I was using xperileo 2 and im so F*ck ! my bill was sent it is amount for 1.3k when i press on my nextwork icon. the time for my internet used is 99hrs99min99sec and I didnt use any of it swear to god ! Now I am torching for the bill tell me how to fix my darn phone !
I think you'll need to provide a bit more information if you're going to get any useful help here.
Like:
What's your data plan look like? (do you have one?)
What data connections do you have active on the phone (3G, WAP etc)?
Did you let the connections get configured automatically or did you do it yourself?
My guess is that your phone was configured with WAP, connected onto WAP and that's not in your data plan. WAP is charged by time, not volume of data.
You do have a series of alternatives:
1. use NoData to toggle off/on your data connections (or just keep them off)
2. get your operator to block usage of certain protocols eg WAP
3. configure the connection manually to match your data plan
it is indeed charge by time. And it is set up automatically. Sigh i am out of luck. it is probably 3G and also I didnt know how to set up any plan
Look at your connections to see what they are connecting to. You should not have a lot (look in Settings/connections)
3G should not charge by time, it is normally by MB - so it sounds like WAP to me.
That happened to me too, after using the automated connection wizard.
You probably can't do anything about the cost you've already incurred, but you should be able to get the operator to disable WAP permanently (if that is the root of the problem). While you're on the call, ask for the 3G connection settings & input them manually (or just google "operatorname" "country" "data settings" or similar) - or they may just send you a SMS with them
all you have to do is turn off the connections using the comm manager... its that simple...
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Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
can anyone help?
How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.
it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged
OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.
jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029
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You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.
Hi all,
I've been at these forums a few weeks now and am starting to understand much about the PPC (I have a Tilt), software, ROM's etc.
But the one thing still confusing me is the Connection and Proxy Settings for AT&T.
Specifically, my phone has 4 connection set up: MediaNet/AT&T ISP/My Work Network/MY ISP. Why so many different settings and when are each one used or otherwise needed?
As for proxy settings, there seems to be 2. One setup in the phone connection settings, and then a "hidden" proxy. What are each of these used for and what are the advantages/disadvantes to turning each one off/on?
And finally how does WiFi fit into all of this, if at all?
Thanks in advance!
ok, i'm gonna take a stab at this see if i can get this right......pls feel free to correct me
AT&T isp - this one use the isp.cingular gateway, it is basically the one you use if you have a tethering plan (now tethering without a thethering plan is a whole different story altogether)
MediaNet - this uses the wap.cingular gateway, and you use this if you have a medianet unlimited or pda personal unlimited plan
My Work Network - use this if you want to connect to a vpn network
My ISP - this one has no connection setting whatsoever (at least for at&t) and just leave it at this one if you dont have a data plan and just want to use wifi.
the hidden proxy......its used if you want to access at&t services such as cingular video and the medianet homepage, as for the "other proxy" you mentioned......i have no idea what will happen if you disable it, i just leave it as it is.
I have an OEM HTC Kaiser with no mods whatsoever ( I dont want any awwww Sh%$ts!!) I go to the ATT website, Support by Device for my connection answers and nice screenshots on the settings. I think there is only one that didn't apply to my device...the hidden proxy one. Seems to help me with my problems
Those connection settings get me going too!
for the hidden proxy, you just need to find the enable proxy and disable proxy cabs. you can make shortcuts to both cabs in your start menu or wherever for easy access (just like the at&t roms). those cabs are all over the forums......search for it
When ever I use wifi then leave the location or hot spot, I sometimes forget and start using my phones internet and get charged because I don't have a wireless data plan. Is there any way I can stop my phone from accessing the internet? I called to have it deactivated but was told I cant because I have the Family text plan.
I'd suggest KaiserTweak. It's easy to find here. I have ATT's MEdiaNET disabled, as that's what I have & don't want to use [yet].
Jeremie
or you can just goto connection settings and delete the APN
or there's a program call "MoDaCo_NoData" that can toggle the APN off so phone won't be able to access it
just turn it back on when you need to use it
I've got a UK T-Mobile Vario III and will be in the states for two weeks soon.
I want to disable over-the-air internet access to avoid roaming data charges if any applications decide they want to go online (e.g. the weather plugin). I want to keep GPRS operating for send/receive of picture messages.
I'll have the laptop with me (with internet access) so I'd like the phone to still access free internet data when I've got the USB sync cable connected (or via Wi-Fi when I'm in a wireless hotspot).
Could someone remind me how to disable over-the-air internet while keeping the other stuff?
Andre
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Try this: http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
Works great for me.
Thanks for the tip, that worked great to turn data connections off, but it also disabled MMS (picture message sending) which is cheap on roaming and I will want to use quite a bit. It was just internet roaming data that I wanted to prevent.
Any other ideas?
Andre
Try NoData from Modaco. You can chose between mms or internet disabling.
See attachment!
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Try NoData from Modaco. You can chose between mms or internet disabling.
See attachment!
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That's the one I tried (same filename anyway) but it only offers one item to enable/disable via the 'Toggle' option, thus:
T-Mobile Internet - ENABLED
Andre
andrewilley said:
That's the one I tried (same filename anyway) but it only offers one item to enable/disable via the 'Toggle' option, thus:
T-Mobile Internet - ENABLED
Andre
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Disabling that connection shouldn't disable your MMS connection, they're completely separate. I installed my T-Mobile settings via a cab on these forums (since I'm not using the stock ROM) and the two connections appear seperately in NoData.
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Disabling that connection shouldn't disable your MMS connection, they're completely separate. I installed my T-Mobile settings via a cab on these forums (since I'm not using the stock ROM) and the two connections appear seperately in NoData.
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On my stock ROM, it looks like the MMS sending is done via the T-Mobile Internet connection.
In Messaging > MMS Options... the server it uses is "T-Mobile PictureMessage".
When I click on that to check the settings, it uses the following:
Gateway: 149.254.201.135
Port: 8080
Server address: http://mmsc.t-mobile.co.uk:8002/
Connect via: T-Mobile Internet
Any further thoughts? I don't want to mess too much as we go away in a couple of days and don't want to break the phone...
Andre
Just spoke to T-Mobile. They say it's absolutely impossible to do with this type of phone - either you have internet on (which gives you MMS too) or you turn the whole GPRS connection off (thus losing internet and MMS messaging at the same time).
I expect they're wrong, but I'm now at a dead end.
Andre
I didnt see it mentioned, but if you happen to know all the carrier information for the internet account, you could always go to "manage connections" and delete all of the data connections there. You can put it back in in the matter of a minute or so later when you need it but it would without a doubt keep you from getting any usage charges.
I have t-mobile with stock 6.1 (dutch) and for me its certainly possible to enable internet and/or mms seperately.
You could also try kaisertweak if you havent already. It has options for enabling/disabling certain connection types.
My problem is that the UK stock ROM seems to route MMS traffic via the Internet connection, so if I disable internet it blocks MMS too. I don't have any separate settings for T-Mobile MMS that don't use the internet connection.
Andre
thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure
thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure
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I experienced this when I flashed a custom ROM and for a while it did my head in. I realised that it was because I didn't have any defined connection settings - once I installed the T-Mobile settings cab it opened and ran as expected.
Are your GPRS/MMS settings configured?
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thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure
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same as profahmad, try it with a previously configured connection
ok first of all i did google this but didn't find anything specific
alright so under my "connections setting i have my "select automatic network" to MY ISP.....i thought that was enough to avoid data charges (since i only want to use wifi for internet browsing and emails...and i dont have a data plan).
So i was playing around with the email options and under the "server" settings i noticed the connection was set to Medianet....my heart came in my mouth since i've been going crazy with the e-mails thinking im connected to wifi I changed the connection to MY ISP and now i cant receive e-mails.....so right now im hoping i didn't get charged (somehow) or if i did.....what would be some good bs excuses to get it waived
so my query is..can i send/receive emails via wifi connection? If so, how do i set that up.....
Before i use to turn off "phone" and leave wifi on and i did receive emails with that setup.
so my 2nd qs is....does disabling phone disable medianet or mms capabilities ?
Disabling all Data services from isp
I'm right there with you. I do not want to get a data plan, as I only need internet every once and a while. I have enabled my wi-fi by doing this on my phone:
Start>Settings>Connections>Wi-Fi
then from there you can turn it on, find and join networks...
As to removing all access to your ISP, I am not sure. I keep trying but no matter what i do, every once and a while I notice the little "E" logo at the top symbolizing the EDGE network is being accessed. Which is not what I want. Anyone who can shed some light on disabling the data service from being accessed, it would be greatly appreciated.
hmm well I also do not use the 3G network. The best way I've found to do this is by using the Comm manager and going to the communications manager and disabling 3G and disabling Data Connection. Then if you keep wi-fi enabled it won't ever use the 3G network. If the ROM your using doesn't have a good comm manager then you can download one that has those controls because there are many on this website. Hope this helps,
-John
Modaco No Data is what I use
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
i have issues sending e-mails from the built in client, it always tells me i dont have access or some crap which makes no sense since i can sign into my account and check my e-mail from my phone so i normally have to go to the website for my e-mail to send an e-mail which is a pain