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Hey, guys.
I'm rather new here, and I've only recently been sucked into the Android cult. So far, this means in the past few months I've amassed:
An Archos 5 Internet Tablet
A Samsung Captivate
A Motorola Atrix 4G
And I've got a B&N Nook Color on the way.
One thing I've noticed, is that most devices seem to have a "general modding information" type of thread, which is more or less geared towards noobs, giving them enough information to push them in the right direction when getting started with their device. I've noticed that no such thread really exists for the NC. The Captivate forum is very strong in this regard, as I'm sure the Atrix forum will be once it grows wings. So, among the things I'm wondering:
What ROMs are available for the Nook Color?
What are the pros and cons of each?
What capabilities are present and missing in the stock firmware?
What device-specific tools or utilities are available?
Any general caveats with this device?
Thanks for being excellent, guys.
I'd be happy to see something like this as well.
I'm not totally new to android. I stumbled through rooting my old Droid and my old HTC Magic, but I may as well be considered a noob as I've forgetten almost everything (sold those phones a while ago)
From what I've read, it's incredibly simple to try out various distros without making any changes to the device itself, so trials with each one should be a breeze. I guess the most important questions are:
What releases are available?
What release works best overall?
What release has the most active development community?
How does one go about installing to eMMC after booting from SD?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
While I'm still a novice and can't speak to all your questions, I feel like my general caveats are mostly in regard to screen sensitivity. It's not horrible, but I'm sure you've seen the complaints about the corners of the screen especially. I've tried a few fixes and none of them seem to work, but the general functionality of the thing is fantastic. I tried overclocking for the first time yesterday and minus a few weird issues, it's great. I wouldn't say it's totally necessary, but that little speed boost makes it a little more fun to use.
Essentially, it's a great device to tinker with and for learning the ropes in terms of Android stuff, I feel. I'm new to all of it and learning a lot.
junkrobot said:
While I'm still a novice and can't speak to all your questions, I feel like my general caveats are mostly in regard to screen sensitivity. It's not horrible, but I'm sure you've seen the complaints about the corners of the screen especially. I've tried a few fixes and none of them seem to work, but the general functionality of the thing is fantastic. I tried overclocking for the first time yesterday and minus a few weird issues, it's great. I wouldn't say it's totally necessary, but that little speed boost makes it a little more fun to use.
Essentially, it's a great device to tinker with and for learning the ropes in terms of Android stuff, I feel. I'm new to all of it and learning a lot.
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Okay, sounds good. Thanks.
I hadn't heard about the screen corner issue at all, actually. Is that a ROM-specific problem, or could it be hardware-based? I would imagine a problem like that would be based on hardware.. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
I really don't have any intent to overclock the thing. Honestly, I don't really think it'll need it. Battery life is kind of a big deal to me. Besides, I've heard of SetCPU causing weirdness across various platforms, over- or underclocked.
Any thoughts on CM7 nightly builds for the NC?
I think the corner issue is something to do with the hardware as well since every calibration effort I've made has been sort of useless. I'm still tinkering with SetCPU at the moment and I've experienced a few oddities with overclocking such as random restarts, so I may be going back to stock kernel soon.
I haven't tried out the CM7 builds yet, but they are mighty tempting.
Hi there,
as my iPhone 3G is getting old and the WLAN seems to be broken now, I was looking for a replacement. I saw that the price for the Galaxy S I9000 dropped massively here in Germany and therefore started to read through the posts here in the forum for the last 2 days. There is just too much information out there to get things sorted out in my mind that fast...
I really loved the iPhone for all those nice apps because I don't really like to use the browser on a small screen that often. There were 3 major things that I didn't like and hope my new phone can do better:
- Performance: It sometimes took quite long to start apps and also some of them were performing poorely.
- Multitasking: I like to have the 3-4 apps that I use most running simultaneously. That is Phone D), Mail (GMail), Skype and Facebook.
- Battery life: My iPhone had problem to make it through the day if I used it too much.
Is there somebody out there who can tell me if the Samsung can handle those things better? Performance-wise I guess there should be no problem, but I don't know about multitasking and battery life.
One more question: I am really interested in learning more about flashing custom ROM's and doing that with the new device, but there is one thing I don't want to do: I don't want to be forced to look for bugfixes all the time. The phone needs to run STABLE. Is that the case? Are there good ROM's out there that really improve the native firmware from point of view of performance AND stability?
I hope this is the right forum to ask those things. If not I apologize and ask the admin to move it to a better suited forum.
The Galaxy I9000 really looks very promising to me, so please don't be to harsh with your criticism, OK?
Mike
Comparing the SGS to the iphone 3, i would say, that the screen is much better, and if your primary apps, are Gmail, Facebook and skype, you are set. Multitasking is almost not existent in the iphone, and i belive battery life is better, and if that is not enough, you can get an additional battery, wich you can't with the iphone. for me, it's a much better device.
Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
Very recommended and match with you..believe me
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Well... it seems it comes down to the question of stability.
Are there really fast and stable ROM's out there that are more or less free from bugs?
Mike
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I'm running the stock ROM, rooted of course, and is very stable, i never had any problems. I haven't tried custom rooms, but as far as i understand, they are very stable too. I just prefer to keep my phone as stock as possible...
for the beginning i don't think you need any custom roms if you decide on the SGS, the stock ones are a very long way from any iOS you had in the past
just go to any store and play with it for a while, you'll be amazed about the difference from that old i3g, just as i was, the best choice i have ever made, moving on from iphone3 to this amazing Android device, can't wait to get the money for an sgs2
Seems like I will have to give it a shot.
I was just a bit confused, as one of my friends told me about problems with apps an their stablilty compared to the iPhone. He mentioned e.g. Mobile Navigator.
Well, I will try by myself.
Thanks anyway for your comments.
Mike
I didn't want to post this in the development thread because this was more of a question than anything else and I'm a firm believer of keeping things where they belong in the forums. I was looking at Hashcode's CM10.1 ROM for the Bionic and from what I can tell it is fairly stable. My Dad asked me to look into finding something that would give him a more stable experience with better battery life on his bionic. I think that stressing more battery life is the key here. Currently, he is running stock 4.0.4 and says it drives him crazy how frequently he has to recharge his phone. Having had the VZW Galaxy Nexus before, I understand his woes but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going down a bad path by rooting his device at all.
Basically, with the parts from above taken into consideration, what would be the best option in terms of a ROM or kernel for this device?
I highly appreciate everyone's feedback.
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I didn't want to post this in the development thread because this was more of a question than anything else and I'm a firm believer of keeping things where they belong in the forums. I was looking at Hashcode's CM10.1 ROM for the Bionic and from what I can tell it is fairly stable. My Dad asked me to look into finding something that would give him a more stable experience with better battery life on his bionic. I think that stressing more battery life is the key here. Currently, he is running stock 4.0.4 and says it drives him crazy how frequently he has to recharge his phone. Having had the VZW Galaxy Nexus before, I understand his woes but I wanted to make sure I wasn't going down a bad path by rooting his device at all.
Basically, with the parts from above taken into consideration, what would be the best option in terms of a ROM or kernel for this device?
I highly appreciate everyone's feedback.
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In previous versions, Eclipse was extremely good. However, I am not too sure about it now, as I use Blurrymaxx.
I've flashed everything I could DL and Eclipse 1.3 is, hands down, the best daily driver with all things considered. The CM10.1 nightlies are getting better pretty quickly but BT audio still has problems and the graphics are twitchy.
If your pops really wants to enjoy his phone I would highly recommend dropping the ~$40 to get a OEM extended battery/cover. It was a bit bulky/awkward for me at first but it keeps me from having to pack around a charger.
Sent from Hell™
mechanizedmedic said:
I've flashed everything I could DL and Eclipse 1.3 is, hands down, the best daily driver with all things considered. The CM10.1 nightlies are getting better pretty quickly but BT audio still has problems and the graphics are twitchy.
If your pops really wants to enjoy his phone I would highly recommend dropping the ~$40 to get a OEM extended battery/cover. It was a bit bulky/awkward for me at first but it keeps me from having to pack around a charger.
Sent from Hell™
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Thanks for the replies, all. I will look into the ROMs you mentioned. I would tell him to get the OEM extended battery/cover but he is one of those people that likes to have it clipped to his hip all of the time and he has it in an otterbox case which works with the clip. Does Eclipse or BlurryMaxxx get particularly good battery life because that seems to be his number one concern. I wrote a review/coverage of the UNPACKED conference and the Galaxy S4 on my website the other day and he read it so now all he can think about is upgrading to the S4 so maybe that's the route we'll be taking haha
I won't get into the whole "best ROM" debate. I like CM, but saw that it might not be ready for prime time on this phone on VZW? Something about it causing bricks...
Anyway, I do actually like the stock Google experience, but was wondering if there are better kernels to run, that perhaps improve performance and battery life, with the stock ROM?
My bootloader is unlocked, but I have not rooted it yet, just decrypted the file system, that's it.
Any thoughts?
There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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Without opening a can of worms... any recommendations?
What I look for is simplicity, elegance and beauty coupled with the best performance.
I don't like the ROMs that have every option under the sun... I don't care what font or gradient my notification bar is... I don't need PIE controls or a dozen other things that makes the ROM take forever to set up and makes it far too busy...
I like stock, but prettier, smoother and better, if that makes sense.
best anything doesn't exist. every person on XDA has a recommended kernel, and every person will name a different kernel. so there is no right answer for you. what you should do is try out a bunch of different kernels then stay with the one you enjoy. for me, it doesn't matter which kernel, since I like to set up my CPU my way. generally, kernel are mostly similar, except they all set up the CPU in differing ways. find the way that YOU enjoy.
Most kernels can be tweaked to get the same performance. It is what they are set to fresh off of a flash that may be different. However if you want some suggestions, I personally like hellscore (have to get off google+), zen, and recently elementalx.
no, its not me who wants suggestions.. i think you quoted the wrong person :silly:
Indeed I did. Nice catch
Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
battery life is up to you, 100%. battery life is determined by how you set up the device, which apps you install, how you personally use your device, and by the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is not that important for battery. it does not matter which ROM you use, nor kernel, battery life is mostly up to you. ROMs and kernels do not decide your battery life. on any ROM or kernel, there will be someone with great battery life, and even more with so so or bad battery life.
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Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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Well, in that case, I'm currently running Dirty Unicorns. Works pretty solid for my needs.
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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i use terminus. because its built by a good friend, has everything i need, its not bloated, and everything always works as it should. oh, and layers works on it, so you can theme it as you wish.
Hi all,
So just looking for opinions here...I just got my OP3T and am looking to change from the stock OOS to something else. However, I need something that functions more as a daily driver. Sure I could go LineageOS and stick with what I know from my OnePlus One, but I'm looking to try something different.
Sure I OOS Beta isn't different per se, but I like what I've got with OOS stock so far, but I personally like being on a beta...it's fun.
My experience with Paranoid Android was only with my old HP TouchPad, but what I did experience, it was very good.
So I can't decide, so I'm leaving this one up to the votes...have fun!
I've been on the Beta before, and right now I'm using PA. Personally, I prefer PA because it's so well-refined. The only thing is that you can't really use a custom kernel unless it's specifically made for AOSPA; whereas the OOS Beta you can use any stock-compatible kernel. But if you want something stable but customisable and such, I'd go with PA.
Also, OOS has the forced DM_Verity thingo and I always find that painful to fiddle around with.
What kind of amazing topic is this???
Try both buddy.
I would go for AOSPA, simply because stock Android is better than OOS and with PA you don't loose your camera
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What kind of amazing topic is this???
Try both buddy.
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Of course I'd try both...if I had the time between school, work, and traveling for work. I just want opinions from my fellow XDA folks.
Normally, I'd love to tinker with both (and I have in the past with other ROMs), but hence why I'm asking here....extreme lack of time.
Everyone is busy. And yet most of us don't need to make new threads or polls to decide what ROM to flash.
The best ROM for you isn't determined by a popularity contest. It also shouldn't be a decision left to strangers that know nothing about your preferences or how you use the phone.
In the end, how you feel about the ROM when using it, is going to be the sole determining factor about whether you like it, stay on it, etc. In light of that, asking strangers isn't much better than flipping a coin.
There are a ton of resurrection ROMs here, so somewhat feels as if you're limited to either stock or Paranoid Android. From all accounts I've heard, PA has exceptional battery performance. It's a good ROM if you aren't into heavy customizable features ROMs like RR bring. Carbon nightlies are out as well. If you're strapped for time. I wouldn't suggest RR or any other ROM similar. I don't usually use stock ROMs, so I can't clarify for which camera is better. I know PA camera doesn't appear to have the ability to switch between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ration I've found that out from uploading videos to YouTube. PIE settings has been updated from your old days of using PA, but it doesn't have a ton of options allowing you to change anything. It's very barebones in my opinion. I'm not sure if that's how PA wants it or if they plan on adding more to PIE settings. PA also has a theme engine feature different from other ROMs. Once again, I'm not sure if that's correct or not. Considering nowadays I don't heavily modify my phone. Development around here seems to be stalled a bit. I guess most of the devs have got the OP5 now.
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I would go for AOSPA, simply because stock Android is better than OOS and with PA you don't loose your camera
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What is AOSPA exactly, what is it built from? I know what LineageOS is. And what do you mean by not losing camera, can you still use the official one?
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What is AOSPA exactly, what is it built from? I know what LineageOS is. And what do you mean by not losing camera, can you still use the official one?
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AOSPA = Paranoid Android ROM, fully CAF based
with "loosing the camera" I mean the quality. Oneplus never released their drivers for the camera. All photos taken with a custom rom are not as good as with OxygenOS. Paranoid Android Devs created own drivers resulting in excellent picture quality.
redpoint73 said:
Everyone is busy. And yet most of us don't need to make new threads or polls to decide what ROM to flash.
The best ROM for you isn't determined by a popularity contest. It also shouldn't be a decision left to strangers that know nothing about your preferences or how you use the phone.
In the end, how you feel about the ROM when using it, is going to be the sole determining factor about whether you like it, stay on it, etc. In light of that, asking strangers isn't much better than flipping a coin.
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Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Paranoid android definitely for me..I used OOS, and all other ROMs..settled with either paranoid or vertex
PacoL250 said:
Sure no different flipping a coin....if you have a coin that will give you some pros & cons. Hence why I asked. I've got plenty of preferences, what I like, don't like, etc. Didn't think all that is something folks want/need to read or hear...as you said and I said, we're all busy.
HOWEVER, I only ask as I want to hear what folks may have to say in terms of pros and cons here. Sure I can find that on sites all over the place, including here. I simply didn't find anything specific comparing these two ROMS here.
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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lol
Paranoid is a great ROM .. definitely worth trying...PHAEX is also very good and feels very different cause of EAS..
but imao OOS is better battery optimised..
OB 11
Dorimanx V 2.3
PacoL250 said:
So no...not really a popularity contest, my bad on the wording if that came off that way. No need to get a tad salty my friend.
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Nothing "salty" was posted by me. There is nothing insulting to you, or even close. Just stated basic facts. But I do find it frustrating when folks resort to insinuating that they were somehow insulted or slighted, when someone merely points out simple truths they didn't want to hear.
You're still missing the whole point. The "pros and cons" are completely subjective (and not objective) between one user and another. The whole point in having all these ROMs, is so you can find one that works best for you as an individual.
By setting up a "majority rules" type poll, you are also robbing yourself of potentially finding the "hidden gems". I've had instances where the ROM that worked best for me, was not one that was particularly popular. And also instances where the most popular ROMs caused me some problems; not due to any fault of the ROM per se; but more due to the nuances of my particular local cell provider.
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Nothing "salty" was posted by me. There is nothing insulting to you, or even close. Just stated basic facts. But I do find it frustrating when folks resort to insinuating that they were somehow insulted or slighted, when someone merely points out simple truths they didn't want to hear.
You're still missing the whole point. The "pros and cons" are completely subjective (and not objective) between one user and another. The whole point in having all these ROMs, is so you can find one that works best for you as an individual.
By setting up a "majority rules" type poll, you are also robbing yourself of potentially finding the "hidden gems". I've had instances where the ROM that worked best for me, was not one that was particularly popular. And also instances where the most popular ROMs caused me some problems; not due to any fault of the ROM per se; but more due to the nuances of my particular local cell provider.
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Sorry, it just came off that way. I was a tad surprised since you've been pretty helpful elsewhere as I've seen. No harm, no foul. :good:
I'm not completely missing the point since I've narrowed it down to OOS Beta or PA. I've looked at others and these are the two that I've narrowed it down (based on videos, posts others have made here and elsewhere, etc.). I've worked with LineageOS on my OnePlus One, but I need something that's just a bit more stable.
I'm sure when I have the time, I'll take a look at others, but I'd prefer not having to keep switching between ROMs if I can help it.
Perhaps maybe I'll have to...who knows.
I just switch back to open beta from PA. They're both very good ROMs. Honestly, you can't go wrong.
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I just switch back to open beta from PA. They're both very good ROMs. Honestly, you can't go wrong.
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So would u recommend PA or PAEX?
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So would u recommend PA or PAEX?
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Haven't tried PAEX. I've only run stock, beta, and PA on my 3T. Maybe, I'll try it next...
is it only me or pa has some weird lag/choppy video recording ?