Ok so im forced to go back to my old iphone=( Since my g1s digitizer is borken and so is the touch screen. & itunes updated my iphone to 3.1.3 baseband 5.12.01 and the losers at the iphone forums dont know how to unlock it. Xda is more experienced and i trust you guys more. its a 16g iphone 3g. Thanks..
Don´t think this is the best forum to ask for.
Google is your friend: http://www.iphonehacks.com/jailbreak_iphone/
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Don´t think this is the best forum to ask for.
Google is your friend: http://www.iphonehacks.com/jailbreak_iphone/
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But the iphone people dont know anything! thats the problem xda is smart people. Iphone people are mentally chalenged!
Alex530 said:
But the iphone people dont know anything! thats the problem xda is smart people. Iphone people are mentally chalenged!
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The irony in this is that you're using an iPhone.
lets be nice to the guy and help him. Its not like he chose for this to happen.
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Really? I googled "jailbreak iphone 3.1.3," and the 2nd link under a news article was this:
http://www.redmondpie.com/sn0wbreeze-3.1.3-jailbreak-iphone-3g-3gs-3.1.3/
I guess you were right about iPhone users...
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The irony in this is that you're using an iPhone.
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Haha nice one there
I use Blackra1n for my iPhone. Unfortunately it is a game with Apple, the same way it is with HTC they issue new OS updates/phones that can't be jailbroken/rooted, the community "breaks " them.
As of now 3.1.3 cannot be jailbroken, like the Incredible cannot be rooted. But have patience both are coming soon
Big letters all over the Apple/Hack community, Do Not Let Your iTunes Auto Update Your iPhone if You Want To Keep It Jailbroken.
From the dev team blog
Scam season
While Apple’s 3.1.3 firmware was minor in terms of new features, it’s had the side effect of opening up a huge market for scam sites. These sites will promise you a 3.1.3 jailbreak for newer devices like the iPod touch 3G, or a baseband 05.12 software unlock......Don’t fall for these scam sites! None of them have a 05.12 unlock, none have the 05.11 unlock working on 3.1.3, none have a 3.1.3 jailbreak for newer devices like the ipt3G. They’re trying to capitalize on your upgrade mistake, and they only need a very small percentage of people to fall for them to make their money and run..
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hold the phone
I jailbroke an iphone 2g 3.1.3 just last month before I sent it off to my friend as a gift...
I didn't enjoy it granted and reverted back to 3.1.2
if you're on tmobile, stay away from 3.1.3 because no mms or tethering =/
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Big letters all over the Apple/Hack community, Do Not Let Your iTunes Auto Update Your iPhone if You Want To Keep It Jailbroken.
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Agree with Denco7 here...
And this is a general guideline for nearly all electronics. If you see that the company comes out with minor updates, 99% of the time it isn't bug fixes but rather to gap holes in their security (same goes for psp)
I did it a little while ago, i forgot the website name but you download the 3.1.2 firmwire from a 3rd party source and when you restore it in itunes you press somthing like shift + k and you can load up that wirmwire you downloaded. Then you jailbreak it with blackra1n and in cydia you can upgrade back to 3.1.3.
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Really? I googled "jailbreak iphone 3.1.3," and the 2nd link under a news article was this:
http://www.redmondpie.com/sn0wbreeze-3.1.3-jailbreak-iphone-3g-3gs-3.1.3/
I guess you were right about iPhone users...
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Look im not a dumb n00bie like youd expect i searched that all day. All it does is brick my iphone. You spoke too soon. Wheres your iphone?
@Alex530
Spirit Jailbreak for 3.1.3 is out http://spiritjb.com/ but doesn't look like there is a baseband unlock......
Alex530 said:
Ok so im forced to go back to my old iphone=( Since my g1s digitizer is borken and so is the touch screen. & itunes updated my iphone to 3.1.3 baseband 5.12.01 and the losers at the iphone forums dont know how to unlock it. Xda is more experienced and i trust you guys more. its a 16g iphone 3g. Thanks..
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There are teams of people working hard to find a usable exploit in that baseband and you're calling them 'losers'. Nice going...
Don't get pissed because you made a mistake and let iTunes update your device.
And no, Spirit wont help, it's just a universal JB and has nothing to do with a baseband exploit.
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Look im not a dumb n00bie like youd expect i searched that all day. All it does is brick my iphone. You spoke too soon. Wheres your iphone?
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You asked for this forum's help. Obviously, a good number of us do not have/use an iPhone. Instead of completely flaming you, I at least tried. Shove your iPhone where the sun don't shine.
fiktion said:
You asked for this forum's help. Obviously, a good number of us do not have/use an iPhone. Instead of completely flaming you, I at least tried. Shove your iPhone where the sun don't shine.
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Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha...I'm literaly laughing my a** off!!! Poor clown!!
Pertinent recommendation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675282
Alex530 said:
Ok so im forced to go back to my old iphone=( Since my g1s digitizer is borken and so is the touch screen. & itunes updated my iphone to 3.1.3 baseband 5.12.01 and the losers at the iphone forums dont know how to unlock it. Xda is more experienced and i trust you guys more. its a 16g iphone 3g. Thanks..
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Waaaaaait!
A. You're not unlocking it. That's a completely different subject.
B. If you meant jailbreak, doesn't that make you a loser, too, because you can't jailbreak it?
Just saying, bro...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675282
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If I may say so....excellent recomendation Orb
Related
When the new iphone comes out...should i buy it?
Peopl who have owned a iphone and win mo only reply pls
No. (10 characters)
froggylover1345 said:
No. (10 characters)
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Any specific reason?
because it's not an htc product lol, joking well it's your choice.
Re: New iphone
I personally stick with android phones for the open source and for personally just liking a lot of certain things about it. I would never buy an iphone.
Countdown to flame thread beginning in 10...9...
Asking for support buying an iPhone on this forum... you might get a few negative replies.
Dave
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Countdown to flame thread beginning in 10...9...
Asking for support buying an iPhone on this forum... you might get a few negative replies.
Dave
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I dont mind negative replies. i just want people to know their remarks on apple. and i think the thread is goin pretty well for now
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I personally stick with android phones for the open source and for personally just liking a lot of certain things about it. I would never buy an iphone.
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I used an iphone 3gs and windows phone. but i have purchased a G1 to start trying out android phones> lets hope i like it then i may go for good phones
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I dont mind negative replies. i just want people to know their remarks on apple. and i think the thread is goin pretty well for now
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One apple thread got over a 100 replies without going off topic, flaming or trolling. I've no idea how .
I have no interests in devices not supported on here, and have never seen the appeal of iPhone... JM2C.
Dave
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When the new iphone comes out...should i buy it?
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Yes ! The iPhone is specifically made for people who need to ask " what phone should I buy? "
DaveShaw said:
One apple thread got over a 100 replies without going off topic, flaming or trolling. I've no idea how .
I have no interests in devices not supported on here, and have never seen the appeal of iPhone... JM2C.
Dave
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denco7 said:
Yes ! The iPhone is specifically made for people who need to ask " what phone should I buy? "
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Completely agree
orb3000 said:
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Completely agree
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i completely disagree with you
Great!
I love we all think different!
Good luck on your interesting thread
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Yes ! The iPhone is specifically made for people who need to ask " what phone should I buy? "
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There are some peeople who like to try new things
Silly.
Do we even know anything about this new iPhone beyond the info gleamed from that one found in a bar.
Screen res, CPU, software? All we know is what it might look like.
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When the new iphone comes out...should i buy it?
Peopl who have owned a iphone and win mo only reply pls
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I've owned both and stopped using the iphone after a month, got bored of the limitations...even when jailbroken.
IMO if you're looking at the new iPhone then it may be worth seeing what WP7 turns out to be like or even if you can get on with one of the KIN devices but personally I stuck with WinMo because of its 'geeky' features which are seriously lacking on the iPhone and possibly in WP7 too.
to be frank its up to you
I've used iphone and winmo and android and blackberry (I'm a phone whore what can I say)
but I personally found the iphone to be very restricting for a few reasons at the time
1. it was a devil to just forward an sms
2. silent rocker broke, led to a lot of frustration. with windows mobile even if my volume was broken, I could easily tap on top of my screen and maximize my volume
3. Gaming is good on the iphone and zenonia was my favorite game on the iphone. Windows got it and it became my de facto game
I mean its your call. I never enjoyed the iphone save from zenonia, facebook, and the keyboard. But for all its worth, it works. Just, customizing is crap, if you need to get work done, look elsewhere.
Well. I'd personally wait 'till it's out and see what all the competition is and whats coming shortly. I bought an iPhone 3gs on impulse back when I had my xperia working nicely and after a few months of use I switched right back to my xperia and sold it. With all the rumors floating around the iphone HD or whatever name they go for, it looks like a solid device, but wp7 could turn into something great, and androids development seems to be the most active now.
You should buy the new iphone just to throw at Steve Jobs's face and leave the mark of the apple logo on his forehead..
thank you for your honest replies. i guess i'll just wait to be released i may probably just get the nexus or evo when it comes out
Hey guys i just posted an article on my blog that i thought you may want to read, this is not mindless advertising, im a member and spend alot of my time on the xperia x10 forums, and im an android fanboy.
Heres an exert from my latest blog
"Anyone who lives 150,000,000 miles from the sun has heard of the company known as Apple, but as to why anyone would name a Computer company after a fruit is beyond me. Seriously; its like calling your Brothel "Taco-Hutt" or a photocopy company "nine inch nails" and dont you dare start preaching metaphors at me about how apples are seen as a sign of healthyness or purity Steve Jobs is neither healthy or pure, the douchebag visits the hospital more than a double dialysis patient not to mention his response to any crisis is "your (you; the customer, the one whos always right) doing / holding it wrong!"
And do not get me started on Wozniak the guy looks like he ran the HR department at the Darma Initiative.
So yes, Orange computers in known by all, it is also purchased by all, every Tom, Nick, Sarah, Harry, Muhammad, Hiemlic and Talesh seems to own either an iphone or ipod these days and so we end up with what im coining as the "Avatar-Occurence" ~ where something is so popular for no real justifiable reason but because it is now popular it is bought by more people and it becomes self-perpetualating. ~
So the point im trying to make is that a Popular company isnt neccessarily a good company, look at British Petroleum ffs!
From the stand point of a G33K like me there are 3 things Bananna Computers does; that gets on my tits, grinds my gears, ****s me right off, makes me want to cause a scene and an arms race.
My 3 pet peeves about Pear Computers are
1) The sheer arogance of their Marketting
2) absolutely shoddy product design.
3) PR, so ****! that pedophiles who live near Kindergartens could teach apple how to handle people.""
to read the rest hit up
http://moose.frazer.co.nz/
let me know what you think
this is an anti - apple article btw
...ew it's an apple fanboy...
...and he doesn't sound British!!!....
It's an invader!
I sense 2 thread jackers
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I sense 2 thread jackers
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yeah i think so too
I sense your senses are sensing correctly.
Honestly, I didn't even read the OP lmaoo. I thought Apple and thought ew.
its an anti apple article FYI
... You surely don't like apple (or sound british) Yesterday I went to the grocery store, and this lady was waiting in line. I took a quick glance at what she was holding and it turned out to be a new iPhone 4 right. So after I look away (total time was like 4 Miliseconds) she starts looking at me and then everyone around her as if she was looking for some attention about having the new iPhone..... sheesh..... people.........
Purple you should have slapped some sense into the woman, Get it Sense (Htc Sense)
iphone people think they have the best phones ever
THEY DON'T
I like OPs post
very true and funny and even more BRITISH
htc fan89 said:
Purple you should have slapped some sense into the woman, Get it Sense (Htc Sense)
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Well..... my Nexus does'nt have sense.....
PurpleSmurfLlama said:
Well..... my Nexus does'nt have sense.....
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you can download the desire rom on it....
Zac.Santer said:
you can download the desire rom on it....
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It's not rooted and im not planning on rooting for a while.
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It's not rooted and im not planning on rooting for a while.
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when i got mine i rooted straight away
it was fun
If I had one I'd root it right out of the box.
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If I had one I'd root it right out of the box.
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just like I did
You're a smart kid. Now move aside and let the adults talk (lmaoo xD)
Guns don't hurt people. People hurt people.
G1BRICKED said:
You're a smart kid. Now move aside and let the adults talk (lmaoo xD)
Guns don't hurt people. People hurt people.
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oh now i wish i didn't tell you my age
i trusted you people
sniff sniff lol
http://www.businessinsider.com/leak...-of-microsofts-ipad-killer-the-courier-2010-3
And here is a little pre-view. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58fxzRV5HY
It was about time!!
Jay Yarow | Mar. 5, 2010, 11:20 AM
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/leak...-ipad-killer-the-courier-2010-3#ixzz17e4wFCrI
i don't think its going to be launched now.
it says Q3/Q4
bit late
Yeah right, anyway it looks way better than ipad, I can wait for it
its been abandoned long ago ... the review is very late , the same stuff was out since 2009 sept
Uhm, yeah, this has been canceled...
http://gizmodo.com/5527442/microsoft-cancels-innovative-courier-tablet-project
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-cancels-its-courier-tablet-plans-2010-4#
Shame to hear that
Sure MS will come up with something in 2011
The iPad is better neway. Yes, yes, I said it.
Anderdroid said:
The iPad is better neway. Yes, yes, I said it.
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EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish people would stop using the "____ Killer" name. The majority of the time the "killer" gets killed off in about a month. Remember Microsoft's iPod "killer?"
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I wish people would stop using the "____ Killer" name. The majority of the time the "killer" gets killed off in about a month. Remember Microsoft's iPod "killer?"
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yes we have heard about the new iPhone killer everytime a new htc hits the marked but I don't see the iPhone dead yet and there will never be an iPad killer just other options. The only one that can kill iPhone or iPad is Steve
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The iPad is better neway. Yes, yes, I said it.
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Doesn't that depend on what you want from it...?
Not all of us enjoy playing, comparably rubbish games and surfing the internet.
Whats wrong with a mobile phone for that?!
I said I think Ipad is useless when it came out.
I stand by that now.
And I highly doubt I will ever find a use for it, other than looking like a compete douche.
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Doesn't that depend on what you want from it...?
Not all of us enjoy playing, comparably rubbish games and surfing the internet.
Whats wrong with a mobile phone for that?!
I said I think Ipad is useless when it came out.
I stand by that now.
And I highly doubt I will ever find a use for it, other than looking like a compete douche.
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AGREE 100%
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And I highly doubt I will ever find a use for it, other than looking like a compete douche.
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"I don't like it, and because I'm right anyone who likes it is wrong"
Ah, children...
AdrianK said:
"I don't like it, and because I'm right anyone who likes it is wrong"
Ah, children...
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Sitting there and saying "everyone is equal", "everyone's entitled to their opinion", and "to each their own" etc etc is boring and lame.
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The iPad is better neway. Yes, yes, I said it.
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The upad is better than a cancelled pile of crap. Thats not saying much. All fear the ipad and its crappy overpriced hardware
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"I don't like it, and because I'm right anyone who likes it is wrong"
Ah, children...
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Ohhhh yeah! cause thats what I said isn't it....
"And I highly doubt I will ever find a use for it, other than looking like a compete douche."
Note the I in the sentence.
Did I say you would look like a douche? no.
Did I say you may or may not find a use for iPad? nope, didn't mention it.
You want an Ipad, then thats cool. You get one! I dont give a crap what you do with your money!
I'll look past the fact you called me a child, because im better than that.
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Did I say you would look like a douche? no.
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I'll go ahead and say that.
10 years from now Apple will pick it up and sell millions. What a shame.
So I keep hearing that we are going to get bbm on android devices has anulyone else heard this or is it'd just a rumor? Thanks
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Apparently, stripped down versions of bbm will be coming to android and ios.
the article below makes since to me as i would think RIM would like to make some more dough.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/03/exclusive-blackberry-messenger-will-launch-on-android-and-ios/
rpicaso said:
Apparently, stripped down versions of bbm will be coming to android and ios.
the article below makes since to me as i would think RIM would like to make some more dough.
h**p://www.bgr.com/2011/03/03/exclusive-blackberry-messenger-will-launch-on-android-and-ios/
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it would be awesome if people could click on that and have it take them to an actual webpage....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/03/exclusive-blackberry-messenger-will-launch-on-android-and-ios
Use Live Profile. It's like BBM for Android, Crapple and BB.
I have my BB friends on it.
Free download from market.
Sent from my GT-I9000
Elisha said:
Use Live Profile. It's like BBM for Android, Crapple and BB.
I have my BB friends on it.
Free download from market.
Sent from my GT-I9000
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the thread was abt bbm for android...and what u r talking abt here is another app like..whatsapp and kik..
these are just cross platform messanger for ios and blackberry as well as android...
but the original thread started wanted to know if he could actually add someone by from blackberry with their bb pin...thru his android...
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it would be awesome if people could click on that and have it take them to an actual webpage....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/03/exclusive-blackberry-messenger-will-launch-on-android-and-ios
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It would also be awesome if people were smart enough to replace two asterisks with two ts, or just learn to use google..
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It would also be awesome if people were smart enough to replace two asterisks with two ts, or just learn to use google..
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Touche
Sent from my atrix
Doubt RIM will be so generous. More reason to ditch BBM in favour of other brands.
Sent from my GT-I9000
Seriously, I don't get what's the hype about LiveProfile when BBM is around the corner. I mean Kik Messenger has been around for so long, but for some reason it never really went off. LiveProfile has been around for what? 2 weeks at most? It's flying off the app stores like crazy.
I really can't see RIM being generous to let us all have a functional version of BBM.
Half the people using BBs are only sticking to it cause thay can't let go of BBM.
If RIM starts handing it out ot other OSes, there would be no reason for the tech savvy BB users to stick with BB anymore!
Hell I looked past BBM when I ditched my 9700 and it took my wife a little while to get past it but she prefers the nicer apps and games that Android offers.
is there a date release already?
Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.
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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.
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I know, i know. It's crazy talk. Thought has crossed my mind though.
You must be tripping...
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Sent by aged flatus...
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Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol
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Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol
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No he won't. He'll feel all warm, cozy, protected, and fully satisfied under the all-knowing and all-satisfying blanket that is Apple.
Moderators. Please, close this thread.
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Moderators. Please, close this thread.
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Moderators cannot read every single thread. If you want to bring their attention to it, use the report button underneath post 1.
Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much
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Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much
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Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar
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Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar
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Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!
EddyOS said:
Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!
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Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.
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Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.
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Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?
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Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?
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People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway
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People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway
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Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)
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Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)
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Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?
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Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?
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Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...
Never. I hate ios
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Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...
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That is odd. I preferred to get from Play this time round for warranty purposes. I'm not sure its worth the extra though