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Multiple Batteries

I have my stock 1300mah and bought the 1750mah which I am far less thrilled with than others (it is longer, but not much). I note some people like the idea of having multiple batteries, but my view of the Incredible cover, and the tiny hooks that keep it in place, is that one is better off not opening and closing it too much. Am I incorrect here?

jdmba said:
I have my stock 1300mah and bought the 1750mah which I am far less thrilled with than others (it is longer, but not much). I note some people like the idea of having multiple batteries, but my view of the Incredible cover, and the tiny hooks that keep it in place, is that one is better off not opening and closing it too much. Am I incorrect here?
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I would tend to agree with you, I used to change batteries quite often on my Touch Pro 2 but after the tabs broke off the second cover I stopped unless absolutely neccessary.

jdmba said:
I have my stock 1300mah and bought the 1750mah which I am far less thrilled with than others (it is longer, but not much). I note some people like the idea of having multiple batteries, but my view of the Incredible cover, and the tiny hooks that keep it in place, is that one is better off not opening and closing it too much. Am I incorrect here?
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I also got the Seido 1750 battery but it was a big improvement for me... i used to have to charge my phone every night and it would be dead by the end of the day from like a 9am to 10pm spread.. now with the seido one it goes a day and a half before dying

Hmmmmmmmm
Joe92T said:
now with the seido one it goes a day and a half before dying
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You and I are running VERY different apps, I guess. Mine is in my pocket the whole day, albeit in a very old steel and concrete building. I suspect battery drain has a lot to do with signal, anyway.
I am running BatteryTime Lite, which I know is a bad idea; and I do pull email and weather every hour or so; but I could never do a day and a half.

Joe92T said:
I also got the Seido 1750 battery but it was a big improvement for me... i used to have to charge my phone every night and it would be dead by the end of the day from like a 9am to 10pm spread.. now with the seido one it goes a day and a half before dying
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My experience with the Seidio is about the same as yours.
I used my Touch Pro 2 battery for a few days and definately an improvement. I just didn't like the way it fit in the incredible so I ordered the one that's made for the phone (haven't got it yet).
jdmba said:
You and I are running VERY different apps, I guess. Mine is in my pocket the whole day, albeit in a very old steel and concrete building. I suspect battery drain has a lot to do with signal, anyway.
I am running BatteryTime Lite, which I know is a bad idea; and I do pull email and weather every hour or so; but I could never do a day and a half.
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I can get about a day and a half out of mine with the stock battery in it. That's with light to moderate useage, 4 or 5 calls a day, 3 or 4 texts and about a dozen emails (plus I probably just play with it for at least an hour or so). I have it set to download weather and email every hour. I don't know if it makes a difference but I turn of Bluetooth unless I am using it and I only use the wifi when in my office with a good connection.

Update - Seidio 175 mAh Battery
OK, I received my Seidio battery and have only ran 2 charges through it but here is my experience so far...
With my normal usage I get approximately 1 1/2 days from the stock battery and it is DEAD.
I have the Seidio battery in now and I took it off the charger yesterday morning, it is now 11:00am here and my battery is at 66%.
I don't know about you but in my eyes that is a major improvement!
A note on the Seidio battery:
It is not the same battery as their Touch Pro 2 battery, it fits better. I used the touch Pro 2 battery in it for a day or 2 but regardless of what everybody is saying, the Touch Pro 2 battery doesn't fit right in my books.
Sure, it fits in the phone and you can put the battery door on it just fine but it is tight.
When you really notice it is taking the cover off with the Touch Pro 2 battery in the Incredible. It is hard to get the cover off. Maybe it's just me but I would rather spend the extra money on the right battery than have to replace the cover because the very fragile little tabs that hold it on have broken off from being over stressed.
Just my 2 cents worth, I'm sure the results will vary with other users.
I currently work out of my home and have a good strong wifi connection, the above test is with wifi on for the entire time, and Bluetooth off when not in use (not really sure if that matters yet). I only use bluetooth when I go some where in my truck so I had it on for about an hour yesterday.

Extended batteries (3500mah in this case)

Well... so far I've ordered a 3500mah extended battery from Hong Kong.. but as I believe this will take rather a long time to get here... I've ordered another one from the UK as well from ECELL, which apparently has a silver extended cover.
I'm well aware that these are likely cack batteries and I have a plan for that
Basically I'm hoping that whichever one I consider to be the worst will either die on me... or I will simply end it's life prematurely. I am going to cut open the battery (Carefully!) and try to replace the cell's with two Genuine OEM 1500 mah batteries, for a true 3000mah. I bit elaborate but I think it should be possible as long as I cut in the right places.
EDIT: I found genuine LG batteries for about £8.50 each plus about £5 postage, so will order 2 batteries for around £22. They are special order though, so will take 14-28 days. (I am also getting them to confirm the capacity is defo 1500mah, as no point buying them otherwise.)
Update: Images in post #29 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23120430&postcount=29

Well.. I was getting a little impatient... so when I was really tired (and may just a little to drink), I ordered one from ECELL on ebay. It had a silver cover and a 3600mah battery (We all know it isn't that much), and was listed for the 2x P990. Turns up.. it's for the LG Optimus S :-( Bummer. Just trying to get a return/refund.
So... experiment is delayed somewhat.
Update: Two LG OEM batteries have been ordered ; The incorrect extended battery sent back ; Still awaiting the HK Extended battery. Bizarrely I thought I actually ordered a 2nd UK based battery.. but I was so tired I think I forgot to do it lol. Can't wait to have a play with these

Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )

Sounds really interesting.. keep us updated please!
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Scougar said:
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
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i got the 2400Mah battery(2 days of usage) i'm looking forward for you're results
specially the modded one pictures will also be great if u can.
thanks!

Apparently the LG batteries have been dispatched now, so should get them within a few days. Only annoying thing is that even LG were unable to confirm whether these batteries I'm getting are 1500mah. I will be gutted if they are not lol.
btw.. you should see my desk at present at home. I have about 5 phones, four of them in bits awaiting tinkering, LED bike lights (all modified), circuit boards from laptops everywhere, reparing a 4x 18650 battery pack + routers etc lol. And I just realised that I actually don't know where my soldering iron is ROFL. Must dig one out.
Anyway... I'm looking forward to it and if I can get it working, I'll put up pics etc. I'm very interested in trying to get the temp sensor working (although I realise it may only work for one of the batteries.).
P.s. as for extended cases and covers I bought this w w w.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Black-Trim-Rubber-Case-Cover-LCD-Film-Pro-LG-Optimus-2X-G2X-/180782656771?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesP ouches&hash=item2a177c6d03 and then cut out the back clear part. It's not a perfect fit, but it will work for the moment (Buy at your own risk.. I actually stretched mine too much when getting the clear part out).

Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.

Scougar said:
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
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Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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shpapy said:
Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.

Scougar said:
Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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no doubt it could be an expensive mistake, but if u succeed which i think you will the results will be probably a 4 day battery. so i think its worth it
i got the 2450Mah battery and it holds about 2 days with medium usage, so im really thrilled about ure test as i dont care about the size of the phone,
if you can share pictures it will be great you can also p.m if u want!!
thanks.
Shpapy.

No problem, will do
I charged the battery again last night, and rapid drained it running bluetooth (nothing connected), some GPS usage and wifi with smartshare running a video across from my NAS drive. In the morning it was down to about 25 percent so tried GPS on cycle to work and then drained it with music and GPS until 1%. Charged it without using it, and it's reporting about 1900mah estimated for the battery. I don't rate the estimator as highly accurate btw, but it's a guide .
I will try to take the battery apart tonight if I can. Not sure on best way to open it though, as I will need to reuse the carcass.

Damn.. was taking it apart and fried the circuit it came with. Unfortunately the metal legs that bring power from either side slipped off and touch the outer shell of the battery, was enough for a small yellow spark :-( oh well. (EDIT: Hmm.. circuit may still be alive actually...)
It's two batteries pressed together with several layers of thin plastic between them, either for insulation, spacing or both. I'm actually pretty surprised the cells weren't isolated better from each other.
Update 1: Well, for the first time.. I just managed to burn myself with electricity opps. These packs are really badly isolated. Shorted it on the tip of my finger... beginning to hurt lol. There are NO ratings on these batteries whatsoever. However, one thing they are is... amazingly well balanced. Just measured them and they are both exactly 3.78V's.
Update 2: The circuit and LG Battery will NOT fit directly into the old casing. There will need to either a mod to the extended casing, or we'll just have to 'go without', and make a casing up. It's looking like it's best to do without using the old battery at all actually, and just wire the two batteries together using the LG circuitry. (Well only one of the circuits).
Update 3: Will dig out the soldering iron tonight and get this double battery running
Update 4: Have VERY BADLY soldered the batteries together and combined battery is now charging in the phone. Due to the excess solder on the sides the battery is not quite proper fit, so I will have to redo it at some point. Really very dissappointed with how awful the soldering is, I will simply HAVE to redo it once this experiment is tested. Any tips on a soldering iron chaps? On the plus side, the one thing I do get is a temperature reading :-D
Tip number 1: Quickly snip the circuit off first and DO NOT let it touch the side of the battery casing, it will short out.
TIp number 2: h t t p://www.technfun.com/pages/article.php?id=22 Excellent guide. Take note of the safety tip!!!!
Points of interest
A) The extended battery is EXACTLY double the width of an LG battery.
B) LG OEM Batteries are made by Sanyo
C) Don't use a conventional soldering iron... it is almost impossible to solder the negative side and you will end up overheating the battery if you are not careful. (Any tips here guys?)

Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.

Scougar said:
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
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cool progress , can we get some pictures of the new battery?
how were u able to fit it in? i get u got a bigger case but still....
share with us ure images / knowledge its sounds really cool doing.

I basically copied what they had done on the 3500mah battery, and merely connected up the positive to positive and negative to negative terminals of the batteries using thin strips of metal, and only used one circuit from the LG battery. Basically I parallel the batteries to increase capacity.
I used a small spacer to keep the batteries seperated, but thinking about it, I could have use the bodies themselves as the 'negative' but it wouldn't have been a good connection). I then just taped the battery up and use the 3500mah battery sticker to hold it all together.
This really is just a 'prove it works' / prototype, and I will remake it neater, although I may have to buy a better soldering iron.
Pics later.
Note: After charging back up from 1% this morning to 100%, the 'estimated' mah by Battery Widget Pro is 1551mah. This would indicate to me that one battery is not connected properly unfortunately. I'm gonna run the battery and see how long it lasts under general usage. If it lasts only a day and a half, then I suspect I will have to resolder.

I bought a 3500mah half a year back and it wasn't any good. Twice the width but lasts the same as the original one. It'll be good if you could show us some pictures? I may consider making one too!

To be fair the estimated capacity of the 3500mah was around 1800 to 2000 mah. Pretty good considering it came with an extended back cover for under £5. It does seem entirely random though, and I was never comfortable without a temperature sensor.
The work I have done so far is rubbish to be honest. I thought I'd make a better job of soldering. I will have to redo it, as the fit is terrible due to the solder being too big/messy, and the connections are not very or or not working/broken.

Can't wait to see the results.
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For some reason, battery widget pro was recording very high mah draw/drain. I do not believe I soldered the negative terminals well enough. I took it apart and tried to prise a little flap of metal up for soldering, and managed to rip the terminal off the pack. I will do my best to remedy this of course and let you chaps know the result.

I also have the 3500 mAH and I was wondering if it was really giving 3500 mAH. I'm getting about 1.5 days on this battery with moderate usage. Heavy usage I get about a day. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I think it's supposed to last longer.

Mophie LG G4 Juice pack test results

Here is a link for a test on bandwidth and RF differences with Mophie battery case for the G4 as compared to no case and a clear lion case:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6832-lg-g4-user-thread-was-rumor-thread/page-16
(would have reported it here but was having difficulty getting the charts to display in reasonable form.)

dyeager said:
Here is a link for a test on bandwidth and RF differences with Mophie battery case for the G4 as compared to no case and a clear lion case:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6832-lg-g4-user-thread-was-rumor-thread/page-16
(would have reported it here but was having difficulty getting the charts to display in reasonable form.)
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The case battery is horrible. No way this gives 80% more and it heats the phone up a lot. was told by mophie that I should use case when phone is not in use. I dislike the fact that it is slippery. they need to step up the game.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4

Only 450 mAh more than stock? Why would I want a bulkier phone for that?

flamadiddle said:
Only 450 mAh more than stock? Why would I want a bulkier phone for that?
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I'm not sure about your math. The mophie has a 3450 mAh battery, so that would be a full 3450 MORE than the internal battery. Since it is an external battery and all.
Also, I have had zero issues with my Mophie. No heating issues or signal issues. FWIW.

spongers said:
I'm not sure about your math. The mophie has a 3450 mAh battery, so that would be a full 3450 MORE than the internal battery. Since it is an external battery and all.
Also, I have had zero issues with my Mophie. No heating issues or signal issues. FWIW.
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D'oh, I was thinking it replaced the stock battery. That makes a lot more sense now.

Why would you waste your money on this piece of crap? Maybe for the s6 or iPhone. But we have removeable batteries that's the whole point. You could've easily got 2 maybe even 3 batteries for the price of that case.
1. Not wait for a charge
2. Not causing additional heat
3. Keep it slim.

bodom_hc said:
Why would you waste your money on this piece of crap? Maybe for the s6 or iPhone. But we have removeable batteries that's the whole point. You could've easily got 2 maybe even 3 batteries for the price of that case.
1. Not wait for a charge
2. Not causing additional heat
3. Keep it slim.
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Why would you post such a crappy post without actually trying the product? First off, extra batteries are nice and all but you actually have to turn the phone off to replace the battery, that's a waste of time. Secondly, how would you know it causes additional heat? Mine doesn't and I use it everyday. And guess what? I can charge the phone and the battery pack with one cable, all at the same time.
To each his own, so maybe you should bite your tounge and not post such blatantly blasphemous posts and let others form their own opinions.

My second case going back for a refund. rather have a good quality case and battery in pocket then a slippery phone that one day would end up breaking.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4

To my surprise, I have not had heat issues with the g4 with or without the Mophie case, even when doing more than on my G2, which did have overheating issues. I agree that the Mophie should have more texture for a better grip on this case.

Proper comparison cost wise is an extra battery and a case since Mophie supplies both. I did find the case very easy to remove, although I would always keep it on. I do like the sound being redirected to the front.
I measured signal because many wireless charger backs have been shown to dramatically affect performance. In the FCC documents, most manufacturers are no longer releasing their antenna diagrams. If you have signal issues with the Mophie juice pack case, hold it vertical.
I have found that a 2.4 car charger is not enough for the LG G4 (I swapped charges and USB cable as well), nor can the Mophie case make up that power difference. However this excessive power situation was resolved by reducing the number of active apps by one and rebooting to kill a runaway Google service.
I did consider extended batteries, but then you must go caseless to the best of my knowledge.
With the replacement batteries you must also remember to carry them and you risk breaking the back cover with repeated use.
It really depends on how often you need extra battery power as to whether the Mophie case is worth it, plus the caveats and benefits listed above by all.

spongers said:
Why would you post such a crappy post without actually trying the product? First off, extra batteries are nice and all but you actually have to turn the phone off to replace the battery, that's a waste of time. Secondly, how would you know it causes additional heat? Mine doesn't and I use it everyday. And guess what? I can charge the phone and the battery pack with one cable, all at the same time.
To each his own, so maybe you should bite your tounge and not post such blatantly blasphemous posts and let others form their own opinions.
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Agreed with other guy.
Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
Hence why these are causing the phones to heat up.

player911 said:
Agreed with other guy.
Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
Hence why these are causing the phones to heat up.
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Except you're wrong. This case has a switch which the user controls. The switch dictates whether the case is charging the phone or not. So when you don't need it, its not charging, and thus not heating up the phone.
Again, if you actually have used the case before you would know this.

I just picked up this case yesterday and I really like it. Although the material is a tad slippery, the finish is a bit softer than normal plastic covers so it does feel pretty nice in my hand. Super bulky but I did come from a Nexus 6 so I don't mind and the reroute on the speakers to the front is pretty cool too as that was something I missed from my Nexus.

player911 said:
Battery case is not optimal. Basically this battery is charging the OEM internal battery.... constantly.... which will end up killing your OEM battery.
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Right, this is what typically kills laptop batteries much before their time. That constant charging.
player911 said:
The best solution would be to remove the OEM battery and replace it with a 6000mAh battery/custom backplate that snaps on.
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That is what i thought was going on. replace the original with an extended. Nope.
Instead they are treating this thing as if it has a non-removable battery. Bad design.
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Except you're wrong. This case has a switch which the user controls. The switch dictates whether the case is charging the phone or not. So when you don't need it, its not charging, and thus not heating up the phone.
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How often you do that per day ?
this is more of a hassle than replacing the battery.

One Twelve said:
Right, this is what typically kills laptop batteries much before their time. That constant charging.
That is what i thought was going on. replace the original with an extended. Nope.
Instead they are treating this thing as if it has a non-removable battery. Bad design.
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How often you do that per day ?
this is more of a hassle than replacing the battery.
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Really? Sliding a switch is more of a hassle than powering off your phone, replacing the battery and waiting for it to boot back up? Your definition of hassle is WAY different than mine.
I only have to do this once a day, when my battery gets down to around 30%, and it charges it up all the way and has about 40% left on the external battery itself.
Again I say, how do you know it is a hassle if you haven't actually tried it?

This juice pack case is for travel use mostly. Hiking or cruising low signal is the one that drain the battery the most.
People who complain this is an impractical item without owning don't really understand who needs it. Sure you can swap batteries since this device has removable back to replace batteries. But what if you are on important phone call? Or got lost somewhere where you can't really stop the vehicle but battery is going low and don't have the time to stop/shutdown/replace battery/ turn on/ open apps? What if you are in time constrain situation (emergencies) that you must keep your phone alive? This juice pack can offer that quick and simple just by switching on.
Sure external battery does it exactly the same with far less price, but the convenience make up for the price. I cant really justify with the $99 but a case that with built in battery? Some might think it's a good price.
Sorry for the long post.
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Really? Sliding a switch is more of a hassle than powering off your phone, replacing the battery and waiting for it to boot back up? Your definition of hassle is WAY different than mine.
I only have to do this once a day, when my battery gets down to around 30%, and it charges it up all the way and has about 40% left on the external battery itself.
Again I say, how do you know it is a hassle if you haven't actually tried it?
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How do you know a broken leg gives you a hard time walking, if you never had it broken? The answer - common sense. In other words, your arguments aren't really that.
This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..

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How do you know a broken leg gives you a hard time walking, if you never had it broken? The answer - common sense. In other words, your arguments aren't really that.
This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..
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Your logic is absolutely baffling to me. But whatever, to each is own. All I am saying is don't bash something you haven't tried. You have no clue what you are talking about, and it makes you look unintelligent.

sharpehenry said:
This juice pack case is for travel use mostly. Hiking or cruising low signal is the one that drain the battery the most.
People who complain this is an impractical item without owning don't really understand who needs it. Sure you can swap batteries since this device has removable back to replace batteries. But what if you are on important phone call? Or got lost somewhere where you can't really stop the vehicle but battery is going low and don't have the time to stop/shutdown/replace battery/ turn on/ open apps? What if you are in time constrain situation (emergencies) that you must keep your phone alive? This juice pack can offer that quick and simple just by switching on.
Sure external battery does it exactly the same with far less price, but the convenience make up for the price. I cant really justify with the $99 but a case that with built in battery? Some might think it's a good price.
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ok so that is the use case this is specfically designed for.
Sorry for the long post.
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Never apologise for that
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0rigin said:
This case is useless for everyday use, compared to an extra battery. Instead of using a slick phone with a nice size/screen size ratio, it turns it into an awkward brick. Ok I understand using it occasionally while traveling, like an external battery if you don't wanna take your back off...
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And that is the use case i amongst others are looking at it from.
Still don't get it though why they make these for phones with removable batteries..
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always on. if you don't need that then this isn't the right product.

Just picked up one of these from the AT&T store because they had cleared them out for $10.
Anyway, it seems good so far, and the textured rubber/plastic material seems like a good grip.
Also this battery pack is great for me, because I play this game called Ingress and when you are with groups you quickly walk from one GPS location to the next, and you are constantly needing to take actions on the phone, so you don't have any opportunity to actually shut down your phone for a battery swap. I think external battery augmentation, like this mophie provides, is perfect for playing Ingress on walk-about missions with groups.
And as Spongers so valiantly tried to point out above, yes there is a nice easy to use switch that lets you keep the battery pack off while you use the phone's internal battery, and then easily just flick the switch to turn on the mophie to recharge your phone. Mophie even helpfully points out in the instructions that this technique optimizes overall battery life between the mophie and the phone, because you spend only half the time recharging (total time split between draining only the phone's battery with mophie off, then draining the mophie after turning it on after phone's battery is low), instead of the entire time (where you would keep the mophie turned on all the time, generate more recharging phone heat/waste during the entire drains of both batteries).
Anyway, yeah I like it. Check if your local AT&T stores have any in stock, because it's a steal at $10. My store only had one left, or I would have bought all of them.

ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery Review

I have had the ZeroLemon 8500mAh battery and case for a week now.
The day I received it, I charged it to 100% and left it on the charger for an additional 3 hours as the instructions say.
I have a moto 360 connected to this phone all the time, and used a set of Plantronics Backbeat GO 2 bluetooth earbuds about 4 hours per day.
The very first charge I went 4 days without charging and ended up with 9.5 hours screen on time.
I left the brightness on 100% and had 2 email accounts on push as well as the usual Facebook, weather and other apps syncing.
I use my phone for both work and personal use so it had some heavy use.
I have been going 2 days now on the second charge and it sits at 78%.
As for the size of the case on the phone. It honestly is much smaller than I was expecting.
You can look at the pictures I have attached and see it is no bigger than an OtterBox Defender, it is just more square and not rounded.
The case does look like it would protect from small drops (desk height) and scuffs.
The front does sit a bit above the glass to keep the glass from ever touching anything when you set it down.
All of the openings and ports line up correctly and are big enough for normal use with no issues.
The speaker port is on the bottom of the phone instead of the back making for less muffled sounds when placed on a table.
The rear buttons are well placed and easy to use.
The case itself adds texture and does not feel near as slippery as the original backs.
Overall I would recommend this case to anyone who has to charge their phone throughout the day or who can benefit from multiple days between charges.
I can honestly say that the only (and this is minor) problem I found was the ports on the bottom of the phone allow dust ingress to the battery compartment.
Other than that, this is the perfect extended battery/case for your LG G4.
Case Dimension: 6.07" H x 3.15" W x 0.84" T
Case Weight with battery: 178g
Total Weight with phone, extended battery and case: 282.4g
10/10
I received this case in exchange for an honest review.

How long does it take to fully charge it? I don't think this battery support the Quick Charge 2.0 and I have noticed that it takes quite a while to charge the normal battery, sometimes up to 4 hours with a 5V 2.1A charger. I just ordered (had to) a Quick Charge 2.0 charger hoping I can reduce the total time to at least half that time.
I don't mind leaving it on an entire night every 4 days, but it kinds of worry me that if I ever get this it will take a huge time charing it.

pakitos said:
How long does it take to fully charge it? I don't think this battery support the Quick Charge 2.0 and I have noticed that it takes quite a while to charge the normal battery, sometimes up to 4 hours with a 5V 2.1A charger. I just ordered (had to) a Quick Charge 2.0 charger hoping I can reduce the total time to at least half that time.
I don't mind leaving it on an entire night every 4 days, but it kinds of worry me that if I ever get this it will take a huge time charing it.
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It took mine about 3 hours to reach 100% and then the directions state to let it charge for an additional 3 hours after it hits 100% to be fully charged.
So about 6 hours. I do as you described, every 3 or 4 days, depending on usage, I will fully charge the battery.
No it does not seem to support quick charge.

Holy mother of battery life! 8H SOT and still rocking 45%

pakitos said:
Holy mother of battery life! 8H SOT and still rocking 45%
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All WiFi
Battery still calibrating though as percentage goes up alot when screen is off

Milimbar said:
I have had the ZeroLemon 8500mAh battery and case for a week now.
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How much does it weigh in gms ?

NFC or wireless charging?
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partylikeaninjastar said:
NFC or wireless charging?
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No

Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.

dontbeweakvato said:
Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.
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Case Dimension: 6.07X3.15X0.84 inches
So a little over 3/4" thick, just about twice as thick
I will add this to the review

dontbeweakvato said:
Hey @Milimbar i thought about getting it because I'm basically out I the field working all day and I like to listen to iHeartRadio. My job can be very dirty and hard sometimes so I need a tough case . The other extended battery cases seeing very crappy protective wise. The zerolemon case seems very good in that respect. The only thing holding me back is the thickness. Would you say it is twice the thickness of the g4? Elaborate on the thickness please.
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It's about it the same thickness as an otterbox

Does it stay at 1% FOR DAYS
BADASS NOTE 5 & 4 & LG G4

My review- 4 out of 5
Rather than spam the accessories board with my own review I thought I would post mine here.
Incredible battery life (comparison to stock battery screenshots included). Minimal to moderate increase in thickness considering the battery rating (8500 mAh). It's actually not much bigger/thicker than an otterbox case (picture included). I honestly can't say enough about how great the battery life of my LG G4 is with this. Seriously I spent last Sunday trying my best to drain it in a day and couldn't, and the battery life has only gotten better over the first 4 full charge cycles (per zerolemon it takes 6 cycles to achieve max performance). Seriously after one day I wouldn't have recommended it (size and bulk with moderate battery gain), after two days it began to grow on me (as battery life improved), and now I will use this battery all the time (why stop gaming to swap batteries?). When I did nothing but play DS emulator games all day (almost 12 hrs) and still had 30+ percent left when the stock battery only managed just a bit over 4 hrs and was at 15% made me a believer in this battery (battery saver just kicked on but by the time I took a screenshot the battery showed 1% more - common when doing something that drains a battery quickly over a long period of time).
Recharge times aren't that bad- it's always at 100% when I wake up and sometimes that's been only after 6 hours. I haven't actually kept track of the recharge time but it's surely not 12 hours or anything ridiculous. I would bet it's in the 3-5 hour range.
So if it's so great, why only 4/5?
Well, for starters, I am constantly pressing the wrong button on the back of my phone. I don't think it would have been too difficult to add a little bump or something for finger orientation (a small speck of plastic on the power button would have been great). I'm pressing Vol + or Vol - when I want to press the power button, or pressing the power button when wanting something else - which I have resorted to actually turning the phone over and looking at the buttons first. I also don't think the case was designed for anything but to hold the battery to the back of the phone. Don't expect it to save your G4 if you drop it on concrete. The sides flex out a bit quite easily, so I would imagine that your phone will pop out of the case if dropped (likely removing the zerolemon battery in the process). So the battery is great, but the case could be better/more rigid/more refined (thus 4/5 for the case quality and lack of attention to detail in its design).
Size is substantial as I stated, and even though it was less than I expected, I was sad that my phone doesn't comfortably fit in my Moga Pro Power anymore. It's doable, but angled funny. Not a deal breaker.
One other thing to note is you will be without NFC using this battery. The NFC sticker is inside the factory back cover, so anyone who uses android pay/wallet will no longer be able to do so. I personally don't use NFC at all, so I won't miss anything.
Full disclosure: I received this item from ZeroLemon for free in exchange for an honest review of this item (thanks again ZeroLemon).

BACARDILIMON said:
Does it stay at 1% FOR DAYS
BADASS NOTE 5 & 4 & LG G4
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Mine turns off at 1% stays on 3 alot

I just bought one a few days ago. It most definitely has NFC. It was something I made sure of. Look at the Product Description. http://smile.amazon.com/LG-G4-ZeroL...id=1443081974&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g4

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I just bought one a few days ago. It most definitely has NFC. It was something I made sure of. Look at the Product Description. http://smile.amazon.com/LG-G4-ZeroL...id=1443081974&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g4
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Mine doesn't have nfc.

I do not think mine has NFC either.
I will check when I get home, but there are no contacts on the battery to match up with the contacts on the phone for NFC.
I checked, and it defiantly does not have NFC on the battery I received.
That does not mean that they did not change it between when mine was made and what is currently for sale.
I doubt it though as they sent me this one to review. It is more probable that the listing is in error.

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Case Dimension: 6.07X3.15X0.84 inches
So a little over 3/4" thick, just about twice as thick
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weight in gms ?
anyone else want to answer this its an important question. How much weight does this thing add.

178G
Remember that does not mean it adds 178g.
You remove the original back and battery and replace them with the extended battery and case.
Rough guess the phone with the extended battery and case is a little over double the original weight.

Review: ZEROLEMON 3500 Slim Power battery + TPU case

First off let me say that I was provided this case free of charge for my honest review of the product. First off I'll list the pros and then the cons of the case
I also did a full video review here https://youtu.be/l0LRHzFdsVU
Pros:
More than double the battery life of stock
Well designed
Feels good in the hand
Cons:
Wireless charging doesn't work
Spen harder to remove
Bulky

Mines coming up as well.. Pros/cons are basically the same..

I have been using this case for several days now, and I can report that it is a very well made product. The case is surprisingly easy to slip onto the phone, but feels secure once in place. It adds bulk, but no more than my 2 piece heavy duty case that I had been using. The biggest difference is that it does add a bit of weight, although it is quite manageable. I normally take my phone off of the charger at 6:30a.m. and put it back on around 11p.m. with about 15% charge left. While using the Zerolemon battery pack I managed to make it from 6:30 in the morning on a Monday all the way until noon on Wednesday. A full 55.5 hours without plugging in! I may not use this case every single day with the added weight, but is definitely something that I will be using on travel days, and long weekends. It has more battery power, and the case offers significantly more protection than the much more expensive competition. I would definitely recommend this product to those that are looking for more power when you are not near an outlet.

Lancerz said:
Pros:
More than double the battery life of stock
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What do you mean here? I couldn't charge to full from 20% myself.

AndyCr15 said:
What do you mean here? I couldn't charge to full from 20% myself.
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If you leave the phone alone while it's charging with the case you can get to 100%. For example I only use this case when I work 17 hour shifts at work so if I get down to 15% just put the case on and leave it alone you can get to 100%.
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Okay, I think I see what your saying. You can get the stock battery life again, you can double it. I was thinking double stock sounded like it was twice as powerful as the stock battery was all.
Mind you, I don't think mine would. Even accounting in for pretty heavy drain while it was charging, it wouldn't charge from 0 to full.

Does somebody know or has try it this battery fits to Note 3?