I've rooted my G1 and have tried several different roms including SuperD and others that claim to be the fastest. Within minutes of flashing the rom my phone starts to slow waaaaay down. Moving from open apps to the home screen gives me the black screen for a good 7 or 8 seconds and another 5 seconds later my icons show up. Even going into the dialer does this. I kill all open apps every few minutes to clear up memory but it's still extremely slow. Is there something I did wrong when I rooted or am I just unlucky in my choices of roms?
Is there a way to run the stock rom on a rooted phone? I never seemed to have this many speed issues before I rooted...
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I've rooted my G1 and have tried several different roms including SuperD and others that claim to be the fastest. Within minutes of flashing the rom my phone starts to slow waaaaay down. Moving from open apps to the home screen gives me the black screen for a good 7 or 8 seconds and another 5 seconds later my icons show up. Even going into the dialer does this. I kill all open apps every few minutes to clear up memory but it's still extremely slow. Is there something I did wrong when I rooted or am I just unlucky in my choices of roms?
Is there a way to run the stock rom on a rooted phone? I never seemed to have this many speed issues before I rooted...
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Root doesn't slow you down, the specific build does.
If you want to run a stock rom on your phone, I suggest the one available at developer.htc.com/adp.html.... which has root, just restricted (for your safety) to adb connections, i.e. only the "shell" user has the right to "su".
By build are you referring to the ROM? or the SPL? I'm relatively new to this if you haven't noticed
So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down? Do I need to just start over?
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By build are you referring to the ROM? or the SPL? I'm relatively new to this if you haven't noticed
So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down? Do I need to just start over?
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SPL is just an SPL. It has absolutely no effect on performance whatsoever. Its job is literally OVER as soon as the linux kernel takes control.
Just like the BIOS in your computer.
As for what build to run, OEM tends to be pretty lean and performs fairly consistently. Some of the community builds are very powerful, but tend to get BLOATED and slow. Cyanogen is an example of this (and typically everything based on it). Not to say that there is anything wrong with that, just a different characteristic.
You need to look at different builds that are available, and maybe try a few, and decide what you like best.
Go in to Spare Parts and enable "Launcher in memory." This should fix the home screen lag. If you're fine sticking with 1.6 roms, Super D is a solid and very fast option.
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So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down?
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Try enomther's "theofficial" builds.. they're based off stock but with loads of config options.
Moved to the Q&A section.
well...ive run quite a few roms....i had cyanogenmod 4.2.15 n was happy with that...i would enable compcache and enable the home in memory option....
i tried super d also and liked it...i tried super csdi or something like that and liked it but it started lagging on me....kept it for a while n went back to cm
now im on cm 5.0.8 and im pretty happy with it....i have it overclocked to 576mhz, have home in memory and compcache enabled...my only problem with it is that i miss using snap photo...images come out all garbled for preview....
i tried the hero roms and i didnt like the lag on them...look nice but i prefer performance over looks
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Ok I am having some serious dialer lag. I am talking up to a minute to actually dialer a number that I have put in or chosen a contact before it actually dials. I am running the 2.1 update and don't know if this was an issue before this update as I just got the phone wihin the last month and downloaded the update right away.
I do use Advanced Task Killer and have killed everything before attempting to make a call but it is still just a laggy. I have also gone in and killed processes that are running like Sprint TV. Still have major lag issues.
Is there a way to fix this? I am getting so frustrated and am about to return the phone to Sprint!
For as cool as the Sense UI is, I don't think it was quite ready for the Hero.
Plus there are bugs that have been talked about quite a bit in the official 2.1 update for the Hero.
Hero + Sense = Dialer lag. Even after rooting and running a (mostly) much cleaner flavor of version 2.1, any rom I installed still had lag in the dialer app.
I finally scrapped Sense altogether and went with a vanilla aosp rom (darchdroid) and the whole device, including the dialer, runs smooth as butter. No lag at all.
Thank you!! I did try and run Drachroid 2.8 but it just kept looping on me so I do have another rom installed at the moment and will wait for a fix for 2.8. Any other Vanilla roms you would recommend?
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Thank you!! I did try and run Drachroid 2.8 but it just kept looping on me so I do have another rom installed at the moment and will wait for a fix for 2.8. Any other Vanilla roms you would recommend?
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It's possible that the bootloops happened to you because of the overclocked (OC) kernel in DarchDroid. Some phones cannot boot at overclocked speeds and will just bootloop while trying to load up.
The latest DD 2.8 already comes with an undervolted (UV) kernel, which some phones can boot better than the regular OC kernel, so it may just be that your phone doesn't like OC at all. Lots of phones here are like that.
Try flashing and booting DD2.8 on a FULL battery. You'll have a much better chance booting an OC kernel on a full battery, and while it's plugged into the charger still.
Another good Vanilla ROM I really liked was Ic3Rom, but it is no longer kept up so it's not as current as DD or the 2.2 Cyanogen Froyo ROM.
Good luck!
Try turning off the dialer sound in settings. That fixed the lag for me.
If you try the latest froyo nightly, it should boot, it's capped at 691- which is still overclocked but seems like everyone can boot.
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I finally scrapped Sense altogether and went with a vanilla aosp rom (darchdroid) and the whole device, including the dialer, runs smooth as butter. No lag at all.
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I've been complaining to Sprint about the lag since before 2.1. Last night a Sprint tech said to come here for an "unofficial" way to get my phone running smooth, including rooting it to make it do things that aren't "supported." So after searching around here I see posts about Nandroid, rooting, backing up, restoring, and flashing roms. I've rooting iPod Touches but never a phone. I want to try this while I have hours to kill at work. Forgive the shortcutting but can you:
1. Point me to an updated step by step guide.
2. Point me to an updated recovery image.
3. Point me to an updated ROM that you PRAISE.
4. Pray for me.
Thanks,
Ken
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Forgive the shortcutting...
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Welcome to XDA! Just as an FYI, many of us here don't take too kindly to this. We have had to put in our time searching and reading -- it's only fair that you should too.
That being said, this thread will tell you how to root and will include a recovery image: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
That's all you get from me Now it's up to you to browse around and find a ROM that you like best. No one here can tell you which one the "best" one is....it's all about personal preferences and tastes. Browse the Development forum and try several ROMs. Also check the Themes and Apps forum for cool extras. You'll soon find what you like.
Good luck, and make sure you do PLENTY of reading here before doing anything to your phone.
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Thank you. I'm well on my way. Rooting as I type. I'll check out the Dev threads.
I am running a non OC version of aloyuisus and i am loving it nothing ever lags i don't run task killers. I get great battery life, last me all day with moderate use, if i tether i always make sure its plugged in otherwise its never plugged in until late night. I listen to Audible and mp3s and probably make about 1 - 1.5 hrs worth of calls a day.
no random reboots either,
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I am running a non OC version of aloyuisus
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Thanks buddy. I'll look for a download link for that one. I just dropped to RUU 2.27.651.5 so I can root.
brookegray said:
Ok I am having some serious dialer lag. I am talking up to a minute to actually dialer a number that I have put in or chosen a contact before it actually dials. I am running the 2.1 update and don't know if this was an issue before this update as I just got the phone wihin the last month and downloaded the update right away.
I do use Advanced Task Killer and have killed everything before attempting to make a call but it is still just a laggy. I have also gone in and killed processes that are running like Sprint TV. Still have major lag issues.
Is there a way to fix this? I am getting so frustrated and am about to return the phone to Sprint!
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I had this same problem. Even after rooting and installing fresh 2.3.3 it wasn't much better. I was almost to the point of taking the phone back to sprint when i found Cyanogenmod 6. I started with test 4 which was still pretty buggy but the current nightly that is out is awesome. FroYo is the best thing that has ever happened to my phone. No Lag, EVER.
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i found Cyanogenmod 6.
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The 5MP Cam, preview, and video camera? No video playback problems? I need to find that one!
brookegray said:
Ok I am having some serious dialer lag. I am talking up to a minute to actually dialer a number that I have put in or chosen a contact before it actually dials. I am running the 2.1 update and don't know if this was an issue before this update as I just got the phone wihin the last month and downloaded the update right away.
I do use Advanced Task Killer and have killed everything before attempting to make a call but it is still just a laggy. I have also gone in and killed processes that are running like Sprint TV. Still have major lag issues.
Is there a way to fix this? I am getting so frustrated and am about to return the phone to Sprint!
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this is a bug that was never fixed by htc when 2.1 was released and finalized. do a google search, lots of people are having this issue. no fixes for it either as the hero was left behind by htc.
Actually darch fixed the lock screen lag in his latest kernels. It's amazing
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Actually darch fixed the lock screen lag in his latest kernels. It's amazing
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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hes talking about the dialer lag.
chromiumleaf said:
Good luck, and make sure you do PLENTY of reading here before doing anything to your phone.
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That one statement can't be said enough.
Read, attempt to comprehend, read some more and then do the work.
There are some apps and / or scripts nowadays that will give you "1-click root", but I frown on these to be honest. There's too much "magic stuff" going on behind the scenes that you're not aware of and if an issue pops up, it's harder to backtrack to figure out what went wrong.
1-click root apps are fine, later on down the road when you're comfortable with the process and just want to get it done, but manually running through the steps to root, backup and finally flash a new rom is the best way to go.
I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
i tried like 6 or 7 Froyo releases the last month
for me the best 2 are:
Froyo Redux (CM 6)
SpeedTeam Froyo
in Speedteam: i got a problem with the market. downloading stopped working after a day of use with it. besides that, its really nice and fast!
biffmod it had FC's every 10 seconds with the "ime_input" blabla, fu**ed me off, so i deinstalled. couldn't really test it.
froyo redux: it begins lagging after a while of use, but i used it the most until now! like for a week or so! it reacts fast when getting a call, looks nice (install launcherpro for more speed in launcher/homescreen) menu's go really fast and it loads really fast too! For me the best Froyo by now!
chromatic : the style was to dark
SuperFast/stupid Fast: after install i had many FC's -> Deinstalled
Super-F : works fine the most but has problems with some files and cant play mp3 files !! WTF ??
Hope i could help u a little
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I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
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Try: Htcclay Superfly d/s v1.1 - Froyo 2.2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/07/rom-htcclay-superfly-tcby-v1-1-for-dream-g1/
Absolutely love this one. Market slow on this one but that seems to be on all of the 2.2's.
Thanks for the replies I've given Chromatic a try while I waited for replies and it seems to be the most reliable for 3G that I'd tried to that point. I switched out to Cannon's Eclair as well and that seemed to be good too. Chromatic seemed a little sluggish but no more than other FroYo ROMs. The main sluggish thing that I can't stand is text entry using the virtual keyboard. That seems to be a constant across all FroYo ROMs so far.
tranceonline, you saved me a lot of flashing with that summary so yes you did help I'm going to have a look at FroYo Redux in a little while.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've noticed but I usually use the keyboard anyway since it's a bit faster for me. You could download couple of the other on screen keyboards out there and see if it's the same.Try this one: attached Handcent. If it works on Froyo. Noticed a screen flicker on CM 6.0.0 though. Might just be my phone.?
I've learned a couple of things today, playing again.
Main reason I rooted/flashed was for apps2sd. Don't put upfront tasks, ie: Homescreen launchers, on-going service apps, mail, messaging, etc. on the SD, leave them on internal memory.
I was putting everything on the SD and it took forever to reload home screen coming out of an app and returning home. Don't ask about rebooting. It took forever to load the widgets and get up and running. Got to thinking about the slower speed of the SD versus the phone. So after installing approx 150 apps I said screw it, wiped everything, and reformatted the card.
Dropped swap to 32MB, ext2 512, & fat32.
Now I'm being careful what gets put to the card. Homescreen now boots and loads much better from the phone. Was reading about partitioning and in some cases larger swap slows up the phone considerably so they say. Why the 1 ROM I did suggested 96MB for swap is beyond me. Just don't run a "bunch" of apps at the same time and you won't need much swap. Some have suggested eliminating it altogether. Don't know bout that.
Much snappier performance now. Boots up fast and 3G is no problem.
Might hold off loading apps and try that Froyo Redux 1st. Haven't seen that one.
Later. Learn by doing
Just absolutely the worst rom I've ever had on my phone, and I've ran Pulse roms and half built sense UI roms.
I wiped my phone and cleared the partitions but it was always the slowest thing in the world.
The wifi never stayed connected
Gps never ever ever worked
after an amount of time using the rom
it would suddenly not accept incoming text messages
Tons of bogus **** like that.
Anyone else have this problem? I'm currently on speed team Eclair and it's working marvelous, just like the htc clay / fast test 1.6 roms with the 10MB hack.
(mind you these were his new releases, not so much his every day nightlies, but his stable and unstable ones)
Icebergxx said:
Just absolutely the worst rom I've ever had on my phone, and I've ran Pulse roms and half built sense UI roms.
I wiped my phone and cleared the partitions but it was always the slowest thing in the world.
The wifi never stayed connected
Gps never ever ever worked
after an amount of time using the rom
it would suddenly not accept incoming text messages
Tons of bogus **** like that.
Anyone else have this problem? I'm currently on speed team Eclair and it's working marvelous, just like the htc clay / fast test 1.6 roms with the 10MB hack.
(mind you these were his new releases, not so much his every day nightlies, but his stable and unstable ones)
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Its the kitchen sink problem.... which has two forms;
1) The more bloated big crap you throw down the kitchen sink, the more plugged up it becomes.
2) If you throw in even the kitchen sink, then you've gone WAY too far (related to the phrase "everything but the kitchen sink", which is to say you've packed too much useless crap).
In other words, it is a big fat pig. Just picture yourself a 350 pound fat woman waddling down the street. There's CM ROM for you. Moves just as fast.
Funny you should say that SpeedTeam Eclair is actually themed/botched/molested CM5 (which ran like crap for me ).
I'd suggest trying a straight-up AOSP Froyo ROM which does not use CM kernel.
I also am having many issues with Cyan's roms these days. I'm not even running Froyo, I'm running CM5. Random stuff will happen a while after wiping/flashing. Last time all my Google apps would just force close no matter what I did. This time the Market stopped working. Logs say it ran out of memory and was killed. I killed all non-essential services (which only give me 20-25mb of memory) and cleared app data for market, cleared caches in recovery. I'm just getting fed up with it.
I want a new phone so I can get some stable-ness back in my life, but Tmobile isn't releasing many cool phones like the others (Tmobile's Galaxy S design was disappointing).
Can anyone suggest another rom to run on my EOL G1 until something good comes out? =\
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The wifi never stayed connected
Gps never ever ever worked
after an amount of time using the rom
it would suddenly not accept incoming text messages
Tons of bogus **** like that.
Anyone else have this problem?
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Yep. I'm running CM6 and it is super slow and unresponsive, constantly crashes, no apps2sd so it runs out of space immediately and won't accept incoming text messages, apps won't install or update, background notifications don't work in any app? etc. Swap makes the phone run so much better, but Cyanogen says "Don't use swap" with no explanation. I don't understand why this 3D gallery is installed by default when it can barely crawl along on this processor. Did they even test it on a Dream?
Man I have had nothing but problems. Now the browser won't connect to the web, but Gmail still updates. I can't install anything in the Market, it just says "Download paused". etc etc etc. I tried uninstalling so I could reinstall, but that doesn't work. So now I don't have Titanium Backup because I uninstalled it and can't reinstall it. >:[
First, I apologize if this is an issue that has already been discussed; however, I did look through the stickied threads and didn't find anything that really answered the question I have.
I have tried several different Froyo 2.2 ROMs on my Dream, and they always seem to run a fraction of the speed of Donut ROMs. Loading the home screen, applications, and webpages always seems to take a lot longer, and there just isn't that quickness that Donut has.
Am I doing something wrong? Anyone else have the same experiences?
I actually have to stick with this fact. Also i did notice that the rom i tried "passing through" the process of moving on from Android 1.6 to Android 2.2.1 (was JF if i recall) was kinda faster then the Biff mod i have on my G1 now.
But i don't think that it is anything wrong about it, i think that frankly the g1 start to be an obsolete piece of hardware.
Maybe i am wrong but just so that you know i tried to download "Angry Birds Lite" and start it...well it's kinda a shame as it stutters terribly. Is it a matter of ROM MOD or just that the G1 isn't a young quicky fella anymore ?
The hardware is outdated .
It's just interesting then how so many people appear to be running these Froyo 2.2 builds. Do they not realize how sluggish they have made their phones?
Why shouldn't we M!x. Me, on my hand, i have a G1 blocked by my phoning company and sold me an 1.1 Android HTC Dream...so awful...i couldn't even use my camera as a video recorder (and they didn't release not 1, not only 1 update!)
And as long as i am flashing and modifying everything i don't find why shouldn't i update my phone to the latest version of this wonderful OS.
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Why shouldn't we M!x. Me, on my hand, i have a G1 blocked by my phoning company and sold me an 1.1 Android HTC Dream...so awful...i couldn't even use my camera as a video recorder (and they didn't release not 1, not only 1 update!)
And as long as i am flashing and modifying everything i don't find why shouldn't i update my phone to the latest version of this wonderful OS.
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Why shouldn't you? Because it's slow? Have you tested Android 1.6 vs Android 2.2? You don't notice the significant slowdown? Taking 5 seconds to bring up the dialpad?
ok wait wait wait...
Oh well...i dont know if u intend that literally takes 5 seconds...but with the Biff mod it's not THAT slow...
i only joined up in the topic cos i found the phone slow in some occasions but not that it jeopardize the overall use.
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i guess your the two among the fews who didnt get their phones up and running froyo fluently.
checkout the OTA and after that the more bareboners/tweaked roms, read through the corresponding forums, and try to admit that you have to abandon having fancy stuff on yer phone.
as for me im right now running the OTA the one available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
with cpu set 122-614mhz, using modified radio hack to gain +14mb of ram and modified lowmemorykiller values.
ive been running the system since weeks with no hangups,and is snappy az should be.
done these not with with third party apps but adding an initscript that sets these values at boot time WITHOUT needing running yetanother app running.
i dont even have to use compcache.
must mention that i use ADW home manager with only 2 desktops, no dockbar and so, minimized fancy in order to keep its memory consumption low, using only the calendar widget and Quick Settings in notification bar.
i have even found out recently that switching on the animations lets you feel your phone more snappy since it takes your attention while loading or switching between views/screensD
[it does work indeed!]
so snappy and stable that i am afraid of trying new so said tweaked roms like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825716&page=48
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929678
i guess more and more G1 users/developers are trying to strip down and tweak froyo to get the max out it since this may be the last stable rom available for our devices.
and no, i dont think that our devices are outdated, definitely not for normal day use.
so keep up finding the best way for yours!
cheers
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First, I apologize if this is an issue that has already been discussed; however, I did look through the stickied threads and didn't find anything that really answered the question I have.
I have tried several different Froyo 2.2 ROMs on my Dream, and they always seem to run a fraction of the speed of Donut ROMs. Loading the home screen, applications, and webpages always seems to take a lot longer, and there just isn't that quickness that Donut has.
Am I doing something wrong? Anyone else have the same experiences?
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You make these claims without telling what roms you've tried.
Have you tried this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620 ??? Because this one *IS FAST*. At least it is when combined with the 2708 memory hack.
I'll surely give it a shot, thank you guys
Thanks for the information guys, I will certainly try these ROMs. I have, by the way, tried standard builds of Froyo, CM6, SuperF, with disappointing results. They worked "OK," but had a fraction of the performance of Donut.
You guys can try my Froyo rom. Only complaints I get is about the Bloatware,lol. No drag, almost like a donut rom in speed. I have over 3000 downloads. The link is on my signature or on the G1 development section. Let me know what you think!
I got my captivate on launch day (well 2 days after due to shipping) I stayed with stock for awhile and just did the lag fix.. it was ok.. i think the first rom i did was cognition.. or perception one or the other then did the other after that.. ran those for a bit.. tried CM7 (i think that was in january?) then firefly then something else and then netflix hit.. and i went to Continuum (v5.4.1) and thats where i sit now.. and i'm about really to go back to a iphone (also i REALLY REALLY hate that idea.. i like the iphone it self but i cant stand apple)
heres my main issues. lockups and slow downs. my phone hasnt ever been prone to locking up. until about a month or so ago (a week or 2 after flashing continuum_) so i'm guessing its something i installed that continuum dosnt like or its continuum it self.. with way it looks like i'm probably gonna be flashing something else no idea what.. what ever it is i want to to support netflix (Suggestions?) as far as slow downs.. the away it sits now if i open up the browser and do a search then back out of that to my home screen it takes it a good 5-10 seconds to load the icons and widgets on my home screen.. very annoying might not seem like much very it dose get VERY old
i know most of that is due to the rom.. but that also brings up another concern i've having..
I like android.. i really do love the live wallpapers altho halk the time i dont have one selected due to it might be slowing down my phone (see above).. when updating apps on my phone (say having 2-3 apps to update and clicking the update all button) makes the phone SOOO laggy (had this on all roms i've used) that i cant even receive a phone call untill its done downloading and installing them all.. thats annoying but i can live with it.. another issue.. turning on wifi/bluetooth.. i turn off my wifi every day when i goto work np.. get off at 6am come home goto bed.. wake up and usually check my email ect.. and before that i turn on my wifi.. about 15% of the time it wont turn on.. it says error in the setting menu.. try a few times.. still error.. do i have to reboot the phone.. just to turn wifi on.. bluetooth does the same thing.. except alot less often (mainly because i only use bluetooth for my stereo headphone and thats maybe once a week)
now alot of that can probably be traced back to roms.. but.. if i want to keep using android am i going to have to constantly be changing roms to try and find whats the best? so far i'm flashing a new rom about every month (i know some of you do it every week)... and really i just want one thats gonna work.. all the time.. i know wheres gonna be bugs every now and then even teh jesus phone has them and has to be updated..but when it take my 15 seconds to unlock my phone because i just gotta text message and the screen fade out right as i pull it outta my pocket is getting old
now for hardware side LOL.. main issue.. the damn capacitive buttons i've made a post about this before.. and i know theres not much that can be done.. but MAN are they annoying.. 1/2 i have to repetatly hit the buttons just for them to see that i've hit them at all... some times its 10-20 times before i picks up that i hit the back button at all (i use back the most) The gps.. well at first (stock) was HORRIBLE 20 minutes to get a lock.. the last few roms i've used have worked better (usually gets a like in under 30 seconds but some times loses it.. for no real reason like i drive under a tree for 1 second.. but i RARELY use the gps.. last time i used it was months ago so not sure how i would work actually driving now.. usually use it for google maps and such
apps.. (here is the only point i'm gonna compare apple and android).. we all know apple has more apps blah blah blah.. BUT android isnt THAT far behind in number or apps.. my issue with them is 'polish' or quality of apps.. not sure if this is that iOS is easier to make thinks look 'good' or what but.. if you look at.. say HD wallpaper apps on android .. thes a ton of them and they all have a very.. plain GUI nothing special about them.. iOS seems to be better looking.. no necessarily better content but been GUI to the apps i do like the openness of the android market just about anything and everything is all in 1 market (altho i am liking amazons market free app a day) when as iOS you have the app store and cydia (and installious if you choose). your not gonna find any SNES emulators on the app store but you can find them on cydia where as on android they are all in the market (altho they did just purge them a bit ago but i'm starting to see them come back)
One thing i have noticed sence i got my andoid i play less games on it then i did my iphone
I know this has been kinda a rant and hopefully you can help me.. i do like my captivate.. but at the same time i am due for a upgrade anytime i want.. and i dont really see anything coming out on ATT that is really any better then my captivate (captivate runs everything i've tried just fine.. excpet needing certian roms for netflix and no hulu app support yet)
I guess i'm just looking for the fence see the greener grass.. logicly i know its no better... but the idea if just using it and not having alot of the issues i'm having now sounds VERY nice...
Sounds like you should wipe your system. I would recommend using Titanium Backup, especially the Pro version as it can automate the backup/restore process. Search around the forums and you can find how to go back to either stock 2.2 or 2.3. See if that makes a difference for ya.
I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too.
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast.
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you.
jmtheiss said:
I can understand your frustrations with the phone, especially in the lagginess area. Just out of curiousity, what launcher are you using? Used a few AWD launch, twiz, sony erricson, launcher pro Sometimes that can have an effect on your overall perceived speed. Also, if you haven't already done this, go into display settings and change your screen timeout to something longer. That might stop that particular annoyance. Current screen timeout is 1 minute.
I don't know what widgets you're using, but in general, the more widgets you have going, the more sluggish your phone will be. You could also try switching background data off (or at least auto-syncing), as that can slow things down, too. only using 2 Fancy widget for clock and weather and the power widget oh and a widget for screen filter set to 20%
As far as stability goes, if you're in the Gingerbread world, right now, things aren't going to be ultra-stable. Development of roms overall right now is going well, but it's still in an earlier stage of development. If you need stability, it might be best to head to Froyo for a while, where there are a lot of good, solid roms that would probably suit your needs. (Can't comment on netflix, as I don't use that app.)
You may find that your capacitive buttons become more responsive as you remove other lag factors, but I can't guarantee that. It's a little bit of the nature of the beast. i have been a issue really from the start..
The gaming area on Android isn't as developed as the iOS version, but there are still some good quality games out there. Give Dungeon Defenders a shot (if that's your sort of thing), or Backbreaker, or Robo Defense. All of these look pretty good and are a lot of fun.
Ultimately, just like the previous poster said, a system wipe and restart might do you some good. Just back up the things that are crucial, and see where a "format internal sd" gets you. Yeah.. i've done this.. many times.. thats one issue i have.. is this gonna be a never ending cycle?
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10charters =P
Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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Also remember that restoring data saved from a 2.2 based rom can cause issues if you are restoring to new GB based rom. If you want a rom that just works then u would say stay stock. As for your apps reloading I see this alot when people load way tooo many shortcuts on their homescreen. With the folder programs and app drawers there is no real reason for having more then say 5 or 6 shortcuts on a single page of the launcher.
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I have maybe 5-6 short cuts spread on 2-3 screens i keep everything other then handcent, mail, market, amazon market, gallery and camara in teh app tray
^ What zelendel said.
You could also try Zeam launcher. I've used that one in the past, and it's pretty snappy. Also, try turning the weather updates off on the fancy widget for a couple of days and see if that helps.
It doesn't have to be a never-ending cycle. In the same vein as what zelendel is suggesting, it might be worthwhile just to see how much you can simplify your interface and still live with how it works. I recently went from having 5 screens of shortcuts to 3, and I've noticed that the phone seems snappier overall.
Flash to stock KF1 Gingerbread and remove the bloatware. It runs Netflix great and I don't have many lag problems. If I do its when I'm trying to run music while browsing the internet while texting and having games open in the background. Other than that it really is a solid build since its straight from Samsung and isn't having to use a reoriented kernel. If that isn't what you like then try Serendipity 7, I tried GR-12 when Serendipity was in its early stages and it was nice, but I like the idea of having the *proper bootloaders (whether it really makes a difference, I don't know, but placebos are powerful).
sent from my KF1 Galaxy S Captivate