I just thought we should all share our thoughts of what's going to change or what's getting better in the official release of froyo just to pass time..
Ill start!
I don't know how but i think it will be faster and i think they are doing some changes to the launcher.
Share!
1. Smoother graphically when changing homescreens
2. Even better memory usage
3. Minor speed tweaks to the browser to make it even faster
What'll be different from the pre-release to the official you mean?
My vote is next to nothing
Rusty! said:
What'll be different from the pre-release to the official you mean?
My vote is next to nothing
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i think there is something big and they are hiding it!
johnnie93 said:
i think there is something big and they are hiding it!
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If it were that big, they would be beta testing it. I'm assuming they are just trying to make it as solid as possible.
Neah... i think they are just patching things up for Flash. I don't think we'll see something new. Just a few bug fixes with waking up from standby, browser improvements to meet the full flash requirements and most importantly a new build number
i think they will listen to us users and enable GPU acceleration
I predict they release Gingerbread instead of Froyo
Blueman101 said:
I predict they release Gingerbread instead of Froyo
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Gingerbread will be released in 2012 when the world ends
johnnie93 said:
Gingerbread will be released in 2012 when the world ends
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I though that was when Duke Nukem Forever was supposed to be released? And Black Mesa Source? Boy 2012 is gonna be a busy end of the world.
johnnie93 said:
Gingerbread will be released in 2012 when the world ends
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On December 21st, 2012 Google will announce the biggest news in the history of mankind: the best mobile OS ever made, but its never going to be released because the world ends at midnight )
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On December 21st, 2012 Google will announce the biggest news in the history of mankind: the best mobile OS ever made, but its never going to be released because the world ends at midnight )
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Now would that be 12 midnight Eastern Standard Time? I think they'll release it at 11pm let us play with it for an hr then the supposed end will come!
lorin.bute said:
On December 21st, 2012 Google will announce the biggest news in the history of mankind: the best mobile OS ever made, but its never going to be released because the world ends at midnight )
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Im thinkin that the Mayans weren't predicting the end of the world, but the end of Apple?
Related
Just read the news about these two getting the update that fixes the SMS bug but no mention of any other 2.2.x O/S'd phones getting it. Can't be far off surely?
http://phandroid.com/
I just want that SMS fix, I've seen two I9000Ms do it. I pinged Samsung Canada on Twitter, we'll see what their response is.
v.2.3 2012
v2.4 2022
v3.0 2050
maybe
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v.2.3 2012
v2.4 2022
v3.0 2050
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maybe ayes maybe naws
My20 said:
v.2.3 2012
v2.4 2022
v3.0 2050
(American variant releases not guaranteed)
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Fixed that for you.
i somewhere read that we can expect 2.3 for SGS for the end for the first quarter of the year...but are you people using stock ROMS ? i think Darky's ROM is working on a multi-device able to detect and flash devices accordingly, shouldn't that fix your sms problems ?
ps: i have the i9000, but what is "the sms problem", i don't think i have it..
Everybody bug samsung to skip 2.3 and prep for 3.0.
With carriers charging 15-20¢/SMS and having a free replacement (google voice, google talk, emails)
I really couldn't care less about SMS. I should even remove the SMS app from my phone.
Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|
t1mman said:
Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|
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It's for both.
t1mman said:
Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|
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So wrong, it hurts.
rumor
the rumor is here :
i like the way they say
"site called SamFirmwares – one we’ve never heard of before."
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they better all listen to these site ! i wonder how these big companies would react to
all the amazing roms out there !
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So wrong, it hurts.
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Is it? Then prove me wrong...
From google:
Honeycomb is the next version of the Android platform, designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets.
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http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/01/sneak-peak-of-android-30-honeycomb.html
That's the reason Google is naming "honeycomb" 3.0, and later Tablet optimisez releases will be 3.x where smartphone will stay on 2.x
Before saying crap at one another, do some research...
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Is it? Then prove me wrong...
From google:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/01/sneak-peak-of-android-30-honeycomb.html
That's the reason Google is naming "honeycomb" 3.0, and later Tablet optimisez releases will be 3.x where smartphone will stay on 2.x
Before saying crap at one another, do some research...
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It's literally hurting my brain that you think that. Check back after 3.0 line is cut and put up on AOSP, you'll see all the honeycomb roms(for phones) floating around.
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It's literally hurting my brain that you think that. Check back after 3.0 line is cut and put up on AOSP, you'll see all the honeycomb roms(for phones) floating around.
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You can get rom floating around of about anything, doesn't mean it's made for it... You can even get a whole Linux distrubution working on SGS, still it's not "official" or optimised...
Still, nothing will be official and Honeycomb is still optimised for Tablet. I don't know why your "brain hurts", but when google sais their thing is optimised for something, since they made the thing, you'd better beleive them!
hell, you can put a Corvette engine in a Civic, still it's not meant or optimised for.
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You can get rom floating around of about anything, doesn't mean it's made for it... You can even get a whole Linux distrubution working on SGS, still it's not "official" or optimised...
Still, nothing will be official and Honeycomb is still optimised for Tablet. I don't know why your "brain hurts", but when google sais their thing is optimised for something, since they made the thing, you'd better beleive them!
hell, you can put a Corvette engine in a Civic, still it's not meant or optimised for.
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
Honeycomb adds "tablet" (ie big screen) specific support. It's not an independent branch, feature sets will trickle down accordingly to phones, they will both be 3.0.
P.S. A rom built from AOSP is as official as you can get in regards to Android.
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
Honeycomb adds "tablet" (ie big screen) specific support. It's not an independent branch, feature sets will trickle down accordingly to phones, they will both be 3.0.
P.S. A rom built from AOSP is as official as you can get in regards to Android.
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You can't read title can't you?
"New UI designed from the ground up for tablets"
The reason it's (honeycomb) taking another number (3.0) instead of following the same (2.x) is because it's for tablets...
as far as AOSP vs. Official, their's a huge difference between official source code (from google) vs official rom (from samsung).
I can't tell the future, but I can most certainly say that Kies would offer 2.4 hell before 3.0 for our devices (which are smartphones, not tablet).
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You can't read title can't you?
"New UI designed from the ground up for tablets"
The reason it's (honeycomb) taking another number (3.0) instead of following the same (2.x) is because it's for tablets...
as far as AOSP vs. Official, their's a huge difference between official source code (from google) vs official rom (from samsung).
I can't tell the future, but I can most certainly say that Kies would offer 2.4 hell before 3.0 for our devices (which are smartphones, not tablet).
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The large screen views (which never existed) are built from the "ground up" because, guess what? They never existed in the first place.
The reason it's taking 3.0 is because it's a huge jump in feature set, and qualifies as a version realease and not just a point release.
If a device has a certain feature it can access certain API from the android OS. If a device doesn't, then it can't. It's that simple.
"tablets" have the big screen feature and they can access the nested view API's. You don't know how android works. there is ONE line, which sits at 2.3.2, and it's device independent.
Just like the Nexus S can access the NFC api's because it has an NFC chip.
AOSP is the code that google/samsung/moto/acer/etc pull from, and build more on top.
Cyanogen roms are on par and equivalent(better actually) as google's roms, you can't get more "official" than AOSP. MFG roms are actually less true to AOSP as they are modified. You probably won't see 3.0 on the current galaxy line at all, but that has nothing to do whether it works on there or not.
Chill out dude! Take a deep breath....
This is getting nowhere, running in circle...
I'm pretty sure we won't see Honeycomb as a release by the makers (Samsungs, Motorola, LG, HTC, name em) on any smartphone. Don't know why this is such a big deal for you and what you don't get on the whole deal but if you want,
You can bookmark this thread and if you see an official honecomb as an official release by samsung or LG or HTC or google on a Smartphone, revive it from the archives and rub it on my face, I'll gladly take the fall...
Chill out? I think I'm just typing normally on a keyboard? Maybe I'm smashing keys, and don't recognize it?
You don't understand how android works if you think it won't appear on phones, we're not going around in circles. You're just wrong.
I thought google was going to announce the release date on the 7th, but never heard anything more. Did I miss it?
It was just an event to officially show off honeycomb.
I believe the first official HC device will be the XOOM next month.
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I believe the first official HC device will be the XOOM next month.
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You are correct Sir.
Hopefully soon after that, the Devs can start porting the full Version to the Nook.
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I believe the first official HC device will be the XOOM next month.
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A leaked Best Buy ad suggests that the Xoom release date is Feb 24, less than two weeks from now. (Not next month.)
http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/best-buy-ad-leaks-xoom-release-date-pricing
That's like 3+ nooks!!
799$ smackers... I'm really appreciating the action that I'm getting from the nook color now!!
Hey guys
Is xxjvk beta version or the finalised version of gingerbread.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
As it is not official released, it seems, this is a late beta - maybe already final, depends on what Samsung will release in a few hours / days / months
Kind regards,
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i can promise you that officail from kies is coming withing the next few hours or tomorrow as they promised march hopefully in this time they are adding crt monitor off animation and green notification bar
TechKidTarek said:
i can promise you that officail from kies is coming withing the next few hours or tomorrow as they promised march hopefully in this time they are adding crt monitor off animation and green notification bar
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You can promise that based on what grounds ?
Herd it'll be released on 1st April....
Drift spunk said:
Herd it'll be released on 1st April....
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Yeah, a friend of a guy has a friend, whose colleague knows a guy who has an uncle, which lives next to a guy, who knows a guy from Samsung, who said, it will be released "soon" - right ?
its not beta for me its final, since its fine !
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Herd it'll be released on 1st April....
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april fools day
I think it's a late beta as it still has bugs, for example: softkeys constant backlight, memory management, lack of some features from clean Android 2.3.3 , Exchange new emails count bug, alarm clock sometimes just not working.
I'm sure they would want to fix those.
Swyped from my SGS @ JVK 2.3.3
Short answer: No!
It will be final when it's available trough kies, period!
And it can be "final" for many people, but it won't be "realy" final until Samsung/your provider descides so!
but my brothers dogs cousin said it was final!
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but my brothers dogs cousin said it was final!
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Okay, then it has to be final
Unless somebody backtracks on their definitive statement its coming .
jje
Has everybody noticed how this has slipped thru the cracks with all the distraction of Google I/O 2011 news?
Google I/O Google has said that the next version of Android, dubbed "Ice Cream Sandwich", will be open sourced "by the end of the year," and that it will not open source the current Android incarnation, the tablet-centric Honeycomb, before that time.
Source:
UU UU UU dot theregister.co.uk/2011/05/10/android_ice_cream_sandwich/
Andy Rubin has backtracked on making the Honeycomb source available until after it is no longer relevant (if even then). There is no promise any more of EVER getting the Honeycomb source, so it looks like the best we'll be able to do is SDK11 unless B&N updates stock to Honeycomb (don't hold your breath).
I wouldn't say Honeycomb will no longer be relevant after ICS. After all, ICS is a smart phone OS, whereas HC is designed for tablets. What I'm getting from this is that ICS is basically going to be the smartphone version of HC. Google has stated that they don't want people porting HC to smartphones. By delaying the release of source for HC until after ICS hits the shelves, Google is trying to forestall the translation of HC to phones by waiting to release HC code until it no longer makes sense to do so (beacuse there'll be no point in doing so).
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I wouldn't say Honeycomb will no longer be relevant after ICS. After all, ICS is a smart phone OS, whereas HC is designed for tablets. What I'm getting from this is that ICS is basically going to be the smartphone version of HC. Google has stated that they don't want people porting HC to smartphones. By delaying the release of source for HC until after ICS hits the shelves, Google is trying to forestall the translation of HC to phones by waiting to release HC code until it no longer makes sense to do so (beacuse there'll be no point in doing so).
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Actually, from the presentation, ICS is just as much for tablets, since the UI is supposed to scale based on the device.
However, they keep saying ICS for quarter 4, which is half a year away. Frankly, i am pissed that they yanked devs around for so long HOPING we might see the code, when in reality, i have no doubt they held it back solely on the request of Moto and others, to help maintain a monopoly on HC market..
Other media reports are characterizing the discussion as Rubin saying that they will never release the Honeycomb AOSP. Yet another reason to ignore the Xoom, et al. tablets if they're going to pull this bull****.
Brilliant plan -- release a closed buggy version, refuse the community to do de-bugging work for free and then hope that it will be magically fixed by merging with the OS that originally was thought to not be up to snuff.
Google thinks that they can "merge" Honeycomb back into Ice Cream Sandwich (after they "get it right").
What I want to know is, how is Andy Rubin justifying withholding the source of an "open source" OS? And what is to keep him from doing the same thing again next year with ICS?
There are more comments over in the developer thread on this subject. I started this one first, but I don't have enough posts to start one over there (grumble, grumble). I'm slowly getting closer to being able to post there though (grin).
One school of thought over there is that the Honeycomb AOSP is a hacked up kludge "not ready for primetime" and that's why Google doesn't want it out.
While that is very likely true and (and will probably continue to be true now that 3.1 is released), that is no justification for opposing "opening" the source.
Since I expect the kludges will be "grandfathered" throughout future releases, I don't expect to ever see HC AOSP. I could be wrong, but it really doesn't matter because ICS will be out by then and everybody will be wanting to port to it.
What I'm concerned with is the "promise" of ICS being released in a timely fashion. Mr. Rubin has made earlier "promises" that have later been rescinded. I don't think he EVER wanted HC released and was just trying to "buy time" until Google I/O 2011 so that he could take the heat off with the announcement of ICS.
I hope I'm wrong, but ... fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....
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However, they keep saying ICS for quarter 4, which is half a year away.
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Fiscal, or calendar? Because fiscal Q4 is July-September.
zombieflanders said:
Fiscal, or calendar? Because fiscal Q4 is July-September.
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Technically, i don't think they have said, but i have never seen any other Google release announcement refer to a fiscal quarter instead of the calendar. I would love for it to be fiscal, but that is a real pipe dream.
DM -
Tell them over in the other thread that Andy Rubin's quote was in a Q&A w/press after his keynote.
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DM -
Tell them over in the other thread that Andy Rubin's quote was in a Q&A w/press after his keynote.
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Consider it done.
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Consider it done.
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Thanks (just one more post and I can get into Dev!!)
Has anyone heard anything new about us officially getting ICS? It is taking forever, i know our ROM's are stable enough without it but i miss the camera
no news yet.
it was supposed to be Q2 as far as i remember but time is running out.
im seriously pissed off at samsung who are being real d*cks about updating devices to ics.
even small sh*tty devices like huawei media pad have had official ics updates and we bought the most expensive tab thinking it would entail good support but so far nothing
basically i've given up waiting. when it comes ill be happy but im not counting the days / holding my breath
Totaly agree!, I am using ROM Stock (3.2) and I gave up about Sammy ICS, I'am waiting a net model with ICS in Brazil, but I feel so sorry because I think we will have no 8.9 new models
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Keep an eye on this websites
Www.sammobile.com
http://m.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
I think we will get an ICS update in Q3
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Keep an eye on this websites
Www.sammobile.com
http://m.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
I think we will get an ICS update in Q3
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For source that has been out since October? Take the Galaxian Soup AOSP and add the camera and touchwiz. Done.
This is an insane wait with so many other tegra 2 devices already having official ICS ROMs
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For source that has been out since October?
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yeah samsung just plain f*cked up. i really do hope this dampens their sales! for such an expensive tab this is really unecceptable!
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For source that has been out since October? Take the Galaxian Soup AOSP and add the camera and touchwiz. Done.
This is an insane wait with so many other tegra 2 devices already having official ICS ROMs
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Samsung just F***ked us up whit there updates come on Man for souch a expensive device and so long a wait to ICS update now still on Laggy Honeycomb!
PS: i'm not on honeycomb hate it!
According to this on Android Central it's going to be late July
July was confirmed by Samsung on Facebook Last Month
Waiting for warmer weather here in the UK before they start dishing out Ice cream Sandwiches
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July was confirmed by Samsung on Facebook Last Month
Waiting for warmer weather here in the UK before they start dishing out Ice cream Sandwiches
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we all know how well they stick to what they promise...
Well Samsung is always late for updates because they always manage to release a new device where there are new android versions coming up. :S
I can understand why they wouldn't want to update, I tried the galaxy tab 2 and it's much smoother and really working very well with ICS considering is the same hardware it just doesn't make sense to update when you can buy the same thing again just for the software update.
Honestly I would even pay some dollars to Samsung if they allow me to update next month.
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Keep an eye on this websites
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faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755[/url]
I think we will get an ICS update in Q3
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Well - the P7300 isn't mentioned in there at all :-(
Am I right in assuming that the SGH-i957 and the P7300 are completely different (the custom ROMs would suggest so)
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Am I right in assuming that the SGH-i957 and the P7300 are completely different
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yes completely different!
they use different hardware thats why the roms aren't compatible from one to another!
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Well Samsung is always late for updates because they always manage to release a new device where there are new android versions coming up.
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Yeah, but that argument doesn't hold because most of their new devices are still released with Gingerbread. The Galaxy IIIS is actually an exception and not the rule. Go to gsmarena.com and look at all the newly released and announced Samsung phones--most on Gingerbread
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Well Samsung is always late for updates because they always manage to release a new device where there are new android versions coming up. :S
I can understand why they wouldn't want to update, I tried the galaxy tab 2 and it's much smoother and really working very well with ICS considering is the same hardware it just doesn't make sense to update when you can buy the same thing again just for the software update.
Honestly I would even pay some dollars to Samsung if they allow me to update next month.
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Why would you say that? They don't even make an 8.9 Wi-Fi only anymore if what I'm getting on their website is correct. Unless that is you are not talking about the Wi-Fi one.
For Wi-Fi only people there is no new device.