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TomTom Navigator voice prompts and phone calls

I have recently accuired the TomTom Navagator 2 software and am extremely pleased with it.
I do not currently have any car kit for making handsfree phone calls.
I have installed tha loud voice prompts so that the tomtom voice commands can be heard through the xda's speakers and im happy with this.
However compared to the loud voice prompts by the navigator software the handsfree audio available through the xdas speaker during a phone call is almost inaudiable over the road noise.
I therefore think im going to have to buy or build some handsfree.
My question is primarilly if im to use the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins to output audio does all audio output through these pins or only phone audio. ie will i also hear the navigator voice prompts through my hands free (this is what i want)
Also Im wondering if it is possible to use the output from these pins to send audio to a car speaker without connecting an external mic and continueing to use the microfone built in to the xda during phone calls as know one has ever complained about not hearing me - i just cant hear them.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give - im sure somebody out there has played with this allready.

roycruse said:
My question is primarilly if im to use the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins to output audio does all audio output through these pins or only phone audio. ie will i also hear the navigator voice prompts through my hands free (this is what i want)
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All audio (phone and PDA) is output on these pins.
Also Im wondering if it is possible to use the output from these pins to send audio to a car speaker without connecting an external mic and continueing to use the microfone built in to the xda during phone calls as know one has ever complained about not hearing me - i just cant hear them.
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As long as leave the CAR_ON# pin open (i.e. not connect it to ground or 5V), the microphone of the device is used.

As long as leave the CAR_ON# pin open (i.e. not connect it to ground or 5V), the microphone of the device is used.
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Do you mean that internal microphone is used but all audio is still output to the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins with the car_on# pin left open.

roycruse said:
Do you mean that internal microphone is used but all audio is still output to the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins with the car_on# pin left open.
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correct.

The soldering iron is warming up allready.
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That sounds like exactly what i need - ill modify my tomtom cable to include the 2 new connectors then run an extra cable out of the 3 way connector on the tomtom lead to go to either my car stereo or a speaker amp mounted under the seat or something.
I dont know if my stereo in my car will except car phone input as its in the shop at the moment getting repaired so i cant take it out - but how do these things usually work - does a pin on the stereo side have to go +5 or GND for the car phone audio to replace the music or does it detect audio and automatically cut in over the music... excuse my ignorance car stereos and car kits are not in my realm of expertise.
If there is a pin that has to be made +5 or GND on steroes to know when the audio needs to be output can the xda handle this at all...

Usually car radios have a mute input to turn off or down the music when the phone needs the speakers. The XDA does not have such an output. You could fabricate something that detects audio and then for a preset time presents the right mute signal to the radio.
Always questions ask you do... Try and fail you must to learn!

Thanks for all your help. I'll start hacking at all my new kit as soon as possible...

Solution: Phone calls over Headphones, and PPC mic.

Solution is posted on page two, Thank you everyone.
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When answering phone calls with headphones plugged in sound comes through clearly. I can hear the other person just find. However, they can not hear me.
Is there a way to enable the internal microphone on the device while having headphones connected?
Thank you.

I am looking for the same solution. I hooked up my phone to my car with aux input to listen music in the car. but when I get a call I have to unplug it because the mic on phone is disabled..if anyone knows a fix for it it would be a huge favor.Thanks

hayaticik said:
I am looking for the same solution. I hooked up my phone to my car with aux input to listen music in the car. but when I get a call I have to unplug it because the mic on phone is disabled..if anyone knows a fix for it it would be a huge favor.Thanks
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Yeah same deal, Bluetooth headphones would apply aswell.

You could get an adapter that has a built in microphone. They're available and not expensive.

PerfAlbion said:
You could get an adapter that has a built in microphone. They're available and not expensive.
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But that is just a workaround. The problem is still there. I don't think it is that hard to fix, but I don't know how or where to mess up with it.
Also, it would be interesting if there was an option to use Kaiser's automatic answering after 3 ring with the speakerphone.. but that's a little offtopic I think

subscribing. I would also like to know.

TurtleTech said:
When answering phone calls with headphones plugged in sound comes through clearly. I can hear the other person just find. However, they can not hear me.
Is there a way to enable the internal microphone on the device while having headphones connected?
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When a headset is plugged in the mini usb port the unit (just like any other phone) it goes into headset profile and switches mic input to the headset.
Are you using the supplied headset (mini usb) or an adapter for 3.5mm jack?
The supplied headset enables the mike (in the small bulb on the cable) for talking and most people lift this to their mouths to talk on any phone.
If anyone is having this problem with a BT headphone (not headset!) then check in BT settings that the headphones are not set for 'Use as BT headset' only for 'Wireless Stereo'.
Hope this helps.

Farsquidge, Thank you for your response.
Using an adapter that outputs 3.5mm connection that connects to normal headphones or AUX connection for stereo.
You said that the phone switches profiles. When a 3.5mm external headphone is connected the phone switches to headset mode and with this we can assume that the phone is looking for external microphone aswell.
Solution: Change the headset profile to use the internal microphone rather than looking for a external microphone.
Goal: Using 3.5mm headphones with phones internal microphone.
Thank you.

TurtleTech said:
Farsquidge, Thank you for your response.
Using an adapter that outputs 3.5mm connection that connects to normal headphones or AUX connection for stereo.
You said that the phone switches profiles. When a 3.5mm external headphone is connected the phone switches to headset mode and with this we can assume that the phone is looking for external microphone aswell.
Solution: Change the headset profile to use the internal microphone rather than looking for a external microphone.
Goal: Using 3.5mm headphones with phones internal microphone.
Thank you.
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Yep, you got it. You need an 'intelligent' app that knows you have a headset connected (usb adapter) but no mike so it can keep the internal mike on!!
Nothing out there that is that clever but the guys doing Kiaser Tweak may be able to give you something that you can manually select the profile to enable the internal mike!!
Why not ask them???

Any ideas?

There must be a solution for this simple problem, dutty???

Does anyone have any ideas?

i think this is what you are looking for:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
but what WOULD be nice is that it's a male adapter, so you don't need the 3.5mm converter.
I started to put together something like this, just have to get off my butt and perform the splicing! Otherwise, that is how it's done.
Anyone know if there's a web site selling the USB adapter to 3.5mm male adapter and not female?
tvos

Right here budy:
http://www.javoedge.com/reflexeshop/productCatalog/getProduct.do?poid=1717&pbmId=14410

dude... you rock!! I have been looking for ages something like this for previous PPC's.
I know this is asking the world.. what about shorter length, make retractable w/microphone for phone operation?
anyways, i am placing my order today!
i love XDA Dev.. should have switched over from the other forums! this place doesn't sit still and the questions & answers are always there!
THANK YOU!!!
tvos

No problem. I generally dont post much. But I just couldnt let some be wondering all their life.
Theres this but its female:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=866
I thought about getting it but I cant justify $30 for it. For a little more I could get BT ones.

just ordered the product today. will let you know how it works!
I am just glad someone stepped up and finally created a product that is a male adapted direct input to female. This is a rare item!
Thank You!
tvos

Thank you gentlemen. Solution: An adapter with microphone and 3.5mm output.

Just recieved the cable today!
its excellent and fits snug! - wraps around the proclip cradle and directly into the female input car radio.
Yes, if they could make this with a mic adapter, that would be cool.
But for now, this beats rigging something from radio shack - splicing a few wires together just because someone is picky with length..
tvos

Awesome Im Getting One!!!

Diamond - using in-car, few issues...

Hi All,
I'm wanting to use my Diamond in the car to replace both my old iPod and sat-nav, while still having phone functions available. There are a few things I'm not happy with, so I thought I see what other people are doing.
I have a car head unit with a direct 3.5mm line-in, which used to have the iPod on the end. The Diamond works fine plugged into this through an ebay 3.5mm\USB adaptor.
If I plug the 12v>USB charger in, I get a whine over the audio - not a big problem, it's just a ground-loop, so I'll stick an isolating transformer in-line.
The main problem I have is switching between the internal speaker and the external output. If I want to have the radio on, rather than MP3, I have to unplug the adaptor, and plug the charging cable in direct, so that I can keep the battery charged - not ideal. This way I can hear the TomTom voices through the internal speaker, but it seems wrong to have to swap leads this way.
The other main problem is if I have MP3 and TomTom all through the stereo, and I get a call, I can hear the call over the stereo, but can't speak, as the Diamond is expecting an external microphone.
I guess what I need is a utility to force only the internal microphone to be used, and to allow me to force the internal speaker when I want to use the radio. It there such a thing?

I think one of these car holders has an option to plug in charger and usb-3.5mm jack adapter at the same time....
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/Holder/HTC+Touch Diamond-Brodit-Holder.asp
If i had the skills i'd try to figure out a hack to pause/mute the mp3 and mute satnav when in a call... but I don't.

That's not the problem - I can plug in the charger and 3.5mm audio at the some time, but that redirects all the audio to the car stereo, and disconnects the mic. Removing the adaptor and plugging in just the charger enables the microphone, but all my MP3s then are played through the internal speaker.
What I need is a utility to force the internal microphone to be used _all_ the time, and let me choose when to use the internal speaker when a headset is detected.

I don't suppose anyone knows how the Diamond recognises a headset? Is there a resistor link across a couple of the pins in the 11pin connnector? I'm just thinking I could make up a cable with a switch to break that contact, and 'virtually' disconnect the headset when I want the radio, or need the microphone active during a call.

You could try this program. It seems to be a virtual switch between the earpiece and external speaker. I use it a a solution for skype and other voip programs that only work through the external speaker, but the works the other way as well.

headset instaled but need phone mic allways enable
Hello,
Kaysee_sw said:
The other main problem is if I have MP3 and TomTom all through the stereo, and I get a call, I can hear the call over the stereo, but can't speak, as the Diamond is expecting an external microphone.
I guess what I need is a utility to force only the internal microphone to be used, and to allow me to force the internal speaker when I want to use the radio. It there such a thing?
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I have the same issue of kaisee.
I use the diamond as mp3 player in my car stereo (aux-in) and i need the mic allways available to use the phone without disconect the usb or audio plug.
In my old magician this worked just fine becouse the mic was allways available.
Is the .exe posted by dctech the answer(thanks man) ? has anybody tested ? is it reliable or there is another solution?
Thanks

You need a proper bluetooth car kit to allow this. Parrot ones are very good. If you want to listen to music as well as phone calls and sat nav i would suggest that you get one with both handset and A2DP bluetooth profiles. There is a workaround app you can use to get music through a car kit with just a handset or headset profile but the quality is mono and very poor

Advice. Best way to get music to the car?

I'm just curious what would be the best way to get all of the new music on my Captivate onto my car speakers when driving. I have built in bluetooth in the car and would love if there is a way to use a software solution to stream the music. If that's not possible I'm a bit lost on what the preferred method would be. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
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Here's what I found with a quick google search:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10460099-48.html
Scroll down to the bluetooth section and there is a "setup" portion

If your BT stereo supports A2DP, then just stream from the Cappy to the radio. I do that and it sounds great. I also have a 3.5mm jack on the front, but that is an analog signal and the difference in sound quality, while slight, is noticeable. My car radio links automatically with my phone when I get in (so long as BT is enabled on the phone) and both hands-free and BT audio profiles are connected. All I have to do is start the music player on the phone and the radio switches input automatically. It also switches to phone profile and pauses the music player when a call comes in.

Thanks for both of the responses.
I'll have to check the link in a minute and I'll have to research about my BT connection supporting A2DP as well, but I appreciate the options. Hopefully one will work.
I'm really hoping the A2DP option works, that would be ideal for me, but it is a VW factory BT option that's on the car, so I'm not sure how sophisticated it is.
I'll try to remember to get back here with a post, in the event someone in the future stumbles on this thread looking for the same advice.

Auxiliary cable?
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Auxiliary cable?
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I have a Captivate running a custom ROM with a custom Kernel.
There had been some grumblings about the speaker port not working correctly for quite a while, but I think they have now resolved it.
I wasn't sure if this was going to be an issue, so I was hoping for something along the lines of a BT connection solution.
Unfortunately, I just read the following piece of garbage info from a different site:
Audio streaming is NOT Supported on 2010 Passat, EOS, Tiguan, CC, Jetta TDI sedan or Touareg
Looks like Aux. cable for me.

evoic said:
Unfortunately, I just read the following piece of garbage info from a different site:
Audio streaming is NOT Supported on 2010 Passat, EOS, Tiguan, CC, Jetta TDI sedan or Touareg
Looks like Aux. cable for me.
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Man, that's too bad. You'd think a 2010 vehicle would be up to date with the tech. I know some older cars were hands-free profile only because A2DP was not widespread, but a 2010 not having it is just silly. My radio is an aftermarket Sony I bought in 2009 and it not only supports music streamin via BT and has a 3.5mm AUX input, it has a USB port that I can put a thumbdrive with music in and a port in the back for an iPod (if I was stupid enough to own one and pay for the optional cable) and it also has HD radio. VW is usually further forward than most imports. Oh well, at least you can do the cable thing. Get a quality one, some cheapies are known to short contacts and cause problems.

I use a AUX input in my car and it works pretty well. The only complaint I really have is the sound is at a lot lower volume than radio and mini-usb port.

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I use a AUX input in my car and it works pretty well. The only complaint I really have is the sound is at a lot lower volume than radio and mini-usb port.
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Not to point out the obvious, but you do realize that the AUX port is multi-volumed.....right?
You turn up the volume on your handset AND you turn up the volume on your car stereo.
From what I've read, it appears you should turn your "media volume" up to 50-80% and leave it there, then use your car stereo volume button to alter the overall volume.
If it's still not loud enough from there, either you have a short or something is up with your output.
Your ears should be bleeding.

evoic said:
Not to point out the obvious, but you do realize that the AUX port is multi-volumed.....right?
You turn up the volume on your handset AND you turn up the volume on your car stereo.
From what I've read, it appears you should turn your "media volume" up to 50-80% and leave it there, then use your car stereo volume button to alter the overall volume.
If it's still not loud enough from there, either you have a short or something is up with your output.
Your ears should be bleeding.
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Yea, I turn the volume up all the way on my phone whenever I plug it in. It was the same way when I used my iPod Touch.
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Nexus6 hard-wired car dock help.

I am thinking of replacing the stereo in my car with a dock for my Nexus6. I was going to just buy a new head unit for Bluetooth connectivity and hands free calling on the road. Then i thought why spend money on adding a layer between me and my phone since i don't use my radio anyway.
I have seen lots of write ups and videos of how to replace your stereo with a tablet. But the one thing I have never seen anyone do is add hands free calling for their phone.
I am hoping someone can tell me how to wire a mic in to a USB cable as I also take audio out to run to an amp and power in back to the phone. I am aware I will not have fade control just balance and I am good with that.
I am aware that I will need to run the output to an amp and my Jeep has one from the factory. I am not worried about wiring in a converter to supply power and already have one that charges the phone while using gps and play music at the same time and a dedicated fused circuit activated by relay so there are no issues with battery drain. I will build a custom dock with a USB cable mounted in it in the dash in place of the removed stereo. I plan on using one of the wired mics you use with an aftermarket pioneer stereo mounted on the dash. The specs for it are Polar pattern: Omni directional Mic diameter's 9.7*4.5mm Sensitivity:-47dB+/-2dB Frequency Range: 20-20KHz Output Impedance: ≤2.2 kΩ SNR: >58dB Standard Operation Voltage: 4.5V Operation Voltage: 1.0V-10V.DC Wire Length: 4 M Ref Pioneer part no: CPM1064 CPM1084
What I need is someone to please show me how to splice the cable so I can add rca connectors to audio out, mic in, and power in and have it work. Or if that can't be done I can add a qi charger to the dock if I can wire the speaker out and mic in as a usb headset and make that work. Or if I need to add a signal booster to the mic input to make it work please say so and give me specs to go find one.
Thank you in advance for any help or useful suggestions.

Rmcrow2 said:
I am thinking of replacing the stereo in my car with a dock for my Nexus6. ......
I am aware that I will need to run the output to an amp and my Jeep has one from the factory......
any help or useful suggestions.
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A hard card case or soft case with a metal 1 cm below the M-logo. A neodymium magnet on the dashboard. No car kit needed. The speaker of the N6 is loud enough for use in a car for navigation and phone. Same with microphone.
Option is to use a phone jack converter to connect the N6 output to the radio.
An example how I used my N7 in the car.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2137636/ - post #65
Note my N6 case has metal at the outside and below the M-logo, because behind the logo is a magnet sensor that switches off the screen.

Thank you, but I have children. I need to be able to play music, and their moms voice through the car speakers on long drives.
The car I prefer to drive is also noisy and my phone can't always hear me when it is in the dash mount.
What I want is just to make a wired connection to a mic, speakers, and power, through the micro USB port. So I get in the car, plug my phone in, and slide it into a permanent holder.
Money matters and this would be free, also convient since all my stereo did was get music and calls from my phone anyway.
I know how to wire in a Bluetooth reviever for the audio, and a qi charger so that would be wireless but I don't know how to get a mic input back to the phone, none of the premade affordable receivers I have seen have a mic input.
And I am aware I could take audio out and in from the 3.5 jack and either go wireless for the charging or have to plug in two cords in I get in the car.
I appreciate your help but I am looking for help to reach a specific solution that will be best for me.

Rmcrow2 said:
but I don't know how to get a mic input back to the phone, none of the premade affordable receivers I have seen have a mic input.
I appreciate your help but I am looking for help to reach a specific solution that will be best for me.
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I assumed already that you were looking for a custom and cheap solution, that's why I gave you mine. Just for the possibility you will get an idea.
About the microphone.
Wired headsets with earphones and microphone are normally connected to the 3,5-jack.
I think the mic-input-connector is there and not in the USB connector of the N6.
The N6 is not that different compared with other smartphones.
There are adapters available Google '3,5 inch headset adapter'

You are right in that there are dedicated connections already at the jack, and that they would be easy to just splice leads onto a standard wired headset to extend to where I want the leads to go. Even if i need to add a signal booster to the mic line.
My wife has a usb headset that works fine with my phone though so I know the capability is there, as with audio out on a usb connection to a stereo.
She wont let me cut up her headset to see what goes where though and it takes a while to get one from china. I was hoping someone knew so I could use what I have on hand rather than spending anything, I am cheap.
Thanks for your help, i have used my phone for music and handsfree when it's just me in the car on short hops. It does work fine for that and as a portable music player anywhere not to loud without any problems.
Once again thank you.

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She wont let me cut up her headset to see what goes where .
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https://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl...bNAhWH2xoKHRsUCi4QMwg_KBkwGQ&iact=mrc&uact=8/

Thank you. I spent my time researching if anyone has put an Android auto onto Raspberry Pi and stuck it in there car and I haven't Googled for the pan out yet because I haven't had time to rip open the dash in my car thank you I appreciate that period I'm having to voice text right now so please forgive me for poor grammar and spelling

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... so please forgive me for poor grammar and spelling
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You're welcome. It was nice to meet you.