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Dear all,
Any details about crashes with TCPMP 0.72 or 0.81 ?
I have installed the New rom from HTC on my TyTN II.
Thanks in advance.
A recompiled version of TCPMP works with the new ROM: recompiled TCPMP.
But I do have a bit more lag than before and I don't know how to fix it (vertical lines (some sort of delay), visible when there is movement from left to right or right to left)
Thanks,
It works now !
I have to make some tests.
Regards,
Laurent.
This version of TCPMP works fine for me...
No specific lag, nor vertical problems on scroling.
May be you should have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2253679&posted=1#post2253679
and go directly to the post of dizzy33 dated 27-05-2008, 11:48 PM
You will have to download this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2236890&postcount=73
Some known lags can be eliminated.
I do it myself and now my TyTN II works.
Regards,
Laurent.
I don't see any good solution in that thread.
I tried various suggestions like increase glyphe cache, adjusting the buffer, playing in raw buffering, etc.
Before it all played smooth, now it all plays choppy with the new HTC 6.1 ROM...
I hope I'm missing something obvious, but doubt it.
I have just got a Kaiser/TYTNII , I have jockeys spl3.28 And duttys WM6.1 On it. Quite pleased with being able to do this first go thanks To all the info on these forums....
Question.. I need to play some videos on my phone (work Related Unfortunately) But the playback is shocking the video just freezes while the sound continues. normally the sound associted with the clip is finished before the video is a quarter way through.
Phones I have had years ago are better than this. Any way to fix this. these are just windows media files. Any adivice would be helpful.....
Kaiser/TYTNII
Duttys Toch v6.1 WWE
Radio 1.64.08.21
No offense but, you're kidding right?
Read through this site; everything is explained there:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/
The latest ROMs have some improvements in video playback. The commercial 'Coreplayer' app has some builtin support for some part of the Kaiser video playback hardware (QTv).
If you did already know this, try reconverting the vids to a lower resolution and bitrate. That will help.
The media you're trying to play, what resolution and bitrate has it got?
Good luck!
Sorry If this in the wrong place new to this forum. Resoloution Not sure in propertys it says the bit rate is 668kbps...
Don't worry, this isn't really the wrong place. But since the problem is so very well known, this question could get you some harsh remarks.
What about the resolution of the vid?
Furthermore, which WM6.1 realease from Dutty are you using?
I first had the Apr29 release before switching to the Jun07 release. I play my media using 'Coreplayer'. The Apr29 release was much smoother for playback than the latest Jun07 release. If you're using the latest release, you might have to check his thread for any updates regarding the playback performance. I still have to check it myself...
Properties of the vid does not display resolution only bit rate @ 668kbps...
Hey guys
Title says it all
I was wondering, after all the new drivers that have been released and all the discussions has any1 actually been able to use the Kaiser as a decent video player??
Ive been trying, tweaking Core Player, trying different drivers, different setting when i encode etc etc... But i cant get the video to play smoothly! I still get "tearing" between scenes... Its just not a pleasure to watch
Anyone else had more luck of late??
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357330
So i guess then the short answer is... No??
I see that Core Player has its own codec or whatever it is, meant specially for the Qualcomm CPU, to try and get adequate video performance out of it... But for some reason when i use "video output QTV" i just get a purple block on the screen and audio!!!
Of the remaining options, Directdraw, raw framebuffer and GDI, does any1 know what the pros and cons are? Do any seem to work better than the rest??
Will try the MP4 tip tonight and see if it helps!
I can play YouTube stuff just fine on my Tilt with the newest TCPMP. Haven't tried other stuff yet.
randomguy321 said:
So i guess then the short answer is... No??
I see that Core Player has its own codec or whatever it is, meant specially for the Qualcomm CPU, to try and get adequate video performance out of it... But for some reason when i use "video output QTV" i just get a purple block on the screen and audio!!!
Of the remaining options, Directdraw, raw framebuffer and GDI, does any1 know what the pros and cons are? Do any seem to work better than the rest??
Will try the MP4 tip tonight and see if it helps!
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I use coreplayer version 1.2.2 and QTV display driver delivers up to 70% better performance than TCPMP. Try to find a solution to your problem on coreplayer forum.
Where did you get the 70% number from?
Im not sure if this helps...but
I converted a few movies that I had downloaded a while back thru windows media player...I think Pulp Fiction or something. It played just fine. Great video, great audio, good synchronization. Really impressive. All this on AT&T Tilt.
Keep working on it or flash a ROM since most have the support u need to watch the video. Honestly, u would probably benefit from reading the forums for about flashing a ROM than to mess with new codecs and other drivers.
Have u tried downloading TCPMP and core player. Install both. Then open TCPMP in background. Now open ur windows media player and try to play a video.
Now if u can stream videos from ninjavideo.net ur doing better than I
Cheers
-ac
Found this on the CorePlayer forums....Seems ambiguous at best...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1044
It seems that they have an option to enable "TyTN II driver mode" but they dont actually support the processor in the TyTN II...Odd!!
Apparently version 1.2.5 has a fix for the black screen in QTV mode (on WM 6.1 ROMs) does any1 have 1.2.5 to verify this??
That's right, they've fixed it.
randomguy321 said:
Found this on the CorePlayer forums....Seems ambiguous at best...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1044
It seems that they have an option to enable "TyTN II driver mode" but they dont actually support the processor in the TyTN II...Odd!!
Apparently version 1.2.5 has a fix for the black screen in QTV mode (on WM 6.1 ROMs) does any1 have 1.2.5 to verify this??
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ChumleyEX said:
Where did you get the 70% number from?
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There's a benchmark option in coreplayer. Play an avi file first on QTV driver and then on Rawframe buffer you'll see the difference. Than if you're still not convinced you can play the same file in TCPMP on rawframebuffer and compare the results.
Youtube w/ the new manilla 2d works flawlessly for me, as does any .flv i just plop on the phone (without re-encoding). Streaming mobitv is a bit laggy. But other then that my video runs great. For awhile quicksilverscreen was working str8 off the website too. (seems to not be working atm however).
I installed no new video drivers or anything just manilla2d. .flv has always worked since i installed the tmpg stuff.
Yes I Can!!!!
Just installed Core Player 1.25 and it works PERFECTLY!!!!
QTV works in the new ROMs in V1.25 and it plays my videos perfectly! Benchmarking, my frame rates arent much different to the RAW buffer, but the videos visually play better, there is no tearing as scenes change, they look great....
V1.25 does the trick!!!
randomguy321 said:
Just installed Core Player 1.25 and it works PERFECTLY!!!!
QTV works in the new ROMs in V1.25 and it plays my videos perfectly! Benchmarking, my frame rates arent much different to the RAW buffer, but the videos visually play better, there is no tearing as scenes change, they look great....
V1.25 does the trick!!!
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could you help a noob out, maybe with download links or something...
first of all, what is QTV? is it better than tcpmp? how do I get youtube videos to work? what is v1.25? I am using duttys 6.1 rom, this will work on my phone right?
sorry for all the questions.
brilliantslide said:
could you help a noob out, maybe with download links or something...
first of all, what is QTV? is it better than tcpmp? how do I get youtube videos to work? what is v1.25? I am using duttys 6.1 rom, this will work on my phone right?
sorry for all the questions.
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here is what i think of from the top of my head...qtv is one of the options in the video driver selection in Coreplayer...Coreplayer is the paid version of tcpmp...From my experience, it really smoothens out the transition of scenes in this mode, but it also depends on how the video is encoded I think, coz' the movies I had encoded much earlier which i used with my treo 650 were still choppy even with the qtv display....But my recent acquisition, Ironman, it plays quite flawlessly...
v 1.25 refers to the latest version of Coreplayer, which fixes most of the bugs of earlier version...You can scope it out at corecodec.com, but sadly there is no trial version for it though so if you really want to watch and play videos on your tilt, it might be worth it for you...
As to the youtube videos, you can either:
Buy and use Coreplayer
Download the Youtube player extracted from the opal
Use the recomp version of tcpmp, the orginal won't work on the 6.1 so look for the recomp
Or if you wanna show off a bit on the bus or something, download opera 9.5 and flashlite 3.1, The flash vid will play as a part of the web page....
Dear all,
Has anyone tried the video playback between the either o/s on any rom. Ive installed a couple of roms running WM6.5 but the video playback using coreplayer was awful. Droping frames and losing audio video sync.
Then I changed to one of the 6.1 Roms on the site and experienced the same playback as that of the stock rom (vodafone UK). The unit played divx/xvid clips smoothly not losing sync or droping frames.
The clip was a divx/xvid tv rip standard that you would get on a torrent site like 352 mb for 45 mins or so. I tried a few clips to find the same issue.
Im guesing this is because the HTC video drivers arent part of any 6.5 rom. Is there anyway to include these or workout why there is such a massive difference.
Thanks
thanutz said:
Dear all,
Has anyone tried the video playback between the either o/s on any rom. Ive installed a couple of roms running WM6.5 but the video playback using coreplayer was awful. Droping frames and losing audio video sync.
Then I changed to one of the 6.1 Roms on the site and experienced the same playback as that of the stock rom (vodafone UK). The unit played divx/xvid clips smoothly not losing sync or droping frames.
The clip was a divx/xvid tv rip standard that you would get on a torrent site like 352 mb for 45 mins or so. I tried a few clips to find the same issue.
Im guesing this is because the HTC video drivers arent part of any 6.5 rom. Is there anyway to include these or workout why there is such a massive difference.
Thanks
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hi
in my rom AthineOS 6.1 or 6.5 i take the same score on bechmark in the same video
i use drivers from official 6.5 i do not know if this make the deference
plz try if you want and report..
otherwise vodafone had do magic with the graphic drivers
When you say the official drivers do u mean HTC ones for WM6.5 or one that are included with WM6.5 ones?
What type of video did u use to benchmark?
thanutz said:
When you say the official drivers do u mean HTC ones for WM6.5 or one that are included with WM6.5 ones?
What type of video did u use to benchmark?
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HTC ones for WM6.5
.MPG
640x480
25 frames/sec
with Kaiser take score 85 - 89%
with Rhodium take score 97 - 108%
Ive just installed ure wm6.5 rom and the video playback is just as good as 6.1....
Very very very good rom
keep cooking in 6.5 ure doing a good job. Will be donating once i get paid later in the month!
thanutz said:
Ive just installed ure wm6.5 rom and the video playback is just as good as 6.1....
Very very very good rom
keep cooking in 6.5 ure doing a good job. Will be donating once i get paid later in the month!
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thanks m8 and welcome..
now if you want something about rom post in rom thread
i'm happy because i make you happy
thanutz said:
Dear all,
Has anyone tried the video playback between the either o/s on any rom. Ive installed a couple of roms running WM6.5 but the video playback using coreplayer was awful. Droping frames and losing audio video sync.
Then I changed to one of the 6.1 Roms on the site and experienced the same playback as that of the stock rom (vodafone UK). The unit played divx/xvid clips smoothly not losing sync or droping frames.
The clip was a divx/xvid tv rip standard that you would get on a torrent site like 352 mb for 45 mins or so. I tried a few clips to find the same issue.
Im guesing this is because the HTC video drivers arent part of any 6.5 rom. Is there anyway to include these or workout why there is such a massive difference.
Thanks
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same problems... with official WM 6.1 coreplayer play good,
but with official WM 6.5 and others cooked rom based on WM 6.5 coreplayer performance are very low
Definately noticing a much slower performance on CorePlayer with 6.5 ROM than with the 6.1. Benchmark test dropped from 104% to 72%
Anyone got a fix. Ive just upgraded to the latest coreplayer 1.3.6 and still no improv.
yeah, I confirm that upgrading to a WM6.5 rom did slow down my xvid playback in coreplayer... (under a pro2 from stock Telus ROM 6.1 to MightyROM 6.5)
Also have a look at THIS thread that mention video playback.
Don't know why people don't post a sample video so everybody can test the same movie and post their results... hint hint..
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
Zeyn Karim said:
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
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What ROM do you use?
I am able to play the Bond trailer (.mp4) without problems, with WMP and TCPMP.
Link to TCPMP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634951
im using the pheonix rom build 56502 WWE. is this tcpmp any better than the latest coreplayer? because so far coreplayer played videos better than wmp and tcpmp although it was still laggy maybe it's my drivers but im using the omina driver and get a better benchmark than the rest with sktools 792 to be exact
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
azian_advanced said:
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
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I don't know bout you but using that encoder takes 6 to 7 hours and sometimes it freezes, I don't have the time and patience for that. @ Zeyn Karim I have a collection of video drivers that might maybe improve your performance. Not 100% sure it will but I guess it won't hurt to try.
tried and failed with that converter lol even waited a whole night to encode only to be dissapointed the next morning.
anyway thanks guys for the support and drivers will run couple tests and let ya know the results hopefully this will solve my problem not sure why but my media player doesn't seem to run as good as everyone claims it does, i should remove the omina driver lets hope that's the problem
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed as well. I was watching a lot of videos on my old wm 5.0 smartphone but the Xperia fails. I activated "Raw FrameBuffer" and videos got smoother - still don't think thats what you are looking for...(only tried out fairly low quality movies...)
Zeyn Karim said:
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684106
This version of TCMP I get video playback in GDI mode very smooth I watched Shutter Island on it with no lag.
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
Zeyn Karim said:
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
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I actually didn't encode the video, I don't watch movies that much so I really don't bother with encoding and the one that is stickied takes ages to encode . The video drivers that are installed in my phone are:Chainfire-HD2-3D-Driver-Patch-2.0( not sure if this has any effect in are phones),Chainfire-TG01-D3DM( not sure if this any effect either lol),Driver_Ati d3d, SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D and optxperiabeta02( It makes the sound in the X1 louder but it also said that it changes the video driver to.)
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
Zeyn Karim said:
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
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My Sktool benchmark is: Integer 331, Floating Point 7.71, Draw Bitmaps 656. Also a important fact is it also depends on your rom Stock or none Stock and if it's 6.1 or 6.5 and if your running Sense 2.5 in your rom(which I am), so my stats most likely would be higher in a stock 6.1 rom. I've had my phone for 8 month and been using optxperiabeta02 for 7 month and no speaker damage. And it makes a hell of a noticeable difference lol.
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
Zeyn Karim said:
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
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Hmm draw bitmaps 800 nice. It might because your on 6.1 oppose to my 6.5. Your still having videos problems playing videos in GDI mode in TCMP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
showthread.php?t=684106 havnt got a chance to test yet but will try as soon as i get time did you try kinoma play? im interested to find out hows the playback. damn coreplayer if only they would support our HW id would be so awesome!
Guys there is really a simple answer to this thread: There is only one solution for decent video playback on Xperia X1. Convert your movies to mp4 (h264 avc codec, max. resolution 800 * 480, bitrate 600 kbps) and play them in WMP or Media Xperience Panel (I prefer the latter). You can either use the converter provided by xda (projection) or any other software that supports this codec. There might be some differences in duration of a convertion and it is definitely dependant on your computer's specs (processor) but generally converting videos is a time consuming task and 6 - 7 hours isn't really inappropriate for entire movies (2-3 hours). Everything else won't work. Coreplayer, Pocketplayer, Kinoma etc. do not support hw acceleration and thus 480 * 320 is the maximum resolution that can be played back using those players. If you want high quality movies (what is definitely possible on the Xperia X1) you will have to face convertion to the right format. There aren't any drivers that do miracles and there aren't any insider tips. Only convertion will do the trick.
thank you altae for those bad/good news
Maybe I'm missing something. I've never had any problems playing videos or movies on my X1. Just rewatched Princess Blade on it the other day, in fact.
The truth can sometimes be hard But let's stay serious: It's a pity that WMP or Media Xperience Panel do not support more codecs especially the very widely used xvid/dvix codecs.
But the positive news are: It's definitely possible to play high quality movies as long as they are in the right format. And for all the short videos you would like to show a friend you have always the possibility to play divx/xvid movies in 480 * 320 which isn't that bad for this purpose.