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Froyo Radio without rooting

is this possible? I've been using a rooted G1 for a while and just switched to a Nexus one. I'm running FRF83 but with radio 4.06.00.12_7. I don't mind rooting but I wanted to try the way without unlocking the boot loader.
i used the "how-to-get-froyo-for-non-rooted-nexus-one-users" from the unlockr to get froyo
thanks

You needed to use the official update with the radio included.
I don't think there is a way to downgrade from a newer update. Worst case you can root without touching the bootloader now.

4.06 is the Froyo radio.

Rusty! said:
4.06 is the Froyo radio.
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Thats what i thought too.

Rusty! said:
4.06 is the Froyo radio.
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This.
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I'm a foolish idiot and can't do anything with G1

The other day my girlfriend broke her Blackberry and I said I would lend her my old G1, now obviously I don't use it very often but I knew I would have to flash it because I remembered putting Honeycomb on it when it came out. My predictions were confirmed when I turned it on so I went and found a download of CM5 (Most stable ROM I ever used on it), but very stupidly
of me I didn't do a nandroid cos I figured I wouldn't need one as I didn't care about the Honeycomb I put on it.
Getting to the point, when I flashed CM5 it just got stuck boot looping on the bootloader, I tried some other ROMS I found in the form with G1compatability but they all boot loop too! I have no idea what radio I have etc since I don't use it often and I have no OS to check, any suggestions on how to just get it to boot.
*Flashing with Clockwork mod 2.5.something
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

when your phone is off.. hold camera and power to start in boot loader so you can see wat radio and hboot yu have

Thanks, Completely forgot the key combo, was trying Power + Volume down because thats what it is on my Desire HD.
I have 1.33.2005 hboot and radio 2.22.27.08, now what?

didge3 said:
Thanks, Completely forgot the key combo, was trying Power + Volume down because thats what it is on my Desire HD.
I have 1.33.2005 hboot and radio 2.22.27.08, now what?
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k so now you need a rom compatible with the radio you have.. most of the recent ones that say 27.08 or 28.25 and you should update your hboot to 1.33.0013d.... ooor you could completely un-root it and get back to stock firmware.. what do you want to do?

ldrifta said:
k so now you need a rom compatible with the radio you have.. most of the recent ones that say 27.08 or 28.25 and you should update your hboot to 1.33.0013d.... ooor you could completely un-root it and get back to stock firmware.. what do you want to do?
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I dont want to unroot and put it on stock in case I want to flash other ROM's to it later (like the Honeycomb that was on it)
The only issue is I have no idea how to flash the newest hboot or where to find it.
Links to the latest hboot and how to install? can I just flash in CWM or do I need to use adb?

didge3 said:
I dont want to unroot and put it on stock in case I want to flash other ROM's to it later (like the Honeycomb that was on it)
The only issue is I have no idea how to flash the newest hboot or where to find it.
Links to the latest hboot and how to install? can I just flash in CWM or do I need to use adb?
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Ezterry has an excellent guide with links to the latest radio and SPL. You'll need fastboot. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139

didge3 said:
I dont want to unroot and put it on stock in case I want to flash other ROM's to it later (like the Honeycomb that was on it)
The only issue is I have no idea how to flash the newest hboot or where to find it.
Links to the latest hboot and how to install? can I just flash in CWM or do I need to use adb?
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i use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983834

Thanks, flashed new hboot and radio and flashed a plain 2.2 ROM, runs fast and seems stable, now just to teach my girlfriend how to use android..... Guess I cant ask for help with that... hehe

[Q] How to dowgrade from Gingerbread Radio to Froyo Radio?

I have an Incredible S running froyo. I used the alpha method to S-Off then I rooted the phone. Since I was rooted I decided to add a rooted gingerbread rom. I extracted the rom.zip from the gingerbread RUU for my phone and ran the rom.zip through the Rom Kitchen. Only option I picked was to root. (Kept it simple) The rom wouldn't flash. Kept getting stuck on the slash screen so I used recovery and went back to my working froyo backup. Then I decided to download CM7 rom and flash it. The same thing stuck on CM7 splash screen. Used recovery and went back to my working froyo backup. I figured maybe I need a gingerbread radio for the roms to boot. I installed eng hboot and flashed the gingerbread radio for my phone. I tried installing both my rom and the cm7 rom with no luck. Both roms get stuck on flash screen. So I used recovery to go back to my working froyo backup. Now I'm stuck with a Froyo rom and a Gingerbread radio.(No sound on calls) I tried flashing the original froyo radio but after flashing the froyo radio my phones go into a boot loop with the HTC splash screen. So I flash the gingerbread radio and phone boots up and works again except no sound on the calls because of the gingerbread radio.
So my question. How do I downgrade from a gingerbread radio to a froyo radio? The flash methods I used to originally flash my radio do not work.

Glad to know I'm not the only one that bricked it like that xD... I don't think you can
downgrade... I am thinking about maybe trying to flash Optus through fastboot, but I'm unsure if that will work... But another option is to use a ROM like Revolution or CM7 which are gingerbread.

Same here bro!!!
Same here bros
I got my IS with foryo 2.2, was working fine. I thought to update to gingerbread but was not aware then i will not be able to downgrade or S-OFF.
I just got Gingerbread OTA update of 83.3MB, just updated and now its working fine but
no S-OFF, no customer recovery, no Custom roms
dieing to Downgrade so that i can do S-OFF for rooting and custom rom installation
ANY BODY HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

charch said:
Glad to know I'm not the only one that bricked it like that xD... I don't think you can
downgrade... I am thinking about maybe trying to flash Optus through fastboot, but I'm unsure if that will work... But another option is to use a ROM like Revolution or CM7 which are gingerbread.
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I'm pretty sure there was others.

araheels said:
Same here bros
I got my IS with foryo 2.2, was working fine. I thought to update to gingerbread but was not aware then i will not be able to downgrade or S-OFF.
I just got Gingerbread OTA update of 83.3MB, just updated and now its working fine but
no S-OFF, no customer recovery, no Custom roms
dieing to Downgrade so that i can do S-OFF for rooting and custom rom installation
ANY BODY HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First try the AlphaRevX method to S-Off. From there you should be able to install custom recovery, root, and install custom roms. If you can not S-Off with the AlphaRevX method then install a gingerbread rom on your phone from another region through gold card method then use the AlphaRevX method to S-Off. (Most people been using the Australia Optus Rom)

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NardVa said:
So my question. How do I downgrade from a gingerbread radio to a froyo radio? The flash methods I used to originally flash my radio do not work.
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Where you using this method to flash your radio ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15023458&postcount=6

jul644 said:
Where you using this method to flash your radio ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15023458&postcount=6
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Yeah that is the method I used. I thought with eng hboot I had the flexability to bounce between radios but for what ever reason once you go to a gingerbread you can't go back to a froyo radio.
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Bro thanks for a quick reply,
i did with both ROMS optus and WWE but AlphaREV is not working
just strucked on
WAITING FOR FASTBOOT
then nothing happens for ages..........
help........

THANKS BROTHER FOR UR HELP ATLAST I DID IT/MANAGED IT with VIRGIN/AU ROM
i flashed
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_Virgin_Mobile_AU_2.12.981.2_R_Radio_20.2803.30.085AU_3805.04.03.12_M_release_185029_signed.exe
with gold card inside IS
via PC running direct RUU

[Q] Virgin OTA update fail

Hi there,
I'm trying to update my s-off, rooted IS to 2.3. There's an OTA update available which I understand won't work (and doesn't).
Is the best option to flash the stock ROM (hopefully my terminology is accurate) and then run the OTA update? Where can I get the stock files from?
Finally, is there a way to backup/restore my SMS history, contacts, etc. once I update?
I have clockworkmod installed.
Thanks to everyone in advance for helping someone without a clue!

greatbigbrain said:
Hi there,
I'm trying to update my s-off, rooted IS to 2.3. There's an OTA update available which I understand won't work (and doesn't).
Is the best option to flash the stock ROM (hopefully my terminology is accurate) and then run the OTA update? Where can I get the stock files from?
Finally, is there a way to backup/restore my SMS history, contacts, etc. once I update?
I have clockworkmod installed.
Thanks to everyone in advance for helping someone without a clue!
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If you are S-OFF and rooted, then just install a rooted GB ROM. Why take a chance and mess with a carrier OTA?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796
This is a rooted version of the latest WWE GB ROM for the IncS. It is an unbranded ROM and doesn't have any carrier bloatware, just the standard HTC apps.

tpbklake said:
If you are S-OFF and rooted, then just install a rooted GB ROM. Why take a chance and mess with a carrier OTA?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796
This is a rooted version of the latest WWE GB ROM for the IncS. It is an unbranded ROM and doesn't have any carrier bloatware, just the standard HTC apps.
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Thanks! Can I just go ahead and install, or do I need to wipe stuff first?
Will I then need to flash a new radio - and if so... how?
Thanks again.

If you already have gingerbread 2.3 than why on earth would you want to go back and download 2.3 again? Not understanding. And no I dont think you will need to flash a new radio going on the basis that you already have a gingerbread radio right now!!??!!

greatbigbrain said:
Thanks! Can I just go ahead and install, or do I need to wipe stuff first?
Will I then need to flash a new radio - and if so... how?
Thanks again.
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I just flashed this over my Froyo 2.2 install and it kept all of my apps and settings in tact. Yes you will also need to upgrade your radio and flash a GB radio, too. There is a thread in the Developers section about upgrading your radio.

IncredibleSlover said:
If you already have gingerbread 2.3 than why on earth would you want to go back and download 2.3 again? Not understanding. And no I dont think you will need to flash a new radio going on the basis that you already have a gingerbread radio right now!!??!!
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You misunderstood the OP. He has a S-OFF and rooted IncS and wants to upgrade to 2.3. No where did he say he already had 2.3.

tpbklake said:
You misunderstood the OP. He has a S-OFF and rooted IncS and wants to upgrade to 2.3. No where did he say he already had 2.3.
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Yeah lol...I guess I read it wrong

tpbklake said:
If you are S-OFF and rooted, then just install a rooted GB ROM. Why take a chance and mess with a carrier OTA?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796
This is a rooted version of the latest WWE GB ROM for the IncS. It is an unbranded ROM and doesn't have any carrier bloatware, just the standard HTC apps.
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Final question (hopefully) - what radio should I use with this ROM?

greatbigbrain said:
Final question (hopefully) - what radio should I use with this ROM?
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Either one of these will be fine.
From the 2.21.1400.8 RUU:
20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03
md5: f727a2dae56fd64eeef525ebf64858f7
From the 2.30.405.1 RUU:
has the same radio as the 2.21.1400.8 RUU
From the 2.32.1010.1 RUU:
20.2810.30.085AU_3805.06.03.16
md5: c8c0be410c97e9bf82cdad54d4da0ef4
Taken from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129014

[Q] Possible to revert Bell IncS back to stock without RUU (radio and kernel intact)

Hi,
If I have a brand new Bell Incredible S with stock Froyo ROM. I want to flash CM7 on it along with the recommended radio, but I also want the ability to completely revert back to stock in the future.
From what I understand there is no RUU for Froyo for this device and nandroid does not backup kernels or radios. That said, is there any way for me to revert the device back to stock Froyo (kernel/radio included) later on or is a GB RUU the best I can do?
Thanks,
Mark

Markusn82 said:
Hi,
If I have a brand new Bell Incredible S with stock Froyo ROM. I want to flash CM7 on it along with the recommended radio, but I also want the ability to completely revert back to stock in the future.
From what I understand there is no RUU for Froyo for this device and nandroid does not backup kernels or radios. That said, is there any way for me to revert the device back to stock Froyo (kernel/radio included) later on or is a GB RUU the best I can do?
Thanks,
Mark
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Once you flash a GB ROM/radio combination, you will not be able to go back to any Froyo Rom/radio. You cannot flash an older Froyo radio over a GB radio, even with an official RUU.

Thanks for the info. I can still use a GB RUU to revert to purely stock GB device? Anyone done this on a bell Incs?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Markusn82 said:
Thanks for the info. I can still use a GB RUU to revert to purely stock GB device? Anyone done this on a bell Incs?
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Yes I had a Bell Mobile Froyo and have upgraded it to the WWE GB ROM/radio.