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Hi Guys!
I've search the forums to find the best solution there is for Push Email, but I haven't been able to find much. I do not have an exchange server myself, so I'm looking for a service or something of that sort.
I signed up for MobiPush, and it works great, but the only issue I have is that my ActiveSync always stays on, and keeps my GPRS connection active 24/7. Is that how it should be? Isn't that a battery drain, is there a better way to do it?
Thanks! and apologies if someone has asked this before!
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Free service! Very good and stable.
If you want a connection in MS Outlook you have to pay but its worth the money in my opion.
Succes!
Thanks I'll check it out.
When you check via ActiveSync, does your GPRS connection always stay active?
No. But is is a opion in KaiserTweak to keep connection alive. Is a hit for your battery!
Yeah..I don't want it to stay alive..i think its pointless for it to stay alive all the time!
My KaiserTweak is set at 1 Min for disconnection, but it doesnt really disconnect the connection!
jatin.ahuja said:
Yeah..I don't want it to stay alive..i think its pointless for it to stay alive all the time!
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If you find it pointless to stay alive all the time, why you wanna have pushmail then?
well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
jatin.ahuja said:
well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
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There is a way - an SMS can be sent to tell you that there is a new message.
I use push email (www.exchangemymail.com - not the cheapest, but it does have postini filtering...) and find that battery life is OK, but I typically charge mine in my car an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening, that's all I need and I have 3G on all day.
jatin.ahuja said:
well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
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Microsoft offers push email through their Live Services. I have a @live.com account and get push email,but again,it seems activesync is always connected and Kaiser tweaks will not help. And the battery takes a big hit. Also, you better have an unlimited data plan or your wallet will take a big hit too.
Read this article (about half way down)[1] It explains how the mobile Phone sync with the exchange server. In essence a http connection is kept open at all times. It used to be (in 5.0/exchange 2003 times) that the connection with the mobile was an SMS sent from the server. That means that every email cost you 1 SMS. Depending on your plan that can be very expensive)
It goes through this cycle:
1.) mobile http request to exchange server with timeout info
2.) exchange server checks for new mail
----> no new mail: server waits until timeout then send an empty reply. The mobile then starts anew at 1.)
----> mail arrives before timeout: server sends the the reply immediately with information which folders to sync. After syncing the whole process starts at 1.) again
Short answer: Yes your GRPS connection will have to be always on BUT if there is no mail there is only a minimal amount of data used. Also using a 6.1 rom helps a lot with battery life (at least in my experience).
[1] http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4638
waht about mobipush!? ist free an it works!
I use SEVEN mail. It's the actual product behind cingular's ExpressMail, but you can get a newer version by joining the beta (neverending, it seems) for Seven at http://preview.seven.com
I too use the Seven product. It ROCKS!!!
Seven makes my phone sluggish
gai-jin said:
I use SEVEN mail. It's the actual product behind cingular's ExpressMail, but you can get a newer version by joining the beta (neverending, it seems) for Seven at http://preview.seven.com
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Thank you all for the response! and sorry for the delay!
I installed Seven and I feel its a lot better than MobiPush, but I feel like when I click the Messages tab on my phone (from HTC Home), it takes forever to open it up!
Do you guys feel that too?
For some a better puch mail soultion
If you have gmail or any other email account that allows you to set it to automatically forward email. And if you have unlimited text messaging on your phone plan then the solution I use might be useful for those who want a push email function.
There is a small program called QoreFunctions Pusheffect. Its for WM devices and this is part of the solution. You can find this online to purchase
In general here is how it works. Your cell service provider offers you a email address that takes emails in but delivers them as text messages on your phone.
1. In your normal email provider set it to forward every email you get to the email address that your phone provider delivers emails as text messages.
2. Install and configure Push effect according to the instructions they offer and your done.
Here's what happens. Email hits your regular email account. That forwards email to your cell phone text message account. A text message arrives on your phone. Push effect reads the text message and can tell it came because there is email waiting in your regular email account. It then triggers your mobile email to connect and pick up your email from your regular account.
This all happens in just a few seconds after the mail hits your regular email account.
The benefits are it works with Lot's of email services and does not require exchange in any way. It also is not polling your email account so no extra drain on your battery
I love it and it works great!!!
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jatin.ahuja said:
but I feel like when I click the Messages tab on my phone (from HTC Home), it takes forever to open it up!
Do you guys feel that too?
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That has nothing to do with push mail. That's just a bug or something in HTC Home. Try clicking the Messaging icon in Programs or mapping a hardware button to it. You will see how fast the messaging application comes up. But for some reason when you try and invoke messaging from that icon in HTC Home it takes several seconds. I don't know why.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440
the same sms technique was developed by a fellow xda developer and offered for free! try it, it works great. best to have unlimted text and data though if you go this route. also means you dont need to have your data connection on all the time, save battery!
set up kaiser tweaks so your data connection disconnect after every xx minutes. set your email to forward new mail to your SMS address. when you get the notification of new mail on your device, it launches poutlook and checks your mail. then after xx minutes your connection turns off. works great! connection only when new mail comes in.
in the program there is a simple config you have to set up so the program knows which sms notification to trigger poutlook so it doesnt open outlook on all sms notifications you have. usually notifications that are for new mail have specific text in the subject and body and you can use that to distinguish emailed forwarded sms from regular sms you get from friends.
cehck the thread i posted for screen shots of the program, its easier then my discriptions makes it look! haha: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440
the only other way to use it without sms is to have your connect on at all times. there's a trade off and depends which route you want to go.
Seven notification alerts!
Hi Everyone!
Thanks for all your help! So I've started using Seven, and everytime I get an email, I have a little red icon on my taskbar (on top) and my phone vibrates. Is there a way to turn these notifications off?
Thanks!
Jatin
Ok this may be a dumb question, and quite possibly Im missing something simple.
I have my email set to download the full message I'm on an unlimited data plan and mainly use the data plan for my email. so i'm not worried about data usage.
however my onto my question, when you open an email, a yellow bar at the top of the screen says "Internet Pictures Blocked"
I know its simple, and all you need to do is click the yellow bar, you read the message that says "To protect your privacy, pictures from the Internet are not automatically downloaded"
Bellow the message you click "download Internet pictures"
Easy, Simple, Almost hassle free, I know all that.
But not quiet Hassle free. and it had slowly became the thing that bugs me most about opening my mail.
Again I know Im probably missing something that is so simple most people don't even need to ask how to do it. But is there a way to make it download the full email including the images.
Iv'e had the x1 since it came out here in Britain, and maybe I should have asked earlier rather than, let it bug me every day. But I haven't because it felt like it was a setting i have not configured correctly. and i was just being stupid wasting peoples time with such a simple question.
But I put my hands in the air, I cant find it , I don't know how to do it. I give up. Can someone tell me what I'm not doing correct, and put me out of my misery lol
Thanks in advance for any help
one_mad_punk
That's a standard feature on most email clients these days.
It's there so that spammers can't hide your email address in an image request - basically the images generated by a script that confirms that your email address is valid.
When your email address is confirmed as valid its more valuable to sell on to spammers as a 'confirmed active' address.
You should only ever allow images to be downloaded from email that you are expectingand where you know the sender - therefore in any email the images will be blocked initially.
Full blown email clients may have a 'white list' for senders addresses that you will automatically allow images from, but not Pocket Outlook unfortunately.
Hope this helps,
FM
Is there a way to bypass that?
My x1 reads the email from 1 folder in my email account. spam, junk and items i don't require to check when out and about, are in other folders of the account and i check those when i get home.
Its just the emails that make it to this approved folder i check on the phone. and it would be good for the full email an images to be downloaded.
However i presume from what you are saying, that even tho i have taken precautions to filter and separate non important emails, that it is still in my best interest and for my own protection that the x1 does not download the images with the rest of the email. and that there is no actual way to change this setting
Thanks for your quick reply
one_mad_punk
I would like to download the images automatically, too.
No one with an idea how to fix that?
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
Uuuuuhhhhhhh o.k.
stop CC'ing yourself, just check your sent box... too simple or not complex enough a solution?
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I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
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Did you read the problem or not understand it? The problem is when I reply to emails, the Tilt will download it as a new message. Where did I state that I CC myself all the time? What does checking my sent messages have anything to do with what the Tilt is downloading?
little snippy...
Pretty sure you not only said it, but now you've highlighted the fact that you sometimes CC yourself on emails sent, so yes, you would receive a copy. You would check your sent box to view messages that you have sent rather than CC'ing yourself. Mighty snippy for someone asking for help. Are you using a threaded version of Gmail? that's the only reason I could think you would receive a copy of the conversation, aside from CC'ing yourself.
If you read it, it says SOMETIMES. My problem is EVERY email reply gets downloaded. The CCs aren't a problem and not something I am complaining about. I am complaining about all replies done by me being downloaded as a new email. My response to you would have been different if you actually replied like you read it what the problem was.
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Trying again, are you using a threaded style of Gmail or the true Gmail website?
Not really sure. I rarely ever use the gmail website unless I am at a different computer. Most of my email comes to my phone and PC, which I remote into during work and just use Outlook to respond if I can. I'll try to explain the problem better. I apologize, just having a hectic day at work.
When someone emails me, the Tilt will download the email.
I will reply back using the tilt, or Outlook on my PC, and every once in a while, the gmail web interface. NOT CCing myself.
Tilt then downloads again, my reply and puts it in my inbox.
The only time I CC myself, is when I send out a new email that I feel is important. I do this because I like to have a copy for myself, and I empty my sent box on a weekly basis.
Also, I just did a web search on this threaded gmail thing you were talking about. It appears that is a 'feature' in gmail and it can't be disabled. It puts my replys in a 'conversation' style so it thinks that my replies are new messages and just downloads them. I guess I just have to deal with it.
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Does ONLY the tilt capture all replies or do they also show up on your box at home and is this independant of from where you reply (home box or tilt)? Gmail uses a conversation view that shows reply messages as a long conversation would appear in MMS/SMS. I can't imagine that this would cause the problem but may be another piece to this puzzle.
Don't worry about my comments, I'm a smart-ass. Pretty much everyone is here to help and there are many more smart-assier (and just plain smarter) than me. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the website.
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I use Gmail and reply from my tilt as well, but have not had a problem. But i don't use a web app, I have gmail as a separate account that I access just like standard push-mail. What way do you use gmail?
Same problem
When I used my tilt I was having the same problem. I would send an email from my tilt (from a push account I had set up on the phone) and would receive a copy of the sent mail as a new message. I had that phone for 2 years and used various roms and could never stop it from doing so. It was very annoying to say the least. Some light on this matter would be awesome.
If I can, I just use email from the phone, or outlook on my PC if there is a large attachment. It only does it on the Tilt. My outlook on the PC is only showing up the emails from other people, and not myself. I can see on the web interface my replies though if I log on.
I have it set up on the Tilt as an account as well, so I am not using the gmail interface thru the phone. Not sure how I have it setup or if it is a seperate email software. I just click on messages and added the email account. It doesn't matter where I reply from. I also have a Yahoo account set up and it doesn't do this.
Also, the phone info:
Duttys WM6.1 build 19700
radio 1.65.14.06
I had this problem once and I was because I forget to change the "[email protected]" that I used during the initial setup back to my actual e-mail address.
I just fixed the issue. I deleted the account from the phone and recreated a new one and set it up as IMAP. I think the issue at first was because I had it set up and let the phone download the settings for me and it configured it as POP. This time, I set up everything manually and tested it out and it appears to be fine now.
Hello, I really need some help with some email problems here with my nexus 1 (att 3g vers).
It has NOT been rooted, and has android 2.2 installed (prefer to not root btw).
Anyway, the problem is in regard to the android EMAIL app (don't know it's name, but it's the icon of the envelope and yellow @ symbol in it).
I've set it up to handle my other email accounts (comcast and godaddy accounts) - not Gmail. Everything is setup finally and working fine...but for one problem...
once an email arrives, i get the notification...go to read it, BUT - then after reading it...it's then moved to the trash automatically (the trash in the email app that is, it's not removed from the server.
Driving me nuts - it's no longer in the inbox area of the email app, for each and every account). Each email just automatically disappears (goes to the trash) upon my reading it one time.
I can go to the trash folder and read, but this is ridiculous...shouldn't I be the one moving emails to the trash?
Can anyone suggest a fix here, or know of anything I can do to stop this?
I see no settings to change this...it's a serious bug.
Or...is there a better email app (one like this, as I do like the look and feel of this one built into android 2.2) that I should be using?
I downloaded K-9 email (but really hate it's look, feel and operation compared to this one).
Maybe there is something I'm not getting here though and need to change?
It's very strange that ea email would move to the trash upon 1st reading it.
thanks for any help here
also, i have tried searching this site for this problem with zero luck...
but i can't be the only one seeing this issue, right?
again: these accounts are my comcast and godaddy email accounts (not gmail, hotmail, etc).
thanks again
sorry man, I tried looking at my settings to see if theres anything I can suggest. Nada...
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Ok, doyeee
I think I know what's going on....
I was just setting comcast and godaddy accounts up and had the the email apps open on my PC at the same time while running tests.
When I did email tests, and having the PC email apps open for the same accounts...after they download to the PC is when they will go to the trash on the nexus email (not staying in INBOX on nexus when the PC email app has downloaded them).
This might be standard (I don't know as this is finally the first phone able to handle emails like this.
Hmm, i'd sure prefer it if all emails could remain in the inbox (or some other folder other than trash) as I can't hit "reply" once they're in the trash should I later want to reply to the same email with more info later on mobile.
Hi, loving my new P20 Pro.
Apart from finding a good screen protector, my only issue is emails.
Using the stock APP and keep getting the same emails coming in, sometimes 3 or 4 times a day.
I'm using Sky Mail on POP3 as I don't want to lose anything that I might want to save to a folder on my PC (it's using Thunderbird in case that matters) and I don't get doublers on there, just mobile.
Any thoughts much appreciated
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Hi, loving my new P20 Pro.
Apart from finding a good screen protector, my only issue is emails.
Using the stock APP and keep getting the same emails coming in, sometimes 3 or 4 times a day.
I'm using Sky Mail on POP3 as I don't want to lose anything that I might want to save to a folder on my PC (it's using Thunderbird in case that matters) and I don't get doublers on there, just mobile.
Any thoughts much appreciated
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Howdy stewarta13wsb,
Depending on where you live, I would recommend looking through amazon. I've been able to find a pretty affordable screen protector. That's first.
Now regarding your repetitive pop ups about new emails. Help me clarify a couple of questions please. You are receiving 3 or 4 notifications on your phone about new email, correct? The main server is receiving just one email and doesn't duplicate anything (I'm assuming this because of your mentioning about that PC only gets one email).
My guess would be the following: either your mobile is setup to pop up a notification about new email multiple times (until you actually check the contents of the email), or the email server keeps on sending email and isn't receiving a confirmation receipt from the phone, thus pushing new email item multiple times until this receipt is finally sent by the phone/received by the server. That would also explain why it's not consistent (happens 3-4 times instead of it being always 2 for example).
Again, this is just a guess. I would recommend looking into the email setup on your phone again. Perhaps deleting any profiles from the phone and setting everything up from scratch again. As IT would always ask: "Did you try rebooting it?"
Thanks for that, 3rd screen protector arrived from Amazon today... looking good (Spigen - same as case!)
No I don't get multiple notifications, I get multiple copies of the same email. Your second description made a lot of sense though - I'm pretty quick at read & delete, sometimes just delete and immediately empty the bin. Maybe it's me - too fast for the receipt message to be sent. I wondered if it kept coming until I deleted it on the PC but I don't know for sure.
Further testing and maybe re-add the account. It's just Sky I think, not my GMail account.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Screen protector issue sorted - Spigen Huawei P20 Pro Screen Protector, Case-Friendly, Tempered Glass - although it doesn't seem to stick right up to the edges? There is a definite gap.
Email wise, still driving me mad. Didn't like Gmail or IMAP, prefer POP3, and didn't find it easy to use - might just have needed more time but back to stock APP, but still get double or more email reciepts after they have been deleted and cleared out the bin. Some of today's must have come in maybe 4 times!!
Any thoughts?
Anybody else on stock APP have this issue?
Another day, another 6 emails arrived possibly for the 4th time... anybody?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3q1ds0c11akinp/Screenshot_2018-06-20-09-25-43[1].png?dl=0
Hope the screengrab worked?
This is driving me mad... I know there's an expert out there, they just need to read my post