I have always seen threads here of people getting so much better battery life then what I am getting.
I am down to 80% after 1 hour and 14 minutes after unplugging from the charger.
Here is my configuration:
Cyanogen 5.0.6
Pershoot's Kernel 2.6.33.3 (OC/UV to 1.113GHZ)
On 3G with 5 bars
SetCPU (Ondemand)-
Sleep/Standby: 384 Max, 245 Min
Power < 100%: 1113 Max, 245 Min
Display: 28%, 44 Minutes Time On
Live Wallpaper: Nexus
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Usage:
-Listened to 1 song via the Music App
-Voice Calls: 5 Minutes and 26 Seconds
-Used Maps to get directions for my sister (Did not use GPS)
-Read a couple of articles on Newsroom
-Viewed news feed on Facebook
-Posted 2 status updates on Facebook
-Viewed recent Twitter tweets
I don't know why Skyfire is in the list since I did not use it at all, nor was it running in the background.
Widgets:
-Pure Calendar
-Facebook
-FML
-Beautiful Widgets
-Smooth Calendar
-Pandora
-Music
-DriveSafe
That's about it. If you have any other questions please let me know.
Just a shot in the dark, but you have a lot of widgets running, and your over clocked, as well as having a live background, my guess is its draining as it should be!
My 2 cents: I just lost 30% in 2 days with my setup... try it out.
Switch to intersectRaven's 33.4 Kernel (the 925mV Version, Latest Release)
Download Task Manager (i use the regular one with the little green android)
Setup Task Manager to ignore only 2 or 3 important apps (like the clock if you use an alarm) Also, set it up to kill all tasks 5 mins after screen goes black.
That should increase your battery life quite a bit.
jn_vista said:
Just a shot in the dark, but you have a lot of widgets running, and your over clocked, as well as having a live background, my guess is its draining as it should be!
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Well the kernel is undervolted so having it overlocked supposedly doesn't decrease battery life. As far as the widgets and live wallpaper go, I thought they don't use that much battery?.
mrandroid said:
My 2 cents: I just lost 30% in 2 days with my setup... try it out.
Switch to intersectRaven's 33.4 Kernel (the 925mV Version, Latest Release)
Download Task Manager (i use the regular one with the little green android)
Setup Task Manager to ignore only 2 or 3 important apps (like the clock if you use an alarm) Also, set it up to kill all tasks 5 mins after screen goes black.
That should increase your battery life quite a bit.
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I've been meaning to try a new Kernel. Thanks for the info, I will try intersectRaven's and see how it goes. By the way, you lost 30% in 2 days is crazy! What type of usage have you put it through?
Am I the only one who thinks it's a heavy use and the drain is perfectly normal? I can bet that during those 1.25 hours the phone rested maybe several minutes - only the drain from reading a couple of articles would cover 10%...
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Am I the only one who thinks it's a heavy use and the drain is perfectly normal? I can bet that during those 1.25 hours the phone rested maybe several minutes - only the drain from reading a couple of articles would cover 10%...
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Nope! I can drain a quarter of my battery, at home, while using 3G, just browsing the internet, in about that time...
Jack_R1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks it's a heavy use and the drain is perfectly normal? I can bet that during those 1.25 hours the phone rested maybe several minutes - only the drain from reading a couple of articles would cover 10%...
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Well I never thought of it that way. The articles weren't that long (3-6 paragraphs) but then again I am not sure how much drain NewsRoom has when it fetches them.
Vandam500 said:
Well I never thought of it that way. The articles weren't that long (3-6 paragraphs) but then again I am not sure how much drain NewsRoom has when it fetches them.
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Not sure about fetching, probably not much. But screen being on (and probably with white background and non-minimal brightness) for the time of reading drains a lot.
I finally rooted last night and flashed cyanogen latest ROM and now suddenly have the same poor battery life. I used stock for 3 months and this is an enormous difference than stock. I'm at 59 minutes and down to 76 % already. I have no apps installed or any widgets since I only just flashed. Stock cyanogen. So why is cyanogen So power hungry?
Pure calendar.
I totally respect the programmer and love his apps. But everytime batery has been an issue removing the widget has usually been tied to better battery life. Placebo ?..maybe..
I got terrible life with Cyn 6.05
Helix is supposedly a battery raper. That + Pure would suck Batt life like mad for me.
Both 5.05 and Froyo give me much better results.
xManMythLegend said:
Pure calendar.
I totally respect the programmer and love his apps. But everytime batery has been an issue removing the widget has usually been tied to better battery life. Placebo ?..maybe..
I got terrible life with Cyn 6.05
Helix is supposedly a battery raper. That + Pure would suck Batt life like mad for me.
Both 5.05 and Froyo give me much better results.
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Hmm I just added it to one of my homescreens. I will see if the battery changes cause I have been getting a lot better battery life with Froyo
RogerPodacter said:
I finally rooted last night and flashed cyanogen latest ROM and now suddenly have the same poor battery life. I used stock for 3 months and this is an enormous difference than stock. I'm at 59 minutes and down to 76 % already. I have no apps installed or any widgets since I only just flashed. Stock cyanogen. So why is cyanogen So power hungry?
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Yeah it definitely is Cyanogen. Since I flashed Froyo, my battery life has doubled in comparison to CM 5.0.6 (I hear that 5.0.7 is even worse).
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Yeah it definitely is Cyanogen. Since I flashed Froyo, my battery life has doubled in comparison to CM 5.0.6 (I hear that 5.0.7 is even worse).
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Ive been wondering the same thing and considering installing his "perks" seperately.
I do wonder if its Helix. More than a few times Ive heard people claim piss poor battery life.
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Ive been wondering the same thing and considering installing his "perks" seperately.
I do wonder if its Helix. More than a few times Ive heard people claim piss poor battery life.
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I had terrible problems on CM 5.05 and 5.06. I tried what I thought was everything: setcpu, taskmanagers, every kernel known to xda. Nothing helped.
And then, one day, when I had stopped trying, I noticed I was getting good battery life again. What changed? My main suspects are replacement launchers, such as Helixlauncher etc., wifi turned on when no wifi is available -- this was big one!
And apps trying to update all the time.
Your screen was on for 44 minutes out of 74 minutes? I'm going to label that a big fat duh.
juice defender works great doubled my batterylife
I am a battery cheapstake and get pretty good battery about a day and change, with one hour on the phone and some google searching/mapping and surfing and a game or two, if you do the following:
Keep screen at minimal. You can increase it on command from the command widget if you really it, like when outdoors in bright sunlight. It takes 1 second to change and it can save you tons of battery during the course of the day.
Same goes with keep the battery to turn off after 15-30 seconds. Again, over the course of the day it adds up.
Remove live-wall papers, they are nothing but a drain. I am an photographer enthusiast so I use my own photography, a dark shot to save on battery as well. Plus it is nice to show your own stuff than someone elses.
Use no polling widgets, unless you need to. I only have 4 widgets and none pull down anything from the net at anytime. If I need twitter, it takes 2 seconds to open the app.
One of the widgets I DO have is the 2G/3G switch. When the Nexus is in my pocket, I do not need it to download/upload/sync with anything at lighting speeds. So if anything gets updated, it will be slower but I do not care. If I need the phone, I switch the puppy to 3G and fly. Savings are HUGE and guarantees my phone will have juice when I NEED it, and not use up while on standby.
I read that having task killers is a waste of time on Android. Since it is not a Windows device, ram and apps are not handled the same way. I used to kill everything on site on my old Tytn so I thought it natural. However, I read that Android is fairly good at memory managment. So for now, what I do is back out, out of all my apps --unless they have an 'exit' option. I am currently experimenting with that, after using a number of task killers from the market I think I have a fair idea of what I should and should not expect. I will let you know.
If you really want to make a difference, uncheck 'background sync' on settings under the sync option. If I need to check my email, I can again, pull it down fast. I know a few people who want to have everything push, however, unless you are that popular that you get emails\twitter & facebook notifications every 2-minutes or because of work then it is not really needed.
It is a bit of a trade-off, but you can't expect to have a running a 1Mhz chipped, huge screened, live wall-papered, widget-polling that is always connected to the internet device and expect it to to last you more than a day with an -in my opinion, fairly small- sub 1500mAh battery. If you had, say
<3000mAh, ahhh..., then that would be something.
Feels a bit cramped but i like the swipe to the media section. Either way great to have options good luck with getting it to work fully.
5.0.7 worked wonders for me batterywise.. better than stock AND slightly better than Froyo.
Is weird that some phone works better than other phones with the same ROM...funny..
I would revert back to Cyanogen if the wifi could stay constantly on. Thats the only thing stopping me.
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My fascinate lasted longer. This has been on standby more than used. Im even running autokiller and advanced taskiller
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Hmm
Bionic has
bigger screen, thus need more power
dual core process, thus need more power
LTE 4G, thus need more power
Hard to compare it against fascinate. Why my Lexus GS drain more gas than my Camry XLE V6. they are both V6..heheeh
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Try not doing that.
Looks like you have no 4G where you are... make sure you are set to CDMA only in the network settings.
My battery seems to suck a little bit, too. On the drive in to work this morning, a 1 hour commute, my bionic sat on the seat next to me without being used. It still managed to chomp through 20% of the battery. So, basically at that rate, I'll get 5 hours of standby. Wonder if something is wrong?
Bluetooth (which seems to be a battery hog) was off, wifi was off... not sure what to do other than swap the battery with a replacement.
install system panel, turn on monitoring for everything, use that to determine how much cpu useage apps are using.
if you have an app(s) that are using near 100% cpu useage 24x7 that would happen
I have had the phone since 9am yesterday and have not been impressed with the battery so far. Today was the first full charge and I am at 60% after 2.5hrs. Most of my power consumption has been "Cell Standby" and not the screen which I would normally see.
Pitnefor said:
install system panel, turn on monitoring for everything, use that to determine how much cpu useage apps are using.
if you have an app(s) that are using near 100% cpu useage 24x7 that would happen
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Thanks! Will give it a try and report back. I hope I can get this resolved.
UPDATE: Installed System Panel and ran it for a couple days. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I let the phone discharge completely and then charged it completely before turning it back on. I got about 26 hours of moderate use before it needed to be charged again. Slightly heavier use got me to about 15 hours. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong, and the battery is light-years better than that of my old Eris. So I'm happy!
I'm actually getting pretty good battery life.. I use wifi when im home and at the office. With moderate to heavy use I didn't need to charge my phone until at least 18 hours. I know most say its not necessary, but I have a habit of fully charging my phone prior to first use and allowing it to drain completely before recharging.. perhaps that helped..
My battery has been doing great so far. Been using it a lot today and I'm at 45 percent after 8 hours of use. In me experience, it takes a few full charges before a battery gets fully calibrated. I've read that elsewhere as well. I've been very satisfied so far with battery life. I keep it on wifi at home and work so that probably helps alot.
I would say do a few discharge/full charge cycles on the phone first. Give it a few days to calibrate properly.
Also custom ROM's should help to remove undoubtable bloat that this phone comes with.
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Looks like you have no 4G where you are... make sure you are set to CDMA only in the network settings.
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No 4G here either, didn't think to change that. Thanks! One additional question about the battery. I have a battery widget that displays the % remaining. I noticed that it drops in 10% increments instead of 1% like it used to on my Eris. I also checked About Phone > Status > Battery level and it seemed to decrease in 10% increments there as well. Is this normal with the Bionic? Or is something wrong with mine?
Has anyone else noticed this?
mine seems to be dropping by 10% as well, but my usage has been fairly good. Much better yesterday than today. Should know better if a day or two.
Task killers are bad since Froyo (2.2). Android actively manages applications and shuts them down when space is needed. Your task killed just winds up arm-wrestling with the OS, making both work overtime and not accomplishing a thing. Let the OS do what it's designed to do.
For those of you just starting with 4G, if you live in a non-4G area or are on the border where 4G and 3G constantly swap out, this will play hell on your battery, so turn 4G off unless you're in a place to take advantage of it.
Pentile screens are power sippers, so don't be surprised if your screen % is lower than normal.
I may be wrong, but I don't believe dual-core processors consume too much more power than single cores under normal circumstances.
Turn off bluetooth, satellite and wifi when not in use, and especially when unavailable. Leaving wifi up when you're away from home can chew up a lot of power as the phone is constantly seeking a signal.
Putting the screen on auto brightness may save some power. Also setting the screen time-out to a reasonable time will help.
Make sure you don't have a dozen accounts like Facebook, Gmail, Yahoo and Twitter checking for updates constantly.
You don't have to train lithium ion batteries like we used to with nickle-cadium back in the day, but your battery has some simple logic in it that takes care of housekeeping. When you first get it, and about once a month after, you should drain your phone's battery completely and then charge it back up. This helps the battery, and therefore the phone, understand how much power is left with greater accuracy. If you'd like to research this subject, I suggest Battery University and Apple.
I am having horrible battery issues now, my battery is not lasting 6 hours with very light usage.
right now my usages shows
Battery 15%
4h 56m 21s on battery
media 46%
cell standby 24%
phone idle 21%
voice calls 5%
display 4%
social location2%
this is the first time i have seen media at the top of the list, usually it is cell standby that has been using the most
this has been going on since saturday, i have two batteries and it does this on both, i figure it must be an app i loaded. i dont think i have loaded anything that i didnt use on my OGDroid but one of them must be disagreeing with the Bionic. i am planning and doing a factory reset tonight (as much as i hate doing it)
any other ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
effinay said:
My battery seems to suck a little bit, too. On the drive in to work this morning, a 1 hour commute, my bionic sat on the seat next to me without being used. It still managed to chomp through 20% of the battery. So, basically at that rate, I'll get 5 hours of standby. Wonder if something is wrong?
Bluetooth (which seems to be a battery hog) was off, wifi was off... not sure what to do other than swap the battery with a replacement.
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This is a 4G pitfall. You're probably going in and out of 4G/3G coverage... it may seem like a lot, but when your phone is constantly looking for 4G the battery goes QUICK. Your best bet? Turn on 3G only (cdma only) when you drive. There are widgets in the market that will take you directly to the setting.
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Right now im at 1 day 3 hours 46 minutes with 30% left. That's with an extended battery and mild use. Just testing, browsing xda app, and reading news in pulse. Few emails and some web browsing.
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Not sure what my battery life was before i rooted and debloated since i ran stock for about 15 mins, but with very heavy use i get about 7 hrs, with normal use i get about 16 hrs
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Battery life is incredible on this phone.
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so I did a hard reset and sent my phone back to factory default :-( and let it sit for a few hours with nothing on it except for juice plotter so i could monitor it and it was still pretty crappy I then removed everything i had copied from both SD cards (ie. photos, music and movies from my OGDroid) and let it sit for a few more hours and the batterylife improved dramatically, I am guessing there is an indexing service or a DRM service of some sort that is part of MOTOBLUR and it must have been continually hitting my cards.
today the battery life is back to normal. i have installed just a few things like friendcaster adwlauncher and a few others that i normally have and have used the phone moderately for the last 3 hours and it appears i might get another 10 - 12 hours outta of it..
does anyone know why i had issues when i put the media from my old phone onto my new one, do photos and videos have to be in a specific directory or on one of the two cards specifically??
any help would be appreciated.
Just wondering what other people are getting. With light to moderate use it took me 19hrs to get to 26% remaining and that is with some movie watching taking some 3D Photo's watching some 3D Video from youtube and playing a game or two here and there. Anyway I have not actually done anything to get that amount of life just for those that might ask, no special App No Extended Battery etc.
Battery life is getting better, still not great but since I'm always near a charger I don't really have trouble in that respect.
Yea I have noticed that too the longer it stays on and the longer I have it the better the battery life is getting. Than again that happens when you flash roms a lot too also depends on what you have running etc etc. So I guess I should not be surprised to see a fluctuation of 20-40% difference between user's.
My battery life has been dismal to say the least. I was really liking this phone but with no access to a charger I am afraid I will have to bring it back. Mine seems to drop battery sitting in the box turned off. Maybe its defective?
rsohne said:
My battery life has been dismal to say the least. I was really liking this phone but with no access to a charger I am afraid I will have to bring it back. Mine seems to drop battery sitting in the box turned off. Maybe its defective?
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Use Juice defender from the market
juice defender has really done the trick for me. I actually would have returned the device if it wasn't for it.
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battery life = fail. I really wanted to like this phone and got it as an iphone 4 replacement. so far there are several things I dont like about it and battery life in probably number one.
Well from what I have read on a different part of this there is a 1930 mah (whatever its called) battery you can get that doesn't require modifying the case of the phone. I can only assume that would help those that are having issues with battery life. Also I am guessing once we get some custom Rom's running that will also help quite a bit considering I think 2.3.3 or one of those had some mods to help battery life issues that froyo had.
My battery life sucks, but I'm on it constantly so I understand. I love the phone still. Bad thing about android devices is the battery life. But I'm not going back to an iphone or blackberry! A better phone > battery life.
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Here is what my batter looks like after a while. Its currently at 79% on the stock battery.
I usually have very heavy usage on my phone, but as you can tell not too much in the past 17hrs.
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As you can tell the system manages to use up a lot of the battery.
This was def changed on my Captivate with a custom rom, with great results to the battery life.
So I can image with an upgraded rom and an upgraded battery(coming this week) this phone should def do damn well!
I have also just installed SuperPower to help manage some of the data items and such when the phone screen is off to maximize battery life. For those that have SetCPU you can also do the smae things with a little more customization.
Can you care to share your super power settings?
7 1/2 hours today with heavy use.
Making some more changes tomorrow
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yeah Ill post it up tomorrow as im heading to bed right now and its charging.
I ran my phone from a charge til it was dead and got about 26.5 hrs and that was with Pandora running for 3 hrs and some 3d movies playing as well as YouTube and some net surfing. As well as checking my email all day
SuperPower Settings
Ok since I dont remember what the default has enabled or disable I will just post what I have checked off(enabled) in my settings.
Root Features>
-CPU Scaling :Enable
-CPU Scaling: ondemand
Screen state>
- Auto data disable
- Auto Wi-Fi disable
- Auto Bluetooth disable
- Auto CPU speed
- Delay action for...30 seconds
Wi-Fi network>
- Auto data disable
- Auto Wi-Fi disable
Background Data and Auto-Sync
- Control Auto-Sync
- Wi-Fi
Lock screen
- Do not enable Wi-Fi
- Do not enable Bluetooth
Other settings below that I have not changed.
Other things I did to save battery and improve my experience.
Used Application Manager to end all task when I was done using the phone.
Used Titanium Backup to remove bloatware.
Oh and I also use a black background
hope this helps improve your battery life.
LOL...a lot of these settings don't work for me... I actually use my phone Haha.
I could see a few being useful though...which is why I haven't responded with "why not just toggle airplane mode"
It was my understanding background choice does not affect this type of screen. Brightness does but do some tests. You background shouldn't have an ill affect on battery life unless amoled screen
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Upgrading the battery to the 1980 MAH one will be the first accessory that I buy when I get this phone.
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LOL...a lot of these settings don't work for me... I actually use my phone Haha.
I could see a few being useful though...which is why I haven't responded with "why not just toggle airplane mode"
It was my understanding background choice does not affect this type of screen. Brightness does but do some tests. You background shouldn't have an ill affect on battery life unless amoled screen
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oh I use my phone as well. But with the settings it does not fetch for updates or data while the phone is locked. I still recieve calls and text just fine.
Yeah for the screen I wasnt sure but figured it couldnt hurt. I came from a cappy so this was something I always did.
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oh I use my phone as well. But with the settings it does not fetch for updates or data while the phone is locked. I still recieve calls and text just fine.
Yeah for the screen I wasnt sure but figured it couldnt hurt. I came from a cappy so this was something I always did.
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I have to have my background data...
most have my google voice number rather than my "real" number...plus I keep track of alot of work stuff via email etc but hey..whatever works right?
yesterday= 20+ hrs...one charge
Still convinced it can be better so tweaking some more...then diving into custom roms on this bad boy when I finally get a day off next week
after using it for almost two weeks... the battery has improved itself just through charging and discharging.. i am running THriller rom... and it is a little better than stock.. not much.... i get a full day with average use... and wifi left on all day.
but today i just got my 1980 mah battery in the mail.. so im excited to see what kind of usage i get out of it now!!!
will post back with my results soon!!!
Hello,
im thinking on buying the Note =]
i wanted to ask "heavy","excessive" users how is the phone battery drain ?>
*how long your phone lasts without charge (excessive,heavy use)?
*how long your phone lasts without charge (normal use)?
Im only use any of my smartphones with excessive,heavy use.
I have only 2 full battery circles and im using stock root rom/kernel.
All my phones was with very good custom kernels and lower voltages cause i wanted to stay alive during the day (8-23:00).
Now,my battery keep up the day but more easy than my previous phones (you can see which in my sign).
So, even my battery is new with few full circles, even im not using custom kernel for uc or uv, its better than my previous smartphones.
For a 5.3" display the battery life is exceeding expectations.. Based on my usage it has more battery life than the Galaxy S2 altho movie time is still the same at 8:30hrs to 9:00
I think it's very hard to define excessive vs normal use. Also the usage patterns of different people varies greatly. mostly because some use wifi on 100% of the time, others just turn it on here and there to check emails. Same for background sync and autosync which are battery drainers . So it's really hard to compare...
I keep my Wifi constantly on, background sync on, autosync is off but I have a task in Tasker to autosync every three hours manually. I have some push emails in K9 and twitter, gtalk and tapatalk syncing.
So on a day of super heavy usage the phone will last about 16-17 hours (ofcourse that includes about 7 hours of sleep time). With normal to moderate use I can make about 24-27 hours.
Hi people! I'm noob here! (wanted to write new but couldn't resist!)
I recently bought the Note and been having a few hard times with a couple of things.
One of the specifics concern battery life. Having been showered in the awesomeness of a 2,5 ma battery i thought the battery would be invulnerable but i was wrong.
The first 4 days the battery lasted me quite fine having to charge the phone once every two days. Heavy consumption was done for brief periods of 1-1:30 hours where i would try to shape my phone in the image that i wanted.
By the end of the fourth day i had a respectable amount of apps inside but not too many to explain the fact that my battery life now has decreased to 1 day.
I kinda panicked when i noticed the difference and went ahead to install Juice defender and advanced task cleaner apps. What's weird is the fact that before i did i would charge the phone before going to bed at night and then pull the plug when it would be full. By the morning the phone had lost about 25% while inert!
Noticing that i would go to the battery use feature in settings and see that the radio(!) which i hadn't been using was eating away my battery's life along with the screen which was inactive as a consequence of the phone in locked mode and a few other apps which filled the rest of the loss.
I tried to kill apps and i use Juice defender pro in custom advanced mode effectively rendering the phone dead after locking. It still consumes the same percentage of battery although now it blames the radio less and the live wallpaper more.
Am i to assume that my battery has reached it's "puberty" and that's "normal" from now on or is there a problem i just can't diagnose due to lack of experience?
This phone is my first android device. I do not know my way around it although i am learning more and more in a rapid learning curve.
Please note anything you might think has escaped my attention.
Thank you.
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Hi people! I'm noob here! (wanted to write new but couldn't resist!)
I recently bought the Note and been having a few hard times with a couple of things.
One of the specifics concern battery life. Having been showered in the awesomeness of a 2,5 ma battery i thought the battery would be invulnerable but i was wrong.
The first 4 days the battery lasted me quite fine having to charge the phone once every two days. Heavy consumption was done for brief periods of 1-1:30 hours where i would try to shape my phone in the image that i wanted.
By the end of the fourth day i had a respectable amount of apps inside but not too many to explain the fact that my battery life now has decreased to 1 day.
I kinda panicked when i noticed the difference and went ahead to install Juice defender and advanced task cleaner apps. What's weird is the fact that before i did i would charge the phone before going to bed at night and then pull the plug when it would be full. By the morning the phone had lost about 25% while inert!
Noticing that i would go to the battery use feature in settings and see that the radio(!) which i hadn't been using was eating away my battery's life along with the screen which was inactive as a consequence of the phone in locked mode and a few other apps which filled the rest of the loss.
I tried to kill apps and i use Juice defender pro in custom advanced mode effectively rendering the phone dead after locking. It still consumes the same percentage of battery although now it blames the radio less and the live wallpaper more.
Am i to assume that my battery has reached it's "puberty" and that's "normal" from now on or is there a problem i just can't diagnose due to lack of experience?
This phone is my first android device. I do not know my way around it although i am learning more and more in a rapid learning curve.
Please note anything you might think has escaped my attention.
Thank you.
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Your question is a little OT but i'll try to answer real quick.
25% loss of battery sounds about right if you have your Auto Sync ON.
Disable it and you'll go down to about 10% a night. Am i right or am i totally off here ?
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Your question is a little OT but i'll try to answer real quick.
25% loss of battery sounds about right if you have your Auto Sync ON.
Disable it and you'll go down to about 10% a night. Am i right or am i totally off here ?
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I'll try it and see tonight. Thanks mfractal. Having been an IPhone 3G owner i gotta say, it's still kinda disheartening to see that 10% battery loss overnight is considered "normal". Will work my way around purchasing a second backup battery for emergencies.
Thanks again.
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I'll try it and see tonight. Thanks mfractal. Having been an IPhone 3G owner i gotta say, it's still kinda disheartening to see that 10% battery loss overnight is considered "normal". Will work my way around purchasing a second backup battery for emergencies.
Thanks again.
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i also come from an iphone, and yeah, you have to make some adjustments.
you can take that drain to 1-2% if you disable Background Sync.
this was my batteries first full cycle. but you should get a general idea of how it performed.
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this was what i would consider 'heavy' use, atleast by my standards. Edge only, Auto sync on, brightness at 75%, fairly frequent use.
Draining twice as fast after an update on apps this morning!
Hmmm, I have been using the Note for about 2 weeks now. With Juice Defender installed (with aggressive settings), I get by OK with the battery for a full day.
Well, that was until this morning when I ran an update of a few apps, and now I barely got to noon when the battery went completely drained. Same settings on Juice Defender.
Any clues on how to deal with this? I am thinking of reverting all the updates to double check.
guys, the steps to analyze battery drain are quite standard.
Download BetterBatteryStats (there's full version for free for XDA users, search the forum)
Download CPU Spy
Charge to 100%, reset statistics in CPU Spy and let the battery drain to 10-20%.
Then Analyze wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and you will see which programs keep your phone awake.
If you want to make sure the phone is entering sleep mode and staying there, reset cpu spy stats before going to sleep and check in the morning. more than 90% of the time the phone should be in deep sleep. If not - again, betterbatterystats's wakelocks will show you what's keeping the phone awake.
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i also come from an iphone, and yeah, you have to make some adjustments.
you can take that drain to 1-2% if you disable Background Sync.
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That's EXACTLY what happened! I am stunned! I left the phone last night at 97% and found it this morning at 95%!!! When i saw it i was dumbfounded!
Thank you very much mfractal!
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That's EXACTLY what happened! I am stunned! I left the phone last night at 97% and found it this morning at 95%!!! When i saw it i was dumbfounded!
Thank you very much mfractal!
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sure NP.
problem is that background sync is required by quite a lot of programs to function correctly. Hell, market won't even open with it disabled.
My battery life is pretty good atm considering its still a new toy and gets a heavy workout.
The battery life will improve over time as my usage will drop but with the screen it pretty much can replace my pc for any basic web stuff outside off the heavy duty work only a high spec PC is good for.
Disabling background sync defeats the purpose of having a smart phone, no?
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sure NP.
problem is that background sync is required by quite a lot of programs to function correctly. Hell, market won't even open with it disabled.
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I do like my phone and the screen real estate, and understand that, it can be major battery hog. But I would really like it to be super efficient when the screen is off.
I was looking at my battery drain graphs, (Settings>About Phone>battery usage) and noticed that my phone is active almost all through the night, (even when the screen is off).
So i loose 25-30 overnight, on IDLE.
Is this normal?
I'm using Exchange instead of the Gmail app for my mail. Does that use more battery?
Regards
gaddy888 said:
I do like my phone and the screen real estate, and understand that, it can be major battery hog. But I would really like it to be super efficient when the screen is off.
I was looking at my battery drain graphs, (Settings>About Phone>battery usage) and noticed that my phone is active almost all through the night, (even when the screen is off).
So i loose 25-30 overnight, on IDLE.
Is this normal?
I'm using Exchange instead of the Gmail app for my mail. Does that use more battery?
Regards
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Of course gmail use more battery like every app running in background and syncing.
But your battery drain overnight is really so much.
The normal is 1% per hour without any app syncing in background and about 2% or 3% with background syncing apps.So you must check your apps.Something draining your battery.
Overall,i don't believe that note battery isn't good.i think Samsung haven't done so good work in filmwares and apps.
I have removed the most of Samsung apps and my battery is great.
Maybe a update from Samsung solved battery issue.In nexus previous days released a filmware update which change amazing the battery life.users mention that they loose 2% overnight.And before this update nexus battery sucks!
So, we must pray for something similar in our note from Samsung...
Sent from the best smartphone, Galaxy Note...
Do you have auto sync on? If so please turn it off and watch the drain overnight drop to about 10%
If not then we got a problem
I got my Note two weeks ago and am since struggling with my battery usage as well.
It's hard to reproduce, but Android OS is the reason for excessive battery usage when the phone is idle.
Today I found this quite interesting. Please have a look at this screenshot:
Since a few days ago I'm using Llama to control some settings on my phone, but the drainage was present before I installed Llama.
When you look at the first gap in WiFi usage you can see the phone disconnecting from my WiFi router at home (TP-Link TL-WR1043ND) when Llama disabled my WiFi.
About 20 minutes later, when I arrived at the office, Llama reactivates WiFi and my phone connects to our WiFi access point at the office (TP-Link TL-WA801ND).
At this point Android OS usage goes up considerably and it won't stop, even if I disable the phone's WiFi.
Actually at the second, larger gap in WiFi usage I disabled the WiFi connection manually which caused my phone to stay awake until I activate WiFi again.
Edit: Using Titanium Backup I have frozen Wifi-Sharing and the Wifi Manager.
Apart from that, Wifi usage was never an issue on my old Milestone, where I had Wifi enabled permanently and the battery lasted for 4-5 days.
I'd be glad to provide more information if that could help figure out the cause of AOS's battery usage.
My phone is currently running:
PDA: N7000XXKK9
PHONE: N7000XXKK5
CSC: N7000OXAKK9
I installed FM-Kernel 1.4, hoping it would fix this issue. It did for a day or so...
Apart from the kernel it's the newest 2.3.6 stock ROM I received via FOTA though.
I easily get a good day out of mine with quite a bit of use. If use mine lightly I can get 2 days out of mine. If you are in need of urgent 3G switch 3G off to GSM to conserve battery life.
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I easily get a good day out of mine with quite a bit of use. If use mine lightly I can get 2 days out of mine. If you are in need of urgent 3G switch 3G off to GSM to conserve battery life.
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Sorry, I forgot to include it in my post.
Since I got the phone I have it set to 2G only, because I used up my monthly quota and am getting throttled to GPRS speeds anyway. So the 3G connection isn't the issue either.
Apart from that this happens in flight mode as well.
Omg the battery life sucks so much, is there anything I could do to fix this, its terrible... Like I would fully charge it then use it for 5 minutes and it will drain to about 5-6%
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Omg the battery life sucks so much, is there anything I could do to fix this, its terrible... Like I would fully charge it then use it for 5 minutes and it will drain to about 5-6%
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Did you just get the phone? You shouldn't be draining to 5% after 5 minutes no matter what you are doing... that's unreal. Unless you are starting from 10%...
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Omg the battery life sucks so much, is there anything I could do to fix this, its terrible... Like I would fully charge it then use it for 5 minutes and it will drain to about 5-6%
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You've gotta be a bit more specific than that. Exaggeration prevents us from helping you.
A few basic questions:
What ROM are you on?
Describe your "us[ing] it for 5 minutes".
Take a screenshot of your battery use screen and post it here or something (both the expanded graph and the app list would be good enough).
Riomaru said:
Omg the battery life sucks so much, is there anything I could do to fix this, its terrible... Like I would fully charge it then use it for 5 minutes and it will drain to about 5-6%
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which rom you are using？ Normally it should not like what you said.
O_O
Do you have GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth, Brightness maxed out, Downloading multiple things at once while playing multiple games or something?
Have you tried recalibrating your battery?
i have experienced amazing battery life on my Vivid, running Rum Float Beta 1, I can browse the web, play store, and download a few things over the course of two hours and my battery MIGHT drop down to 97% at the ,most.
Calibrated my battery stats though and let it fully cycle a few times.
just in case you don't know how.
Step 1: Let battery get VERY low.
Step 2: Boot into CWM Recovery.
Step 3: Clear battery stats (Advanced Settings > Clear Battery Stats)
Step 4: Reboot device.
Step 5: Let battery die fully.
Step 6: Plug in, do NOT turn on until FULLY charged.
Step 7: Before turning it on, boot into recovery and clear your battery stats once more.
Step 8: Use phone as normal, until battery gets critically low.
Step 9: Mercilessly kill your battery. Charge w/o turning it on again.
Step 10: When fully charged you may turn it on normally and resume regular usage.
That should help a bit with your battery issues. I know mine was dying pretty easily before I did the above.
I am using HoliRaider, Like a couple of days ago I was texting multiple people, without tuning of the screen and go use other apps and such.. It willl go from 100 to 96 in a few minutes.
Just some observations i took today using my vivid lightly to medium use i guess.Checked email several times,checked facebook several times,sent and received several text,3 short phone calls,checked and updated weather several times,Took 3 pictures and uploaded them to facebook,read a few pages of news on the web,and checked battery status throughout the day.I think that's about it lol.Anyways i took 3 screenshots of the battery level during the whole day today.To say the least im very impressed with the battery of this phone.Im running the new ICS 4.0 Sense 3.6 that was leaked.I have my sync setting to min needs.All vibration is off except for when typing in a message only because i haven't figured out how to disable it yet.Of course my battery has been cycled and is broke in well now.
Im still looking for ways to extend the battery even further.
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The screen is what kills my battery, it is usually over 70%. What is your brightness setting at?
Thanks
charlyee said:
The screen is what kills my battery, it is usually over 70%. What is your brightness setting at?
Thanks
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Using this ICS it really don't say a percentage but looks like around 30%.Automatic is way to bright and really kills the battery.
Juice defender ultimate does wonders...
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Just some observations i took today using my vivid lightly to medium use i guess.Checked email several times,checked facebook several times,sent and received several text,3 short phone calls,checked and updated weather several times,Took 3 pictures and uploaded them to facebook,read a few pages of news on the web,and checked battery status throughout the day.I think that's about it lol.Anyways i took 3 screenshots of the battery level during the whole day today.To say the least im very impressed with the battery of this phone.Im running the new ICS 4.0 Sense 3.6 that was leaked.I have my sync setting to min needs.All vibration is off except for when typing in a message only because i haven't figured out how to disable it yet.Of course my battery has been cycled and is broke in well now.
Im still looking for ways to extend the battery even further.
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Dang, that's some killer battery life. I'm not getting nearly as much as that on RumRaider (GB), and I keep my Wifi and Mobile Data off whenever I'm not using it.
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Dang, that's some killer battery life. I'm not getting nearly as much as that on RumRaider (GB), and I keep my Wifi and Mobile Data off whenever I'm not using it.
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Yes it is but i don't get near that with heavy use or if i get alot of email's etc.
At 14 hours today its down to 14% right now.Loading webpages and facebook really drains it quick.Plus watching videos.I wish there was a way to disable the led i think this would help greatly.I have all the notification flash settings off for everything but it still flashes when i get an email or missed call.
I managed to get even more time on one charge.Used the phone on WIFI most of the time during this charge and it seemed to do even better.
One Day One Hour & Seven Minutes with 14% left
On stock battery I struggle to get 6 hours.
However, this weekend I was able to get 16 HOURS!
What was the difference? This weekend I was on vacation. I talked much less on it and I was out of 4G area.
All the tweaking with screen brightness, data connections, CPU speed all make a small difference in comparison to voice.
Look at battery screenshots of people with long battery life. They don't talk on the phone. If you want good battery life,
get a bigger battery. Motorola gets it.... they doubled the size of their Razr Maxx battery. You'll see more of these 3000mah+ battery phones in the future.
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also i've found out if you turn off auto-sync it helps alot. i turned off auto-sync recently and expierienced at least a 2-3 hour increase in battery life
The issue is the battery size is absolutely ridiculous. Why in gods name they put such a small battery on an lte phone is beyond me. And alot of other htc phones at least have a name brand extended battery where you can still get a case. Me personally I have an aftermarket second battery and external charger as well as an external battery but it gets old. I'm not that bad but I probably if I'm lucky get 8 hours a charge. I really think ultimately its why I might look for something else when I get caught up financially, probably a nexus.
I just got better battery stats in hopes I can locate the source of the problem
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I'm getting 12-14 hours with my regular use. I have data/wifi always on, screen brightness is half way, and I'm happy with my battery life.
Sent from Illuminati land.
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I'm getting 12-14 hours with my regular use. I have data/wifi always on, screen brightness is half way, and I'm happy with my battery life.
Sent from Illuminati land.
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Is your brightness on auto or did you uncheck it?
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Is your brightness on auto or did you uncheck it?
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he said he has it on half way...
anyways...i get 13-15 hours with 20% left
I leave my screen brightness on auto
WiFi and Data is always on (i live in an LTE area too...so im almost always connected to LTE)
I leave accounts and Sync on
i get anywhere between 3-4 and a half hours of screen on time
My bro has the same phone...he gets about 8 hours of battery life, with about 1-2 hours of screen on time...we both have the same exact setup...
get the wcx illuminati rom.. the battery life gets increased by a ton. :victory: the only problem is you have to sign up and have ten posts before being able to download
Hi! I know Android since 2008 (HTC Hero), had tons of devices and (have to) use IPhone6 Plus for work.
Can someone please explain why IPhone is basically not draining battery when screen is off? I can put my IPhone with all services running...Facebook, email, Google, Instagram etc...If I dont use it 24h it maybe looses 3%...
But on Android...not matter what I do (Greenify, disabling notifications for Facebook, Instagram... etc..) I don't get anything close to that. I discovered across multiple devices with different ROMS. With my fresh OP3T it is not any different...
What is Apple doing differently here?
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Hi! I know Android since 2008 (HTC Hero), had tons of devices and (have to) use IPhone6 Plus for work.
Can someone please explain why IPhone is basically not draining battery when screen is off? I can put my IPhone with all services running...Facebook, email, Google, Instagram etc...If I dont use it 24h it maybe looses 3%...
But on Android...not matter what I do (Greenify, disabling notifications for Facebook, Instagram... etc..) I don't get anything close to that. I discovered across multiple devices with different ROMS. With my fresh OP3T it is not any different...
What is Apple doing differently here?
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Google has more services that sync in the background than apple by default, so things like location history (which I would recommend turning off) and sync for apps like Facebook that can't be disabled (unless you use Greenify) are the most common drains.
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Google has more services that sync in the background than apple by default, so things like location history (which I would recommend turning off) and sync for apps like Facebook that can't be disabled (unless you use Greenify) are the most common drains.
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I know But even if I change massively on Android incl. Wakelocks etc there is not a lot of change. Facebook I had e.g. on Cyanogenmod as "keep active = no" and others as well...But IP was still way much better. And I get all updates on my IP6 incl. ebay, messages etc....
Honestly it is annoying because stand by drain should be at least the same with all the measures we can do with a rooted device...but in reality IPhone keeps e.g. 100% for at least 8 or 10 hours....
I know location history has definetly some influence...is there any way to send location history maybe only every 10 min?
That's all due to optimization of the app code and the os
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Hi! I know Android since 2008 (HTC Hero), had tons of devices and (have to) use IPhone6 Plus for work.
Can someone please explain why IPhone is basically not draining battery when screen is off? I can put my IPhone with all services running...Facebook, email, Google, Instagram etc...If I dont use it 24h it maybe looses 3%...
But on Android...not matter what I do (Greenify, disabling notifications for Facebook, Instagram... etc..) I don't get anything close to that. I discovered across multiple devices with different ROMS. With my fresh OP3T it is not any different...
What is Apple doing differently here?
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Set localization to battery saving mode, and you should get better results on Android. IOS is better optimized though so you wont get the same results on android. Also if you suggest on battery stats you shouldnt comaper androids SoT and ios "device active" or something because they are not the same.
I know it's really bad. Look at my results. Can't even run for half day on battery
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If you want really disgusting battery life, give the moto z play a try. My wife got one recently and it is unbelievable. +10 hours SOT over 48 hours with sync on and no battery saving techniques. It's only got a 3500 mah battery, which leads me to believe CPU efficiency plays a bigger role in battery life than optimization of the OS.
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I know it's really bad. Look at my results. Can't even run for half day on battery
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Because your device doesn't sleep, if it sleeps (screen is off) the battery drain should be way closer to a solid line that barely goes 1-2% down. Buy you are ilon Nougat CM 14.1? It's known that sleep is currently broken on 7.1 Nougat for Oneplus 3.
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I know it's really bad. Look at my results. Can't even run for half day on battery 
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I think there is something really draining your battery or your battery is dieing.
Look here cb 8.
Download betterbatterystats this should give you a clear view what is the cause. Here an average drain of 1.7% per hour.
snippem said:
I think there is something really draining your battery or your battery is dieing.
Look here cb 8.
Download betterbatterystats this should give you a clear view what is the cause. Here an average drain of 1.7% per hour.
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Hi I have better battery stats installed nothing significant in there too. I am. Running 4g all the time may be that's why the drain is so bad
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thank you for all the feedbacks. Just wanted to start discussion about it!
Real life experience with my work iphone 6plus yesterday.
3% at 8pm...sync and all services on (gmail, location for google, facebook, ebay, instagram etc...) and running. Phone was ringing twice because of skype call coming in, but was not used...Next morning 7am still at 2%....
Android got better, much better, but still is far from that....pretty much the only part I like about IP
ip6?!?..
It's that a phone?!?..:laugh:
The Iphone has better battery life, easily.
However, the battery life on this phone is such that it shouldn't be a problem... Who goes a day or two without access to a charger?
If you are doing nothing but watch Netflix and play Pokemon all day, yeah, the OP3 will run out of juice... But at that point you don't have a social life, so you can hug the wall and recharge and not miss a beat.
Phone was at 98% at 1:00am and then 96% at 8:30 when I woke back up. All sync is on. No greenify or anything like that. I think standby drain is just fine.
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iOS does too. Here's a screenshot from my iPad. I was getting all notifications on time and did everything on it except game.
Over three weeks off the charger:
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"Stand by 22 DAYS"..., hilarious. Apple drollery..
If I was a hardcore user, (which I'm not,) all that would concern me is whether my phone could last a day after a few years of use.
As a light user, its nice that my battery can go days but that's what it really is, a nicety.
Dunno about OP but my IP6 always had at least 8-10% battery drain overnight, and I never even had Facebook on it (just Messenger). OP3 is at 3-6% most of times, depending on how many times it got woken up due to notifications.
My battery life is just perfect.
Beta 8 Nougat.
Beta 9 is even better.