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I'm going to try after my test in school and give this a shot as I'm unrooted and on 2.1. However not being familiar with the nexus root method does anyone think that the incredible root method just simply unlock the bootloader anyway? Has anyone tried the incredible root method on their phones yet?
I dont think the root method will have any bearing on the N1 due to the Incredible being CDMA and the Nexus being GSM.
Im not totally positive, but if I remember back When us CDMA Hero users were trying to achieve root the GSM way was unable to get us there.
If im wrong let me know, dont wanna spread around false info.
Oh I didn't know about that. I guess we won't know until someone tries. I want to root anyway and if it does work and unlocks my bootloader.. oh well I tried. It's a busy week so i didn't want to waste my time, but I wanted to try before the official 2.2 update comes out just in case it doesn't work for 2.2.
This is actually a really good idea, think this could work. Don't see how CDMA/GSM factors in here....
Rooting =/= unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting == getting root privileges in OS.
If achievable, it will get you root permissions in OS. It might not give you write access to system partitions, and might not allow you to flash custom images.
The difference between GSM and CDMA is that they're sporting different Snapdragons, thus running different baseband builds, a bug in one doesn't say anything about the other.
Anyway, please update, how did it go - interesting
Tried this for 3 hours yesterday w/ a dev from XDA. He's still working towards it, but its a timing issue. It has to be within a half second timespan with no way of telling when that is. I ended up just breaking my bootloader after I realized I'd rather have root then have us keep trying all day...
HTC gives us this super elegant solution, and you boneheads still try to find a different less effective way.
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HTC gives us this super elegant solution, and you boneheads still try to find a different less effective way.
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It doesn't feel as much like hacking if you're doing it the way they want you to. Totally defeats the point.
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
thanks for the advice..
an explanation as to why would be nice
and an answer to my other inquiries as well if possible..
i do love my hero but if i had an upgrade right now i wouldnt go to a "last gen" phone
evo is a step up from the hero in every spec and is 4G!!!!!
the samsung galaxy will be very comparable to the evo but seems a little faster on the processing side
most of these roms are 2.1 which is complete exept for a couple bugs here and there. The roms that are dev'ing are the 2.2 roms which needs to be made from the ground up.
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
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sweet good for you!
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
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we do have a ton of roms...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
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the custom roms are faster/better than the sprint rom.
the camera works in all the roms as far as i know? there was a time when the camera didn't work because HTC were being Dbags and withholding the kernel source, but toast solved that problem. the only rom atm without camera AFAIK is the froyo dev build.
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
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once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
Thanks..
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welcome.
Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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question 1. besides apps2sd the main reason for booting roms is looks and customization in my oppinion. you can change around the keyboard the lock screen the menu options even remove the terrible bloatware included on the phone. plus an upside is speed - remove the files eating all your battery life and take that battery life and put it to overclocking the cpu.
as for the camera i don't know what you are talking about. almost every rom i've installed has the camera working correctly. sometimes a file is removed to make the phone run faster and the camera doesn't work but most of the times the camera is fixed pretty fast.
question 2. rooting your phone gives you access to files on your phone otherwise not able to delete. i.e. bloatware. by rooting your phone you can remove these files or adjust them how you want. now the ROM is a customization of android x.x that you flash to your hero that otherpeople have customized themselves. like removing the bloatware for you or using a custom kernel to make your phone run faster. or just changing around the entire look of android.
The Hero is a fantastic phone and can do many things. i would say upgrade and don't look back. but if you want a snapdragon CPU get the Evo. which is also an awesome phone. (but quite a bit more expensive)
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
I see someone else posted about the camera..
Every single current rom we have, has a working camera. Aside from froyo 2.2, that hasnt been publicly released yet (it will soon though).
And rom currently up-to-date within the past month, should have everything working. You might run in to a few bugs, but most are user errors or can be simply fixed.
The hero is still a great phone with many months left in it. The Evo though is still the #1 choice, and i would get one if i could.
And person above me.. No you are not crazy. Should be in general section or Q & A
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The Hero is still a worthy phone.
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both of these statements are completely true.
the Hero is actually quite awesome, lots of potential in it still, and my guess is the 2.2 will run on it just swimmingly.
that being said... if you can get one cheap, do it! But frankly, if you have upgrade credit coming to you, use it on a newer gen phone... or I would anyway. sadly, there will be less ROMs/mods/community/whathaveyou for it, balanced by a sense of adventure exploring new territory with other ROMflash addicts and ROMcookers!
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
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ya know what? your right!
Hero's a great phone.
Unbeatable combination of style, size, power, and functionality.
EVO's only better if you have no aesthetic considerations to ahm... consider.
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sweet good for you!
once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
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still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
Sputnikk23 said:
still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
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that guide is old.
THIS ONE
will work for 2.1 which is what the hero has now.
you can google JIT. google google google. all the questions have been answered at some point or another, its better to read someone's post than make a new post about the same thing thousands of other people have already asked about.
Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
I'm not saying the Hero isn't a good phone.. I'm saying if you have an upgrade, get the Evo or you'll be upset later. The phone is so much faster... 4g.. double cameras..big screen...
Bad better life, and it's a brick. I wouldn't use an upgrade on an old gen phone.
I just become a Sprint Preferred or whatever.. by having a plan over $70 and paying on time for 6 months.. I get my free upgrade in February. I definitely won't even consider the Evo.. I'll be looking at the next big thing.
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Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
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there are 7 screens you can put apps and widgets on. 1 home then 3 to the left and right.
Remember the movie Mad Max? Or was it the Road Warrior? It doesn't matter. The quote is still valid.
Speed is a question of money. How fast can you afford to go?
If you can afford it, get the Evo. If you want a cheaper, yet still awe phone, get the Hero. Then use your savings for a bigger SDHC card and Bluetooth headphones and other coolness.
I agree that the phone has a lot left in it, but a lot of devs from several phones have jumped shipped to the Evo. I'm sticking with my Hero for another year atleast, unless a real good deal comes up.
If you want to save money I would get ther Hero as it it a lot cheaper than the Evo and you will also save the $10 extra a month. That and the Evo is too damn big. To me it was uncomfortable to hold and use with one hand.
Not only can you flash /install new roms, but with a little research you can mod the rom your self and theme it how you want. Also wireless tether is awesome and the Overclocking and Undervolting is making the phone better and faster.
Ok so I spent a few days trolling.
Looks like I'm going to have to flash the old RUU since I did the 2.1 update, then follow guide, then the custom ROM.
Question though, I'm stuck on picking one: Some are very nicely featured but I don't like the default look on any of them or the themes available in a 2nd/3rd post of the ROMs thread; generically speaking, is any themes compatible with any ROM? For instance, the Cyanogen mods you can Google to dark corners of the internet...
If I understand correctly every phone can be rooted (eventually) and only have the bootloader unlocked if it is not signed (there may be a work around, but not yet done/discovered).
So If the DX is signed and is rooted, what can't we do that having the bootloader unlocked would let us? I know loading an entire custom rom is one example. I am trying to see what the handicap "really" means to us in terms of what we can/can't change.
Personally if it will be rooted and that allows side-loading, custom themes, etc and loading a clean rom is the only thing we have to live without then that is something I can probably deal with and get the phone.
Any help explaining the distinction specifically would be great.
I posted this in another forum. I though it might help explain things.
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Let me try to make some basic comparisons using Windows OS as an example....
Rooting is simply getting access to the device's system as a "Super User" or SU. Think of it like an Administrator vs regular user on Windows. There are a lot of rudimentary things in Windows that you can only do as an Admin. Getting root access on a phone does allow you to add, modify, and delete things that a regular user cannot do. This will probably allow you to modify the theme to some extent, over clock the processor, add "unauthorized" programs, etc, etc, etc.
Having unrestricted access to the bootloader allows a user to load completely new ROMs. It would be like a Windows XP user installing a new OS like a super customized verson of XP, or upgrading to Windows7, or moving to Linux, or any other OS, etc, etc, etc.
The (suspected) problem with the Droid X bootloader is that it will only accept digitally signed ROMs from Motorola. So if Moto releases Froyo (which they have already annouced), then you can upgrade to that without problems (like going from XP to Windows7). What you cannot do is use the bootloader to install any other ROM that hasn't been officially released from Moto for the Droid X.
Is it something to worry about? I guess that depends on what you planned to do with your phone. If you are a "stock" phone kind of person, then you have nothing to worry about. Even if you wanted the ability to root and play around with some changes, you probably have nothing to worry about. But if you are a hard core "tweaker" that loves to push the envelop, or if you are worried about Moto dropping support for the Droid X (it will happen one day) and you want the ability to use customized ROMs, then this probably isn't the phone for you.
Hopefully this helps explain a little better the situation we face with the Droid X (at least as we know it today).
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The other thing is that I wanted to clarify what the "digitally signed" bootloader means. Sometimes I've said things that are not really that clear....
A bootloader can be designed so that it checks and only allow properly digitally signed ROMs from being loaded. Some bootloaders do not have this "digitally signed" requirement and will load up any ROM. It is expected that the bootloader on the Droid X is one that will only work with digitally signed ROMs with Motorola's digital signature on them.
This means that only official Droid X ROMs released by Motorola itself will work on the device.
I hope that helps.
sic0048 said:
I posted this in another forum. I though it might help explain things.
The other thing is that I wanted to clarify what the "digitally signed" bootloader means. Sometimes I've said things that are not really that clear....
A bootloader can be designed so that it checks and only allow properly digitally signed ROMs from being loaded. Some bootloaders do not have this "digitally signed" requirement and will load up any ROM. It is expected that the bootloader on the Droid X is one that will only work with digitally signed ROMs with Motorola's digital signature on them.
This means that only official Droid X ROMs released by Motorola itself will work on the device.
I hope that helps.
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It helps a lot, much simpler than I thought. As long as I can tweak the phone I'll be happy, essentially that's what I flashed WinMo devices for, latest OS and custom apps. I'll hope we'll get Android 3 / Gingerbread for this device at some point after it is released end of year and assume that'll be the last major update. While it would be nice to load custom roms that are free of bloat and add in common apps, I can get by with just rooting it sounds like.
Thanks.
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It helps a lot, much simpler than I thought. As long as I can tweak the phone I'll be happy, essentially that's what I flashed WinMo devices for, latest OS and custom apps. I'll hope we'll get Android 3 / Gingerbread for this device at some point after it is released end of year and assume that'll be the last major update. While it would be nice to load custom roms that are free of bloat and add in common apps, I can get by with just rooting it sounds like.
Thanks.
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I pray each and every night for a Root to the Droid X!!!
Please this needs to be rooted so I can hulk smash my eris and go buy one!
will a rooted-only droid x allow the user to change things such as the notification bar color? how about fonts or text colors? i much prefer the HTC black bar over the stock android white one. thanks in advance!
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will a rooted-only droid x allow the user to change things such as the notification bar color? how about fonts or text colors? i much prefer the HTC black bar over the stock android white one. thanks in advance!
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yes, I am 99.9% sure that you can using adb to push a different notification bar with custom colors and icons.
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yes, I am 99.9% sure that you can using adb to push a different notification bar with custom colors and icons.
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So then MetaMorph should work then, right?
Yes metamorphosis should work as long as nand. Is unlocked. But that's still not enough for me I need my custom roms etc changing the look does nothing for performance
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Yes metamorphosis should work as long as nand. Is unlocked. But that's still not enough for me I need my custom roms etc changing the look does nothing for performance
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No, I agree. I have been spoiled on the Eris and would never go back to a "regular" phone again. This just saved me spending $300 Thur, lol. I will just wait until its unlocked and rooted. And if it isnt, tons of other phones to chose from.
Good luck to the devs working on this.
Can't we use what they are using for the milestone and just work around the bootloader ?
Because they have custom roms and recovery
My only experience with Android thus far has been with the Samsung Galaxy S and S2. I am extremely excited about the One, and I have two important questions that I have not been able to gain clarity on that are factoring into some decisions. I appreciate any owners of the One -- and any past or current HTC owners in general -- that can give me insight.
1. My GS2 has 16GB internal storage, and I have a 16GB external SD card. Both storage spaces are pretty much maxed out, with about 30 apps and pictures, video and music. My question is: What is the storage "footprint" of the base rom and apps of the One? How much space is available once basic rom/apps are installed? This will factor into my decision whether to go with the 32GB or 64 GB version (I'm with AT&T).
2. I've always been able to root and customize my Samsung phones fairly easily. Customs roms, themes, kernels, nandroid backups, titanium backups, etc., have always been smooth and simple. Is it the same experience on HTC and the One? I've been doing a lot of reading on the forums and online over the last few weeks, and it seems a bit more complicated. (I'm still not clear as to what can and cannot be done without S-OFF, for example.) As I'm on AT&T and would be getting an AT&T One, I'm wondering how easily this phone will be rooted. Does it need to go through HTCDev site? Are AT&T phones locked out of this process? If yes, is there typically a way around this? I really want the flexibility of custom roms/kernels, which have made an immense difference in my past experience with Samsung phones. Any and all clarity on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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My only experience with Android thus far has been with the Samsung Galaxy S and S2. I am extremely excited about the One, and I have two important questions that I have not been able to gain clarity on that are factoring into some decisions. I appreciate any owners of the One -- and any past or current HTC owners in general -- that can give me insight.
1. My GS2 has 16GB internal storage, and I have a 16GB external SD card. Both storage spaces are pretty much maxed out, with about 30 apps and pictures, video and music. My question is: What is the storage "footprint" of the base rom and apps of the One? How much space is available once basic rom/apps are installed? This will factor into my decision whether to go with the 32GB or 64 GB version (I'm with AT&T).
2. I've always been able to root and customize my Samsung phones fairly easily. Customs roms, themes, kernels, nandroid backups, titanium backups, etc., have always been smooth and simple. Is it the same experience on HTC and the One? I've been doing a lot of reading on the forums and online over the last few weeks, and it seems a bit more complicated. (I'm still not clear as to what can and cannot be done without S-OFF, for example.) As I'm on AT&T and would be getting an AT&T One, I'm wondering how easily this phone will be rooted. Does it need to go through HTCDev site? Are AT&T phones locked out of this process? If yes, is there typically a way around this? I really want the flexibility of custom roms/kernels, which have made an immense difference in my past experience with Samsung phones. Any and all clarity on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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1. 26GB is available
2. I will let someone else answer this more accurately as I have zero experience with HTC devices.
I can tell u this much...I've owned the s2 and s3...I tried the one x last year when it came out and went back to the s3 because of the multitasking issues and the bootloader being locked...but I saw the one and fell in love...so I sold my s3 and bought a one x to "experiment" with so to speak...I will admit they are both very different phones the HTC vs samsungs...with the Samsung it was stupidly easy to go flash crazy right from the phone with roms and kernels etc...the HTC I noticed is a different story...things (at least on the att version) are more locked down...now mind u I myself am still learning how to work the developmental side of Htc but with the proper tutorials I've managed to root/unlock the bootloader and soff the one x.....but it will take time to learn one how to do this with the HTC one, but there are some programs that developers write that make it more noob proof...but short answer is no the HTC in my opinion is not as easy to flash about like the Samsung s series phone from my experience...
Plus from what I saw there are more Rom/kernel options for the Samsung...but the few I've tried on my one x are good solid roms...I'm using viper on my one x and I love it...really hope they make a Rom for the one
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Hi mate it is very easy to root I've got htc one rooting was a easy but not as easy as galaxy s3 there's a tool on xda to root there's some nice roms already
Yeah as previousl stated there is around 26-27GB storage space. Personally, I found this easier than my Galaxy S2 to root, but that may have been because I was new to Android at the time and my computer always hated Odin... You'd have to unlock bootloader with HTC-Dev and void your warranty unless S-Off can be gained. With S-ON, you can still flash roms and everything, so it's no issue. It isn't like the Tegra HTC One X where the boot.img has to be flashed in fastboot after flashing the rom.
I had the S3 before and must say that was a bit easier to root than having to use the official HTCdev.com method. And it could be cleanly unrooted, which it not possible with the One (can only be re-locked). But at least the latter makes it more or less impossible to hard brick your One. When considering buying the AT&T version, keep an eye on the discussion whether it is possible to S-On the device at all: https://twitter.com/ste1164/status/321554709892694016
Being currently on renovate ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202696) I am quite content already, though custom ROMs are still fresh at the moment. CyanogenMod however will still take awhile to be released.
Ok so that's one thing tha confuses me with the bootloader being locked...now if it's locked we can still root and flash roms? But not kernels? Or am I wrong?
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1. I figure after the att bloat is added it'll have a little over 25gb of space on the 32.
2. I have very rarely been an early adopter of handsets. Either do to contracts or availability I usually buy a few months after release. If there's no root ability at that time I wait and use the phone till it happens, it always happens. This gives me time to see it there are any defects and need to swap it out. With the popularity of the One I'd surprised if it took till June to get s-off.
This is the 1st time I've preordered.
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1. 26GB is available
2. I will let someone else answer this more accurately as I have zero experience with HTC devices.
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Saw on droid life that a little over 8 gigs was used by sense 5 and the stock firmware, about 8.5 actually so there should be a little over 23 gigs usable on the 32
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Having owned several HTC and Samsung devices, I can say without fail that on AT&T, the Samsung devices are easier to root and customize. I fully expect this trend to continue with the One & S4.
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If your bootloader is locked, you can't flash anything. If you do wish to flash stuff, you have to unlock your bootloader using the official htc website (however, do check your phone on issues before doing that because unlocking MIGHT void your warranty).
Even if you've unlocked your bootloader, you still can't do a lot: you first have to flash a custom recovery using fastboot. After you've done that you are good to go.
However!! Boot images can't be flashed using recovery, those have to be done using fastboot. For me this is the only downside of not having s-off. S-off may come however, most snapdragon devices got it (not official ofcourse ) also, I've heard people say that there is a way to flash boot images without the need of a computer on the HTC One.. not sure if this is true though
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My only experience with Android thus far has been with the Samsung Galaxy S and S2. I am extremely excited about the One, and I have two important questions that I have not been able to gain clarity on that are factoring into some decisions. I appreciate any owners of the One -- and any past or current HTC owners in general -- that can give me insight.
1. My GS2 has 16GB internal storage, and I have a 16GB external SD card. Both storage spaces are pretty much maxed out, with about 30 apps and pictures, video and music. My question is: What is the storage "footprint" of the base rom and apps of the One? How much space is available once basic rom/apps are installed? This will factor into my decision whether to go with the 32GB or 64 GB version (I'm with AT&T).
2. I've always been able to root and customize my Samsung phones fairly easily. Customs roms, themes, kernels, nandroid backups, titanium backups, etc., have always been smooth and simple. Is it the same experience on HTC and the One? I've been doing a lot of reading on the forums and online over the last few weeks, and it seems a bit more complicated. (I'm still not clear as to what can and cannot be done without S-OFF, for example.) As I'm on AT&T and would be getting an AT&T One, I'm wondering how easily this phone will be rooted. Does it need to go through HTCDev site? Are AT&T phones locked out of this process? If yes, is there typically a way around this? I really want the flexibility of custom roms/kernels, which have made an immense difference in my past experience with Samsung phones. Any and all clarity on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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About 25GB
Very very easy to do. HTC unlock, flash custom recovery, flash supersu, flash boot.img, flash custom rom. Done.
If you need a bit of help with this there is a thread dedicated to this in the development section.
We might have a problem since AT&T won't allow the bootloader to be unlocked through HTC Dev. But I'd imagine someone would get the bootloader unlocked within a month or two.
Hello I'm huge Android fan and I never ever understood the root I've rooted my HTC one and got the Android revolution 40.3 by Mike 1986 with kit kat 4.4. And what is the big deal about root is there a cydia like program that installs stuff? I saw the bloat ware is gone and that's nice but come on it can't be just all that?
Tell me all the things as iI'm 5 years old
Thanks ahead
Edit: how do I update the rom OTA
Your 5 years old yeah sure
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When you jailbreak the iPhone you are just able to install non apple apps. You can do that out of the box on Android by allowing other sources in settings. With root on Android you are able to install customized roms, like you did the ARHD. But with root you can customize the base rom with things like Xposed. It's much more powerful than just jailbreaking. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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That's about right. The easy way to look at it is, when you get an android phone you have guest access, bit like a guest account on a PC.
You can do everything you need but not major stuff. Rooting the phone gives you administrator access or full access to everything so you can do anything eg install a different ROM or kernel.
Yeah I've got that xposed installer but what is great to install and what or why does I need to change the rom or kernel... But is the xposed installer "the big thing"?
sliz said:
Hello I'm huge Android fan and I never ever understood the root I've rooted my HTC one and got the Android revolution 40.3 by Mike 1986 with kit kat 4.4. And what is the big deal about root is there a cydia like program that installs stuff? I saw the bloat ware is gone and that's nice but come on it can't be just all that?
Tell me all the things as iI'm 5 years old
Thanks ahead
Edit: how do I update the rom OTA
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Five years old huh?? Hmmm..
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U can download stuff without even rooting.,Kid
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I think he meant "Explain it to him like he is 5 years old".
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sliz said:
Yeah I've got that xposed installer but what is great to install and what or why does I need to change the rom or kernel... But is the xposed installer "the big thing"?
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You don't NEED to do anything. Everything is based on personal preference. Different roms offer different levels of customizations and performance and gives you options based on your wants. Different kernels offer more customizations to the power source of the phone. And let's you control and adjust different aspects of the phone you'll never have the opportunity to during stock. Xposed installer can be "the big thing" based on your needs. There's no way you're going to learn all this in one thread so I'd advise doing some research first like everybody else. Google has a ton of lists on why you should or shouldn't root, and install different kernels and roms. This entire thread sounds like a giant troll to me but if it's not I would advise you do your research. Because why install a different rom when you don't even know why you're doing it?
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With an iDevice, Jailbreaking does things like allowing you to install non appstore apps, installing themes, and a few other odds and ends. With android, a lot of those things can be done out of the box. And anrdoid phone that has been rooted allows you to install custom ROMs, as has already been mentioned, and do various other things like overclock or underclock the processor and graphics, or make major changes to the phone itself. A lot of things you can do with rooted phone can potentially make the phone unstable or unusable to a degree, if you don't know what you are doing.
With root you can use the Xposed framework which can do a wide variety of things like changing the battery icon to show the percentage of the battery, make the notification bar at the top transparent, add widgets to your lock screen that you normally wouldn't be able to add, or even make it so you can hold the volume up or down buttons to change the song your listening to. There are almost endless possibilities with what you can do with rooted phone.....and that's really putting it in the simplest terms possible.
My suggestion would be to look around XDA at some of the things that require root access on you android device. Things like overclocking and underclocking, I wouldn't mess with until you have a firm grasp on what it can do and the side effect of what happens when you do it wrong.
Since it seems like you are new to android, I wouldn't worry at all about root, as you have a lot to learn before having root access will have any real use for you. It's much like buying a new house and wondering how many cable channels you'll be able to get. It's not one of those things that is a major priority. I've been using android devices for more than 5 years and still don;t find root access to be a mandatory thing.
I know what rooting is and what it does but I never found the great thing about it beside bloat ware is removed and the reason why I rooted was to get rid of them and can't get back to stock cause of bootloader is unlocked and can't get OTA on my phone with stock rom.
But I've read the ARHD rom offers OTA how do I setup my device to that. And I looked around in xposed installer and there are some preeeety nice software there
With root you are like a parent and can do things that you wouldn't let your kids do, such as eating chocolate before dinner. ?
The root user can do pretty much anything in a *nix OS, such as modify the system partition or running low level commands.
sliz said:
I know what rooting is and what it does but I never found the great thing about it beside bloat ware is removed and the reason why I rooted was to get rid of them and can't get back to stock cause of bootloader is unlocked and can't get OTA on my phone with stock rom.
But I've read the ARHD rom offers OTA how do I setup my device to that. And I looked around in xposed installer and there are some preeeety nice software there
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ARHD has never had OTA updates
the only roms I have used that did OTA is ViperOne and MaximusHD their could be others I have just not used them
InsertCoin uses an update system but it's not OTA like the others