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what up yall! My ATT tilt died a few weeks ago (flex cable went bad, decided it was time to move on) so i got a G1 from my buddy that had a broken digitizer and LCD. ordered the parts online and got it put back together today. few questions though.... it seems that about the bottom 1/4 inch of my touch screen dosent respond....its brand new and the rest of it works fin...just the small strip that seems to not work. any ideas? also t mobile are assholes...i cant get them to unlock it but i will work on that one...im quite sure that answer is on here. Also...do i really need to get a data package or can i choose to keep my phone from constantly connecting and updating my gmail and other apps? thats the reason i continue to get HTC is because i think data plans are silly when everywhere in america has WiFI....i think thats all for now...and ive been a member on here for quite sometime but this android mess is totally different. lol. thank yall!
That 1/4" at the bottoms sounds like a bad digitizer. =/ *Most* likely not software. But you can check by flashing a new ROM and if its a software problem, the new ROM will override whatever was causing it not to work before.
You can get it unlocked for $20 from one of many unlocking websites, just google it. You can't get it free anywhere other than T-Mobile sorry to say.
You don't *need* a data package, I don't have one. There are applications that can disable your data connection except for when you need it (i.e. MMS). Or its a built-in widget with the Hero ROMs.
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi. But honestly, I think this phone is crippled without a data connection even if you don't use it all the time, I'm currently waiting for my current plan to end to sign another 2-year contract with data. But its up to you, its certainly still usable with enough WiFi connection points.
darn....its not very fun to take apart...plus i have to wait even longer...im currently using an old school , non color green screen nokia probably digitizer and not some random flex cable along the lines? maybe the black one? i guess there wouldnt be any way to check without replacing. and im not real addicted to any apps or anything, just mainly want it as phone/organizer. im a studennt and have wi fi at the house and at school, and every bar i go to has wi fi so i think im covered =) just making sure i could regulate it so it dosent pull and jack my bill up. if i were to flash a new rom, wouldnt that unlock it....and can you still downgrade it to rc29 when you dont have a t mobile sim card....or rather is there any other way besides adp or should i just go ahead and learn how to use it...seems a bit intimidating to anything ive done on a WMo phone.
you can use apndroid to block data from being used accidentally
flashing a rom will not unlock the phone.
Yes you can downgrade to RC29 without a tmo card
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
ztch10 said:
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
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You are correct.
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Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi.
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I haven't tried it myself, but this thread tells you how to get around that.
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
Chahk said:
I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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ah ok i figured he already found that or would.
sorry
You can root without data. Just activate wifi at RC29 when trying to sign in
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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all ROM's based on adp (and most modded tmo) have the option to skip (at least im pretty sure)
He just wants to activate his phone without data, which would require him to get down to a root level rom (RC29)
after he logs in, he has the option to root or wait for the OTA update if he wants to stay stock
if he wants to try to use his data, he can try but it doesnt always work (it did for me at first, but not the next few times)
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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1. That would stop just contacts, calendar, and gmail not all of the other apps that come with the phone
2. Rooting is definitely worth it, loving my hero rom
3. If your on RC29 there is no camcorder, but if not then it's definitely a hardware issue, when I was on stock everything worked fine
Just FYI: the unlock code is phone specific, so if your getting a replacement, the unlock code wont work on that one if the code you got was for the other.
1) If you want to disable data, download and run APNDroid. You can turn off autosync if you want but data will still be used.
2) Rooting has lots of advantages. Themes, faster updates (i.e youll get the latest android before its released OTA) more modifications, use of certain apps such as Ad-Free, etc. cooked android roms are more stable than winmo cooked roms, and you have the option between stable/experimental
3) if it was stock, its probably a hardware error
so could i potenitally not have any apps and not have a data pull problem? or it seems as though just rooting and flashing to hero (would you all go hero, or newer 1.6 stock rom, or custom 1.6?) and ill be taking it back apart to send the bad digitzer back, so ill check the ol camera out. still is stock T-mobile 1.5....no rc29 or anything....yet...
if you still have 1.5, you can use the 1 click root
im using hero right now, but i switch between hero and cyan using the switchrom script
the g1 on stock android will still use data even if you have everything disabled. the only way to completely disable it is by changing the apns, or by disabling mobile data on a hero rom
what was wrong with the camera? give a little more detail so we know if it really is a hardware or software problem
Quiccest way to get unlock code..just tellem you are goin to the uk or sum and you are in need of unlocking since u will be on there network for a while.. Usually that works!
my phone is messed up. this is what i HAD:
cyanogen 4.1.9999 and using handcent sms. everythnig worked fine in terms of my sms. got my messages on time, in order, and all of mine would go through fine.
NOW i have:
cyanogen 4.2.1 and still using handcent. now my messages are random. sometimes it works, sometime i plain never get them. sometimes mine go through, sometimes they just get stuck in "sending". then other times ill get a message but hours later. and even ill get like 3 messages at once hours later, and they wont even be in the correct order!
now im not entirely sure what happened here. but i analysed everything and its seems to me that the problem might be the rom. because its just abuot the only thing that has changed from when it used to work. i did not wipe as cyanogen himself said it was not nessacery. i did do the fix permissions and fix file systems. didnt really help. but i have a few questions:
is anyone else having sms issues after updating?
OR is anyone else in the los angeles area having sms issues?
because ive also noticed that my 3g has gotten real crappy lately.
what could the problem be and what would you guys advise? please help. if its because tmobile is upgrading to that 7.2mbps thing then okay! lol if not then wtf? im not paying $70 a month for this garbage. i strongly think its tmobile but who knows. oh wait, YOU knows
I'm having the same issues on this ROM, I reflash and typically SMS works for a day or two and then totally ****s up.
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I'm having the same issues on this ROM, I reflash and typically SMS works for a day or two and then totally ****s up.
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same here and im on the 4.2.5 ....
I had same problem with Handcent and CM, reverted to Chomp and finally just use the "stock" sms app, it made the problem better but I am missing texts once and a while.
that's strange. I am not having this problem at all with handcent. I have been using it with all my cyanogens and I am currently running 4.2.5 and have used all his previous ones without this problem
This is so annoying! Cyanogenmod shouldn't be considered "stable" when there are stupid bugs like this. It's so embarrassing to ask people to resend their texts. Try bragging about the Android OS/Cyanogenmod to them after that.
I have a theory, only a theory mind you... and I am only a noob. But it seems like the missing texts problem on my phone is often related to the fact I am streaming audio via bluetooth to my hands free sytem while driving.
If I send texts to myself via Google voice while listening to music or Beyondpod, it is extremely unlike to reach me, but if I try again with music stopped I receive texts much more frequently. Anyone having this experience?
Or does anyone want to test this theory out?
Also would moving my notification sounds to system (currently on SD, since CM didn't include them) possibly help?
just clear the cache in sms. AND flash the new ROM.
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This is so annoying! Cyanogenmod shouldn't be considered "stable" when there are stupid bugs like this. It's so embarrassing to ask people to resend their texts. Try bragging about the Android OS/Cyanogenmod to them after that.
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The problem with that sentiment is that it's not the rom. The information you guys are giving is extremely limited. djcalamari took it a step in the right direction by letting us know what other things he was doing when the messages were missed. Theres also about a hundred other factors that could be causing your texting woes. I, for one, have never had any problems with texting on any version of CM, even the experimental builds. I can also vouch for tons of people who havent either.
Have you tried wiping and then reflashing? Have you tried formatting your ext partition? Have you tried clearing app data? Have you contacted your provider to make sure theres not a problem related to your sim? Cause you might want to try some of those things before blaming the developer for problems that only a very small number of people seem to be having.
I am going to wipe and reflash, been trying to avoid doing this but the problem warrants it. Backing up apps right now via Astro.
Question: If I wipe ext, can I just copy the files (i.e my apps)...wipe, then paste them back with no ill effects? What would be the best way to do this using a windows pc? A live cd of linux, or is there some easier way?
Hopefully it wont come to that, though. I don't know if I really want to wipe the ext, seems risky? I know these are noob questions, sorry in advance.
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I am going to wipe and reflash, been trying to avoid doing this but the problem warrants it. Backing up apps right now via Astro.
Question: If I wipe ext, can I just copy the files (i.e my apps)...wipe, then paste them back with no ill effects? What would be the best way to do this using a windows pc? A live cd of linux, or is there some easier way?
Hopefully it wont come to that, though. I don't know if I really want to wipe the ext, seems risky? I know these are noob questions, sorry in advance.
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They're not noob questions, dont sweat it. At least you're being proactive. Heres what I would recommend you do:
make sure you have Amon_RA's 1.3.2 recovery installed. Once you do, boot to recovery, go to the console, type "utility" at the prompt and select the option to back up your apps to your FAT partition. Once it finishes, go back to the recovery menu, mount the sd card to your computer from the menu, and make a complete backup of your fat partition to your computer. After that, unmount the card and triple partition your card. This ensures that all of the data and symlinks get erased and the card is fresh. Once you do that, throw everything back on the card, follow the initial steps above (console->utility) and select the restore apps to ext option.
that takes care of your SD card. after thats all done (shouldnt take more than 5 minutes to do all that), perform a system wipe and then reflash the latest CM. reboot and you're all set.
My response to the HERO mms/sms thread...
Too bad the damn search function is limited to 4 characters.
Theres a laundry list of Roms with SMS/MMS issues. Most have unique fixes.
Best advice is to wipe , reformat your SD card , and start from scratch with said ROM. That way you eliminate most of the "problem is on your end" situations.
Too many roms get knocked out of wack for no apparent reason. Its almost impossible to search for a solution with a 4 character limit.
Ive had MMS issues with nearly every ROM Ive tried. Much as I love the performance had to move away from Cyan for now because my MMS issues were persistent with those ROMS.
i was haveing this same problem when i was running his roms so i called tmo and they said it was due to tower problems that ws 9 months ago ive since moved about 8-12 miles east of where i lived chaged roms but still use handcent....tmo and still sayin tower problems but " new towers will be built in roughly 120 days" from what tmo says i dont think its his builds its prolly tmo ...
by the way i live in wpb fl far far far away from ca but i was having a simialr issues so i figured id let ya kno oh yea and by calling and *****ing to tmo about it i got 10- 15 off my bill for 3 months ...it was to the point i was calling everyday submiting trouble tickets would ya kno it as soon as i hung up the reps were clearing out the problems ...go figure...
Heres what I would recommend you do:
make sure you have Amon_RA's 1.3.2 recovery installed. Once you do, boot to recovery, go to the console, type "utility" at the prompt and select the option to back up your apps to your FAT partition. Once it finishes, go back to the recovery menu, mount the sd card to your computer from the menu, and make a complete backup of your fat partition to your computer. After that, unmount the card and triple partition your card. This ensures that all of the data and symlinks get erased and the card is fresh. Once you do that, throw everything back on the card, follow the initial steps above (console->utility) and select the restore apps to ext option.
that takes care of your SD card. after thats all done (shouldnt take more than 5 minutes to do all that), perform a system wipe and then reflash the latest CM. reboot and you're all set.
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Thanks for the good advice. I am going to do this right now, that recovery image sounds pretty cool, lots of useful features! I hope this relieves my SMS issues after all is said and done, because other than this one issue, I love the rom!
If it doesn't, I may have to drop it, or my textaholic girlfriend may drop me!
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my phone is messed up. this is what i HAD:
cyanogen 4.1.9999 and using handcent sms. everythnig worked fine in terms of my sms. got my messages on time, in order, and all of mine would go through fine.
NOW i have:
cyanogen 4.2.1 and still using handcent. now my messages are random. sometimes it works, sometime i plain never get them. sometimes mine go through, sometimes they just get stuck in "sending". then other times ill get a message but hours later. and even ill get like 3 messages at once hours later, and they wont even be in the correct order!
now im not entirely sure what happened here. but i analysed everything and its seems to me that the problem might be the rom. because its just abuot the only thing that has changed from when it used to work. i did not wipe as cyanogen himself said it was not nessacery. i did do the fix permissions and fix file systems. didnt really help. but i have a few questions:
is anyone else having sms issues after updating?
OR is anyone else in the los angeles area having sms issues?
because ive also noticed that my 3g has gotten real crappy lately.
what could the problem be and what would you guys advise? please help. if its because tmobile is upgrading to that 7.2mbps thing then okay! lol if not then wtf? im not paying $70 a month for this garbage. i strongly think its tmobile but who knows. oh wait, YOU knows
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wohh dude thats weird a year from the day you posted this and my phone starts having this same exact problem out of nowhere...
HTC hero Cyanogen v6.0
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I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
You will want to look into an AOSP rom.. Since alot of htc's stuff all relies on one another. Alot of stuff is worked into htcs framework.
An aosp rom would be a good choice. And maybe just set airplane mode on so it doesnt connect to the network at all. This could be a temporary thing until something better comes along.
Decad3nce said:
You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
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exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
sleejay said:
exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
why would you need to do that anyway?
Why use the phone functions of a phone, If you don't have any service?
I think it's a great idea, I went 3 months using my hero has a pda using airplane mode and an app from the market that let me untethered wifi from airplane mode. Must say battery life was short of amazing but with a rom built for the very purpose I can see even more potential.
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
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as soon as i remove com.android.phone.apk i start with the constant and steady FC's. what is calling that apk?
Hey everyone, I just recently got a Samsung Captivate with Rogers, which is the i896.
I've been hearing a lot about rooting lately and i'm starting to understand a little more about what it is exactly. I'm interested in the idea that it can help speed up the phone and allow for more apps, but I have a few questions.
1) Where can I find the most recent way to root a ROGERS Captivate? I was reading around and read that the "One click fix" does not work anymore
2) Will rooting my phone change the interface of the phone?
3) If something goes wrong and my phone doesn't root, can I go back to the default settings easily?
I might have more questions later on but thats it for now. I'd just also like to hear your opinions on rooting and what exactly YOU have been able to do with your phone by rooting.
Thanks!
welcome ill answer your qs first then ill give you some links to help you out
A)rooting and flashing roms (2 diff things) are easiest done from STOCK 2.1 (which you should have) if you plan on flashing custom roms DONT do the rogers/samsung keis firmware update. it changes the recovery to 3e. (ink below if needed)
B) rooting does not change the interface. ROMS DO
C) if you cant successfully root, nothing has changed. you should be able to tho. and you can UNROOT, and wipe to factory too. for warranty repairs and they will never know.
OPPINION:
custom roms are the way to go, more current, full featured complete and on time, cutomizable, fun, and brain-power using than stock roms.
MY ADVICE: DO IT but TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ. I READ FOR 3 or 4 days before i touched a thing!! and still had very minor issues and things that had to be ironed out. dont let that scare you. its a learning experience. hopefully with the links i give you you will have less SEARCHING TO DO. but you my freind, are in the right fourm and right section, too! i have a good feeling about you already!
YOU CAN DO IT WATERBOY!!!
LINKS!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765 start here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I896 i896 specific crap but see i897 page too, same phone same guts (see rooting, hell read the whole thing)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897 i897 wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213 (3e recovery if you run into that)
oh and it took me forever to learn that there is an ODIN one-click, and an Odin3 1.7, both flashing programs but DIFFERENT, we can use ODIN one-click but not recomended it flashes AT&T stock back. ALSO not to be confused with one-click ROOT,,,
Typically its best to read around but you can use the following for rooting and unrooting
It doesn't change the interface
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I used it, no issues and now with a new ROM as well - you will stumble on many thing but this site has everything but u need to read a bit
Hey there, the rogers captivate is the same as the at&t captivate. I found a rogers phone in the snow, wiped, rooted and unlocked it. Installed at&t firmware and then flashed serendipity. I'm using it on telus no problem. Everything in this captivate forum will work great.
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First of all, thank you guys so much for giving me real replies instead of a bunch of "Go read for yourself" or "try the search button" lol... I've been doing some reading but I needed to ask a few direct questions.
@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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First of all, thank you guys so much for giving me real replies instead of a bunch of "Go read for yourself" or "try the search button" lol... I've been doing some reading but I needed to ask a few direct questions.
@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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Just rooting the phone does not change the interface at all. Rooting just allows you access to the locked system files so you can change them.
Also you won't have to use terminal commands to do hardly anything, but it would be a good practice to learn how to use it.
From there you can change your keyboard if you like. There are a few keyboards out there that are better than the stock keyboard is, as far a functionality.
Be warned once you get onto flashing and modding your phone, its like an addiction, and you probably wont be able to stop.
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Hey there, the rogers captivate is the same as the at&t captivate. I found a rogers phone in the snow, wiped, rooted and unlocked it. Installed at&t firmware and then flashed serendipity. I'm using it on telus no problem. Everything in this captivate forum will work great.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Did you try and find the actual owner first?
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Did you try and find the actual owner first?
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Ya, but no one called the phone. The screen was locked and I couldn't get into the phone. I think it was outside for a while, reported lost and deactivated.
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@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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i really hope that you didnt think i was accusing you of not being good with computers or being patronizing, i was just trying to provide you (or anyone else that reads this) with as much info as i could, while not doing the work for you.
terminal commands: ive never had to use them, no adb shell, no terminal emulator on phone, although it wouldnt be outside of my skill, i just prefer to do it without learning something i dont need to. (yet.. still thinking about learning some apping)
keyboard: rooting does not change any part of the UI at all, all rooting does is allow you to access (read / write / copy /delete) protected system files. And you can only do those scary things with use of other root apps after rooting your phone.
wifi: this is why some people flash new modems, if you still have issues and really want to send it back for warranty, dont worry, you can have it back good as new in no time!
Not too sure what you mean by flash new modems... ? And I wasn't accusing you of anything lol. Just letting you know that i'm not 100% dumb when it comes to computer but even then I don't know if I would be ready to use typed commands and stuff to use my phone.
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Not too sure what you mean by flash new modems... ?
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The modem is simply what the phone uses for connectivity. It is a separate piece of the firmware that can be flashed on its own. It is a topic that is a little beyond the scope of this post. However, there is a stickied thread in the Captivate development forum called 'the modem thread' that outlines a lot of the information. The main reason many people do this change is that some experience better connectivity, lower battery consumption, and some other benefits. Again modems are beyond the scope of this post, so I encourage you to read that sticky, as there can be some pitfalls to changing modems. Best of luck and enjoy the great phone!
Oh okay thank you. I thought you meant I would have to take my phone back and get a new one. The WiFi works fine, its just that I have to disconnect, enter my wifi password, then reconnect sometimes for it to work properly.
Do you mean that the WiFi is something that can be changed after the phone is rooted to work better?
Can't say for sure, but it's always worth rooting anyway.
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I know there are guides, but it's hard for me to follow how much applies to my specific case, and how much risk there is in applying those methods.
I have a Moto G6 with Stock software (build OPS27.104-15-10). Here are some things I would like to learn about.
1) Root: This would allow me to use tethering, among opening other doors, correct?
2) Install TWRP: This I just see as a useful step in playing with custom ROMS.
3) Install Custom ROM: I want to customize lock screen and various buttons, but my stock ROM doesn't support much.
I've always used my Android phones (HTC Hero, HTC EVO, HTC One M8) with root and custom ROMs. But I never knew much about the process other than to follow certain steps that would take me there. With TWRP, I could download ROMs, run them, and switch back whenever I wanted. Is there a simple recipe that gets me there with the G6? I don't need a zero risk solution, but I'd like to know if it's been reliable for most people.
I apologize if this has been spelled out already elsewhere. Feel free to point me there if that's the case. Thanks!
1. Which kind of tethering are you talking about? If you mean to share your data connection with other devices, root doesn't really help achieve this. It all depends on your carrier. There are workarounds such as PDANet on the Play Store.
2. There are (at least somewhat) functional builds of TWRP available in the ROMs section of this forum.
3. As of now, custom ROMs not available. Since there's a TWRP, development will hopefully take off soon.
Nowadays, rooting isn't so simple and should be taking seriously. Before you do anything, I highly recommend that you read everything carefully and research on how to recover if something goes wrong. We don't want you to have a bricked device.
Re 1: I was talking about sharing my data connection over Wifi. I'm on Sprint, and my old HTC One M8 running Cyanogen could tether. So there's certainly a way to do it, but my G6 with stock gives me permission issues. I tried PDANet, but it said it doesn't support my carrier.
I suppose I'll hold off on this for now until I can see a clear path or a clear benefit. I hadn't realized that this process might be more difficult on newer phones. Does this vary with brand and model? If I were picking a phone over again, how would I know if there was good custom ROM support? Just by reading the XDA forum for each phone I'm interested in?
Thanks!
Re 1: I was talking about sharing my data connection over Wifi. I'm on Sprint, and my old HTC One M8 running Cyanogen could tether. So there's certainly a way to do it, but my G6 with stock gives me permission issues. I tried PDANet, but it said it doesn't support my carrier.
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I'm on Sprint with a bone stock G6. Data sharing works fine (Settings > Network & Internet > Hotspot & tethering). I think the previous poster is right: You have to have a plan that allows tethering for it to work.
My old phone worked, and it was on the same Sprint plan that I have now.