Hi guys,
I wanted to check out android 2.1 flan, so I installed the rom after making a nandroid backup.
It was fun to check out, but in order to load it I had to wipe my phone and my cache.
After restoring my nandroid, all the applications I had installed but wiped with the cache are acting funny. Basically they still show up in manage applications, but they really arent there, and if I try to reinstall them through market it doesnt let me click install OR uninstall as both are greyed out.
Basically, I will have to wait for all my applications to get "updates" before I can use them again.
Is there a way to clean up these ghost programs... without doing a complete wipe (and loosing text messages and other things)?
I didnt think Nandroid did application backups (what you are seeing are in the ext3 partition)
You need Switchrom or BART to do full backups including apps
I may be (and no dount will be) wrong though.
sjbayer3 said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to check out android 2.1 flan, so I installed the rom after making a nandroid backup.
It was fun to check out, but in order to load it I had to wipe my phone and my cache.
After restoring my nandroid, all the applications I had installed but wiped with the cache are acting funny. Basically they still show up in manage applications, but they really arent there, and if I try to reinstall them through market it doesnt let me click install OR uninstall as both are greyed out.
Basically, I will have to wait for all my applications to get "updates" before I can use them again.
Is there a way to clean up these ghost programs... without doing a complete wipe (and loosing text messages and other things)?
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As mentioned above, nandroid *does not* back up your external apps. It will ONLY backup your *INTERNAL* storage.
If you make a clean restore of your nandroid backup and then run the fix_permissions script from recovery, it *might* be able to fix (some/most of) your external apps. Might try that.
If it doesn't work, then it is a tedious business of reinstalling each application individually and then restoring *ITS* home directory. Either that or a total wipe (internal and external).
The problem is that the database file that keeps track of which apps you have installed/removed is out of sync with the apps that you have installed.
I am uncertain how to fix this (I have the same problem myself).
If you perform a factory wipe, you'll lose that database entirely. All your apps will be installed, but your phone will think that none of them are.
UPDATE:
OK...apparently this is a more widespread issue impacting people running the stock/OEM ROMs as well as those of us with rooted phones.
Read up on this thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=096ef069db2788e9&hl=en
I followed the suggestion near the bottom of the page and copied over the /data/data/com.andriod.vending/databases/assets.db to a new filename (basically I renamed it).
I then launched the market app and then it would let me install (reinstall) the missing apps.
Then I ran into a problem. I deleted the new assets.db that was created and copied the old one (the one I renamed) back to assets.db.
Then the market app would force close. I noticed the UID of the assets.db file was wrong.
I ran the fix_permissions script from RA's recovery image. This fixed the UID problem, including the assets.db file. But now the market app only shows the apps that I've paid for......none of the others that I have installed.
Not sure what's going on there. It may sort itself out within 24 hours.
I flashed on Paul's FroYo the other day and decided I didn't want the headache of app instability until later. But now after nandroid restoring my 5.0.6 backup, I can no longer download anything from the market. I read posts where people said to clear data from apps such as download manager, google apps, etc but when i go to my manage applications in settings I cannot see these apps, my guess is theyre hidden in CM. Any suggestions?
have you gone to settings (when in manage applications) and changed the filter to all apps?
I've got the same issue.
Decided to wipe, install Cyan 5.0.6 then revert to my 5.0.6. Nandroid.
Everything is fine until I try to download TI Backup from the market.
Anything I try and download just hangs at 'downloading'....
I've wiped caches, cleared data, replaced my XML file....etc
Grrrrrrr, why does nothing work properly.
i went back to 5.0.6 to do what you said, every time ive gone back with my nandroid back up its been fine, but this time the market app is corrupt for some reason. the vending.apk is in /system/app but the market icon isnt in the launcher and the shortcut on my home screen says app not installed when i use it. doing a factory reset works but i want that to be a last resort as i would like to preserve my settings/messages. ive tried replacing the vending.apk with different ones but it still won't install. any ideas?
I followed the steps here and it fixed the issue for me. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6575904
I recently installed CM7 and restored my apps using Titanium Backup (premium). Most of the apps do not show up in Market->My Apps as Installed. Some of them appear after I have upgraded them using App Brain.
I have tried wiping the phone and starting from scratch, clearing data on Market and on Google Framework, running Fix Permissions in Rom Manager, running Market Doctor in Titanium Backup.
The only thing I haven't tried is wiping and letting Android re-download all the apps. I don't want to do this until I've exhausted all other options.
This started about a week ago (around the time the web market was released). I'm not sure about the exact date (whether it was when I installed CM7, upgraded to #36, or when the market was released).
Bumping. Still having this problem.
If you search for an app that's installed (but not in My Apps), does the Market show it as installed?
You can try using Titanium to restore Market links for apps that are missing, so that'd be worth a go.
Must admit though, whenever my Market isn't showing everything, clearing it's data always sorts it.
Seeing as you've had this problem for several days, I would go ahead and fully wipe as with a little preparation, it should only take 45 minutes or so, depending on Android. Hopefully you have a stable Nandroid, restore it, then I would:
Apps that I've highly customized (ADW, LauncherPro, GentleAlarm, etc) I would export their settings using their built in Export functionality
Go ahead and fully wipe, sometimes it takes a couple wipes
Flash ROM, sign in & let Android install the apps
Restore data only using TB, toggling just the apps that absolutely need it & that didn't have built-in export functions (not ADW, LP, GA, etc). If the app doesn't have a lot of settings, avoid restoring its previous data to avoid unnecessary problems
Once the phone calms, begin importing settings that were exported
In the past when I was messing with ROMs I ran into this problem and just loaded up Appbrain and let it sync. After that the market showed my installed apps.
But as said, Titanium is supposed to be able to do this.. Although I never saw it actually work.
SOLVED
Had the same problem.
Just go to my apps->market->clear data->stop service
run again market and sign in -> voila you have all your apps listed
I think most people posting in this forum having this problem probably tried that already. ;-)
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I have 2 issues that are really starting to tick me off. At first they were just an annoyance, but now... GRRR!!!
1st issue:
Randomly, my D3 will just reboot, and it goes to ROM Manager's Recovery and stays there until I do something. So if this happens at say 3AM, I don't have an alarm clock any more as I get a list to Reboot, Backup/Restore, Update from ZIP, etc.
2nd issue:
Everytime the phone reboots, the same 32 apps are uninstalled. No, not just missing the icon, COMPLETELY uninstalled as reloading the Homescreen DOES NOT load the applications, they are still uninstalled. It also refreezes an app I have to keep unfreezing. Some of the apps are installed to the phone, some are moved off the phone to the media area, some contain no extra data/download.
Things I've tried:
1. Mounting system as RW, reinstalling them all, and rebooting, no luck.
2. Mount system partition, used Permissions Pro to reset all permissions (I don't like some games having to load at boot, I think it's stupid, so I denied them that) and performed step 1 again, no luck.
3. Used ROM Toolbox Pro to fix permissions, and performed step 1 again, no luck.
4. Moved the apps that were in the media area back to the phone, back to the media area, and back to the phone, no luck.
5. Reinstalling and unfreezing and rebooting without doing anything special, no luck.
6. Yelling and screaming at it, as well as threaten it's life, no luck.
7. Begged it to behave, no luck.
Droid 3, Rooted, ROM Manager (with ClockworkMod Recovery), Titanium Backup, a few of the VZW bloatware removed.
I'm willing to do a factory reset, but will I have to re-root? I don't mind losing ClockworkMod Recovery if needed, as I want to safestrap it anyways. I have searched many forums over and over, includling those not for Droid 3 devices, but they all have to do with the app appearing uninstalled, not actually being removed off the phone.
Thanks greatly.
I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
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Jason Roach said:
I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
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Stock ROM.
if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
SBF and use Safestrap next time.
correct, just install minimoto, or XT861 5.8.25 Stock ROM. Android 2.3.6
sd_shadow said:
if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
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Thanks! I am on .906, so I'm downloading that huge 450 MB 1click file, but I have a few questions..
1. Do I have to re-root?
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
Thanks very much for you help thus far.
before flashing 906 sbf, you may want to back up app/data with titanium backup, texts/call log with sms backup+, confirm contacts are backed up
1. Do I have to re-root?
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yes, use motofail
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
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yes but I would take update, like recommended by ovelayer
Once you have successfully sbf'd you will have to reinstall the .906 ota. you can accomplish this one of 2 ways
1. Go to settings/about phone/system updates and follow the steps
2. Download the update from this thread push it to your EXTERNAL sdcard boot your phone into STOCK recovery pwr+x choose install update
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3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
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use the How to install and use safe strap 3.05 on the droid 3 for true multi booting on ROMs, video in that post
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
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they are similar, with safestap you leave stock rom, custom roms are install differently so you can switch back and forth between reboots
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also ovelayer doesn't cover, wiping data
if phone bootloops, after flashing sbf, try wiping cache in android recovery
Android system recovery <3a>
with device off
hold X & power, when you see triangle, !, & Andy, press both volume buttons
if phone still bootloops go back to android recovery, and wipe data
or save sometime, and wipe data before flashing sbf
So, I did the whole 1-click-sbf thing, activated the phone, didn't install anything yet, but I did update all the system apps (GMail app, Play Store, etc) and everything was good. I also restored my text messages and call history.
I rooted the phone just fine as well.
Then I started to download and install some apps by using the market not my Titanium Backups.
Moved the ones to the Media Area that didn't automatically move.
Rebooted again, and some apps are uninstalled again, but this time, all of them are ones that were moved to SD card, but not all SD moved apps got uninstalled.
So, what I decided to do, is reinstall the missing apps and keep them on the phone to see what happens. The ones that were uninstalling are now staying installed, however, now some that never uninstalled (that are on the SD) are uninstalling themselves. GRR!
So, the last thing I tried is to now reinstall the uninstalled apps, move them back to the phone, and reboot to see what happens now... I finally got around to finishing up this and after this last reboot, NEW applications that never got uninstalled are now uninstalled.
Time for new phone perhaps?
maybe reformat, your sd card?
sd_shadow said:
maybe reformat, your sd card?
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Internal or External (32 GB MicroSD)?
I formatted internal when I did the1 click thingy.
formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards
sd_shadow said:
formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards
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I went to settings, storage, format.
I never did have good success with Titanium.
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MrObvious said:
I never did have good success with Titanium.
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It may depend on what you are trying to restore
I use the same backups on D2, DX2, and D3
but I don't play games, and use sms backup + for text and call logs
I've never had a problem with tibu, as long as I only use it for user apps.
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Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
Does TEC from VZW cover this type of issue? I can un-root the phone and they'd be none the wiser.
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Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
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Moving apps to the "media area" is a kludge at best and I avoid it. Every once in a while I check settings->applications to see if any apps snuck their way there, and I move all of them back to internal.
So I wiped the phone again, repeated the whole 1-click file thingy as last time, seems to be going rather smooth this time around. While poking around, I noticed a built-in (and probably bloatware) application not installed. I tried to google it to see what it does, but nothing is really all that clear. The package is called 'com.verizon.permissions.appdirectedsms' and I found it missing through TiBu. However, SMS works just fine.
Anyone able to advise what the package does, or did? I haven't updated to 906 yet, so perhaps it's something new with that and that's why it's missing? Guess I should update first shouldn't I? Ok, I will. I'll update when it's done.
Many, many thanks to all of you!
what do you mean not installed, if its in the system apps folder its installed
not all system apks show up in apps drawer
and titanium may have a different name for it
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