isn't the case with telephone calls, I can live with it
Having a 5 second delay on answering a phone call could make you miss the call...

dont really se the problem tbh, the phne wakes up when it starts receiving the message and then notifies you when its arrived - the lag you observe must be simply he time it takes to download the message?

Happens to me every time. I see my phone light up, and know I'm getting a message. When I get a call it lights up and instantly shows who's calling.

I agree this isn't so much a problem. I see it as FAD (Functioning As Designed).
See what happens is the Tower Sends a signal to the Phone saying (Incoming Call/Message Heading your way). It Wakes Up checks its Registry for What you set your Ringtone as. Tower passes the Call and It Rings. You Hit the Green Phone and You are connected YAY!
Now Messages are a tad different. The Phone wakes up looks for what your Message Alert Tone is. Tower Passes the Message. The Phone saves it, makes it into a readable format (If you have Threaded SMS adds it to the proper thread) and Notifies you that all is ready.

Same here, I like it. I can pick up the phone before it makes sound and have the phone already in my hand when the msg is showing up.

no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.

same here
i see no problem in this

snathanb said:
no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.
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I loved that!
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
RIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGG

OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)

Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.

Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Yes I had a friend who went to the dark side and had a iPhone It was indeed LOUD. Never thought of suing Apple for it.
~~Tito~~ said:
Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.
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Well Think about that statement how many iPhone users are smart? Most are trend followers and don't know much about speakers probably got sold to them by some "winner" at Big Buy.

I have the same problem.

on mine too, but only for messaging.

Same problem for messaging and calls. I pretty think this glich is for all HTC phones. Seen this on HTC touch too.

I've had many different PDA phones over the last five years and used many different cooked ROMS (starting off with the original WM2003) and this has always been the normal behavior. Must be by design.

Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.

Gas Addict said:
Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.
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I would agree with that statement. My wife's razr lights up and rings instantaneously...but has the functionality of my big toe.

Alright Lets Put an End to this. this ISN'T a PROBLEM. Its how Phones Work If they are "asleep" or not in "Full Operation Mode" then it must "Wake" to fully operate the processes that are needed to do what it is asked. Start a Call, Receive a message, etc etc.
And just FYI, My Old V3 Razr would Turn on The Front screen a couple seconds before I received a message or a call.

Thinking of getting it

Hi everyone, right whoever has this HD7 can you tell me what its like? I'm really not sure if I should get this or the omnia 7, they both look great. Thanks for ya time.
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liverpoolfchero said:
Hi everyone, right whoever has this HD7 can you tell me what its like? I'm really not sure if I should get this or the omnia 7, they both look great. Thanks for ya time.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk
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I just picked up one, its sweet. Go into any mobile shop and give it a test drive. I love mine.

I have had the HD7 for 4 days now and I am very impressed, however I also recognise that WP7 is very much a version 1 operating system and there are still a) a few bugs (nothing catastrophic) and b) some missing features. The promise is here though so if you don't mind a bit of "early adopter pioneering" go get one

if MS does not deal with the missing features and the bugs SOON I am selling mine again.
to name a few:
- No manual IP on Wifi
- No own ringtones
- no .avi container support - synch of 350mb movie takes aprox. 20 minutes.
- everything over 20mb needs to go over the marketplace (what do i have an unlimited data plan for?)
- no usb-hdd support
- no copy&paste (personally not missing this though)
- no proper multitasking. you can go back, but how do you go forwards?
- ringer only vibrates once, email sounds delayed
... i could go on

pencilcase said:
if MS does not deal with the missing features and the bugs SOON I am selling mine again.
to name a few:
- No manual IP on Wifi
- No own ringtones
- no .avi container support - synch of 350mb movie takes aprox. 20 minutes.
- everything over 20mb needs to go over the marketplace (what do i have an unlimited data plan for?)
- no usb-hdd support
- no copy&paste (personally not missing this though)
- no proper multitasking. you can go back, but how do you go forwards?
- ringer only vibrates once, email sounds delayed
... i could go on
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What do mean by everything over 20Mb must go over the market place?

all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.

pencilcase said:
all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.
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I think you'll find this is not just WP7 Devices, all smartphones these days do that including the iPhones, I suppose it was to cut down on the traffic and stuff on our carriers networks that are already overloaded with stuff.
Not saying it's right but that's the way it is.

ThePhoenix2007 said:
I think you'll find this is not just WP7 Devices, all smartphones these days do that including the iPhones, I suppose it was to cut down on the traffic and stuff on our carriers networks that are already overloaded with stuff.
Not saying it's right but that's the way it is.
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Yeah, I remember reading somewhere about the carriers (including O2) having panic attacks about networks overloaded by legions of downloaders.

pencilcase said:
all downloads coming from the marketplace that exceed 20mb in size need to be downloaded with Wifi or over zune/cable.
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This is very unfortunate! With my former HTC Desire running a custom rom (DeFrost) based on the ofiicial Android 2.2, I could download 136 MB on 3G, it was DeFrost roms, with were available through his DeFrost setup Tools. I never had an issue because the download speed was crazy fast! But I had to be in an area of very good coverage (all signal bars in the green) to have it within 20-25 minutes (sometimes up to 40 minutes). I used to do it during lunch time and flash from sd-card on my way back to the office. It's the only feature I miss from the Desire: the simplicity of the flash process, provided you have a custom recovery image, in my case, Clockwork recovery image.
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I've had mine for just over a week now and am thinking about returning it and getting a Omnia 7 instead, It has that reset bug that HTC said about, and the physical buttons on it are extremely annoying, none of them have a 'click' to them so you can never tell if your pushing it enough to activate it, also you end up pressing buttons without even noticing, I often end up launching the camera just because my finger rests on the button and activates it for example.

i love my hd7 so much but i would say this, if i could swap it for a 16gb omnia 7 i still would but i could not live with only 8gb even if there would be a work around, and i am to impatient to wait and see if anyone will stock it.

i pre-ordered HD7 for US Tmobile but i'm considering to cancel it and wait for the dell venue pro
people who got the device, what would you do ?

I am very pleased with the hd7, the feel of quality in the hand, the superb big screen together with those 16gb give it the edge IMHO.

adesonic said:
I am very pleased with the hd7, the feel of quality in the hand, the superb big screen together with those 16gb give it the edge IMHO.
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This is also how I felt for the first couple days, but after you've had it for over a week like I have you might start to get frustrated with the problems I've had.

Milky1 said:
I've had mine for just over a week now and am thinking about returning it and getting a Omnia 7 instead, It has that reset bug that HTC said about, and the physical buttons on it are extremely annoying, none of them have a 'click' to them so you can never tell if your pushing it enough to activate it, also you end up pressing buttons without even noticing, I often end up launching the camera just because my finger rests on the button and activates it for example.
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Some other people have reported very "soft" hardware buttons (volume in particular) that are a bit mushy, and therefore hard to tell if you are applying enough pressure. Some people have swapped their HD7 for another one for this reason.
My own HD7 thankfully doesn't seem to suffer from this as the volume keys have a definite "click"-feel when pressed, so you can tell that you're pressing them right even if it's in your pocket.
Same with the camera button on mine; it's a 2-step camera button and you have to press fairly firmly to get the camera to activate. I've yet to accidently initialise the camera.
My HD7 is an O2 branded one in the EU with the dark gray chrome-like band. Perhaps the HD7s with the brighter chrome band suffer from this?

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Some other people have reported very "soft" hardware buttons (volume in particular) that are a bit mushy, and therefore hard to tell if you are applying enough pressure. Some people have swapped their HD7 for another one for this reason.
My own HD7 thankfully doesn't seem to suffer from this as the volume keys have a definite "click"-feel when pressed, so you can tell that you're pressing them right even if it's in your pocket.
Same with the camera button on mine; it's a 2-step camera button and you have to press fairly firmly to get the camera to activate. I've yet to accidently initialise the camera.
My HD7 is an O2 branded one in the EU with the dark gray chrome-like band. Perhaps the HD7s with the brighter chrome band suffer from this?
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Mine is O2 UK and it has a dark band, and every button is completely soft, I don't know if it would annoy everyone but it drives me insane.

Odd! Mine was an O2 one... the only mushy button was the camera button. Never accidentally launched the camera app, but the Search keeps randomly appearing.

Milky1 said:
This is also how I felt for the first couple days, but after you've had it for over a week like I have you might start to get frustrated with the problems I've had.
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thats EXACTLY my opinion

I evaluated the HD 7 and found the absence of adequate configurable options most disappointing.
1. Unable to disable the haptics (vibrate on key press)
2. Unable to configure own WiFi settings, which means NO access to known hidden networks such as mine at home.
3. Level of java application support unknown
4. Co-Pilot not supported with localised maps when travelling
5. No MicroSD memory expansion
6. No file browser
That was enough to put me off ... although it is a fast and sleek new interface almost mimicking the i-phone monkey-see-monkey-do interface (dummies phone but vastly improving on WinMo, although so many things have dropped away such as the wifi router etc.
A great phone, but not for someone expecting more from their phone out of the box such as the HD 2 for example.

Is the GPS fixed by Google?

I know this seems odd but the GPS seems fixed; without tampering with the settings. A friend bought a Fascinate so we started comparing crappy GPS. While his had him in Eastern Europe, mine was dead on accurate. It was like it wasn't the phone I've been using for months that couldn't keep a lock in the middle of a field on a sunny day.
I was running JH7 and started using the GPS every chance I got and it never lost a lock and usually locked in 30 seconds or less. The Fascinate also isn't having any problem after he got the market app to connect.
It's been almost two weeks and it's still working perfectly. I'm in my basement and it's locking me within 80ft right now; which I consider pretty good for being underground. I've never changed the settings so I had no idea why it started working.
Anyway; I bought my wife a Focus and spent a lot of time in AT&T stores while she SLOWLY shopped for a phone. Two different stores both told me that the GPS is fixed. I blew it off as not caring (see below comments about Froyo) but even the display model was locking fast and finally got 'in' the building after a minute. 3 reps at two different stores told me it's been fixed.
What I don't understand is they both stated the fix didn't come from Samsung. It came from an update of Maps over the last month. Maybe they were versed.
So my GPS magically works now. I ocassionally get a larger blue circle but most of the time have no range of error. It does sometimes jump in fast turns like i'm going straight but corrects itself before Navigation gets a chance to re-route.
Is anyone else seeing this?
Lastly; one guy was irritating me with arguing with me why I was telling my wife she'd want more space then the 3GS 8GB offerred. I tried to annoy him and started badgering him about my Froyo. His response is below.
"Don't know and don't care! We sell the phones as is and don't care if they ever get updated as they are great phones as is"
Coming from a corporate AT&T store making this comment didn't appease me. His comment, and the announcement well be the only non-froyo galaxy by month end led me to put Cognition on the phone again.

i did read that the US govt was preforming some tests on GPS satiltes lately and some people in the mid (EAST??) Us would experiecne problems

As much as I want to believe a fix is coming, I've given up on it. Keep in mind I live near Baltimore, MD, and my GPS has always been 'good enough to barely get me turn-by-turn directions.'
The update you are referring to (as well as most people whom first claim an update fixed GPS), is a google maps update that allows path prediction. The best way to test this is to take your phone for a drive with MyTracks, but there is an easy way to test the prediction vs. actual performance.
If you are driving along a road (lets say you get to 40mph+) and are coming up on a red traffic light or stop sign; proceed and then try to stop fairly quickly (please be safe). Immediately look at your phone for your location, and you will notice your arrow being way ahead of you, and it will start working its way back to your current location. The same thing will happen if you take a right-turn detour from your projected route (it will show you go straight past, and then try to work it's way over to finding your actual location). The stronger lock you have, the more responsive this will be.
Either way, I'm fortunate enough to have a Garmin for road trips since the captivate generally has trouble keeping me tracked with a decent level of accuracy.
FYI: For my trips, it's all outside Baltimore. No big buildings, clear day no clouds, etc.

Droid 3 GPS Issues

I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?

I, too, have the same issue with GPS. I use SportyPal Pro, and cannot use my Droid 3 when running/walking. I can go for a 5 mile run, and SportyPal will show I had ran 6 miles. I can run north to south in a straight line, and when finished, SportyPal will show that I went east and west as much as 400-500 feet off of that straight line and because of that can add anywhere from .1 miles to .5 miles to that 1 mile run.
It is so unreliable that I will use my older decommisioned Droid2 to run with. It works perfectly with the same software.
If anybody has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

bishop0114 said:
I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?
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Sadly, I have the same issues.

Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?

bishop0114 said:
Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?
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God, I hope not. I have enough problems with this phone as it is.

No problems with GPS for me
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kshen1 said:
No problems with GPS for me
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Are you using it for navigation only? Or a similar application for running/walking?
The reason I ask is because I do not notice a problem during navigation. It works great for that without any problems. Until I get to downtown Chicago. I almost expect problems there. Even with my Droid2.

i've only had issues with my gps in areas with lte. when im at college im in a city with lte support and my gps doesn't work (my friend who has an X also has issues with his gps when in areas with lte). when im home where there isnt lte support my gps works fine.

No it's not hardware mine works flawlessly and almost instantly fixes position, tho i have modded the gps.conf found in the etc folder. Details for tweaking this for your region can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13537801&postcount=1
Many thanx to 75markus for this.
Since we don't have a recovery yet to flash a zip you will need to edit the gps.conf file manually.
Oceanic region can be found in my sig below apart of my camera mod.
-smc

The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
-SR-

I'm not having any GPS issues on my phone. Perhaps it's based on the area your in?
I know it's satellite but.. just a guess.

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The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
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I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.

a_lazy_dude said:
I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.
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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.

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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.
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Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.

a_lazy_dude said:
Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.
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I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.

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I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.
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WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.

I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...

bishop0114 said:
WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.
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With that kind of change in accuracy, it seems like it isn't using the GPS as all, but just the cell towers. Is the GPS logo showing in the notification bar when that is happening? If it's there, is it blinking or solid?
-SR-

bishop0114 said:
I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...
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My humble opinion of VZW representatives...they're all full of BS. They're going to tell you what they need to tell you to get your out of the store or off of the phone if you're not buying anything. A representative's main concern is sales. Sell him another phone, renew his contract, add a line, add a feature.
This issue may be better addressed to Motorola directly. I may make that phone call today.

I just got off the phone with Motorola tech support. Same story as VZW gives. There are NO known issues with the Droid 3. I asked about the GPS, the bluish pics the cam takes and battery life. The only thing the tech would say is the phone "needs to be evaluated"

Common Issues with Z3C

Please mention all the common issues found in this device (both Hardware and Software level)
So far I have gathered one issue mainly
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.

Some units may have excessive gap between the glass and the frame, either top or bottom.

in_core said:
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.
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Because of this mine is on the way back to Vodafone [emoji22]

Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.

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Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.
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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?

Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.

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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?
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No second day, first day I probably didnt notice. Nor do I now to be honest... was hesitating about sending it back but ehh... its so much hassle and like I said I can hardly tell its dead.

I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too

Did you experience any problems or did you just bottle it? I've had mine for a week or so with no problems at all.

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I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too
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I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.

Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....

qbert456 said:
Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....
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I suggest you just get a silicone cover or something, to protect it. A wrist lanyard also helps a lot. And to increase your chance of getting a Z3C from a more recent production batch, you can keep an eye on a web shop and order a Z3C after the stock runs out and is restocked.

Camera Button
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.

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Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Mine too, also there seems to be a 2-step press for it, as on a regular camera (half hold down to focus). Half pressing doesn't start it.
Have had to mess with settings to turn off the quick launch which was set to launch and capture as I have so many pics of either a finger or blackness!
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Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.
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On mine the sound is pretty loud through the mic, so much so that I thought the loudspeaker was on! Conversely though the actual loudspeaker doesn't seem that loud! Go figure!
For the battery I think you would only get 2 days with the Stamina settings active. I manage to get down to about 25% on a full day of regular usage (in office etc). The Stamina / Ultra stamina modes seem to just disable pretty much everything on the phone. OK if you need to keep it powered on but no good for regular usage. I've ended up turning stamina mode on and then re-enabling Wifi, seems to improve life quite a bit for the times I have been hammering it!

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I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.
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Always been the case since the Treo days, lol. People will look and see all these problems, but they are random people, that really only for the most part show up here to resolve "issues". While it is a great thing for folks looking for corrections, it does appear bad on the surface if you don't really understand the dynamic at play on boards like these.
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Poojo said:
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Yes. Your button is behaving normally.

I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.

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I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.
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I've only had that once, last Fri however it is a bit weird, here's how mine manifested itself:
- Work most of the day in an office, good wifi connection. Don't use the phone much but see that it is working OK, getting emails, fb updates etc. Can browse the internet via Chrome
- Left the office and try to do a search. Using Google search from the home screen the results showed up very quickly but then when I tried to open any of those links in chrome it would just say no network or something similar. Tried shutting down chrome, clearing cache and data but made no difference.
The weird thing here is that the 4g / mobile data connection WAS working, but the issue was with Chrome.
I'm still stock, not likely to change that but since Chrome is now an intrinsic part of the Xperia build how do you uninstall / reinstall? Or do I end up installing another browser?

Chrome has done this to me on Z3 Compact and a few times on my previous Xperia ZR. Just close the browser from the multi-app right button by flicking it to the side, then try again. If it gets too tedious, install another browser.

Hi, any one have the same issue as me?
My Z3C black out after 2nd week of use then could not power on. Brought to service center and the person claim that it is software issue.. Took back the phone after they reformatted, then after 12hrs use, same problem again.. Then they change 1-1 for me.. but after another week of use, same issue on the 2nd phone!
who have the same issue as me? what should i do next? i cant be bringing the phone in to service center every week..

hello,
I think it's the same pb for me... "Z3 Compact" bought the 28.09.2014. The phone is turned off itself in the middle of the day in my pocket. The battery level was approx. 75% => Black screen, not even light on the charger...:S The Sony support told me to send them with charger and usb cable. I am waiting for news... approx. 10 days...