HTC Legend to Google Nexus One - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey..!
i got the HTC Legend and i like it pretty good..
but i am thinking about moving to Google Nexus One
what do you guys think ? should i stay or move ?

To sum it up in a quick and easy nutshell:
Nexus One > Legend
...for every reason you can think of with the exception of the solid aluminum body. (And maybe speaker volume, but I can't atest to that as I haven't used a Legend, merely going off of hardware specs and Google support).
Plus, you are in the Nexus One thread, so 99% of people will agree anyway.

Get the N1, its like night and day.

The legend is a "Style"-phone. The Desire is a "High performance"-phone, and the Nexus is a developer and geek-friendly Desire.
Personally I went with the Nexus One, despite great effort being required (Desire, and not Nexus is available in my country) and would do so again.
Main differences that you might consider:
Nexus and Desire both have a more powerful processor than the Legend.
Nexus features plain Android (unless you root). If you really, really like Sense you should stick with HTC-branded phones (I don't).
The primary selling point of Nexus for regular enthusiasts is that there is no delay in getting the latest Android build onto it, with all the bells and whistles that includes. If you really, really want some of those (e.g. tethering) and you don't care to wait those few months HTC has committed to you should change.
You state that you like the Legend. What exactly is it that then makes you want to switch? Figure out what you would like to get from your phone. What do you value most? Style? Performance? The latest new?
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For what it's worth I think the Legend is far too pricey for what it is. Probably because just as with the iPhone style is some magical quantity that allows the price to be inflated, but with the specs it's boasting it should be an entry-phone, not priced the same as the Desire.
Have a look here for a benchmark of the CPU performance of the Legend vs Nexus:
http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/
Nexus is more than a factor 10x faster than the Legend*
*) Though moderate your expectations: It won't necessarily "feel" 10x faster - there's more at play here.

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Nexus One vs. Everything else to be coming out soon

I have a Hero right now.
I'm debating whether or not I should buy the Nexus One now, or wait for different phones with the same speeds to come out.
What's your opinion? Is the Nexus One ahead of the game by quite a bit in terms of speed, or will it soon be matched with phones that are coming out soon?
I have heard a lot about Android Phones coming out with 1Ghz processors, but am still unsure about a lot of things.
So in short, should I wait for the newer phones coming out (with 1Ghz processors), or buy the Nexus One now?
Thanks.
All the latest Android phones that are about to come have 1GHz processors. I believe the only thing that will differ the speed will be how much available RAM each phone has, which will be less than half judging from previous events. I don't know what other factors come into play when it comes to speed and Android - probably little OS things. Really, as usual, your choice is of course going to come down to personal preference. Form factor, Android version, and etc. will be the things that will have to determine your choices.
I'm sticking with the Nexus, it of course will be receiving all the development.. like the G1 per-see.. everything that comes out will eventually find itself of the Nexus if good enough. So don't worry yourself.
Unless overclocked, all these new Snapdragon phones will probably come underclocked to 998ghz like the Nexus that has been bumped up to 1113ghz.. not that that matters nuch I would assume.
Oh yea, and the 8MP cameras that have appearing.. that will also come into play here.
Edit: to address the 1113 GHz thing.. I obviously meant 1.113GHz everyone, don't be such jokers.
I think Cyan said it best on his twitter the other day...
'"I'll wait for a dual-core.."-Steve
N1 is ahead of the game I would say. There will be other phones with the same hardware. No phone will ever be the first "superphone"!!!! N1 FTW!!!
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All the latest Android phones that are about to come have 1GHz processors. I believe the only thing that will differ the speed will be how much available RAM each phone has, which will be less than half judging from previous events.
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When you say less than half, do you mean in comparison to the Nexus?
That's another point that has me leaning towards the Nexus. It's the first phone of its kind, so it will be getting a lot of attention with updates and what not.
I kinda worded that wrong ^, when I said less tham half - I meant the amount of RAM each phone will utilize. Most Android phones don't see to use their entire amount of RAM.. though, there have sadly been phones with literally twice as much RAM as the Nexus (1GB). (I was wrong here, it was ROM actually)
I guess I will just agree with Cyanogen, until dual-core phones come out - I will be sticking with the Nexus.
I think I'll be getting the Nexus then... I just need to sell my Hero now!
Who wants to buy it? Mint condition! Comes with a Zagg full body too!
On another note, the desire, while having sense is nice, and that 50mb of ram, its not a deal breaker as the nexus has noive cancellation along with a few other goodies the Desire will not have. Also, the desire can't run on ATT 3g!!
Put your Hero up for sale in the Marketplace forum section.
Agreed: I'll upgrade when there's a dual-core phone, not before. Anything until then will be marginal, super AMOLED and 46363576 GB of RAM or not (especially considering that Android still can't make use of even 512 MB of memory fully). Everything else, like Flash and divx/xvid support, is software-based and can/will be ported. The end.
I have a Magic and will most likely be picking up the N1. For me the determining factor is development activity, I want a device that the xda community can build around. It's comforting knowing that many of the top G1/Magic devs have upgraded to the Nexus and will be working with it for the foreseeable future.
The x10, Desire, Galaxy all look very impressive but if there's not substantial developer support amongst those devices then I'm not going to invest my money in them.
Eclair~ said:
the Nexus that has been bumped up to 1113ghz
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seriously???
faraz1992 said:
seriously???
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lol, or even 9000MHZ!!
Oh, lol, you guy's knew I meant 1.113GHz. I typed that on my phone, kinda wanted to get it over with you know.
izmar said:
I think I'll be getting the Nexus then... I just need to sell my Hero now!
Who wants to buy it? Mint condition! Comes with a Zagg full body too!
On another note, the desire, while having sense is nice, and that 50mb of ram, its not a deal breaker as the nexus has noive cancellation along with a few other goodies the Desire will not have. Also, the desire can't run on ATT 3g!!
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If you want sense, the desire rom on MoDaCo runs well on the N1, just not my style. The camera has grown on me though.
izmar said:
I have a Hero right now.
I'm debating whether or not I should buy the Nexus One now, or wait for different phones with the same speeds to come out.
What's your opinion? Is the Nexus One ahead of the game by quite a bit in terms of speed, or will it soon be matched with phones that are coming out soon?
I have heard a lot about Android Phones coming out with 1Ghz processors, but am still unsure about a lot of things.
So in short, should I wait for the newer phones coming out (with 1Ghz processors), or buy the Nexus One now?
Thanks.
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Right now it's ahead of the game. But there will always be better devices on the Horizon. The Desire. The Evo. Etc...
If you keep waiting for the best upcoming phone, you'll never upgrade!

Is it unlikely the Nexus One will be overtaken soon?

As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!
my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.
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there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.
Jack_R1 said:
+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.
The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.
In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.
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Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.
If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.
evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.
Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.
If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..
If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone

WTB Nexus One or Samsung Galaxy S?

Hello,
Which one should do you guys think I should buy?
The Nexus One or the Samsung Galaxy S?
I really like the N1 because its really fast with Froyo 2.2 and it has a nice look to it and because it has an LED flash. Also because it has Adobe Flash but I dont really need all that because Im only 14 years old and im going to use it for texting mostly. and is texting on the N1 good? like is it responsive?
But I also like the SGS because it has a 4 inch scrren with an SUPER AMOLED screen. And i also like it because its really fast with games and the 720p recording is really good. But I dont really like the UI on it so do you guys think I could change it and make it look like the N1s UI? and is it good texting with this phone?
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Seeing that you are in the N1 forums, I'd say get a Nexus One
Why don't you wait until the S comes out to see how you like it? Spec wise it looks dope but I've always been disappointed by Samsung in the past...
I would die for either at 14. That said either is good
I would think the galaxy's better game performance would be a winner for you as well, the superior multitouch could help in emulators and other games due to the lack of hardware controls. I also say get some hands on with the galaxy and see how well it is built and your like of the UI. I use a launcher replacement that lets me use the Galaxy style app menu, and its not better or worse, just different.
I do not know who is paying for the phone, so I can not advocate the rooting side for you; seems irresponsible if parents or someone else is footing the bill. If its your money feel free to take the risk on warranty and brick potential issues if you so wish. The N1 has the rooting ease going for it.
If you don't want gingerbread the moment it comes out then I'd say get the Samsung. =)
Hey I'm 14, and I'd say texting on the N1 is okay, if not a bit irritating the first time you use it. I'd recommend you getting the HTC_IME keyboard, which is MUCH better than anything else out there IMHO.
You'd like the Galaxy S because it's faster, thinner, lighter, has a larger (spectacular-looking Super AMOLED) screen, has better multimedia capabilities, has TV out, has built-in storage and has a better camera.
On the other hand, you'd like the Nexus One because of the coloured notifications, the build quality, the reliability, the customization, the first-in-line for updates privileges, the community support and the wonderful HTC support. You might also will prefer the stock Android experience over TouchWiz that Samsung shoves into their phones.
Also, the Nexus One - being a Google phone - has the largest selection of Custom ROMs and root options to it. There's just so much to tinker with. If you don't want to tinker with your phone then the Galaxy S may be more suitable but otherwise the N1 wins hands-down.
Seeing that you want games and 720p video (which the N1 does), the Galaxy S seems better. The SGX + Cortex A8 combo is much faster than the Snapdragon + Adreno in the Nexus One.
Nexus one with swype done deal.
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If you're mainly going to be texting, go with the Galaxy. The N1 has some annoying issues with its touch screen.
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Nexus one with swype done deal.
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I second that, swype is the only constantly reliable keyboard replacement that I've found.
if both phones had identical features, i would say go with the nexus because its far superior build quality. hell, the galaxy is only like, what, 115 grams or something? its INCREDIBLY lightweight feeling/plasticy/cheap toy feel, while the nexus is solid aluminim, rather heavy, and just feels like a high quality machine in your hand. plus its so thin.
that said, the galaxy does have better GPU and CPU for gaming. but samsung do not update their phones, so you wont get updates unless you root your phone. just search the forum, this topic has come up a lot already with lots of useful info already posted.
i wouldn't get the Samsung for 2 reasons
1: 4" inch screen.. the Nexus screen is perfect size for me and the 4 inch screen will be way to big for me. but its all in a personal decision.
2: it's SAMSUNG.. meaning poor and almost non-existent updates and poor customer support.
And WTF, it doesn't come with a SD Card included some places.. that's very poor by Samsung.. Those specs, that price and no SD included??

[Q] Should i buy Galaxy s or Desire HD? or wait for the Nexus S?

Hello all.
I want to buy a mobile phone but i don't know what should i buy.
I don't care if my phone is big.(there isn't too big for screen)
but.
in my country (israel), thr prices are the issue.
those are the prices for the phones: (from a mobile store):
HTC Desire HD: 1086$
Samsung Galaxy s(i9000): 768$
Htc Desire:582$
i really want the best phone for the best price.
is there really a reason to add 300$ for the Desire HD?
or should i go for the Galaxy S?
BTW: A8 or Snapdragon?
Thanks All!
The one reason I wouldn't buy the Desire HD is the lack of internal storage space. I mean, 1.5GB vs 16GB? Yes, you can add on a microSD card and move your apps to storage, but the fact that many apps themselves don't let you do it is going to make things a tad more complicated than it has to be. Plus, you'll have to dish out some extra money for a microSD card, unless HTC provides you with one.
That said, the reason I would get the Desire HD is mainly because of the HTC Sense software, oh and the 8MP camera. While the 5MP camera on the Galaxy S is great, the lack of an LED flash leaves a lot to be desired. And TouchWiz isn't really my favourite UI, which is why I've flashed my SGS with a custom ROM and installed LauncherPro.
In terms of performance, I'd say they're about on par with each other. Bigger RAM gives the DHD a bit of an edge over the SGS, but the Hummingbird processor is just significantly better at rendering graphics.
I'm happy with my SGS, and personally, 4.0-inch is the limit for me. Anything above that should really go in the tablet category. Plus, after using the S-AMOLED screen on the SGS, regular LCD screens feel a bit.. insufficient, if you know what I mean.
This is just my opinion. Don't take my word for it. I still think the Desire HD is an awesome phone, just not for me. Since there's also the price factor to think about, and in your case there is a USD300 price difference. I'd seriously think about what I'd pay an extra USD300 for.
I'll wait for a nexus S.
If you are able to get Google Nexus S,
there is absolutely no reason to bother with Samsung Galaxy S.
If I could get Nexus S, I wouldn't even bother with any other phone including Desire HD.
except the nexus s is only coming out with tmobile 3g frequencies..
wait for galaxy s 2 or x12 (lol)
well...
I don't really see alot of changes in the Nexus...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3620&idPhone2=3115
yeah it's has Led and a few other tiny things..
but it's seems that the hardware is the same...
and i don't think that Desire HD worth adding 300$...
I think i will go with the Galaxy S,
Maybe i will exchange it after the Nexus come out
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BTW! The Galaxt S2 looks Great!!!
Think you should go with the Galaxy S if you get a sweet deal. Otherwise, might as well get the Nexus S since it's slightly updated with Gingerbread.
In reality, it boils downs to, which one do you like better. The straight one or the concave one. Haha.
Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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That what i thought about..
The Galaxy S and the Nexus S are the same phone.
so i guess that every mod that will be on Nexus will be on the Galaxy..
that why i'm taking the Galaxy...
(and i'm an Apple dev... :S)
I would wait
I would wait and get Nexus S instead of Galaxy S.
The reasons:
1. Price (~530$ in US if I'm not mistaken). If you have a friend visiting US (preferably one of the tax-free states), ship it directly to the hotel and ask him to bring it.
2. You get "stock" android with fastest adoption of new releases. Samsung's froyo adoption is about half a year late after Nexus and is far below in terms of tuning quality.
3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
BTW all..
I can't find any comparing between the i9000 vs the HD7
HD7 cost the same as the i9000 here.
so maybe i should get the HD7?
AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
I'm due to upgrade my Hero in January and currently torn between Desire HD, Galaxy S and Nexus S.
Here's my random thoughts so far, good and bad:
Nexus S
-Nice form factor, but possibly plasticy build like SGS.
-I'm not bothered about the vanilla Android experience as I would like to root flash a custom ROM from day one / as soon as available.
-I have a DSLR so the addition on LED flash over the SGS is no deal breaker.
-I have no intention of video calling so front facing camera is of no concern.
-NFC is not something I will ever use.
-Was expecting dual core, or at least a jump up from 1GHz.
-Unsure if / when T-Mobile UK will stock them.
-Most future proof of the three phones.
-Great screen.
Desire HD
-This was the main contendor to begin with but battery life seems to be a big issue for some and I don't really want a phone I have to either not use fully, disable features or charge more than once a day.
-It has Sense UI, which I have always liked.
-Great build, but possibly a little big.
-Nicest looking of the 3 phones.
-Screen not as good as Nexus S, SGS.
-Again, I have a DSLR so the 8MP camera + flash is nothing for me to get excited about.
Galaxy S
-Laggy out of the box - fixed with custom ROMs and other methods.
-GPS issues - Has this been fixed yet?
-Looks a bit too much like iPhone 3GS.
-Comfortable to hold, but feels a bit plasticy.
-Should get similar updates to Nexus 2, or at least good ports.
-Great screen.
-Increasing amount of decent custom ROMs, mods and themes.
So, with all that said, I'm still no closer to choosing one!
T-Mobile UK do both DHD and SGS already so I'll wait and see if they carry the Nexus S and then maybe I'll be able to make my mind up
Lee
gshklover said:
AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
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I understand that the HD7 is almost the same as Desire HD in all terms..
so i guess that it's only a metter of time that a Dual boot will come out..I think..
What do you say?
I want to buy the mobile this week... I can't wait >_<
HD7 or i9000?
I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
ofear69 said:
I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
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Wow, that's quite a price jump!
Personally, I'd go for the i9000 over any WinMo 7 based phone purely from an OS point of view.
My friend has the HTC Trophy WinMo 7 phone and it's a great handset, however I think the OS has a while to go before it's a worthy competitor for Android.
Don't buy Desire HD, it's a crap, beside the higher price than SGS, its battery life is horrible and its screen is never as good as Samsung's Super AMOLED.
If time is not problem, you should wait for Nexus S because it has the same specs as SGS plus Android 2.3, flash LED and good supports from Google.
You should get the desire hd it looks the best it don't have that crappy pentile and HTC has a 8mpx camera with flash has a micro SD card slot , and does anyone even use more than 500mb for apps/games anyway ?? , xda already has some wicked roms and with the new snapdragon(better than hummingbird *opinion*) the phone is mega fast straight outside the box and finally HTC always is the next in line for there updates
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But Nexus S not working on 850MHz for 3G
gshklover said:
I would wait and get Nexus S instead of Galaxy S.
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3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
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I was waiting for the Nexus S - I really wanted a stock Android phone, and when I saw the pictures I got very excited - and then I saw the lack of 850MHz 3G (UMTS) support.
Arguable the fastest and best coverage 3G network in Australia, the Telstra network runs on 850MHz (like AT&T and Rogers I believe). Pricing might not be as good - but work can pay for that .
So my question - should I wait with fingers crossed that a 850MHz 3G version of the Nexus S is developed/released, or should I just get a SGS (Telsta capable version - sorry can't post link am too much of a noob) and load stock Android on to it (assuming that in a couple of months someone will have figured how to do this for Gingerbread)?
I'm tempted to wait at least a little while, as no announcement of any availably of the Nexus S in Australia yet, but I really want to upgrade from my BlackBerry Bold soon (it and it's temperamental scroll "pearl" are is driving me mad!) The temptation to wait yet longer for a Honeycomb flavored phone is probably not enough to make me hold off.
Thanks for any thoughts/opinions on this idea

IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?
The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring
This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven
One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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My bad... I feel stupid
Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big
NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!
Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G
kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?
kopkiwi said:
So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

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