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Which phone should I get?

So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!

Maybe get a fuze that works properly? I really have no suggestions other than that.

The best phone to get would obviously be the Fuze. However, if you want some money, then i suggest you get an iPhone (16gb), sell it on eBay and then you'll have a lot cash to buy a new phone (and even have some left over).

Good to know iphoney is out of the question!
If looking for something not too expensive I would recommend Universal because it´s great keyboard and screen!
If $ is not a problem check Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2
Good luck,

PwnCakes193 said:
So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
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Goes to show that WinMo is not for the weak, the noob, and the ones who don't have time. Get a Blackjack or something. that would suit you.
Btw, I think by any phone, the guy would've probably meant that any phone from at&t and I still find your story highly unlikely cause normal people do not get calls from anyone "VERY" high so to say even if you've been a customer of AT&T since it began. I highly doubt it. But sure, I suggest only 3 phones for you. BB Bold, BB Curve, Samsung BlackJack.

If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.

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If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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AT&T is not selling those phones yet.
and yeah, that story is unlikely, not saying you made it up, but the person was probably a tech support supervisor, or manager.
get the iphone. if the X1 is sold through AT&T(which i dont think it is) then get that, other then that, if you dont like to customize your phone, dont get a HTC, get a LG incite or something of that nature.

the person who called me was the Vice-President of Customer Support, I found her email adress on AT&T's website and sent her an email. Got a call 3 days later I can post the link if you guys don't believe me
I do like tinkering with my phone, but only to an extent. I need a long battery for everyday trips, and I need a phone with great signal strength.
I have been with AT&T for 8 years, landline and cellular service. And my Dad's side of the line holds the entire companies phone systems, and theres around 1500 phones. AT&T would not want to lose business

Alright, so a little update, and this was great.....
I get....
A brand new Blackberry Bold
I get to keep my Fuze
And I get 200 dollars in credit

Sell the blackberry,
get a new Fuze thats not defective
Send me the credit for my bills!

So I'm Thinking About Buying A Nexus One....

Okay, so I’m thinking about buying a Nexus One and have a few questions to ask before buying it. Please understand that I have never used Android before and this will be my first time. Here they are…
1. Does rooting void my warranty? Like, if I decide to root the phone, will my warranty no longer be valid? Also, what exactly is rooting?
2. Does using a rooted phone vs. a non-rooted phone have any differences besides having access to root files? Like, is a rooted phone slower or have any problems? What are the pros and cons of a rooted phone vs. a non rooted one?
3. Does sense from let’s say the Desire ROM, run as smoothly on the Desire as it does on the Nexus?
4. What are the pros and cons of the Nexus One?
5. How durable is the nexus one, I saw some article where the LCD supposedly cracked for no reason which I don't believe but...? I do take really, really good care of my phones and baby them but I’d still like to know. I live in south Florida where it’s really humid (and HOT, 103 degrees at 3:00 today!!) and had a moisture incident with a Tilt 2…. Especially since it’s summer and rains quite often in afternoons and then the suns comes back up which makes it really humid and miserable….
6.Does anyone regret getting a Nexus One and wish they got something else…? If so why, and what?
That’s about it…sorry if I‘m asking really common questions that get asked a lot but, I’m new to Android and curious before I make the switch. If there is anything essential a newcomer needs to know that I didn’t mention please tell me, I’d really appreciate it!

Go for nexus one, its amazing with Froyo 2.2, no phone currently beat nexus with froyo 2.2, and if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
And yes of course nexus one is best phone ever, current owner of nexus one, and iphone 3gs, i would like to say Nexus One can outperform iphone anyday with froyo 2.2. Except of some apps. but dont worry Android Market is catching up, and soon it will match quality apps like in iphone. Although i miss my Skype on Nexus but there are alternative to workaround. but with Google Voice who needs skype.
I dont know if it will answer your each and every question but i would simply suggest 529 USD well spent on NEXUS.

Go with your gut

Go for nexus one, its amazing with Froyo 2.2, no phone currently beat nexus with froyo 2.2, and if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
And yes of course nexus one is best phone ever, current owner of nexus one, and iphone 3gs, i would like to say Nexus One can outperform iphone anyday with froyo 2.2. Except of some apps. but dont worry Android Market is catching up, and soon it will match quality apps like in iphone. Although i miss my Skype on Nexus but there are alternative to workaround. but with Google Voice who needs skype.
I dont know if it will answer your each and every question but i would simply suggest 529 USD well spent on NEXUS.
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BRO I have Skype on my nexus. Just type in Skype android download on google and you'll get the beta. Its the best.

no - and why
no, i would not recommend a N1 for anyone, anymore. here's why:
3G. the phone drops 3g signals constantly, without warning, causing any/all network traffic to halt. youtube, phone calls, pandora, voicemail, calendars, sync, all of that fails when the 3g signal dies.
now, for clarification, when 3g drops, the phone is sitting on a shelf/table, with four bars. four. 4. excellent signal, no UFO's flying over head, nothing. it completely stops making traffic, and forces you to restart the radio (goto airplane, then exit airplane mode) before packets start moving again.
i've been using the n1 for about 3 months now, and it's an AWESOME smartphone. the roms are fantastic, the apps great, but 3g is rediculous. it's hardware, and it's really bad.
would i buy a revision 2 of the nexus ? ONLY and only after a few other thousand other people report that the 3g problems are gone.
just to be clear, 3g is the one and only gripe (besides a physical keyboard) i have with the n1.
your other questions will be answered shortly. ;-)

Okay, thanks for the answers guys but so far only one of my questions was answered!

PurpleLlamaLover said:
Okay, so I’m thinking about buying a Nexus One and have a few questions to ask before buying it. Please understand that I have never used Android before and this will be my first time. Here they are…
1. Does rooting void my warranty? Like, if I decide to root the phone, will my warranty no longer be valid? Also, what exactly is rooting?
2. Does using a rooted phone vs. a non-rooted phone have any differences besides having access to root files? Like, is a rooted phone slower or have any problems? What are the pros and cons of a rooted phone vs. a non rooted one?
3. Does sense from let’s say the Desire ROM, run as smoothly on the Desire as it does on the Nexus?
4. What are the pros and cons of the Nexus One?
5. How durable is the nexus one, I saw some article where the LCD supposedly cracked for no reason which I don't believe but...? I do take really, really good care of my phones and baby them but I’d still like to know. I live in south Florida where it’s really humid (and HOT, 103 degrees at 3:00 today!!) and had a moisture incident with a Tilt 2…. Especially since it’s summer and rains quite often in afternoons and then the suns comes back up which makes it really humid and miserable….
6.Does anyone regret getting a Nexus One and wish they got something else…? If so why, and what?
That’s about it…sorry if I‘m asking really common questions that get asked a lot but, I’m new to Android and curious before I make the switch. If there is anything essential a newcomer needs to know that I didn’t mention please tell me, I’d really appreciate it!
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rooting can void you warranty, people are having hit and miss experiences... in the end, it is up to htc... like this site told me, play with it, use it.... make sure the phone is solid then root.
I have never used a desire, but I did try the senseui rom, it looked and felt great... but it was 2.1...
my non root nexus was great, a pleasure to use... and that is coming from my 3gs.... it was not as smooth or polished as my 3gs, but it was beyond acceptable.... but I wanted to root because I was tired of waiting for froyo 2.2... which adds beta flash support. So I did it, and now its fast, smooth and has many more options... I can play most flash websites and even some flash games, stream sports games and my local radio stations, it add some cool apps to your phone as well, depening on what you flash, it can be overclocked, or cool looking, endless really. I still do not know what I am doing... but it is fun so far, lol.
I have no cons yet, pros are above really.... 5mb camera, 1000mhz (1113 here), flash, customizing. I think it is very durable so far, I am a contractor and use it for work and play, I even dropped it today
I do not regret it and I am having fun with it, it does almost all the things I want and much more I never knew possible... even live wallpaper makes me giddy, lol.
I went from the 3g to the 3gs and I still love the nexus one..... I am new to my phone, but I hope I shed some light somewhere, you will not regret it

Wow, thanks! I'm really concerned about rooting though... Is it difficult? Do you lose any features or usability of the device? What exactly does it do?

PurpleLlamaLover said:
Wow, thanks! I'm really concerned about rooting though... Is it difficult? Do you lose any features or usability of the device? What exactly does it do?
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rooting is not very difficult, but be sure you do your research first. Rooting does not loose any features, in fact the purpose of it is to allow the user full access to the phone. Basically the phone manufacturer lock down many of the things that could cause the phone to break, because of this rooting allows you to have full "admin" rights to the phone, be able to possibly break the phone but it allows you so much more. Overclocking, access to apps not usable by nonroots, and rom flashing. There are a lot of things to do when rooted, however I would advise that you hold off on rooting (im assuming your new to android) get to know the phone first, see if you like, or if your disappointed, if you are perfectly content with what the phone defaultly delivers there is no reason to root.
-Cheers and good luck
PS the nexus one was my first smartphone and so far it has done everything i could possiblely want, and i never looked back

bhanvadia said:
if u got built model other than ERE27, you are bound to root it to get Froyo 2.2, which is worth the unlocking. And as for unlocking it void your warranty.
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hmm...why is that? my phone came with EPE54B and would like to get froyo once its out officially

If you get the awesome Nexus in your hand stock or rooted, you will be amazed and never look back

Well, I won't be rooting it myself, someone I know offered to do it for me who is really experienced with Android. So should I accept the offer, or decline? I'm coming from WinMo here where ROOT access I suppose it's called is their by default. You can go to the windows folder and do anything you want within their where all the system files are available to see. But, you can't delete some stuff therefore total commander give you total access to that lol.

the only possible issue is rooting voids your warranty. but many people have still gotten repairs under warranty even with root.
there is no downside to rooting. you dont lose anything, all you do is gain functions. i waited 3 months before rooting, and once i did i'm gald i did and have no regrets.

ohgood said:
no, i would not recommend a N1 for anyone, anymore. here's why:
3G. the phone drops 3g signals constantly, without warning, causing any/all network traffic to halt. youtube, phone calls, pandora, voicemail, calendars, sync, all of that fails when the 3g signal dies.
now, for clarification, when 3g drops, the phone is sitting on a shelf/table, with four bars. four. 4. excellent signal, no UFO's flying over head, nothing. it completely stops making traffic, and forces you to restart the radio (goto airplane, then exit airplane mode) before packets start moving again.
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I guess you should take this to your cellular provider. Nexus is the only phone I had until now that allowed me full-time WiFi tethering on an hour long way in 100mph train, while some of the area being covered with HSDPA, and in some spots dropping all the way down to GPRS, not even EDGE. And it's capable of initiating and keeping HSDPA with 0 bars showing. I was constantly in remote control of 2 computers, email, communicator, etc.

So... anymore input/advice?

PurpleLlamaLover said:
So... anymore input/advice?
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i would advise get the phone then wait a while before rooting, see if you really need it or if you are perfectly content with what it already lets you do, if you want more control over the phone after a month or two then root it, no downside except warranty voided.

I do prefer control. I'm coming from WinMo which I changed the look dailey and hope to do that soon with Android.

you can do all of that without rooting, android is much more loose than winmo ever will be, without even rooting.

advice? get the phone, use for a week to make sure nothing is faulty, root and play
like someone said above, you do not have to root to customize/control... it just gives you more options and things to play with/try out.
I love having 2.2 but I miss the sense ui

PurpleLlamaLover said:
So... anymore input/advice?
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(maybe) get an android phone ... but NOT the N1 (with all its hardware/software issues).
And if you plan to use your phone for business ... forget android.

[Q] I need honest answer PLEASE

Is this phone and company worth switching over too ? Do to Sprints changing my plan without my approval,I have the opportunity to switch to another carrier.Out of the other big 3 Verizon,T-mobile & AT&T is the only one that is willing to put their offer in writting to me. The other reason I am even looking at this phone and company is because both of my sons want the IPhone and my wife only wants a phone offered by them as well..
So..please fellow XDA members tell me staright up..should I stay with Sprint and my Hero for 1-1/2 years more..or start fresh with this phone and AT&T..
Mac

50 views and not even 1 response..?
Is there no one on-line that has this phone wanting to step up and answer the question ?
I really would like to know the feelings of the folks here,since those that have this phone also have AT&T's service..
Mac

Not an easy one to answer really. I would say if you are completely turned of by what Sprint did to you then changing wouldn't be a bad thing. Going with AT&T will get you points with your family. And who couldn't use more points with their family, right?
That being said, you have by now undoubtedly heared about the GPS problems facing the Galaxy S phones. Some have found their phone is better with different versions, some claim all the updates and changes have made their GPS unuseable. If you are in need of a phone that has good GPS then I would say you can find better. Personally, the GPS issue isn't a deal breaker for me. I am also one of the lucky ones that find it works fine for how I use it.
The phone itself is amazing. Being on XDA also helps as there are many helpful and informative people. Also, the Captivate has been out long enough that the mods are becomming better and better every day, that is if you are into modding your phone. Heck, stock it still is a good phone.
So it all boils down to what you really want to do. I think that is why you haven't had anyone jump on giving you an answer. Good luck my friend!

There is no "right carrier". The advantage of AT&T (now) is coverage and GSM. AT&T has better coverage then T-Mobile, but about equal to VZW. GSM allows you take your phone to Europe - VZW CDMA does not;
But the future brings change - VZW has a slew of World phones coming out (they have GSM as well as CDMA) - VZW has LTE coming out - which is supposed to be a global standard - so travel issue may be a thing of the past.
AT&T has the iPhone today, but rumor says a CDMA iPhone on VZW for the holidays. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know what you are looking for in writing - all the carriers plans are on their web site. T-Mo does have the best customer service, and VZW has some great android phones. If you don't travel much, and T-Mo has good coverage where you live, they seem to have the best prices and some of the best phones.
AT&T is fine too - not trying to steer you away. I moved to AT&T for an iPhone years ago - and I travel to EU; so VZW wasn't cutting it.
Anyway If the family wants AT&T and the price for phones and service fits, then make the move. But you are stuck for 2 years.

Sounds like it's 3-1 in your house. I'd go ahead and make the switch if thats what your family wants. I don't think you'll be worse off with one carrier over the other, at the end of the day they will all screw you. Captivate is a great phone if you can deal with the sometimes difficult to deal with GPS.

I agree. Go with what makes your family happy overall. The Captivate is a fine device, and I've been much more pleased with it than I was with my iPhone. Talk it over with your family, putting them first won't do you wrong.

My first phone was from Virgin Mobile and was prepaid. I know they leased out network access from Sprint. It was awful. I never had good coverage, and then they started charging more for everything. I left them.
I've been with AT&T now since 6th grade. They've never screwed us over, they've always been helpful, and whenever we've had problems, like my sister signing up for those joke things they advertise on tv putting huge data charges on our bill, they cleared it up right away and even gave us a credit on the account.
Of course you're going to hear horror stories of bad customer service from everyone, but really it's not all that common. I've always thought AT&T had great phones, and they've all last me a long time.
My favorite phones have always been Samsung ones as all but one of my phones has been from them. My first was a Sony Ericsson S710a and it lasted me until one day I was sliding it open, and it slipped out of my hand and into a wall and the LCD shattered. After that I had a Samsung a727, then the SGH-i607 Blackjack, then the SGH-a877 Impression, and now the Captivate.
You will be happier with AT&T then with Sprint. But ultimately, you pay the bill and you decide where your money goes. I'll just add that I don't usually praise any company for no reason.

I love this phone with ji6 gps works completely fine for me it does what its supposed to every time lately gets me there no issues. Im very happy with att besides they make you pay for tethering, but theres ways around that with this phone, hehe ;-)
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Thanks Guys..
I hate spending a-lot more money so soon on moving my service (since may 2010)..but I really don't know how I could stay with them.
As to any cell company posting their policy on line..well..that can and does change (with Sprint almost daily)..and actually having a written signed contract is something the other companies won't do,AT&T will.That does a lot for me..and for my wife peace of mind.My boys have wanted the I phones for sometime..I don't want one..which is why I am asking about the Captivate. BTW...Sprint elected to change my verbal contract given to me at the time of signing..and I fought it the best I could without turning my Lawyers loose..and I most likely would have won,but the cost to do so would have been prohibitive without a written contract,or so what they told me when I spoke to them about it..
So..the phone has a GPS problem..and that isn't a deal breaker for me,but I do want to see it fixed and soon.Having a 2.2 rom is what I am running on my hero now along with one of the best looking themes going right now IMHO..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797077 and so hopefully we can get this ported over here at some point..even if I have to learn how to do it myself
FWIW..I looked closely at this phone and also the Ios4 and hands down this one blows it out of the water on anything video..I stopped by T-Mobile and watched the HD Avatar movie on their version when I was looking at what they offered...It was just awesome..simply jaw dropping..
I am looking forward to the 2.2 upgrade and what comes after with it..So..I will be on here more and more reading what I can..
Thanks Again
Mac

Mac, just a heads up. The leaked 2.2 rom we have actually fixed the GPS. There's no real problem anymore. Obviously it will become more refined when the final release comes out but it definitely works now.
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stuffy is a difficult company but I can't feral with poor service so I disk with them. get used to advanced features like tethering being blocked and such. but you can fix that by looking in the dev section. att isn't all bad though mostly because they are stupid, I told them verizon had a 15% vetrans discount (they do) and asked att if they had something similar. well they didn't but the customer service rep put me on an active duty discount because she didn't know better. it needs to be approved at a higher level with pics of my id and a valid military email according to there website, well I put the papers in anyway and had 15% off my bill the next month. so they obviously don't look at it.
verizons version of bloatware is full blown add ware. if you plug an incredible into a windows pc it hijacks explorer and goes to a v cast music site. on the fascinate they replaced the google services with microsoft services.
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I think it's refreshing to see all the honest answers, not a ton of chest pounding "our phone is the best" posts. Most people on XDA by nature are into tweaking so the out-of-the-box limitations aren't a showstopper.
For me, I really need a world-capable phone. My family also is on ATT so that helped as well. I think all the carriers are converging on offering similar product. ATT has less HTC stuff but has the IPhone. ATT is currently behind on Android, but the Captivate is certainly helping to address that. I like the phone and have recommended it friends. Go for it.

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Mac, just a heads up. The leaked 2.2 rom we have actually fixed the GPS. There's no real problem anymore. Obviously it will become more refined when the final release comes out but it definitely works now.
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Cool..that is good news..
Thanks
Mac

I will give my two bits. My experience has been good with att. Cs has never been bad, but at times there were moments that did not go smoothly. Always quick to address concerns of mine and they love giving credits out to keep me happy. I have been one of the lucky that never had major problems out of the box with the captivate. But coming from a storm running on atti think my standard were lower. Gps on froyo still doesn't work perfectly but has had improvement with locking and tracking. Dev support is actually really good so that is a big plus. My wife loves her captivate and she is not a techie at all. Hope my input helps.
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flashman2002 said:
I will give my two bits. My experience has been good with att. Cs has never been bad, but at times there were moments that did not go smoothly. Always quick to address concerns of mine and they love giving credits out to keep me happy. I have been one of the lucky that never had major problems out of the box with the captivate. But coming from a storm running on atti think my standard were lower. Gps on froyo still doesn't work perfectly but has had improvement with locking and tracking. Dev support is actually really good so that is a big plus. My wife loves her captivate and she is not a techie at all. Hope my input helps.
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It does,and greatly appreciated..
I understand the gps issue,and I am wondering if the delayed release of FroYo on this phone is partly because of it. Rooting and adding on customs roms has been working great for me on my Hero..and that phone is finnally acting the way it should have all along. Removing AT&T's bloatware will be my first priority after 2.2 is released..
I am curious about one thing..I know you can't load 3rd party apps unless rooted and a custom rom..but can you direct push them with the sd out of the phone and in a reader from a pc ? If we are working out of windows and a terminal..we should be able to insert any .apk or what we want.. anywhere we want..can't we ?
Thanks Again Guys
Mac

mobius911 said:
I think it's refreshing to see all the honest answers, not a ton of chest pounding "our phone is the best" posts. Most people on XDA by nature are into tweaking so the out-of-the-box limitations aren't a showstopper.
For me, I really need a world-capable phone. My family also is on ATT so that helped as well. I think all the carriers are converging on offering similar product. ATT has less HTC stuff but has the IPhone. ATT is currently behind on Android, but the Captivate is certainly helping to address that. I like the phone and have recommended it friends. Go for it.
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Same here..I know folks have their favorites and also know there will always be folks that have problems..but it is refreshing to see a honest straight forward discussion with out any of the fan fair these types of threads always seem to degenerate into.
Mac

Mac11700 said:
I am curious about one thing..I know you can't load 3rd party apps unless rooted and a custom rom..but can you direct push them with the sd out of the phone and in a reader from a pc ? If we are working out of windows and a terminal..we should be able to insert any .apk or what we want.. anywhere we want..can't we ?
Thanks Again Guys
Mac
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You can push them using ADB or even easier, if you google something called the "Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine" or just sideload wonder machine, someone created an app to so that you don't even have to use the command prompt or hack the phone. No need for a custom rom, and I don't believe rooting is needed.
Here, I'll link you to it.
SIDELOAD WONDER MACHINE

I made the switch you are thinking of about 1.5 years ago and I have no regrets. One thing to keep in mind is the data cap ATT now has on their new subscribers. I signed up when unlimited was an offering, and honestly I don't know that I would have been comfortable using 1 smartphone, let alone 3-4 of them with limited data usage. ATT also had better coverage where I lived last year but would say Sprint is on par within the city limits now. The Evo is a really nice phone (Several people I know have them and are pleased) but I won't go back to Sprint after all the horrible customer service I had with them for 8 years. My local ATT business rep does an incredible job and is a big reason that I just renewed with them(they let me keep unlimited data). Ultimately, if I was in your shoes, I would probably do what made my family/wife happy as long as it isn't going to cause financial heartache when you exceed the data limit. I think they charge in blocks of 200mb for overage but you should definitely look into how much data your family has/will be using. My .02
Edited to add: Depending on what kind of user you are (business/personal) you might want to leave that cog. 2.2 alone until it works. I loaded it last weekend, went out to a job, and was unable to d-load an important pdf that was in my e-mail. Fortunately I had a laptop but in the past I would have been able to count on my phone for a quick blueprint reference. Sounds like it may be a fun thing to play with as long as you don't REALLY need everything on your phone to work. Also, the GPS was horrid on cog. 2.2. Needless to say I flashed it back to the original software when I got home. My GPS works just fine after the JH7 OTA update was installed. Worked yesterday on a 2 hour drive where I only had phone coverage for 20-30 miles. I haven't "tweaked" the GPS settings, just whatever they changed with JH7 is working.

itsjustaphone said:
I made the switch you are thinking of about 1.5 years ago and I have no regrets. One thing to keep in mind is the data cap ATT now has on their new subscribers. I signed up when unlimited was an offering, and honestly I don't know that I would have been comfortable using 1 smartphone, let alone 3-4 of them with limited data usage. ATT also had better coverage where I lived last year but would say Sprint is on par within the city limits now. The Evo is a really nice phone (Several people I know have them and are pleased) but I won't go back to Sprint after all the horrible customer service I had with them for 8 years. My local ATT business rep does an incredible job and is a big reason that I just renewed with them(they let me keep unlimited data). Ultimately, if I was in your shoes, I would probably do what made my family/wife happy as long as it isn't going to cause financial heartache when you exceed the data limit. I think they charge in blocks of 200mb for overage but you should definitely look into how much data your family has/will be using. My .02
Edited to add: Depending on what kind of user you are (business/personal) you might want to leave that cog. 2.2 alone until it works. I loaded it last weekend, went out to a job, and was unable to d-load an important pdf that was in my e-mail. Fortunately I had a laptop but in the past I would have been able to count on my phone for a quick blueprint reference. Sounds like it may be a fun thing to play with as long as you don't REALLY need everything on your phone to work. Also, the GPS was horrid on cog. 2.2. Needless to say I flashed it back to the original software when I got home. My GPS works just fine after the JH7 OTA update was installed. Worked yesterday on a 2 hour drive where I only had phone coverage for 20-30 miles. I haven't "tweaked" the GPS settings, just whatever they changed with JH7 is working.
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Dam good advise..Thanks
They charge in 1 gig allotments for overages now..not 200 mb. I too was worried about doing just this..and this is per line..not per plan. I went back through all of my bills and no-one has even come close to 1gig..let alone 2 gigs..but I understand that can change too.
The main thing for me and my family is getting a phone that is going to work..every time. I've run into some issues with mine on my job where I needed it and something crashed it. Also it's so tiresome for me to hear all the complaints and moaning when something crashes or FC's on their phones..I can deal with it happening on mine cause I am used to tinkering with it..but I have to say I am very tempted some by the I 4's simplicity...it would be nice just to not have to worry about updating mine almost daily,and just use the durn thing. I just don't know if I could deal with it or not as a day to day phone. I am at a loss in that regards..I know you can jailbreak them and do similar things we do with our Androids..but..I don't know enough about that to even consider doing it right now. I most likely would just so I could download apps and movies on it to watch from my pc..I got a week to figure this all out..and you all here are helping a-lot..
Thanks
Mac

I honestly liked the iphone4, and had one for a week. It was fun and all, but it had the same problem as my 3G, the ability to make and MAINTAIN a phone call. Obviously that isn't much of an issue for younger kids since you can still text with spotty coverage(my 13 yo uses about 60 min. a month and 1,000,000,000,000 text messages) I don't know if the iphone is somehow on a different signal than the other phones, but I have been very pleased with the PHONE CALL ability of the captivate. My wife loves the iphone (though she keeps eyeballing the captivate now) and like you, I do not enjoy fixing problems, so I have tried my best to keep her interest in my phone at a minimum. I can honestly say I do not miss the iphone for anything. I also enjoy the *cough cough* wireless tethering of my captivate(free app) that iphone never did get right(and when it did work, there was the whole loss of signal issue). The iphone is good at running apps and texting, outstanding even. I just really need to make phone calls and MAINTAIN a call when I make it. But like I said in my previous post, if your use is personal, iphone might work. If you make important calls, it fails.

[Q] Is it worth getting a G1??

Hey all,
I'm wanting to get another Android phone as I got rid of my HTC Wildfire. I'm thinking about getting the G1 as its cheap and seems as though it can perform well.
I'm looking at buying one that is locked to T-Mobile and has the newest carrier updates on. My question is can it be unlocked? and does Cyanogen mod perform well?
Thanks!

It would be worth having one now, but getting one from fresh... that would depend on how cheap you can get one and if you think you need a hard-QWERTY. The G1 is quite old... and you may be more content with adding more funds for a G2.

I recently bought a G1 for cheap, and it is great currently have it running gingerbread which works really quite well, a lot more so then i thought cyanogenmon 6 did.
I also believe that they can be unlocked quite easily as well

Thanks for the info

I'm looking at a G1 also, coming from a CDMA Moment with 2.2.2 and looking to switch to GSM. The Moment has a faster processor(?) but is not a very good at some things, like being a phone. Is the G1 a good PHONE? I can get a good ROM for the things I want but does the phone part work well?

G1 okay phone, easy to mod. if you like tinkering.
G1 is an okay phone. My partner at work uses a Blackberry, he can't hear the person at the other end without an ear piece, I don't have that issue on my G1.
I do NOT love my G1, it's bulky/heavy and I don't feel the build quality is as good as some of the other phones. The Speaker is on the back of the phone, opposite from the display - seriously who does that? Samsung for example always puts the speaker above the main screen.
The Keyboard has very small keys but it IS a 5 row keyboard, you can get good with some practice, but some of the newer phones, ex: T-Mobile Sidekick 4G has a keyboard/CPU/display that I almost can't believe how good it is, however they have the dumbest overlay I've ever seen, haha, can't have it all I guess.
The G1 is reliable, it's just not very pretty, if it's cheap, it's a deal.

Hi,
I am contemplating putting my G1 up for sale.
It is the one in my Signature.
Lemme know.
Heeter

If you don't play big games, g1 is enough, however, you cannot buy a new one now.
If I were you, I will buy another new phone.

I suggest a HTC Wildfire at least :/ g1 is maybe just too slow even for normal use if your gonna even get apps :'(

Honestly, no. Get a higher end device and you will be much happier.. I just got a HD2 and it is a huge improvement over the G1, and very worth investing in.
The G1 can't run many of the apps on market because it is too slow, including live wallpapers, angry birds rio, etc..

It depends on how much you can get if for. I got mine for US$50 used a few weeks a go. It's really slow and low on capacity but it's a great entry phone to Android for me. Learned a lot with it. It works great as a phone. And the best part is, if I brick it, I will not feel bad. Just pull the SIM and move to the next cheap phone I can find.
Just saw someone selling one for $30 on craigslist. I would definitely get that one if I haven't got this one.

I completely agree with the above statement ^^

I would love to get an G1 for a nice 2nd/back up phone since my bb 8900 curve have self rebooting problems
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Defective GPS hardware: get another phone, HTC preferably

I just wanted to warn poor souls like me.
A couple of months ago when I was trying to decide wich phone to get, I read in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_Series
that for some users sometimes the GPS migh be a little inconsistent, or something like that. Now I see this text has changed to something more accurate,
PLEASE READ IT
This devices GPS' is just plain DEFECTIVE. Period.
If you don't need GPS then go ahead, but this was not my case and now I am bitterly regretting having bought a SGS. It only works on the highway, and not always. In the city is just plain useless. My old Tytyn II and my wife's ACE are much much much much better at this. I mean it's not that they are better: they work an the SGS don't.
I have tried several patches and several modems. This is pure fantasy, nothing is going to fix a defective hardware.
It is also very irresponsible form samsung not issuing a recall or something. Never again will i buy a Samsung phone.
very frustaed here. regards.

Check your build number. If it is 1010 or earlier, then you have a well-known bad GPS. They started fixing phones that were made or refurbished after November 2010. If your build is 1012 or 11xx, then your phone should have a fixed GPS.
My 1101 is much better than my 1007. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done. Most of the time it's dead-on accurate, but it jumps every once in a while, putting me on a side street.
I took my 1007 to an AT&T device center, told them the GPS is not acceptable and that it shuts down on its own once in a while (also true), and they exchanged my phone with no problem. Try returning it to a device center. If they exchange the phone for you, test out the GPS until you get one that locks fast.

yup, mine's a 1007, so that's it, I have a well know defective phone and there's propably nothing I can do about it since I bought it used on ebay and brought it to Spain, both at&t and Samsung would probably laugh at my face if I ask for an exchange here.
as I said, never again Samsung, too irresponsible.
thanks,

I have a 1007 that I bought on the very day it was first released. Some ROM's seem to make the GPS work very well. I'm on CM7.1 now and it works pretty good. Its not as flawless as my friends DroidX or iPhone but it locs within about 10-15 secs and once its locked it stays locked.
Try different ROMs. I had good experience with FireFly 3.0, Cog 2.2Beta7 or Beta8, CM7.1.
A few of them I could even get a GPS lock indoors. I cant do that with CM7.1 but as long as I'm outside it works very well.

You really should rename this thread "Let's bash Samsung"

mcongosto said:
yup, mine's a 1007, so that's it, I have a well know defective phone and there's propably nothing I can do about it since I bought it used on ebay and brought it to Spain, both at&t and Samsung would probably laugh at my face if I ask for an exchange here.
as I said, never again Samsung, too irresponsible.
thanks,
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lol. Good, go to HTC (they will treat you even worse if you have any problems) at least I won't have to sift through any more useless threads made by you in Samsung sections.

derek4484 said:
I have a 1007 that I bought on the very day it was first released. Some ROM's seem to make the GPS work very well. I'm on CM7.1 now and it works pretty good. Its not as flawless as my friends DroidX or iPhone but it locs within about 10-15 secs and once its locked it stays locked.
Try different ROMs. I had good experience with FireFly 3.0, Cog 2.2Beta7 or Beta8, CM7.1.
A few of them I could even get a GPS lock indoors. I cant do that with CM7.1 but as long as I'm outside it works very well.
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I've heard people talking about ROMs improving GPS, but that the improvements were temporary. I experienced this, too.
The GPS on the phone when I got it (Eclair) was decent in clear weather. It took a while to lock, but once there, generally stuck. It seriously sucked in cloudy/rainy weather, though. I installed the Paragon RC6 ROM, and the GPS was amazing for a few months. It went to hell really fast, though, getting to the point where it wouldn't even lock outside on a crystal clear day. I restored the phone to stock Eclair hoping the GPS would return to the original state, but it remained practically unusable.
I've heard others say that some ROMs had awesome GPS functionality to start and then ended up being worse than the original. YMMV, but something to keep an eye out for.

this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..

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this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..
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That's exactly what I said, captivate is a great phone if you don't care much about GPS, but that's not my case. I have had several smartphone with GPS in the past and they all worked much better.
I wish I've read a rant like mine before making my decision. Everybody was so "mature" that no one said anything anymore.
I think is normal to be disappointed with Samsung. It seems that is a proven fact that old builds are defective, so it should be much more easier to exchange them. No receipt or warranty needed, free shipping worldwide. But I guess that's not how it works...

viny2cool said:
this is after many months that I saw any thread about Captivate GPS, i think we captivate users matured enough to deal with crappy gps in our phones.....
I think if you really want good gps buy one of ebay.....just becoz your phone cant use google's Navigation Beta doesnt mean its useless....see the other good thing abt it..
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"Matured enough to deal with crappy gps"? Not sure about you, but the Captivate was my first smartphone, and I bought it long before ever finding XDA. I bought it based on specs, the promise of Froyo, and screen quality. It was only after I bought it and got locked into a 2-year contract that I discovered that the GPS sucked. And I had never owned another Android phone, so I had no basis of comparison for how good/bad a phone's GPS should be...except my boss' Droid X, which wasn't an option for me because I didn't care for the screen. The turn-by-turn navigation was one of the features that attracted me to Android over iOS.
I understand the GPS situation NOW, but when I bought the phone a year ago, the box said it had GPS, so I was naturally...um..."disappointed" that it didn't work. I considered it false advertising. I paid a lot of money for the phone..."dealing with a crappy GPS" isn't something I was willing to do for $100 down and $100 a month. That's too much money for a broken phone.
I ultimately got so fed up with it and some other issues that I brought the phone into a device center and got it replaced. GPS is fixed and works much better. Now it's really only the intermittent, ridiculous lag in the phone that gets on my nerves...but I'm much happier when driving in unfamiliar areas.

mrhaley30705 said:
You really should rename this thread "Let's bash Samsung"
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This would be funny if Samsung wasnt bashing themselves by releasing a product with broken features. It might be a rant we have all heard before but its still right. While I really do enjoy my captivate, I probably wont buy another Samsung device due to all of the issues.