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im elegible for a new contract with att and i wanna get the tilt but idont wanna get those pda plans, do i have to get that or is there a way around it? i just want unlimited internet and 1500 texts that i have and i dont want anything extra. thanks
Upgrade through newegg.com, thats what I've done. Worked like a charm.
I've upgraded on their christmas sale, got brand new Kaiser for $150 (rebate for $100 just came) with 2 year contract. They tried to make me pay $40/mo for unlimited internet, but after some haggling they gave it to me for $20/mo.
I've installed Gutty's ROM, enabled HSDPA and voila - unlimited HSDPA for $20/mo.
Currently NewEgg is only requiring a Voice plan with their upgrade price. Not data. That is the very reason I went with them as opposed to LetsTalks.com or wirefly.com. Not one time did they even suggest the PDA connect plan. My upgrade was done one month ago through their website.
i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.
i just upgraded my 8125 to the 8925 through buy.com for $149. kept the same minutes and got the unlimited date plan for $24.99/month. Not too bad, but I had the data plan with my 8125 for only $19.99. So they had to charge me $5 extra a month. Probably BS but its not that big of a deal.
rico002 said:
i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.
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A PDA plan IS the data plan...I think what you are asking is if it can be done without getting a voice plan while keeping a data/pda/media net plan. Is this correct? Honestly, if so I would just hop on the phone and call at&t or even wirefly/letstalk.com, I've never seen that offered online, but I haven't looked either.
no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.
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no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.
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Ummm, just change your data plan to $20 media max on the Account Management website. If it won't show you the Media Max as an option, change your device type to something like a Samsung SYNC. You can always change it back to a Tilt if you need to RMA.
here it is: my cuz i had 8525 bought an 8925 and didnt notify att and kept his data plan it was 1500 text wit unlimited everything, but they didnt know he had the tilt ( iguess) and i want to upgrade to the tilt and keep the same voice and the data plan that i have (same as above for 29.99) and not get that extra pda plan that they told me i have to get...but online i heard it says device upgrade only but i cannot find that option and pay a cheaper price like the blackjack 2 i could get for 100 after rebate and keep the same data plan w/o changing anything.
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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When you got your tilt, did you sign up for a new contract? If not then you should still have your old plan. They are grandfathered in. They CANNOT take it away unless YOU switch your plan. Just be aware that you cannot access 3G with the SIM card from your 8125, you will need a 3G SIM for that.
well i think i did sign up for the 2 year aggrement... but i did get a new sim card. but can they really change your plan with out telling you and make it 10$ more expensive?
Are you sure about that statement? There are no contracts for data plans like there are for voice plans to my knowledge anymore except for a few specialized data plans (most of those like some international data plans are 1yr commitments). Thats why you can add and cancel your data plan at any time without having to pay an Early Termination Fee.
I've gone thru some of my contracts for the past few years and I don't see anything stating any data plans have a commitment form either party. Only Voice.
well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
Yeah this happened to me as well. When I got my tilt they chopped my old plan to hell and back and to get it working right I ended up having to pay more money than on my old plan. Sucked and for some reason it's a hit or miss whether or not I get pictures messages now.
Ok, well i guess i will try my best to have them give me the 60$ plan for 40$... just have to make them feel horable for it
they do it cuz they make commision off u
its in the contract u signed. they lie, cheat.
thats how corporate is though.
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
stealthj said:
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
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One time when i was in the At&t store talking to a rep making adjustments to my plan, he noticed the HIGH data usage and saw that i had a medianet plan and not pda connect on my 8525 (this was about 6 months ago).
He tried to force me to switch to the $49.99 pda connect plan but i just persisted that i bought the 8525 from them with that plan so he let it slide (although it was an imate jasjam and not att's branded 8525 )
BUT he warned me that if i get "Caught", and he said i will, they will charge me per KB which will have the bill break through the roof! But i know if this happens i can just go to the store with my bill and add the pda plan and have them cancel the charges. (i've done this before when i went over my minutes, messages, and kb when i was on a 5mb plan, not unlimitted)
I haven't been caught yet and last week i switched to the unlimited pda data plan for $30 so i'm playing it safe now (but still tethering )
ALso i can not connect to isp.cingular, i thought that was the point of the pda plan. Do i have to call and ask them to allow me to access isp.cingular?
From my experience, wap.cingular is faster than isp.cingular.
I have the $45/mo PDA Unlimited Plan (includes 500 any-type messages), and I tether using wap.cingular. I get 50-100kb/sec download speeds on my laptop when tethered.
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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I just keep changing my phone on AT&T Billing and everything works okay thus far
brianmay27 said:
well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
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oh I do believe that is with their data plan. Your paying $10 more a month for $100 off in 6 months or something.
PDA Connect Unlimited still available, AFAIK
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. . . i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
brianmay27 said:
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Typically if you read the two year agreements or rebate agreements they will say that it's only valid with a specific data and voice plan of at least $X value. That's not uncommon.
As for getting back a grandfathered plan. I know at Sprint, depending on how old the plan was, once it was deprovisioned the system just was no longer capable of reprovisioning it. No matter how much you wanted it to.
My guess is though that you did in fact agree to have your plan changed. They just didn't make it any more clear than they legally have to.
cushcalc said:
Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
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My mistake... I am on the $39.99 PDA Unlimited plan. I was on a strange combination of Data and Messaging plans until I went into an AT&T store to buy a pair bluetooth headphones, and the rep looked at my account and pointed out that I could save money by combining my 2 options into this 1 plan.
this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
rico002 said:
this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
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That is a cute trick, but you are not the first to think of it. AT&T can tell that your are on the tilt. The browser requests contain information about what OS you are using. You probably are not using ridiculous amounts of data, so they have no reason to look. If they ever do look tho, they will see you are on WM, and they will switch you to the correct plan without warning.
I work for AT&T Tech Support. For the sake of keeping my job i'll call my self BoB.
Anyway you can still tether with wap.cingular as mentioned before. The only way we'd catch you is if you were downloading torrent or excessive amounts of data. We recently changed our data features which I think is retarded.
One thing they don't tell you is that the new Tethering plans which cost money out the ass have a 5GB soft limit.
What this means is that after 5GB of data you have used, AT&T will monitor any usage past the 5gb. The reason for this is so that they could price their data plans accordingly, hopefully for the better but in this world probably will be for the worse.
If you are casually browsing just use internet sharing in your phone to tether. Go to File Explorer-Windows-Scroll down about halfway to Internet Sharing then hit connect.
YOu could also go to wmwifirouter.com and download the app straight from the phone, it turns your phone into a router and you can just tether like that. I think it's ridiculous to charge so much for data. Sprint (even though I would never switch) Has their unlimited everything for 99 dollars, data, gps, voice, tv, etc. That just goes to show you how much unlimited data is actually worth.
Get a 19.99 Medianet Unlimited Plan, 19.99 Unl Messaging and you are set
Just get a RaZR and switch your sim card out, place a couple of test calls, and boom call in to have it changed or go online to make the change. After you have both features on put SIM back into TILT and you're done. I feel so bad when I tell a customer that in order to tether they need a 60 dollar feature. I'd feel insulted if that were me.
Thanks everyone for this help... after reading i guess my new question is what is so different between isp and wap... i thought it was like wap goes through a proxy and is not "THE internet" where as isp is "THE internet". is that right? also i would run a speed test too but well i cant.
noob question. i tried searching for it but no luck. i cant seem to get at&t to except my x1a they say its not in there system. im in the us and i keep seeing people say there using att but how did you get it activated?
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noob question. i tried searching for it but no luck. i cant seem to get at&t to except my x1a they say its not in there system. im in the us and i keep seeing people say there using att but how did you get it activated?
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well there is no "activation" of the x1a on att.. just put an existing att sim card in the back and there ya go. x1a should do the rest of the setup for you. att knows i have x1a and they still only charge me 15 a month for unlimited internet.. muwahaha!
^^^ What he said, but don't forget to update to the newest firmware. My provider was not in the first firmware, but after I updated to R2A the phone configured itself automatically.
Yup, the X1 does the whole set up for you. All you have to do is insert the sim card, turn on the phone and it will automatically find all the settings for you. Easy as that! I would definitely update the ROM as Orelsi says. Unlimited Data is only $10 a month if you are on a family plan! MUAHAHAHHA.
ya but i dont already have an account with them and they sent me a phone i put the sim in my x1 and nothing happend. i called them and they said they couldnt find the phone so it wouldnt work. im sending the phone back. i dont need a 2 year contract and i dont know what to do from here
What the in the hell are you talking about dude. Your carrier will never be able to find out what phone you are using unless you take it to the store, show it to a representative/salesman and say "here is my phone"
What in the world are you talking about dude. Are you talking your online phone profile? The phone you pick for your profile doesn't matter. Your profile could be saying that you are using the LG Vu, and yet your actual phone is the Xperia X1. Is this what you're talking about?
how in devils name are you guys getting $10 unlimited data plan when mine is $30
cenwesi said:
how in devils name are you guys getting $10 unlimited data plan when mine is $30
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Family plan baby! There is an option for an unlimited family data plan in att.com in which you have to pay only $10 a month vs. $15 if you are not in one. The $30 plan is a smartphone plan that AT&T is pushing upon you and isn't really required if you have a unlocked phone, so you could be spending $15/month instead!
My suggestion is that, if you have authorized access to change your plan try and do so, log on online @ www.att.com and change your plan from the $30 plan to the $15 plan. I don't know if you can do this if you are locked into your 2-year commitment, but you might as well and try anyways. Another way that I changed my plan was going to in-store and told the rep I had a SE 850i (any non smartphone will do) that is unlocked and wanted to get internet on it and they hooked me up with the non smartphone plan.
Check out this interesting link too:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...smartphone-data-plans-starting-september-6th/
The whole reasoning switched to Tmobile (besides the obvious). Was to get a cheaper phone bil. Now for various reasons they wont let me transfer to my dads unlimited family plan. So I want out of my contract. Any tips or suggestions? I know I can get out if they change my rates right? Is there any websites that will keep me on top of that? Thanks.
Hmm, maybe you should go to a different store or try through online chat. They let me move a contracted phone to my Even More Plus account. The only thing is, the phone remains in contract but at the cheaper non-contract rate. Once that one phones contract expires, I'm fully contract free. I did it all through the online chat.
never
ever sign another contract......
but for now ask to be released, then if the disagree just pay the fee and then setup a no contract account, buy a phone outright and remember the lesson. carriers only have contracts because they have no reason for poeple to stay.... sorry
I was considering the G2 until of course all the rooting fiascos. But now that it has been permrooted for good, I'm considering picking one up. You can find one for 350ish on craigslist, so I'm thinking about it.
Anyone else?
No thank you. with gingerbread coming out soon. why would anyone not stick with the N1?
Honestly I think gingerbread is going to be a severe disappointment. I think it will be a bunch of bug fixes and maybe one or 2 features that most people won't care about. But that's another discussion.
The only thing keeping me away from the G2 is my uncertainty about a blinking notification. I know that the "ring" around the trackpad lights up, but if it works the same way that it does on stock nexus (meaning one blink in every 15 seconds), I'm gonna be really mad. Other than that I like the phone, I like the styling.
Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
I have still yet to see a phone come out that makes me even consider getting rid of my nexus. Every day at work I have to help friends with less open android devices accomplish things that take mere seconds on this hacker-friendly handset. Sure, there are some phones with slightly better hardware now... but what fun is a phone that doesn't let you tweak it to your heart's content? For me, I will stick with the N1 over the G2.
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Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Thanks! I just did that. My bill is now 20 dollars lower. Although it was just called Unlimited Web for phones. I hope it's the right one that I chose.
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Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Doesn't T-mobile eventually send you a message telling you that you're required to upgrade your data plan because they've figured out that you're on a smartphone?