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I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
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There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.
Ok, thanks!
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.
I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader
EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.
Hey there,
i was just wondering if there is a way to "downgrade my N1 in order to root" like it is told in the tut "root w/o unlocking"
I've already tried the "Stuck on FRF91?" tut but unfortunately N1 told me "Main version too old"...
Any solution on this?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi again,
i was trying just another passimg.zip and with this, there is no "sorry, but main version too old" message - hboot just loads the image, checks and then goes back to "hboot main menu" w/o doing anything... any ideas? used this: 22607-ERD79-update-nexusone-stock-signed.zip
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tried to flash the FRF91 universal update...it says:"signature verification failed" or something like that...
EDIT: same happens, when i try to "update" the VF FRF91 again - is there any way to "reflash" such as a recovery/BACKUP? thanks!
has nobody any idea?
Did you just try the rest of the guide without downgrading?
not yet - from which point should i start with?
"loop" - command doesn't work for me... (cmd window in sdk/tools )
I was having issues with the EPF30 VF firmware as well, eventually I had to unlock the boot loader then downgrade it to ERD79 once I did that I got the option for upgrading it OTA to FRF91 as I didn't want to root it. Looks like you may have to unlock it to get back down to ERD79 then root.
well, that is exactly the problem I got I don't want to unlock the BL until it is confirmed that there is no way to switch from VF FRF91 to US FRF91 (shouldn't it be nearly the same thing?)
I downgraded my N1 following that tut, but i used the EPF30 ROM instead.
Here is the link to the EPF30 ROM:
mediafire(dot)com/?q4jrntqdywu
hmmm im wdonering the solution to this too
Stoney92 said:
I downgraded my N1 following that tut, but i used the EPF30 ROM instead.
Here is the link to the EPF30 ROM:
mediafire(dot)com/?q4jrntqdywu
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can you get root with this?
I think so, i didn't try it but i guess you can root with 2.1 (EFP30 VF)?
Can anyone confirm this?
You can give it a try.
w/o unlocking BL it's not possible! (vf 2.1)
if there won't be any solution (root w/o unlocking) i'm going to unlock BL this WE
im gona send my phone in as a replacement, but i want to make sure everything looks stock before it send it in, i found a couple of ways to return to stock but i keep getting signiture verified failed, and i assume its because i have an unlocked bootloader, can any 1 help?
You should be able to find the stock rom for unlocked users in the development section. Just flash that and you will be back on stock.
But you can't re-lock the bootloader. When you unlocked it you voided the warranty, and it stays that way.
If it is a physical hardware problem, you should be able to still get warranty though.
Sorry, I meant to say my bootloader is locked, I don't have a problem with the rom, but the recovery. I am on ra recovery atm and I want to go back to google's stock. Is there anyway to do that?
Im pretty sure this works for all phones but if you flash Official OTA it will put everything back to stock(except bootloader if it has been unlocked) but doing this you will also loose root as well
i would wait for some one to tell you another way to get back to stock recovery, im sure there is a way to do it in adb or something.. Flashing the official OTA should be like a last thing wanting to do
Look for the stock recovery Tom for your phone then just flash with fastboot. That's the easiest way that I. Did it.
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codearray said:
Look for the stock recovery Tom for your phone then just flash with fastboot. That's the easiest way that I. Did it.
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He cant do fastboot, he has locked Bootloader.
yeah, it saids verification failed and wouldnt let me flash anything onto it
oops my bad. I had an unlocked bootloader. My other phone is locked.
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yeah, it saids verification failed and wouldnt let me flash anything onto it
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Yeah i had the same problem when i tried to revert mine to stock. My bootloader was lock and wouldnt let me reflash the stock rom with verification failed.
NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY, DO AT YOUR OWN RISK :
I renamed the image to PASSIMG.zip and booted into bootloader. The bootloader automatically searches for PASSIMG and when it found it went through an update/installing process which took about 5minutes. When it booted phone was unrooted again, and had the stock recovery.
Once that was done, i installed the FRF85 (i think) update.zip from bootloader recovery, then did the same with update.zip for FRF91.
Again not sure if this was the correct way as i have never seen posts directing to do it this way - have posted questions about it in the past week or two, but never got any responses...
I'm gonna bump this thread up again. I tried downloading the original PASSIMG file for the stock and when I try and flash it by putting it on the SD card I get that the main file is older and the install is aborted. I can't fastboot the files because my bootloader is not unlocked. I'm currently running a FRG83 based ROM, does this matter? I'd like to return my phone to stock recovery and stock ROM, but so far every attempt has been met in failure... I guess it's an irony of rooting a phone without unlocking a bootloader. If you have to send it in for repairs you have to unlock the bootloader to return to stock, or you can't return to stock and you're left with custom recovery and root... either way HTC knows you're rooted. I know my issue is a hardware issue, but it would be my luck they decide to void my whole warranty.
You can't just PASSIMG your way back from FRG83, if you have it - since there's no PASSIMG for FRG83 yet (at least I'm not aware of one, and looks like Google isn't either), and the system is designed not to flash older builds. Trying to use PASSIMG to return to older builds requires some heavy preparations (has to be rooted, then downgrading HBOOT and probably flashing initial system.img from an older build through adb in recovery, using flash_image). It's possible and not very hard to do, but most probably beyond "1-click-root"ers' skills. All the relevant info is in the Wiki, so if you want to attempt it - you can try.
Unrooting FRG83 (reflashing stock recovery from FRF91, removing su and Superuser.apk from root shell) might be easier.
Also, put attention that if the phone has SLCD screen - the official stock FRF91 won't work on it.
I actually was able to PASSIMG to FRG33 then OTA back to FRG83. which I thought was odd due to the fact that I was on a FRG83 based rom. Oh well, it's 100% back to stock now. So even though people say that a rooted/unlocked phone only voids your software warranty I don't have to worry about it. Yay for keeping a locked bootloader.
I flashed 33 and my phone is stock. I need paid apps plus this build is bugging out on me alot. Stuff freezes, its just a bad build. How do I undo this without rooting?
Pretty sure you have to root.
If its like FRF91. Then it wont let you downgrade because it sees FRF91 as an "old version."
Download ere27 as passimg.zip. place in your sdcard root. Boot into recovery. Restore. Let it do its work. Put frf91 into sd card. Boot into recovery and load from zip. Ta da. You are on Frf 91
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Or, if you want a shorter and more correct route:
Nexus One Wiki, "Restore", PASSIMG.ZIP method, use FRF91 complete stock image found in one of the threads in Q&A from the last day (or Google).
Don't use FRF91 update, since it's only an update - it's not a complete image.
whatever. Just use a passimg.zip to clean out all the crap. its basically the "do-over" method. Think etch-a-sketch flip and shake.
i tried passimg from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
it said failure because it was an older version. If i find that ere one will it let me do it? i dont mind going way back and working my way back to froyo, but i dont think i can passimg anything since its considered "older"
search the forum for how to downgrade your hboot- it exists just search for the thread
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
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http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
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Thank you. Looks like ill have to root for it which im sure ill find if i search how to root 33 so ill wait for a while to see if something else comes up but at least I know there's a way
There is no other way but to root.
Since you're erasing the system you're rooting anyway, why do you care?
The full guide is now in the Wiki, including reverting HBOOT for those that need it.
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There is no other way but to root.
Since you're erasing the system you're rooting anyway, why do you care?
The full guide is now in the Wiki, including reverting HBOOT for those that need it.
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i dont know, i did 1 click root a few times but every rom i tried- cyan, eno, modac, whatever were great but there was always some bug or something that was annoying enough that i just wanted stock instead. So i dont know how much i like the idea of permanent root, but theres probably a stock rom i can use so its not the end of the world. SDK/Terminal i did all that crap with my g1, personally i found it to be more of a hassle than it was worth. But not having protected apps is not going to cut it so ill cave soon im sure
Again, maybe this time it'll be understood:
There is no "permanent root". The only "permanent" thing is unlocking the bootloader, which you don't have to do - the guide doesn't require it. The system you root will be erased in the PASSIMG method and replaced with a completely stock system of your choice. So, what's exactly stopping you from rooting?
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Again, maybe this time it'll be understood:
There is no "permanent root". The only "permanent" thing is unlocking the bootloader, which you don't have to do - the guide doesn't require it. The system you root will be erased in the PASSIMG method and replaced with a completely stock system of your choice. So, what's exactly stopping you from rooting?
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the only way to go back from FRG33 is to unlock the bootloader at this stage, the PASSIMG method does not work
When you revert HBOOT, it should work fine. Just the same as it works with Korean FRF91 version, which also has a new HBOOT. People in the FRG33 thread don't know it?
Why people can't understand?At this moment,if you've flashed stock FRG33 rom,using PASSIMG method,you can't root anymore!The only method to roll back to FRF91 is to unlock your bootloader,which is permanent and can't be un-done!
Cheers
Did you see that?
http://androidforums.com/1533396-post14.html
Or is it the only report? (in that case, the guy probably didn't try to run root).
Anyway, being unable to root makes you unable to flash PASSIMG of anything with bootloader lower than 0.35 - but did anyone try PASSIMG with Korean FRF91? It has the same HBOOT as FRG33, so it shouldn't be reported "older".
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When you revert HBOOT, it should work fine. Just the same as it works with Korean FRF91 version, which also has a new HBOOT. People in the FRG33 thread don't know it?
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[HOW-TO] Revert HBOOT 0.35.0017 to 0.33.0012
I CAN'T RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER!!!
This only reverts your SPL/HBOOT back to 0.33.0012 after you've installed the Korean FRF91 files and ended up stuck with 0.35.0017 SPL.
Thanks to the guys in the Desire forums and help from the Nexus Q&A, I have reverted my phone to the original HBOOT so I can apply custom roms again.
First you need to root the Korean FRF91 that's on your phone using Paul's instructions for superboot FRF83.
If you are rooted already, skip this step.
http://android.modaco.com/content/go...the-nexus-one/
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How to use Superboot - Windows, Linux and OSX
- Download the Superboot zip file above and extract to a directory
- Put your device in bootloader mode - Turn off the phone then press and hold the trackball to enter the bootloader
- WINDOWS - double click 'install-superboot-windows.bat'
- MAC - Open a terminal window to the directory containing the files, and type 'chmod +x install-superboot-mac.sh' followed by './install-superboot-mac.sh'
- LINUX - Open a terminal window to the directory containing the files, and type 'chmod +x install-superboot-linux.sh' followed by './install-superboot-linux.sh'
Note: If you are using a retail Nexus One, you may need to unlock the bootloader first, as detailed here.
Ok, let's make some order:
1) PASSIMG can flash versions with the same or higher HBOOT version - to check: will the same version flash? I believe so.
The official FRF91 has HBOOT 0.33.0012, the Korean FRF91 has 0.35.0017, and I suppose the FRG33 also has 0.35.0017 - correct?
2) Rooting isn't possible on FRG33 yet. 1 report doesn't count.
So, looking at this:
Using PASSIMG with the Korean FRF91 (complete with HBOOT 0.35.0017) will work over FRG33, if the HBOOT is indeed the same version.
Korean FRF91 is rootable.
Rooting Korean FRF91 allows to downgrade HBOOT, which in order allows to use PASSIMG method to flash official FRF91 with older HBOOT.
So, did anyone try PASSIMG with Korean FRF91?
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Did you see that?
http://androidforums.com/1533396-post14.html
Or is it the only report? (in that case, the guy probably didn't try to run root).
Anyway, being unable to root makes you unable to flash PASSIMG of anything with bootloader lower than 0.35 - but did anyone try PASSIMG with Korean FRF91? It has the same HBOOT as FRG33, so it shouldn't be reported "older".
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Downloading and testing, thanks for the tip, will report back.
I have my HTC Vivid rooted and on HoliRaider v1.6. I really wanted to use the rom Rum Float Beta, which is ics. I tried to find the steps for updating to this but i get kinda confused... If anyone could help me that would be great!
Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?
To relock bootloader:
fastboot oem lock
To Unlock bootloader:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
The PH39IMG file needs to be on the root of your SD card. Boot into hboot and it will automatically find the the PH39IMG file and update. I hope this helps. Like you said it's almost exact same steps you did to root assuming you didn't use the supertool or one click method.
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The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?
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Fastboot OEM lock. This is done from the fastboot screen. This is covered in the superguide and mentioned several times throughout these forums.
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strose after putting the ruu on a stock vivid, which boot.img file are you going to look for and recovery img file? this is where i get a little confused?
strose09 said:
Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
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I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9
alright so after i get the two files that i need i just follow the instructions above starting with locking bootloader?
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I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9
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Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.
i've tip toed around with it. Back when i had my evo 4g. I'm pretty familiar with the commands and stuff. i think i got a pretty good idea with the superguide also. after the getting the img file on and cwm i'm decent at the whole flash thing. If i can just get past that point i think im good.
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Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.
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Yes keep the superguide thread open as well. It's a great resource to have while you are doing this. The steps are nearly the same just have to update the HBOOT first. Good luck! I look forward to seeing you post having a successful install.
So I just got my replacement vivid..still locked and everything..how do I update with the ruu?
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Connect phone to pc, open .exe and run it.
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Thank u got it going and thank god cuz now pg it seems has left the building...
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If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?
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If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?
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Here you go
Thank you very much. I'll look forward to ICS.