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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why our browsers have to reload the page even though you are just going "back" one page. For example, if I visit Gizmodo, then go to engadget, then back to Gizmodo, my browser has to reload the page instead of using the cache. It seems as if the cache is barely used (granted the reload is a little quicker, but not much).
Is there a tweak or program that can make this better? It is really frustrating, especially if you are trying to browse a page and accidentally hit the wrong link, which requires you to fumble for stop and oft times requires a reload (this is one reason I miss the Hero browser, because it had a stop button in the address bar).
Hmm, I've noticed this as well. Perhaps Android thinks you need to refresh the page? I know with apps like Opera Mini, pages back (somewhere around 10) are completely stored which is a very nice feature, but as to why Android doesn't do this, is a mystery .
I know the larger files, like images and chunks of text, are saved to the cache, but not whole pages. That would get pretty big after a while, and would slow down the browser because of access times. It's the time the Browser takes to draw the page is what's creating the lag. Look at Opera Mini again, the page loads instantly because it's zoomed out first, then you zoom in.
try "steel" browser.
@ phuthanvinh: I have tried "Steel", but it really isn't any better.
@lukekirstein, yeah, that is one nice thing about Opera. It loads cached pages almost instantly in most instances. When I need quick information, I always turn to Opera. If I want to browse for pleasure, then I use the Android browser.
It would be awesome if a Developer could implement some type of Webkit add-on that forces cache of the whole page.
I just wonder if the "lag" is not caused by redownloading, but rather stems from Android using software-based graphics decoding instead of using the onboard graphics chip. At least that is what I have heard.
I have the same issue and it's very annoying when I'm using google reader!
Have you find a solution?
Does anyone have a solution to prevent android browser to reload pages already load in a tab after I come back from another tab?
I didn't see this mentioned anyway, but i found it.
Does anyone use an alternative browser? and if so which one. Personally I am really liking Coco browser. Seems nice, and based of webkit, so it is really similar.
The tab features is much better then default as well. looks more like safari/firefox, etc.
Does it refresh all the time? I have tried a few and the stock one is the best so far. The only problem I have with it is the stupid refreshing every couple minutes. 3g is useless if the stupid browser is always refreshing haha.
Anyone try the new opera mobile 11. it now supports flash.
If so does it work on stock rooted?
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Stock rom doesn't support flash so no. It will now show you the preview image, and if you click through to youtube and press play there it'll play the video in your youtube app.
It also recognizes it's on a tablet, and shows a different interface than the one for the phone.
Personally I love the new opera, I'm using it as my daily web browser. That's saying alot considering how good dolphin HD is.
I've tried Opera Mobile 11, Firefox 4 RC, and various reskinnings of the default browser (Miren, Dolphin, and stock). Opera Mobile 11 seems by far the smoothest, apparently due to hardware acceleration. Scrolling/panning, pinch zooming, etc., are smooth as silk, similar to what you'd see on an iPad. None of the WebKit-based browsers are that smooth, presumably because they don't yet feature hardware acceleration (at least on the NC?). Firefox 4 RC looks okay but doesn't yet have Flash. I think I may make Opera may daily driver for a bit and see how it does with the various sites I visit.
UPDATE: After playing with Opera 11 for a while, I'll go so far as to say that everyone should try the New York Times Web site with Opera 11 in landscape orientation. That, to me, is what tablet browsing is all about! VERY impressive!
Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.
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Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.
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Even I didn't find opera mobile in market....So i went to opera website thru nook browser (I am using cm7 sd card bootable), went to download page, selected android devices. Here you get option to download opera mini or mobile....
Download mobile and enjoy
I am loving it......
Opera = no Javascript = pass!
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Opera = no Javascript = pass!
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Where did you hear that? Opera Mobile has a very good JavaScript engine.
I've been testing Opera and a few things bug me:
A) Panning up and down the page doesn't "lock" the motion to that axis so that it only moves up/down like every other Android browser does. So the page moves around on BOTH axes (up/down/left/right) and even looks weird as it jitters (or "vibrates") left/right when you only mean to move up/down. In every other browser, when you start panning in one motion, it locks the movement to that axis, which makes for a smoother motion (and rarely do you need to move on both axes, which is why this is implemented).
B) Long pressing on a link doesn't show the URL. Sometimes I'm reading an article and want to see what a link goes to without opening a page. In Opera Mobile, there's no way to do that.
C) I find tab switching to be slower and more tedious than in Dolphin, where the only action needed is a single tap on a tab. Whereas in Opera, you need to tap the (frustratingly small) tabs button, tap the tab you want, and then tap out of it to get rid of the pop-out.
That being said, the re-flow option is much better in Opera than Dolphin. It re-flows the text immediately after zooming, every time. Very helpful.
opera:config, uncheck "Scoll is Pan" in User Prefs, helps a little bit with the vertical scroll lock problem.
The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?
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The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?
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I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.
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I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.
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Just tried that and it works perfectly! Thanks!
Thanks for the tip. This is the best browser yet for the Nook in my view. Quick, accurate (pinching, dragging) and no fuss. I'm running it on a CM7 SD card build and it's fast. Flash works. A question, however: I know Flash works because I use Flash for our site and checked it there. However, going to HBO.com (wanted to grab some Flash video to see what happened) it tells me that my device is not Flash enabled -- so won't let me connect with Flash. ????????????????????
Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.
OMG, I just installed this a few moments ago... can't believe how fast this thing is! It's as fast as the iPad browser on a rooted. stock Nook. running stock clock speed. Gentlemen, I have found my new browser. End of story.
I don't find it to be as tablet-friendly as the stock HC browser, but it does seem to be very good in terms of performance
Most importantly I can now watch youtube videos on my nook even with HC. Wowza thanks for the tip!
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Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.
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Funny, i am the opposite. For me, this is the first browser in CM7 that lets me view pages like Engadget with good fluidity....
It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity
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It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity
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Same here, I thought I was the only one that noticed. Switched to Opera Mini 10, then back to Dolphin Mini 2 because page rendering more livable, now back to Opera Mobile 11 because of speed, although I still hate how vertical scrolling a pain on long pages.
Hi,
I have been using the default browser, and also Chrome on my Xoom. Initially, they both seemed pretty fast, but after several days of using them, they both get pretty slow. I usually have multiple tabs open (3 or 4), and loading up a typical page takes quite a bit of time. For example, loading engadget takes about 25secs. Clearing the browser cache, and history helps a little bit - down to about 20secs.
Comapre that to my ipad, which loads up much faster.
But, either way scrolling up on down just a little fast brings white screen - while it takes time to refresh the content on the page.
What kind of performance are you seeing?
I am on a 12Mbps connection, so that shouldn't be an issue.
ive noticed this too. clearing the cache seems to help
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Hi,
I have been using the default browser, and also Chrome on my Xoom. Initially, they both seemed pretty fast, but after several days of using them, they both get pretty slow. I usually have multiple tabs open (3 or 4), and loading up a typical page takes quite a bit of time. For example, loading engadget takes about 25secs. Clearing the browser cache, and history helps a little bit - down to about 20secs.
Comapre that to my ipad, which loads up much faster.
But, either way scrolling up on down just a little fast brings white screen - while it takes time to refresh the content on the page.
What kind of performance are you seeing?
I am on a 12Mbps connection, so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Experiment with different browsers. I used dolphin hd for a long time, but it got a bit laggy after updates a couple months ago (haven't tried it in a while, might be better). Boat browser is currently my primary... just tried endgadget, and while it certainly isn't scientific, my results were less than 10 seconds in 3 tries, the fastest being 5-6. I also use maxthon and firefox periodically, and keep at least 1 "lite" browser loaded (boat mini at the moment) for use when in a low bandwidth cellular area.
im using chrome as default and have no issues whatsoever - pages load 5-6 seconds on wifi speeds upto 12mbs - only issue with chrome for me is no flash support yet
From what I understand there will not be any flash supports for chrome beta on android.
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Thanks for the responses guys, will try the other browsers mentioned.
It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.
I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I don't really have a reason why as I suspect it's a tad slower than most and I see it pretty high on the battery usage on my tablet but it's always just been my "go-to" browser.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.
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I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.
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I may give a try to CAF Chromium browser, it's a Chrome fork compiled with optimization for Qualcomm devices. I'll try it and see if it's better on memory usage. My main complaint with Chrome is that, it eat as much memory as it can, then other apps in the background are forced out of RAM. So, when you want to open other apps, they have to be completely reloaded instead of just restarting them from RAM. Also, I'm fussy too...
Firefox. My beloved (and needed) extensions work on Android. And it's synchronized with my desktop too.
Chromium
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Firefox i use linux on laptop so both phone and laptop are coordinated
Been using Dolphin for a couple of years. The main initial reason was the cookies/browsing data clearing is only one swipe and click away when browsing, super handy as I read a newspaper every day which only allows 10 free articles a month lol. Clear data, instantly ready for another 10 articles.
Been a fan of Opera since my first Android phone
Used NoChromo for a while (built in adblocking) but now back to using opera mini or lightning. Use lightning with java script turned off, which makes for a super fast browser. Generally breaks discussion/commenting and some page navigation. But works equally well with java script turned on and is very lightweight.
Find chrome is far too resource hungry and I really don't like the firefox tab interface.
Most of popular like chrome, Firefox, Dolphin are good performer.... Depends upon your needs and usage..... But I am big fan of uc browser and using it for a long time... Better in memory management... Has in built ad blocker.... Its to had limited addons support.... Also has Flash compatability.... Most under rated browser of the store but works like butter for me switching tabs also easiest.... Give it a shot....
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It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.
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Using uc browser for browsing fb and downloading while chrome for browsing every other site.
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I have had good luck with Maxthon. I prefer a older version of it though.
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Previously using dolphin but now using ghostery as my main browser
I'm using Boat Browser as it looks great, is stable and fast and has support (PRO) for Firefox account, so I can easily check my PC bookmarks from Waterfox.
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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast
M46 build from 19.12.2015 is the newest one?
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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast
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Already tried CAF-Chromium, yes it's faster than official Google Chrome but there was still bugs and lags preventing me from using it as a daily driver. Sometimes, web pages get stuck and the app become totally unresponsive and I had to do a force close. For now, I'm back with Opera, not too bloated it's light on memory and it has all the features I need.
Using Firefox because I like the way it works. Interface is, to me, the best of the bunch and all in all it has the best performance. Used Opera a lot but had a lot of excellent | horrible experiences with it. That is, sometimes it was great but often things would not render properly or it would die. Chrome has generally been slower than FF for a couple years now and FF has been much more stable. Chrome blocks much more.
I just want a browser that doesn't make me care about which one I am using. FF is that. It just works.
Also, it gives me more control over crap like webrtc.
I mostly use Opera mini as it loads page faster, it saves data, it consume less memory, and second choice is puffin Web browser it's lighting fast I bet. It supports flash, and had many more advantages.
I always go back to Firefox. I need adblock. I've already accepted annoying ads in apps. So blocking adds in the browser is at least some satisfaction.
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