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hi
I just got the diamond, my first htc phone my free internet browsing comes on in a couple of weeks but till then just wanted to have a quick browse, just wondered once ive closed the web page down does that mean its automatically disconnected from the net or do i have to manually turn it off, i dont want to get a huge bill from surfing the net the whole time when i think im not connected
thanks

The icon that displays the signal strength tells you whether you are connected or not. If it has an antenna icon, you are not connected. Any other icon (such as a "H", "E" or "3G") on the signal strength icon (notice how the antenna is above the strength) means you are connected. There are options to automatically disconnect after a while, I use this.

ok thanks for that mine says 3g at the top so how do i remove that to disconnect?
many thanks

ok had a look through the manual and what i think the icon (3g) i have is showing that it is available there are no signal strenths below it and according to the manual this is what shows im connected or two arrows if its connecting does that sound right?
thanks

How to stop internet connection

A silly question by a new user: how is it possible to stop an internet or data connection (no matter if hsdpa, edge, gprs) once started?
Thanks

use 'long key press' in settings, can be set to disconnect a data connection (sdpa, edge, gprs)

Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity

jack1985 said:
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
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faulty url!
take this one:
GB-SOFT GPRS-UMTS_Tweak_WM6.1_Diamond
there you can choose the idle-time for disconnect

Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.

Poker85 said:
Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Cool, also in stead of holding the end call button, wich locks the phone in my case,
Dubbelclicking the end call button alse ends my edge connection.

In order for your end key to stop the connection, you have to go to Settings>System>Long Press End Key>Select Terminate data connection
Then when you press and hold your end key, it will end the connection

if you prefer to stop internetconnection by shortcut, try VJKeyPress.exe 126
this one toggles internet connection

i've searched and i've searched and i cant find the resolve!
after retrieving hotmail, the connection stays active, meaning bars are lit up. for HOURS after unless i long-press-end key or something like that. even when i am surfing the web, after a page is fully loaded, the bars stay lit. on my old diamond, the bars used to go gray or "dormant" etc. therefore no tweaks i have found help (i.e. most operate with this rule "if the connection is dormant/inactive for xx minutes, turn off data" etc. well my connection remains ACTIVE unless i manually intervene)
what is causing this??? i only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite installed. stock ROM.

hello? anyone? NO one is having the same issue or can help with this??? at this point i'd even be happy with a rude comment about how i should learn how to search coupled with a few links to threads which contain the answers! :\

I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection

number16 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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number16, my savior! i'll try to explain as best i can: when the data connection is started/being used, those left-right arrows appear above the signal strength, correct? what i call "active" is when those arrows are lit (presumably when data is actually being transferred). what i call "dormant" is when the arrows are still there but are gray/not lit (i.e. connection is still open, but not currently transferring data). well, up until a 2 wks ago, all seemed fine - the arrows would briefly stay lit when downloading a page, connecting to hotmail, etc, but then would go gray once the transfer was complete. now however, the arrows stay lit. sometimes for hours at a time even tho nothing is running, no data (that i know of) is being transferred, etc.
so what i was saying is that, yes, i know i can long-press-end key to shut it down, but that only works if i notice it otherwise it's just draining my battery. (most times it is in my pocket, and since it checks hotmail periodically, the data connection may open and stay on without me noticing). and yes, i know about advanced config setting (and actually, i DO have it set to turn off after a minute) BUT that only applies if "connection is not active for more than a minute". i.e. since my whole problem is that my data connection technically stays active, that advanced config setting doesnt work.
so my question is, what is keeping the connection active? why is it doing this? i am running stock ROM and only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite loaded. and a few other minor tweaks via advanced config/regedit. i even tried spb wireless monitor to see what was active after a data transfer was complete (as far as i could tell) but it didnt really tell me anything.
does all that make sense?
thanks for any help you can provide...

WIFI? 3G?

I'm in the UK, and using a Touch Diamond.....on Vodafone 3G. When I'm connected to WIFI, I obviously want to use that for data, rather than use up my precious data allowance.
When I'm connected to a WIFI connection, how do I know Opera/IE/Email are using WIFI - and not my 3G connection? There are times when I'm in my house, and I know it's using my phone data connection, as it's just so slow (very limited reception 3G in my house)....whereas the WIFI should be pretty fast.

i COULD be wrong here.... but the way i know is if the WIFI icon at the top shows connected. If you rphone cant find the WIFI, it'll always divert to a data connection. Play with your phone around the house, see where you get connectivity and how strong to your wifi.

luigi_sa said:
i COULD be wrong here.... but the way i know is if the WIFI icon at the top shows connected. If you rphone cant find the WIFI, it'll always divert to a data connection. Play with your phone around the house, see where you get connectivity and how strong to your wifi.
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Yes I know when I'm connected to WIFI and how strong it is....what I want to know is how I know whether my phone is using 3G/GPRS - when I am connected to WIFI and want it to use WIFI and not my phone network. There seems to be no indication to show you are actually 'using' the WIFI network over the phone network....

Settings > Communication Settings.
Turn data connection off, turn wifi on.
Do that before you use internet and your sorted.

On both my Diamond and Touch Pro, the Wi-Fi icon appears on the task bar when Wi-Fi is available. Same goes for 3G.
Also note that some programs call for a certain connection method automatically. For example, you will note that some programs initiate 3G instead of using your Wi-Fi connection. Hopefully, there is a configuration option for such apps.
Cheers.

i don't know if you notice it, but if you are connecting through E or H or G or 3G.. the reception bar instead of the antenna you will get the corresponding letter if you are currently connected to one of them
As long as your WiFi is on and none of those letters are showing up.. you will be fine

problems with TD 2, pls help

hello,
I have just purchased the new TD 2, it is the first phone of this kind that I use (up till now I have only used Nokia Business phones)
Although I considered myself a person that knows his way around how to use a mobile phone, I was surprised to actually be forced to read the manual for the HTC TD2 - unfortunately the information in the manual is general and did not help me at all...
ok so here are the problems I hit:
1. For internet access I have activated "Vodafone Live!" packet with my network (Vodafone) - (internet works fine with no probs)
However, whenever I am near a Wi-Fi zone I would like to use that Wi-Fi signal to connect to the internet and NOT my "Vodafone Live!" setting.
I could find NO way to select how to use Wi-Fi and not the other preset network. (As far as I can see the phone still uses Vodafone Live! and not the Wi-Fi, although I previously manually connected to the Wi-Fi and I tested on my other phone that it is working...)
2. With my other business phone (nokia) whenever I stop using the internet page the phone disconnects (the 2 arrows disappear) but with TD2 I have the impression that even when I exit from Opera or IE the phone still remains connected somehow to the internet - how can I make it disconnect and not use the battery for no reason ?
The only way I found to manually disconnect it is going to START / Settings / Communications / the Push Data Connection button to OFF.
Is there any automatic way to do that whenever I quit the browser?
Thank you in advance for u`r help

ahile said:
hello,
I have just purchased the new TD 2, it is the first phone of this kind that I use (up till now I have only used Nokia Business phones)
Although I considered myself a person that knows his way around how to use a mobile phone, I was surprised to actually be forced to read the manual for the HTC TD2 - unfortunately the information in the manual is general and did not help me at all...
ok so here are the problems I hit:
1. For internet access I have activated "Vodafone Live!" packet with my network (Vodafone) - (internet works fine with no probs)
However, whenever I am near a Wi-Fi zone I would like to use that Wi-Fi signal to connect to the internet and NOT my "Vodafone Live!" setting.
I could find NO way to select how to use Wi-Fi and not the other preset network. (As far as I can see the phone still uses Vodafone Live! and not the Wi-Fi, although I previously manually connected to the Wi-Fi and I tested on my other phone that it is working...)
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The Touch Diamond 2 will use an active WIFI connection over your Vodafone Live! connection. If you are wanting to connect to a Public WIFI zone, then simply select the WIFI connection that you want from you list on the "Connect to Wi-Fi network" screen.
ahile said:
2. With my other business phone (nokia) whenever I stop using the internet page the phone disconnects (the 2 arrows disappear) but with TD2 I have the impression that even when I exit from Opera or IE the phone still remains connected somehow to the internet - how can I make it disconnect and not use the battery for no reason ?
The only way I found to manually disconnect it is going to START / Settings / Communications / the Push Data Connection button to OFF.
Is there any automatic way to do that whenever I quit the browser?
Thank you in advance for u`r help
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If this really bothers you there are applications dotted around here on XDA devs that will automaticaly disconnect your internet connection after a preset amount of time. That said though, just because the TD2 has a connection to the internet, does not mean that it is transmitting any data and does not use up any of your internet allowance and also it will not drain your battery that much.

Thank you very much for the explanations and u`r time!
Regarding the first problem above that is good news, although I don’t like it that I don’t have full control over it.
for example I’m going abroad next week for 10 days and I rly don’t want to use the Vodafone live! option as it will cost as hell
an option where I could be prompted and asked if I want it enabled or not - would have been great...
guess ill just delete it from the connections tab and reinstall it when I get back in my country - seems to be the only safe option.
One more thing,
Whenever I try to access a video-clip over the internet (using the IE not the Opera) the phone automatically directs to the program STREAMING VIDEOS program)
And here the clip ONLY works if I select to connect over “THE INTERNET” – why ??
For example if I go to Streaming Videos / Networks, I can find the following:
Vodafone Live!
Vodafone MMS
Mobile internet
My Work Network
My ISP
Work
Secure Wap Network
The Wap Network
The internet
What the heck are all those ??? I only know of “Vodafone Live!” - and the straming video does not work when I select it … it only works when I select THE internet (like I said above)

Ah, if you are going abroad or just anywhere that you don't want to use Vodafone Live!, there is a little application called "NoData" which allows you to toggle your data connections on/off.
Will edit this post once I find where it is again.
[edit] Here it is:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
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As for streaming videos, I've never used it so can't say.

Graffen said:
Ah, if you are going abroad or just anywhere that you don't want to use Vodafone Live!, there is a little application called "NoData" which allows you to toggle your data connections on/off.
Will edit this post once I find where it is again.
[edit] Here it is:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
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As for streaming videos, I've never used it so can't say.
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Indeed, NoData is a handy tool.
What you can also use is the following one found on XDA-devs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131
It will automatically turn off your data connection when you're not on your standard network.
It isn't perfect, but it works well and the developer is really listening to all suggestions and very active.

you guys are a pice of heaven
thank you again for all u`r help
question, this program NoData, also stops Wi-Fi data transfers or just network ?
thank you

NoData will only stop phone network connections. You will be able to use wifi as normal.

Cellular data being used instead of WIFI - ! shown with wifi icon

Can be connected to wifi, but for some reason the phone thinks the wifi connection is bad/poor, and then it will use cellular data (there will be an ! in the wifi)
This is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY bad for me because I use a LIMITED CELLULAR DATA plan - and this phone decides on its own to not use what is really usable wifi. I have only had the phone 2 days and it is doing it repeatedly - did it at a hotel (which required username/password) but then every single time I leave the hotel and return, it connects to the wifi, but uses cellular data. If I turn off cellular data [I use Power Toggles app to make it easy], the wifi suddenly becomes acceptable to lollipop and the exclamation mark disappears from the wifi icon and I have internet access (no sign in required as the network remembers my mac id/authorized me for at least 24 hours) - and then I can toggle cellular data back on and it will stay on wifi - UNTIL I leave and return again when it starts all over again.
Similarly, at my home where I have strong wifi - sometimes it just decides not to use it. So, when I look at my phone and see the wifi with ! I have to do the same thing - disable cell data to get it to use the wifi.
This is ridiculous!
This switchover to cell data should at minimum be a user-configurable option. I do not want it doing this!

relaxable said:
Can be connected to wifi, but for some reason the phone thinks the wifi connection is bad/poor, and then it will use cellular data (there will be an ! in the wifi)
This is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY bad for me because I use a LIMITED CELLULAR DATA plan - and this phone decides on its own to not use what is really usable wifi. I have only had the phone 2 days and it is doing it repeatedly - did it at a hotel (which required username/password) but then every single time I leave the hotel and return, it connects to the wifi, but uses cellular data. If I turn off cellular data [I use Power Toggles app to make it easy], the wifi suddenly becomes acceptable to lollipop and the exclamation mark disappears from the wifi icon and I have internet access (no sign in required as the network remembers my mac id/authorized me for at least 24 hours) - and then I can toggle cellular data back on and it will stay on wifi - UNTIL I leave and return again when it starts all over again.
Similarly, at my home where I have strong wifi - sometimes it just decides not to use it. So, when I look at my phone and see the wifi with ! I have to do the same thing - disable cell data to get it to use the wifi.
This is ridiculous!
This switchover to cell data should at minimum be a user-configurable option. I do not want it doing this!
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go into the main phone settings, wifi, three dots at the top right, advanced, now disable scanning always available

simms22 said:
go into the main phone settings, wifi, three dots at the top right, advanced, now disable scanning always available
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Already was disabled. (That was the option I chose when I set the phone up).