hi,
i had a very old and fast 6.1 rom with panels (i think it was charge'of's rom). i have about 14k sms and i don't want to delete them. i backed the sms up with pimbackup.
now i have the problem that all roms here with HTC Sense can't handle this amout of sms. after i restored them the x1 starts lagging like hell.
is there a rom out who can handle this? a good panel rom without htc sense e.g.?
greets
agreed. the latest wm6.5 rom that could barely handle 3000 of sms is valkyrie 28323. the stablest wm6.5 rom ever.
i got 3000 sms only, but it already giving me headache to simply wan to reply a sms.. gosh!
but it seems it has something to do with htc-sense... i tested so far energy rom, valkyrie, xperilo, xkan etc...
i noticed @ valkyrie who has htc-sense as default disabled that the speed is good (could be better but ok). after turned on htc-sense it was no longer possible to use the phone with this amount of sms...
There are a some ROMs available without Sense, you can try them.
EnergyROM Titanium
Christian's Clean ROM
Jerpelea's X2 ports
Lacko's Clean revolution
spikegotti UnOff Infinite of X1.5
thanks for help
energy was the best rom so far even with htc-sense (but it will extremly slow down too after importing the sms).
im restoring atm the sms @ energy cookie with 21904 but i don't have much hope it will be better there....
so titanium seems a good option but as you said in the description it lacks features (eg. no panels?).
ill try christians if this try fails again.
thx again for help
DreamDiver said:
thanks for help
energy was the best rom so far even with htc-sense (but it will extremly slow down too after importing the sms).
im restoring atm the sms @ energy cookie with 21904 but i don't have much hope it will be better there....
so titanium seems a good option but as you said in the description it lacks features (eg. no panels?).
ill try christians if this try fails again.
thx again for help
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In post 5 from the Energy thread you will find a link to a tutorial on how to install the PanelManager from R3A beta or X2. Panels will work without any problems on EnergyROM.
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
im running now energy cookie with 21904. the speed its quite ok so far.
but entering threaded view takes serveral seconds. but the main problem is - leaving (back button) the threaded view takes up to 1min
im getting crazy
ok its definitly related to htc sense. it was freezing all the time. after disabling htc-sense everything is fine...
dont bash the roms, check the htc hd2 forums for the solution, the problem lies with sense itself but someone happened to find a solution to load the sms faster than normal...
yes it also loads slow on the htc hd2 as well, so dont expect the x1 to perform any better
@spikegotti
you are right its not related to the rom. like i said its just related to htc-sense what is included in most of the new roms.
i had a look in the hd2 forum but i found only a solution to load the sms faster. but the problem is that as long as htc-sense is activated everything will slow down, freeze and lag. every tab takes time to load and could freeze for few seconds. to exit sms threaded view takes atm 2 mins.
after deactivating htc-sense everything goes back to normal. no lags, no freezes, entering and exiting threaded view takes just a sec.
so i think the only solution atm is to use a rom without htc-sense...
I have 7k sms and on with energy rom i dont face any probs with my xperia .. it rocks with HTC Sence on takes a bit time to load but cant be said un-useable ... i can operate the phone without any probs
[Flashed About A Month Ago !!]
i tested all of the top roms here. and in all roms it was the same.
as long htc-sence was activated the phone was slow and freezed all the time.
after deactivated htc-sense the speed was good and no freezes...
no problem before restoring the 9k sms with pimbackup in all roms....
no speed or freeze problems in all panel roms without htc-sense (except a freeze leaving a sms conversation with over 200sms in christians 5.419 but i heard this is a problem related to some wm 6.5 versions)
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Is it possible ? I really want to speed this baby up to decent speeds. Ive used the kaiser tweak and i still find it slow.
Worst of all my friends make fun of it for being so slow ;_;
please search before making another thread which has been asked before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328543&highlight=overclock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363889&highlight=overclock
Hi,
Have you tried a custom ROM? i use dutty's lite 6.1 rom, and it flyus, 10 times faster than the HTC Rom's, even switching from landscape to portrait etc, takes less than a second. (with HTC roms, it usually takes 3ish)
Scrolling through the windows directory, and opening programs is alot faster too.
Worth a bit of testing before you cook your CPU.
Tilt_8925 said:
Is it possible ? I really want to speed this baby up to decent speeds. Ive used the kaiser tweak and i still find it slow.
Worst of all my friends make fun of it for being so slow ;_;
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jockyw is right now working to see if this can be done, search kaiser rom dev for this
flashy said:
Hi,
Have you tried a custom ROM? i use dutty's lite 6.1 rom, and it flyus, 10 times faster than the HTC Rom's, even switching from landscape to portrait etc, takes less than a second. (with HTC roms, it usually takes 3ish)
Scrolling through the windows directory, and opening programs is alot faster too.
Worth a bit of testing before you cook your CPU.
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Will i need windows 6.1 for it ...?
Can you also please link me to the tweak , and also to WM6.1 if needed?
I currently have 6.0 , Thanks
Doesn't exist yet. Read the sticky in ROM development for more information. This thread is closed, very redundant.
Hi All..
Can you share which one do you prefer?
Touch-IT 5.05 RC2 (OR) Touch-IT 21202 WM6.5 RC1 ?
wat a good question u asked ther. for me, really really hard to decide.
wm6.5 got nice n smooth interface but cant get touch hd camera driver n all rhodium nice stuff.
wm6.1 v5.04 got all nice stuff n nice to cope with daily usage which mean more practical usage everyday.
in da end, i still choose wm6.1 v5.04 better la.. i feel like it got better ram management as it loads opera instantly from ram. more practical.
touch hd camera also provide better low light shooting. auto forus all da time also nicer.
besides ts.. u should make this thread as poll rather than ask like that.
I love Touch-IT v5...cant imagine me converting to the 6.5 rom...though I have never tried it.
Maybe I will if I have some spare time.
although 6.5 looks really nice, I'm gonna hold the update till the final version is released.
today, 5.04 works nicely, no problems at all after aplying the fixes found in the thread and very much better than the (really lite) stock rom-
Can't decide
I'm undecided... Its like I'm caught between two lovers... Personally I find the latest 6.5 ROM to be much better with RAM management, but like devalian said, the 6.1 ROM is much better for daily usage.
I was honestly expecting a lot more bugs in the 6.5 ROM but it actually worked exceptionally well. For those who haven't tried 6.5, I suggest you try it, those who haven't tried the latest 6.1, I suggest you try that also, either way, you can't loose.
lolz honestly mate i just got my phone tday and im on 4th rom ,and out of all those, and judging only on first impresions i like 6.5 i know there are bugs and stuff but nothing deal breaking ill keep the 6.5 for a while.
I am torn between my iPhone and Xperia X1. I want to switch my daily working phone from iPhone to X1 but the bugs in WM6.5 keeps me switches back to iPhone.
I am not a big fan of TouchFlow, the email envelop of the touchflow turned me off.
I prefer wm6.5. so far with wm6.5 RC1, the phone is fast (fast in scrolling, screan orientation..and others) and the battery can last longer (2 days).
However, I like the Opera browser in touch it 5.05 because it has a slider touch to change the zoom level and it has vibration feedback when clicking the link.
Until now, I have no idea why the opera browser in 5.05 different from others.
kluks said:
I am torn between my iPhone and Xperia X1. I want to switch my daily working phone from iPhone to X1 but the bugs in WM6.5 keeps me switches back to iPhone.
I am not a big fan of TouchFlow, the email envelop of the touchflow turned me off.
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give me 1 reason why you swith to iphone????
ive been using 6.5 for a while now and it seems realy stable to me
jibran said:
give me 1 reason why you swith to iphone????
ive been using 6.5 for a while now and it seems really stable to me
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1. The phone canvas is too dark and the touch keypad is too small I can't use it outdoors
2. When the phone is in lock mode any incoming phone call will make the phone not responding
3. battery life is short ( might be a bug in the software, I charged the phone to full before went to bed, in the morning I checked the battery it is still full so far so good, I then used the phone lightly just view emails and made a couple of short calls, bluetooth and wifi is off. During lunch hour I checked the battery again it was 50% already. with the stock rom I normally use the phone for 3-4 days under the same usage)
kluks said:
1. The phone canvas is too dark and the touch keypad is too small I can't use it outdoors
2. When the phone is in lock mode any incoming phone call will make the phone not responding
3. battery life is short ( might be a bug in the software, I charged the phone to full before went to bed, in the morning I checked the battery it is still full so far so good, I then used the phone lightly just view emails and made a couple of short calls, bluetooth and wifi is off. During lunch hour I checked the battery again it was 50% already. with the stock rom I normally use the phone for 3-4 days under the same usage)
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Then use the stockrom
In my opinion the WM6.5 Touch-it is far superior. im loving it at the moment
Im not a manila fan so i go for wm6.5 rom.
I find TF3D boring, not appealing and troublesome to add program 1 by 1.
Why? The flip clock is always there with [Call history and Calendar] which coulnt be changed. I prefer it to be something like CommManger or MSN or something else. 3days and I getting bored already. Moreover you can only change the background image for Home screen tab and not others. Although there's something floating around the forum which let you change every wallpaper of the tab, i find it troublesome (yes im lazy) and not attractive. Its still the same ol tab just with different background. *Manila fans will hate me for sure
So i go for WM6.5 with something new - (Titanium) home screen & menu. Adding a weather & Windows Live tab to home screen, changed the honeycomb column, install some basic need program and my device is ready for use.
Some screenshot
dancemacabre said:
Im not a manila fan so i go for wm6.5 rom.
I find TF3D boring, not appealing and troublesome to add program 1 by 1.
Why? The flip clock is always there with [Call history and Calendar] which coulnt be changed. I prefer it to be something like CommManger or MSN or something else. 3days and I getting bored already. Moreover you can only change the background image for Home screen tab and not others. Although there's something floating around the forum which let you change every wallpaper of the tab, i find it troublesome (yes im lazy) and not attractive. Its still the same ol tab just with different background. *Manila fans will hate me for sure
So i go for WM6.5 with something new - (Titanium) home screen & menu. Adding a weather & Windows Live tab to home screen, changed the honeycomb column, install some basic need program and my device is ready for use.
Some screenshot
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So you're saying it could actually function for everyday use? I was under the impression the ROM was more or less ment as a preview for 6.5. I didn't realise there were versions of winmo 6.5 floating around which could actually be used
Does stuff like ms exchange, mail syncing, work on winmo 6.5? Do apps made for winmo 6.1 work on 6.5 aswell?
Magger said:
So you're saying it could actually function for everyday use? I was under the impression the ROM was more or less ment as a preview for 6.5. I didn't realise there were versions of winmo 6.5 floating around which could actually be used
Does stuff like ms exchange, mail syncing, work on winmo 6.5? Do apps made for winmo 6.1 work on 6.5 aswell?
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Yes, I've been using this ROM for everyday use since it came out (only annoying thing is answering the phone when it's on keylock)
MS Exchange works (mail, calender, contacts)
Most apps work fine, some show minor glitches (in PIM BackUp it's impossible to deselect messagefolders for backup)
Lokatho said:
Yes, I've been using this ROM for everyday use since it came out (only annoying thing is answering the phone when it's on keylock)
MS Exchange works (mail, calender, contacts)
Most apps work fine, some show minor glitches (in PIM BackUp it's impossible to deselect messagefolders for backup)
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The phone thing is actually a big downfall for me, by keylock do you mean tabbing the upper button or keeping the lock key pressed?
Magger said:
The phone thing is actually a big downfall for me, by keylock do you mean tabbing the upper button or keeping the lock key pressed?
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I think he meant the keylock by software where you have to slide to unlock. I do think the keylock(slider) not too perfect at the moment.... and I don't use it.
Hello,
I have a HTC S730.
Which Rom should I use to upgrade ?
- WM6.1 English Build 20757
- NEW ROM FOR s730er(20279)
- Working WM 6.1 - UPDATE! 13/04/2008
- NEW 20757 ROM for WINGS
Thank you for your help.
Frem
I have the same question, ...but is it even worth updating it, i saw a video on youtube comparing wm6 to wm6.1 and 6.1 seems real slow aside from startup.......if thats the case, i dont mind slow boot up, but prefer fast loading for applications....i most commonly use audio manager, sms, and acrobat reader.........only thing that has me interested is the threaded messaging
it really is good to upgrade to 6.1.
because you actually get copy-paste function, nicer WM homescreen(if you don't like HTC Live Home, which is default), ofcourse threaded messaging, overall I have noticed, that I have more free RAM and the device responds faster.
and i used this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447777
been second day on it and still no problems.
Hope it helps
is working realy gud
Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much
The HTC Leo device has not even been released. The Leo Manilla is a work in progress... It's Beta quality. The Leo device uses a 1GHz CPU much faster than the 528MHz CPU in the X1. We should be thankful that the cooks make it usable even at all.
I'm sure as Leo Manilla matures, it will become faster and more responsive. Until then, you should not really use it if you cannot put up with the lags.
Many of the Leo Manilla features have been implimented in the latest 2.1 Manilla. Soooo, just use one of the cooked Roms with the latest 2.1.1919 Manilla.
If the Leo Manilla is too unusable for you, then jsut don't use it.
If you want to see how far Leo ROM development has come I recommend Agent_47's Valkyrie 3.8.53 Leo ROM. Fast, stable, decent battery usage. Some things have a little lag, but definitely usable and not enough to be irritating.
It is the first Leo ROM I have tried that I would consider using every day.
I would not call them unusable.
IT really depends what you do with your phone, how many applications you run simultaneously.
For me it is very frequent to connect via bluetooth to my car system, listen to muisc while using GPS sat nav, while keeping PUSH email active in background, RSS reader and weather update.
Leo ROMS tend to get extremely laggy in this kind scenario and if I Receive a call everything goes to hell.
However, if you are not a power user, Leo can be fine.
exxi said:
Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much
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never say never
try by Agent Valkyrie_v3.9.60!
and be surprised
forget about the other LEO ROMs like Touch-IT / Rota / ...etc ..
when it comes to LEO, Valkyrie is your friend
it is very stable / usable / even fast !!
A ROM without Landscape is useless when using the Hardware-keyboard... That makes LEO useless!
I usually HATE the newer ones, as PCTech4U and Smaberg/mr rusch's TouchX roms are better BUT i must say Christian's Rom and X1Owner's X10 rom's are good.
I am currently using X10's rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564298
It's VERY fast, got all the eye candy you could want! Try that. I was just doing my weekly backup and flash a new rom to try, but i've stuck with X1Ov1.2 LEO WM6.5.1 23060 MANILA2.5.1919.2828 R3A ENG (WWE) [ONLINE] as i've been impressed.
IF only that came without Manilla 2.5 as I dont mind the default windows 6.5 style.
add a poll the results may surprise you
i tested a few 6.5 leo roms and i really hate most of them. as you said, they are not nearly as responsive or stable as 6.1
i dont think that we will ever get fast, stable and smooth leo based rom even after the final release of leo. its just made for a device that has much much better specs than our x1 (hd2 has 448MB memory with 1GHZ ).
I agree, X10 seems to be the best for now.
First I wanna thank all the ROM devs around here for their work and time spend to bring us all the new user interfaces to our X1´s. After working for years in developing a linux system I think I know what time and effort you put into this development.
I wanna share how I found MY perfect solution for a ROM which had to fulfill my needs which are:
- fully german localized, because I am a german Kraut
- no major bugs, if possible also no minor bugs
- eye candy
- smooth operation
- good battery performance
- Sense UI 2.1 with weather clock
You have to know I am a "power user", which means I am using the phone for managing my mails (Profimail), surfing the web, chatting, watching Youtube vids, doing phone calls (even that!), playing games, listen to web radio and also FM radio and much more.
After flashing a huge amount of the available ROMs, tweaking them and finally being disappointed after using them for a few days because of the bugs here and there, this is what is working for me for a handful of days now and as far as I can tell, this will be a keeper on my phone:
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I flashed Itjes Touch It v3 (german edition) which can be found here: KLICK ME!
This ROM at least was fully german, smooth, with a good RAM usage and a good default software setup. Also it doesnt drain the battery as much as the Manila 2.5 ROMs do.
But this ROM disappointed me in two things, which now are solved for me:
Bug:
There was a (known) problem with the hardware keyboard when trying to type formula data inside Opera browser.
Solution:
Installing Opera 9.7 solved the issue. Cab can be found here: http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
Bug:
In the german rom the software dialer pad was misaligned and unusable, see this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4832499&postcount=39
Solution:
As I wrote above, I also was looking for eyecandy on my Xperia. I did experiment with various themes and finally settled on the Dusk theme.
Installing the Dusk (Rhodium) dialer fixed the dialer issue!
The complete Dusk theme for Sense 2.1 can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570322
Addons (the dialer!) can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524797
For completion I added S2U2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527523) with dusk theme (http://s2u2.lifestylepics.de/?page=b&e_id=63).
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For me this combination seems a perfect solution, maybe some of my german mates here can benefit from my experience.
Again a big THANK YOU! to the ROM devs, in this case especially to Itje!
Have fun,
OldNick
Thank you for sharing these informations with us and especially thank you, those who made these nice Rom's and Cab's.
I flashed many Rom's and jumped from one to the other and there are so many, that I have lost the overview. What I miss, is a list with ratings of the Rom's and some kind of clearly laid out list of critique.
But to cut a long story short, great Rom, great Cabs, great advice.
greez
Great solution, although the original dailer would be better than the dusk dialer.
and unfortunately still the mms issue here which I haven't been able to solve...
I added the X2 dialer. Looks rather precious.
dialer from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587176
DonGeilo said:
Great solution, although the original dailer would be better than the dusk dialer.
and unfortunately still the mms issue here which I haven't been able to solve...
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Whats wrong with the Dusk dialer? I like how it integrates in the rest of the dusk-themed system. The original dialer would look a bit strange... At least for my taste.
MMS: Cannot help here, I dont use MMS.
Have fun,
OldNick
questions?
Can you tell me some more about the ram-usage?
How much ram is available after some time of normal usage?
On my device its around 50-60% after use of some apps and stays there. Beside running different apps I also have a handful of appointments with reminders active each day and I am using the phone as router for my notebook too. I didnt face any RAM problems up to now. Of course a small bit of the RAM is needed by the dusk theme, so you wont be able to come down to 40-45%.
Great
That sounds great ! I will give it a try
Thank you for sharing your experiences with this rom.
My last WM6.5 was a catastrophy and I was just on my way back to the original wm6.1 rom.
Greetz
Marc
Good luck!
Good luck and tell us your experience with this combination!
Thanks man, finally a WM6.5 which works. Every other german RON I tried, was deleted just a few hours later. Everytime switchd back to cmex 0.8 WM6.1.
Nice solution, looks pretty neat, but has issues - at least for me. Maybe you can help?
For one, the Weather tab just won't update - it did once, 4 days ago, but never since. Hitting the refresh button makes that little globe icon rotate for a few seconds, then nothing. Any suggestions?
Also, Google Maps doesn't seem to pick up any satellites - maybe it doesn't interface with GPS properly, maybe GPS just doesn't see any satellites (weather has been rather crappy these days, so I'm rather reluctant to go out). QuickGPS won't update either. I'm getting slightly frustrated here...
No problems at all on my phone. Everything works properly. Do you have a naked one installed or do you have other apps installed as well?
I followed the suggestions in the original post to get the entire look (very neat), only additional piece of software I installed was Mobipocket Reader.
I really have no idea what the problem is here... Might have to reset and see what that changes.
looks very interesting to me. I always looked for max speed and eyecandy. I also like wm6.5 wich is much more finger friendly. Probably will check this one out. how is battery performance?? always had problams with my X1 and its battery. It sometimes only last for one or two days because of heave performance usage in the background. the real x-button never worked for me :-(
Ok, so I just installed this ROM and also modified it the same way you did. At the beginning typing with the virtual keyboard went fine. But suddenly without any know reason the virtual keyboard changed into "nubmer input" so just signs and numbers. And the key to switch back to qwertz is missing. it should be next to # but there is only a black button. Any suggestions?
Would really appreciate it, if I don't have to do a hard reset or switch to another ROM.
The same problem I've got also.
I already made some posts like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5256704&postcount=972 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606499 but no solution yet. Thinking about changing to another german ROM like XKan's Topaz v1.07 or YYYYY's H.V4.1
Which Radio version you use?!
tried what you said... and its very nice thx but just use the x2 dialer instead and dont use the dusk theme :] and opera 10 beta which is awesome
I found a way to switch back to "normal keyboard" but not to disable number keypad at all. You have to search for persons in your contact menu. Maybe another textfield works also.
I'm using Softwareversion R3AA010
I don't know why, but my battery decreses really fast since yesterday. I charged it using notebook connection. Before I installed this ROM I always had problems with killing Active Sync. I disconnected from the notebook, Active Sync closed but after some time started again and ran in background. How longs does your battery last?
When I change the settings for the softkeys in settings/personal,
it always resets it to default when restarting the device,
any fix for that?