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Well in the last days I've been having problems uploading things from my sdcard from apps, I thought it was an a2sd issue so I removed my ext3 partition from my sdcard by entering parted and use rm 2, so when I rebooted it showed my previous home screen with the same apps and it said that app wasn't installed on phone so I check my internal storage and it said 11 mb of storage left and that didn't make any sense so then I wiped and formatted my sdcard and rebooted and it said 20 mb left so I enter my downloads from market and see that it says my apps are installed but they don't show on my app tray so I'm guessing that apps are not there but the phone is reading it wrong. So I wiped installed CM 3.9.7 again and now I can't install apps from market or anywhere else
shouldn't this be in the Q&A?
I saw your signature and your running ROM: Cyanogen's MOD (3.9.7)...
Cyanogen warned you NOT TO INSTALL Apps2sd!
Format your sdcard ext partion and then wipe and install Cyanogen's MOD...
Everything will go back to normal
SportsFan26 said:
I saw your signature and your running ROM: Cyanogen's MOD (3.9.7)...
Cyanogen warned you NOT TO INSTALL Apps2sd!
Format your sdcard ext partion and then wipe and install Cyanogen's MOD...
Everything will go back to normal
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No I didn't use any scripts to activata apps2sd because its automatic, what I'm trying to do is reverse apps2sd so I can install apps on my phone instead of my sdcard I already removed my ext 3 partition
do you have a card reader?
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do you have a card reader?
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Yes I do have a card reader
If you are running Cyanogen's mod, then I don't believe you'll be able to have your apps on your phone unless you do NOT have an ext 2/3 partition. If your SD card is only Fat32, then the mod won't have any place to move the apps and will leave it on your phone.
Atleast that's how I understood it, if someone who actually knows what they are talking about contradicts me, go with them.
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If you are running Cyanogen's mod, then I don't believe you'll be able to have your apps on your phone unless you do NOT have an ext 2/3 partition. If your SD card is only Fat32, then the mod won't have any place to move the apps and will leave it on your phone.
Atleast that's how I understood it, if someone who actually knows what they are talking about contradicts me, go with them.
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Yeah that's how it is, I had ext3 partition before but I removed it because I was having malfunctions with a lot of different apps so I thought removing the partition would do it but no now I can't install apps.
I want to undo apps2sd I don't want it anymore, I want apps installed on my phone
I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
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I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
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ok i'll try doing that, tell you if it works later on
I would also clean out dalvik-cache
rm -r /data/dalvik-cache
I think that's where part of your problem is, don't quote me on that though
In my personal opinion, it's good to rebuild your dalvik-cache everynow and then just to make sure you don't have any junk in there. I suspect that you may have number of things in there since you did not uninstall apps but rather nuked the partition. Who knows... do it, it may help
Good luck
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I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
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you are definitely the man haha it worked, i can install apps but have 55mbs of free space is that ok?
After having apps working fine on my phone for a while now... a lot of the apps on my g1, once started, make me force close them.. apps include: anything that uses the accelerometer [except iliter?], lock 2.0, ringers extended.. and a bunch of other ones. I dont think the apps are corrupt considering that they have worked previousally and just started not working. Could the ext2 partition on my sd be full? I set the partition to 700mb and i only have about 20 apps or less.
Maybe somebody could advise on what this might be.. thanks!
Also, every time i turn my phone on i get process com.htc.calender stopped unexpectedly and asks a force close. it asks me to f.close it like 3 times when i first turn on the phone. YES I DID WIPE BEFORE FLASHING THIS ROM. Is there a way to just get rid of this process entirely? becuase after i force close if i go to calander in the menu it works.
what rom are you currently using? what was the rom you used before flashing to your current rom? did you try deleting your dalvik-cache? what about running fix_permissions?
I know when I went from a hero rom to cupcake, I had those same issues so if that is the same problem than you are gonna have to format your ext partion and reload your files, I know if you search the forums though there is a command that you enter in the terminal to just delete the files doing it to you
if you went from a hero rom to a cupcake rom then you need to go into the recovery console and type
Code:
mount /system
rm /system/sd/app_s/*
rm /system/sd/dalvik-cache/*
if that still does not fix it then you will need to just use
Code:
mount /system
rm /system/sd/*
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what rom are you currently using? what was the rom you used before flashing to your current rom? did you try deleting your dalvik-cache? what about running fix_permissions?
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Running Cyan 4.02 + 1.4 [before this was running JACHero] and no i didnt delete my dalvik-cache??? <--whats that?
It's where your system wipes anything, just type in the codes that were posted and you will be alright, hero leaves files on your ext partion that need to be removed because they do not work with the non hero framework, the code that was post will remove those files, you must type them in the recovery console and not terminal emu
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It's where your system wipes anything, just type in the codes that were posted and you will be alright, hero leaves files on your ext partion that need to be removed because they do not work with the non hero framework, the code that was post will remove those files, you must type them in the recovery console and not terminal emu
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Will give that a try! thx.
Is that going to delete any of my apps?
Also-- is there a way to confirm that my apps are being automatically installed on my SD?
It will not delete any of your apps just the left over hero junk. To conform just go into manage apps under settings and check the space that is free internal and see how much is used of your ext
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It will not delete any of your apps just the left over hero junk. To conform just go into manage apps under settings and check the space that is free internal and see how much is used of your ext
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went into manage apps in settings... how do i check the space used by the ext? Menu option only include sort & filter
ALSO i know i sound exteremly noobie.. but..
mount /system
rm /system/sd/app_s/*
rm /system/sd/dalvik-cache/*
Do i replace the *'s with something else, or am i to actually type "*"
Whoops I meant sdcard and storage, sorry bout that I have been up since 5 yesterday and is now 3 in the afternoon so on that note, nighty night. Good luck
ONe more ?
Everytime i type rm /system/sd/app_s/* it tells me cannot remove - no such file or directory.
says the same thing with the rm davvik-cahce thing.
and yes i am in console in recovery.
Try without the *.
Than it's quite possible that you might have to format your sd card, backup your files using I think using app manager and backup for root users, transfer your files onto your computer and format, be a real good time to set yourself up with a nice 96mb swap file. Don't feel bad I plan to reformat mine tomorrow just to get all the old crap off just to have a clean slate
Thank you david I must be tired I didn't notice when he asked about the * and I also said the dalvik cache wipes to your system instead of writes, just noticed that after I just reread my post
CM7 can make you install apps on the sd card, how does it differ from app2sd or app2ext? i have been trying to decide if i should partition my new sd card or its not necessary. There must be an advantage to have app2ext right?
Thank you.
CM7 basically allows you to move all applications using Froyo's app2sd mode. Even ones that have disabled it (like live wallpapers and widgets as those won't work when installed that way).
app2sdext works differently as it will install apps directly to an ext partition on your sdcard (that you manually have to set up). This functionality is NOT build into CyanogenMod, but is easily added with a number of different apps/scripts. This will give you a lot more free space on your phone, and all apps can be installed there regardless of whether they have widgets or have services running. Most app2sdext options will also give you the option of moving the dalvik cache to the sdcard which will save you a substantial amount of space on your internal memory.
Basically, if you want a lot of memory intensive apps, your only decent option with a Nexus One is an app2sdext solution. (I have it with a 1GB partition, and I will soon either need to resize it or delete apps... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
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CM7 basically allows you to move all applications using Froyo's app2sd mode. Even ones that have disabled it (like live wallpapers and widgets as those won't work when installed that way).
app2sdext works differently as it will install apps directly to an ext partition on your sdcard (that you manually have to set up). This functionality is NOT build into CyanogenMod, but is easily added with a number of different apps/scripts. This will give you a lot more free space on your phone, and all apps can be installed there regardless of whether they have widgets or have services running. Most app2sdext options will also give you the option of moving the dalvik cache to the sdcard which will save you a substantial amount of space on your internal memory.
Basically, if you want a lot of memory intensive apps, your only decent option with a Nexus One is an app2sdext solution. (I have it with a 1GB partition, and I will soon either need to resize it or delete apps... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
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why didnt i think of that? thank you for your reply... now i should decide whether to do it now or wait till i have reached maybe about a hundred apps. by the way does it have any effect on the speed of the phone if you do that?
I am on cm7 and decided to put cache apps on sd card using ta utility is there any other new apps like that? ta
Can you do this with rooted stock?
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why didnt i think of that? thank you for your reply... now i should decide whether to do it now or wait till i have reached maybe about a hundred apps. by the way does it have any effect on the speed of the phone if you do that?
I am on cm7 and decided to put cache apps on sd card using ta utility is there any other new apps like that? ta
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I have a class 4 32GB card, and I didn't notice any appreciable difference in speed. I have moved my apps and dalvik cache to the sdcard using DarkTremor's a2sd. I currently have 260 apps installed on my phone, and that is pushing the internal phone space and the 1GB partition I set up for ext. I am about to bug danger-rat for his instructions on how he resized his internal partitions to give the data residing on the phone more space (I will basically shrink the cache partition and I am looking at resizing my ext partition to 1.5GB or 2GB.
I couldn't live without this anymore. I don't know how I went so long without it. It is so nice to just browse the online market and click install on countless apps without worrying about your space.
If you want to try and move the app data (resides in /data/data) to the sdcard, I have heard that it is recommended to have a class 10 card to keep up with speed requirements. I am not sure how many apps support that.
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I believe you can. You would have to have a custom recovery. The main thing I am not sure is if it will mount the ext partition. If you have a custom recovery, do a nandroid backup (just in case it doesn't work), flash the zip for DarkTremor, and reboot the phone (the first boot will take longer).
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Can you do this with rooted stock?
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I have a class 4 32GB card, and I didn't notice any appreciable difference in speed. I have moved my apps and dalvik cache to the sdcard using DarkTremor's a2sd. I currently have 260 apps installed on my phone, and that is pushing the internal phone space and the 1GB partition I set up for ext. I am about to bug danger-rat for his instructions on how he resized his internal partitions to give the data residing on the phone more space (I will basically shrink the cache partition and I am looking at resizing my ext partition to 1.5GB or 2GB.
I couldn't live without this anymore. I don't know how I went so long without it. It is so nice to just browse the online market and click install on countless apps without worrying about your space.
If you want to try and move the app data (resides in /data/data) to the sdcard, I have heard that it is recommended to have a class 10 card to keep up with speed requirements. I am not sure how many apps support that.
I believe you can. You would have to have a custom recovery. The main thing I am not sure is if it will mount the ext partition. If you have a custom recovery, do a nandroid backup (just in case it doesn't work), flash the zip for DarkTremor, and reboot the phone (the first boot will take longer).
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thanks for the reply i think i read on darktremors post class 4 will do for the data2sd. I have class 4 16GB sd card would 1GB good for the ext? ty
It really depends on how much you think you will be installing. I did a 1GB partition on mine, but now that I install most of the Amazon free daily apps, that space is dwindling quickly. I have programs that will resize the partition for me, but most will have to wipe the card and partition it manually. I do have the install location set to automatic, so it allows developers to specify whether they want it in the "internal" (really it is on the sdext partition, but to the phone it is internal) or external using the froyo method. The Angry Bird apps all default to install on the sdcard, so my installed app base is even larger than 1GB.
bassmadrigal said:
... adding app2sdext was the second best thing I ever did to my phone behind installing CyanogenMod on it.)
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I second this
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
is it true that cwm sets the partition to ext3 by default? unlike in ra recovery where you still need to convert it? ta
I have heard that it creates it in ext3, but right now, DTa2sd is showing that it is a ext2 partition. I can't figure out how to find out for sure while the card is in the phone. Either way, it is getting mounted as an ext2 partition.
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I thought CWM will create ext3 by default? Your steps are ok, np.
Anyway when u read the ext partition type in android, most likely u will see ext2 if u are using official DT script cuz of the auto syntax it uses.
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then it maybe so, this was posted on the darktremor thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14134665#post14134665
Well, whether or not it is formatted as an ext3 partition, Android is still mounting mine as an ext2 partition.
Code:
mount | grep ext
NOTE: the "|" is called a pipe. On the keyboard it is the shift option on the backslash key "\". I don't know exactly where it is on the stock keyboard, but on swype it is located under the "D" key when the keyboard has the shift key pressed and you access it by longpressing.
To get your sdcard to ext3, you just need to turn on journaling. You can do this through adb while in the recovery (because you need the partition unmounted to do this).
Code:
adb reboot recovery
adb shell
mount system
e2fsk /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
tune2fs -j /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
reboot
Supposedly Android should auto-mount this as ext3 on boot (which you can check with the first command). At that point, I don't think it will matter what a2sd shows. As the writing of the journal (the big thing with ext3, since it helps minimize write errors on a bad shutdown) is done at the OS level, not the a2sd level.
Hi there,
So my N1 is rooted and has SuperOSR rom installed. The native app2sd that comes with the rom failed to work, so I disabled it and went back to the method I was using on CM7, Link2sd. I need a method to move apps/cache/lib files to sd-ext, as the tiny internal storage on the N1 is insufficient to hold even a 10th of the apps (and their data) that I have installed. And Link2sd has, at least in the past, been the perfect option to do so.
At first, all seemed well after installing and setting up Link2sd. Mount scripts were created with no problems, apps/cache/lib files all moved over to sd-ext without a hitch. Everything was going really well. Until I rebooted. Then, all hell broke loose.
The problem is this - for some reason, the second partition (sd-ext) is not being mounted during boot time. I'm not sure why, as this is exactly what the Link2sd mount scripts are supposed to accomplish. A Link2sd "mount warning" notice confirmed this problem, saying that "since 2nd partition was not mounted during boot time, linked apps will be invisible to the system until quick reboot". Indeed, every app that I had linked was not visible to the system, and most widgets on my homescreen showed only the message "problem displaying widget".
Luckily, a way to temporarily fix this is by simply quick-rebooting the rom. This will get the linked apps to show up again. But the problem is, widgets are still dead, input method gets reset (goes back from Swiftkey to native Android keyboard), and SMS gets reset back to the standard android SMS app. Of course, all of this can be changed back, but it takes time and effort to load each individual widget and restore each individual input/sms setting. It's really not practical every time you have to reboot your phone that you have to:
1. Quick-reboot the rom
2. Change input method back to Swiftkey
3. Manually restore every widget on your home screens
4. Change sms app back to Go sms.
So, my question is, how do I avoid having to do all this? I've already tried the "re-create mount scripts" option on Link2sd, but it doesn't matter. Still have the same errors upon rebooting phone every time. I'm pretty sure this means that the Link2sd mount scripts are either not being created correctly, or are being deleted every time the phone reboots. How do I fix this? Trying to get in contact with the developer of the app (bakpinar) has proven unsuccessful.
Does anyone know of any other scripts that I can flash/install that will successfully and consistently mount the 2nd partition (sd-ext) during boot time? I'm fairly certain that this is all I need, as everything else with Link2sd has been working correctly. Thanks in advance for any advice!
Ok, so since I haven't gotten any responses on this, I'm going to attempt two methods that i THINK might remedy this issue. The first one is this:
Method 1:
1. Full wipe and reinstall of SuperOSR rom
2. Format sd-ext to ext3 filesystem (found out that rom's native app2sd program wouldn't work due to my sd-ext partition being FAT32)
3. Enable rom's native apps2sd option upon booting.
4. Reboot
5. Install Link2sd from market, enable dex/lib file linking ONLY (native apps2sd program only moves app files, not dex or lib). Going to be interesting to see what link2sd says about the mounting scripts...
6. Reboot, collect results.
The 2nd method I'm going to try is this.
1. Full wipe and reinstall of SuperOSR rom.
2. Flash DTAPPS
3. Boot into ROM
4. Download and install test applications
5. Collect results
I'm not sure if either of these methods will work, however I know the 2nd method worked for CM. I will update a bit later as to which method (if any) fixed the issue. Sorry for the double post.
I commented to the ROM cook nelo360 a while back that there are some strange sd-ext mounting issues. If you look at the dmesg as it boots, it does post some strange error messages. Essentially, ext3 mounts as ext2, and ext4 mounts as ext3. Despite it not mounting as the proper format type, it still works.
Since the ROM is pulled off of AOSP, as CM is too, sort of, much of the same apps2sd apps probably work decently well.
Definitely need an ext3 or ext4 partition. As I'm understanding your post, that did not happen initially, and is crucial to many apps2ext to work, including the built-in one.
Really? Ext4 as 3 and ext3 as 2? Well that would explain why Link2sd was having issues. Hmm.
What I ended up doing was fully wiping the phone, flashing the rom, and then immediately afterwards flashing DTAPPS. Using the GUI interface found on the market, I moved apps to sd-ext and cache to sd-ext as well. The result has been mixed. While there was noticeably more space initially to install apps (something like 190mb internal), that space has declined at almost as fast a rate as when I had no apps2ext of any sort installed at all. This makes me think that while DTAPPS successfully moved some of the initially installed apps over to the sd-ext, it hasn't been moving any new ones i've installed or their cache files. I tried re-moving apps/cache with the gui interface and by using the old-fashioned terminal emulator method, but had no success. Still looking at about 100mb free space on internal. Considering that I only have about 1/4 of the apps installed that I usually have installed on my phone at any given time (I use A LOT of apps), it's become apparent that soon I am going to run out of space again.
As I can't find any method to fix this, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call it quits with this ROM and try something else. Which is a real shame, because stability-wise this ROM beats Cyanogenmod and other ROMS I've tried hands down, while not sacrificing many features. I guess for a user who doesn't use a lot of apps or need a lot of space for them, this ROM would be ideal. Unfortunately, I'm not that type of user.
One problem I've found is that with any automatic apps2sd/ext system is the control of what is actually on the SD vs. internal memory is hard to work out.
With the built in apps2sd, which you seem to have trouble with, not every app was transferred to ext. I found that with the built in system, my internal memory kept dropping until it hit 25 mb or so. However, it never really dropped below that. Everything I kept installing probably went to the ext partition. I installed a lot of apps, and it wasn't an issue. (But you're right, it may not be as many as you want).
I didn't have a great way to check this though. Root explorer showed both the data/apps/ folder and the sdcard/ext folder linked together, so it just listed everything together. I'd have loved a way to actually manually transfer whatever apps were on internal memory to ext, but never found an easy way to do so, or even to confirm what was in which directory.
So even though it looks like the internal memory is steadily and quickly dropping, if you continue to install, and have the two directories appropriately linked (sorry, I don't know what the difference between all the different kinds of scripting apps2sd are), I don't think you'll run out of space as quickly as you think you will.
Hi,
I have 7.2.4.c kabaldan milestone rom.
With sd card with 3 partitions : fat32/ext3 1gb / swap.
Since I can't move my app to the ext with basic app2sd kind of app, I tried S2E.
Well, with the option "intall app to INTERNAL", I guess that s2e were intalled on the ext partition... I hit someting and reboot the phone.
Now, I have lost all my apps, I looks like the stock clean rom AND I can't install any applications, even if I change automatic/internal/external options.
So I don't have access to the ext partition.
Is there a way to get my ext back without a wipe?
(I do have a complete backup, but its a couple of weeks old... my bad )
Thanks
You don't need any additional app to use the ext partition.
All of kabaldan's ROMs automatically detect and use it if it's there.
I don't know how to recover your apps, but I guess any attempt will end up dirty.
Restore your old backup and don't forget to make one everytime you try something fancy
Eiertschik said:
You don't need any additional app to use the ext partition.
All of kabaldan's ROMs automatically detect and use it if it's there.
I don't know how to recover your apps, but I guess any attempt will end up dirty.
Restore your old backup and don't forget to make one everytime you try something fancy
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haha, yeah I know, its my gf phone, she doesnt keep important stuff, its not a big deal.
With my phone don't worry, I do backups everytime .
You say that its automatic , but I dont understand why after a while I still have the "no more sapce available ". ext is around 200 mb of 1gb full...
Low space warning usualy means your /data is full, not /sd-ext. Try lib2ext.
btw, I do not know how to recover, I have no clue what s2e did to your data.
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Low space warning usualy means your /data is full, not /sd-ext. Try lib2ext.
btw, I do not know how to recover, I have no clue what s2e did to your data.
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Yes, I understand, the 133mb is full, but all my app should install on the ext anyway?
I'm not the only one, but I still dont understand why I cant access to my apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507743
oVeRdOsE. said:
Yes, I understand, the 133mb is full, but all my app should install on the ext anyway?
I'm not the only one, but I still dont understand why I cant access to my apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507743
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The script that moves all user apps to ext partition can be seen here
You can't access them because there is probably some confilct between s2e and the inbuilt 07app2ext script that moves all your apps to sd-ext automatically. That is, it moves the apk part of application, there are some parts, like libraries, databases, etc., that remain in /data/data. And it is stuff in /data/data/ that is filling the space so the OS is complaining. Hence the recomendation to try to utilize lib2ext.
The simplest and probably the safest way to get back to track is to start from scratch. As mentioned, I have no clue what s2e did to your files and where it might have moved it. It might be lost, maybe it is on sd-ext but inaccessible because of messed up permissions, perhaps on sdcard somewhere... IDK.
Point beeing - third party apps and/or scripts are usually incompatible with inbuilt 07app2ext script that provides same/similar functionality.
oVeRdOsE. said:
Yes, I understand, the 133mb is full, but all my app should install on the ext anyway?
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The apps are installed to ext, but there is more to an app than just the .apk file.
There's dalvik cache, ordinary cache and other additional data
Those usually aren't moved to ext.
If you're running out of space despite having an ext partition enter the following into Terminal Emulator and reboot:
Code:
lib2ext 1
mrvek said:
The script that moves all user apps to ext partition can be seen here
You can't access them because there is probably some confilct between s2e and the inbuilt 07app2ext script that moves all your apps to sd-ext automatically. That is, it moves the apk part of application, there are some parts, like libraries, databases, etc., that remain in /data/data. And it is stuff in /data/data/ that is filling the space so the OS is complaining. Hence the recomendation to try to utilize lib2ext.
The simplest and probably the safest way to get back to track is to start from scratch. As mentioned, I have no clue what s2e did to your files and where it might have moved it. It might be lost, maybe it is on sd-ext but inaccessible because of messed up permissions, perhaps on sdcard somewhere... IDK.
Point beeing - third party apps and/or scripts are usually incompatible with inbuilt 07app2ext script that provides same/similar functionality.
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That's make sense. I read some post found on google, and mostlikely, that's what they said.
I did a factory reset, and all my apps are back, but the save data. I'll put it back manualy from my nand backup.
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The apps are installed to ext, but there is more to an app than just the .apk file.
There's dalvik cache, ordinary cache and other additional data
Those usually aren't moved to ext.
If you're running out of space despite having an ext partition enter the following into Terminal Emulator and reboot:
Code:
lib2ext 1
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Thanks, I wish I can understand everything on andoird programming... I saw only the basic programing at shcool.