This is a build I put together yesterday... It's basically stock ROM with the bloatware removed along with most sense elements... I'm working on a more pure vanilla, but builds thus far are really unstable. This build has been stable on my phone- with the exception of Rosie Utility FC at startup that I can't figure out since Rosie is gone. Wifi tether is enabled, google apps are included, su and busybox are installed and working, and I'm using launcher2 for now. Try it out and see what you think- nothing special, but it's something to play with until the pros release something great...
link removed- see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713316 for newest work...
I am getting major force closes on every thing when it boots up. Am I doing anything wrong. The only ROM I can get to work is the cyan test rom.
Acore is one of the force close but there are many when it boots.
did you wipe before install? I haven't had these problems... so it's hard to tell you what's going on- sorry it's not working for you though...
I did do a wipe but not sure if I am doing it right. It does seem like it is installing both roms. What is the best way to wipe?
In clockwork recovery select wipe data/factory reset... then wipe cache partition.
Yeah I finally got to wipe. Thanks for the help
Any chance you will get a version of this with the stock android dialer and phone.apk (i.e. like the Nexus One)?
That's where I'm headed eventually... I'm trying to figure out how to get nexus over to the inc, but the gsm/cdma thing is busting my ass... So far I have it loading with working hardware, but it won't join the damn network...
DobbsianYeti said:
This is a build I put together yesterday... It's basically stock ROM with the bloatware removed along with most sense elements... I'm working on a more pure vanilla, but builds thus far are really unstable. This build has been stable on my phone- with the exception of Rosie Utility FC at startup that I can't figure out since Rosie is gone. Wifi tether is enabled, google apps are included, su and busybox are installed and working, and I'm using launcher2 for now. Try it out and see what you think- nothing special, but it's something to play with until the pros release something great...
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just to help out, from experimenting with rom building myself i came across this:
Search the XDA-developers forum for "Safely remove Rosie.apk on FreshToast 1.1?" (I cannot post a link because its a new account sorry)
its meant for the HTC Hero BUT it explains that you want to get rid of HtcAddProgramWidget.apk to make that FC go away.
the question is will that break anything, try it and find out
I flashed your rom and saw the FC then "rm HtcAddProgramWidget.*" and the FC went away in the setup process. idk if it breaks anything else when you actually use the phone though. good luck!
mechinn said:
just to help out, from experimenting with rom building myself i came across this:
Search the XDA-developers forum for "Safely remove Rosie.apk on FreshToast 1.1?" (I cannot post a link because its a new account sorry)
its meant for the HTC Hero BUT it explains that you want to get rid of HtcAddProgramWidget.apk to make that FC go away.
the question is will that break anything, try it and find out
I flashed your rom and saw the FC then "rm HtcAddProgramWidget.*" and the FC went away in the setup process. idk if it breaks anything else when you actually use the phone though. good luck!
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Nice- thanks for the help...
I'd like to see a stock dialer work with verizon to troubleshoot an issue.
A weird issue which not many people have seemed to mention is the fact that you can't make multiple calls with Verizon. Perhaps its a verizon limitation? I am new to verizon so I am not sure.. When I mean make multiple calls, all you can do with the stock incredible is place a call, add a call and then conference it. You cannot put your first call on hold, make a second call and then go back to the first call. The phone app will only allow you to conference it. Also when you hit end calls its ends both calls..
The EVO does not have this problem, but it being on sprint perhaps they support it.. As both are CDMA networks I believe it should work with the incredible?
I would love a senseless rom with the stock android dialer. I would be ok with sense but the sense dialer is a pos. i just hate it.
If you have something like Dialer One installed, it's actually ok to delete HtcDialer.apk and HtcDialer.odex from /system/app. You can say goodbye to the Sense dialer. Even if you still use the Sense launcher, when you press Phone it will bring up Dialer One and will not fc on you.
I finally put together a stock nexus rom for the Inc, but I'm having the same issues as the cyanogenmod... says TCDMA64 at the top and the damn camera won't work... does anybody know how to properly deodex the stock apps from the Inc.? Try as I might I can't get it to work...
On a brighter note- it's fast, and light... just won't take pictures...
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I'm using damage control and I used his JIT thing cause people on here talk about it a lot and it said disable sense.. So I'm guessing that meant don't check it? Now my phone keeps re booting. How can i fix this.. I didn't nandriod back up so is there a easy way to do it by just remaining or something? Thanks
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I'm using damage control and I used his JIT thing cause people on here talk about it a lot and it said disable sense.. So I'm guessing that meant don't check it? Now my phone keeps re booting. How can i fix this.. I didn't nandriod back up so is there a easy way to do it by just remaining or something? Thanks
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You're gonna have to go to an older nandroid. Sense and JIT just don't play well.
What you should have done is checked "Sense Apps" in the "Banned Apps" screen.
Keep in mind that any sense widget, like the HTC clock, and I think the rosie will stop working.
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You're gonna have to go to an older nandroid. Sense and JIT just don't play well.
What you should have done is checked "Sense Apps" in the "Banned Apps" screen.
Keep in mind that any sense widget, like the HTC clock, and I think the rosie will stop working.
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Rosie= sense ui
And yes everything htc will not work, wallpapers will give you problems, htc lockscreen gives you problems and every widget connected to sense.
You will need to make sure they are banned in dconfig before you enable jit and reboot.
I know im just restating somethings but im just putting it all in one spot. Making it clear lol
DevinXtreme said:
You're gonna have to go to an older nandroid. Sense and JIT just don't play well.
What you should have done is checked "Sense Apps" in the "Banned Apps" screen.
Keep in mind that any sense widget, like the HTC clock, and I think the rosie will stop working.
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Rosie= sense ui
And yes everything htc will not work, wallpapers will give you problems, htc lockscreen gives you problems and every widget connected to sense.
You will need to make sure they are banned in dconfig before you enable jit and reboot.
I know im just restating somethings but im just putting it all in one post to make it clear. lol
MyDroidHax said:
I'm using damage control and I used his JIT thing cause people on here talk about it a lot and it said disable sense.. So I'm guessing that meant don't check it? Now my phone keeps re booting. How can i fix this.. I didn't nandriod back up so is there a easy way to do it by just remaining or something? Thanks
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you could manually pull the required files. not sure what they are, but you can manually edit the DConf file that lists banned programs, etc.
Funny you guys talking about this i just went from the new fresh rom not toast to damage because i tried to get jit to work on the most recent fresh and my phone went in a boot loop after trying to install JIT on it. It works fine for the new damage control tho... even though i manually installed it and didnt know dc config had the option for it all along otherwise this phone is runnin like a crackhead who stole my car radio.
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Funny you guys talking about this i just went from the new fresh rom not toast to damage because i tried to get jit to work on the most recent fresh and my phone went in a boot loop after trying to install JIT on it. It works fine for the new damage control tho... even though i manually installed it and didnt know dc config had the option for it all along otherwise this phone is runnin like a crackhead who stole my car radio.
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I did this by accident too ... and during the force close SenseUI loop, it let me get to dconfig (after like 15 force closes) really quickly and uncheck JIT.
Don't swipe the lock screen while JIT + SenseUI enabled either, use Menu, it's more responsive.
This is a senseless rom. Works great.
You can grab it from here:
http://inc.sodpit.com/roms/ozzeh/
Just installed this rom. It seems to work pretty smooth but when I went into accounts to add gmail it doesnt list it as an option. A big part of the phone experience is having this integration but it looks like it has been taken out. If I am missing something please let me know.
Thanks for the effort!
http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/ you need to install google apps
You can also add your gmail account to the native Mail App but, that takes away from the senseless feel though.
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
kentoe said:
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
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I've never used it but, from what I hear it doesn't work yet.
CaptainTaco said:
My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
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I just installed it this morning around 6am so far the battery life is alot better but, I'm use to having over fifty apps installed. Give it a day or two, for some real results.
Can't download
When I click the link to download, it just redirects me back to the same page. When I click the apps link, get a cannot be found error.
Anybody else experiencing this??
edit...nevermind. You have to download from the roms.sodpit.com frontpage. Won't download from http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/roms/ozzeh/apps.zip
LOVING the home screen rotation, AH finally! Might actually stick with this one for a bit after I try out jager 1.1
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But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
can't get this to flash. MD5 sum is correct and everything seems fine but it hangs at the white incredible boot screen forever! Tried everything but it never works, Oh well.
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
ozzeh, my nandroid backups got screwed up. Your unrevolved rom is my default rom for now, hope it'll support me
Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
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Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
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yes! SMS backup and restore in the market or Titanium Back up. SMS backup and restore does not need root but ii recommend it 100%!
For some reason Gmail and Google Talk have the 'unknown' android icon, and they both force close when trying to launch... what did I do wrong? Market works fine. I tried applying apps.zip downloaded (twice) from my laptop and once from inside the phone browser to no avail.
ejkeebler said:
But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
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for me the facebook integration is still essentially the same. and i say that because you can still link all ur facebook contacts to google. also sharing is still the same, as the facebook app for android is the same for sense as well. Now, the caveat to this is I came from my sprint Hero phone with no sense and that is how it worked. Also, I have not personally used this ROM yet.
Honestly77 said:
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
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Considering I am having the same problem, do tell, what error on our end would it be? I mean, yeah, the phone was wiped. The MD5s match. So whats the issue?
Its easy to say user error, its quite another to actually help someone out and explain the problem. If you don't know, then don't say it.
I've compiled my own roms for the Moto Droid, and have never had issues flashing them. I think I am qualified enough to flash a copy and paste job.
Is this what you have to do to apply the rom?
1 Download the build.
2 Rename it to "update.zip".
3 Copy it to the root of your phone's SD card.
4 Turn your phone off.
5 Start up in recovery mode by holding Home and pressing Power.
6 Press ALT+W to wipe your device. (You need to do this, or the device may hang at the flashing Android screen)
7 Press ALT+S to apply the update.
One other thing, if this is truly a sense free ROM, I wonder if JIT will play nice with it. I know JIT hated Sense, perhaps someone with the ROM installed wants to give it a try? I'll try it out later if I have time to install the rom.
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Wonderful job
dzo, incubus26jc, kallt_kaffe are the leaders.
Not to forget OTHERS and you as well th3lolz who make things easier.
I wished this was here when it was there, but this is now and that was then.
This will really help the ones without browsing/data plans. Great contribution!
is the link broken ?
edit : probably its just my connection, still can't download it.
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Thanks, this is great
its so clean without the unnecessary icons and more space for other apps
EDIT: One question, I tried out Flex dialer and i cant seem to get it to work, I just get an "I'm sorry" error when it dials my voice number.
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th3lolz said:
Yeah I had the same problem, go to the flex dialer configuration settings, and change the dial pattern from "A,B,2,C#" to "A,p,B,2,C#"
It no longer gives the "I'm sorry" error and works great for outgoing calls
I'll add it to the OP too to make it easier in the future, I thought that it was just me.
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Thanks, That worked great
Hi, I installed this last night, but for whenever my phone is in sleep mode, it keeps randomly rebooting. Is there a way to stop this?
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th3lolz said:
Hmm... I've never had that happen before
Which nbh are you using?
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This one voguimg-240x320-froyo-26-07-10.nbh from here: it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
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hi
I have htc elf
I want to know that can I install it on my phone or not ?
tnx
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This is nice...
I just installed in my vogue, and all work as well.
Camera work fine, with the setting pop-up when i touch the icon, except for zoom function, if i touch it, camera would stop.
With task killer, i see 2 running services that usually not show up in other build.
"android keyboard" and "pl.magot.vet..."
does it took a lot of memory ?
it won't close at all..
EDIT : it's ancal process, can i uninstall it as well as GPS test, because my vogue doesnt have GPS.
Hope would be more performance improvement with next release, and might be some black theme as default...
Btw, eclair + no data plan and app replacement would be nice to have.
Thank you th3lolz for this build,
i think i will keep it run it my vogue untill there's a new release with more light build.
Here's another one, while the screen locked, signal bar would present the actual signal of the phone, when you unlocked it, the signal bar would drop, but looks like it doesnt effect when i making a call.
Is there a way to get Incubus26Jc's Darkstar theme without having to install the his androidinstall.tar? They have all the other theme's androidupdate, but none for the ROM's theme. >.<
Ahiko said:
Is there a way to get Incubus26Jc's Darkstar theme without having to install the his androidinstall.tar? They have all the other theme's androidupdate, but none for the ROM's theme. >.<
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You could try to unpack the androidupdate.tar and your android ROM you like, find the different, do some adjustment script, and repackage it again. I think you could use some different theme for your android....
th3lolz,
with this build, i got a lot of missed call, the screen doesn't wake up for incoming call. i hope this will fixed soon.
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th3lolz said:
Did you try Incubus' build? - I'm pretty sure I didn't remove anything that would cause that
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Yes, i already try all the android from all dev;
all incubus android, all myn's android, also dzo and Kallt_Kaffe, and i prefer to choose your build for my daily use.
With incubus' build, it also happen, and all things more slower then your build, and i prefer to choose not using rogue tools for more battery life.
With your build there's no need to use rogue tools.
And more clean from unused apps and more responsive when i push some button ( -menu, dialer, home, etc ... )
Sorry if i ask you too much...
and thanks for your support...
I have tried a few ROMs here for my Hero and am not finding anything for what I need. Maybe I haven't looked enough but I have looked.
I have tried the Blue Froyo and Darch's 2.8 and neither let me play any of the music I have on my sdcard in a file called Music. On the stock ROM music player they show up just fine.
I also am having an issue with both not letting me use my voice mail properly, I have found the VVM zip and this only solves part of the issue for me. I still don't get proper notification of new messages. Instead I am getting two or more messages from 9016 for each new voice mail.
Any one point me towards a ROM that helps with both of these? Non-sense preferred but not a must. Sorry for being lazy but there are so many ROMs here and trying them all just to test these two things out would be very time consuming and asking these questions in all threads would be very redundant.
Try CM6.
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chefthomas99 said:
Try CM6.
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If you mean the nightly, I have and maybe I'm too picky because it isn't themed like the blue froyo is. It also has these two issues I'm asking about so that won't help.
Anyone else have a suggestion for me?
You may need to reformat your SD card. There's really no reason it wouldn't play files from a "Music" folder unless it's having trouble reading the SD card somehow. Try reformatting the SD card (after backing up everything on it) and then reload all the files on it and try again.
As for the voicemail thing, on any AOSP-based ROM (DD, CM) those notifications from 9016 won't go away....it's kinda how android tells the Sprint VVM that a voicemail has been received, but to my knowledge no one has figured out how to disable those texts from coming in. Using Handcent SMS (an app from the market), you can supposedly blacklist the 9016 number but I'm not sure if that's a complete fix because I've never tried it myself. Most or even all Sense-based ROMs don't get that text.
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You may need to reformat your SD card. There's really no reason it wouldn't play files from a "Music" folder unless it's having trouble reading the SD card somehow. Try reformatting the SD card (after backing up everything on it) and then reload all the files on it and try again.
As for the voicemail thing, on any AOSP-based ROM (DD, CM) those notifications from 9016 won't go away....it's kinda how android tells the Sprint VVM that a voicemail has been received, but to my knowledge no one has figured out how to disable those texts from coming in. Using Handcent SMS (an app from the market), you can supposedly blacklist the 9016 number but I'm not sure if that's a complete fix because I've never tried it myself. Most or even all Sense-based ROMs don't get that text.
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Thanx I'll try that when I get home as I'm at work right now. Strange that all sense roms I've tried see my music fine but not these two which of course are my favorites. Came from a moment so sense is weird to me.
The voicemail thing I guess I'll learn to live with as I'm reserving an epic tomorrow @ RS.
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Edit: ever have one of those moments where you say to yourself "why didn't I think of that" ? Well I should have but I feel so stupid I can't even think enough to do that right now...formating the sdcard did the trick....thanx again
Bump...so one of the 9016 messages I got for vvm looks like a command to turn on a notification. Just curious if this has been looked into. Maybe we could get this to work by tweaking the command or maybe the command isn't being ran because the receiving app needs tweaking?
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raiderep said:
If you mean the nightly, I have and maybe I'm too picky because it isn't themed like the blue froyo is. It also has these two issues I'm asking about so that won't help.
Anyone else have a suggestion for me?
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2.2 works just fine for me... music plays perfectly and theres a black mod theme in themes and apps for 2.2 which is by far the best theme i've seen for an android
DirtyShroomz said:
2.2 works just fine for me... music plays perfectly and theres a black mod theme in themes and apps for 2.2 which is by far the best theme i've seen for an android
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I have seen that one, I am kinda partial to the blue froyo theme but I noticed that the nightly isn't themed. I will try that one out for theming the nightly, thanks. I've played with theming on another phone but haven't quite figured it out yet on the Hero or I'd just make one myself.
I have a rooted sprint hero running aosp mod (latest stable, not gingerbread - don't remember the version number). Up until Sunday everything was working fine. Sunday evening I noticed that I hadn't gotten any texts all day (highly unusual). Started to text my fiancée, didn't recieve a response. Called her a couple hours later, she said she'd recieved them and replied. I figured it was a sprint issue and would pass by the next day. Next day, still nothing. Stood next to a friend of mine, had him text me, nothing. Sent him a text and he received it almost instantly. As of today I still can't recieve texts, though everything else works just fine. Is this a simple software issue on my end that can be fixed by reflashing my rom? Or is it something more serious that I need to see a sprinnt Rep for? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I saw a guy have this issue with cyanogenmod. He ended up flashing a different rom and all his texts came through at once then. He was using the nightly releases, so I think he just waited until the next nightly came out. You might should just reflash and see if that helps.
This is a common issue. Usually it is due to deleting the stock messaging app because you have handcent or chomp, but those apps pull the info from the stock sms app, so if you deleted it, reinstall it. The other cause is just a known bug in froyo, and though I have never had the issue, many many others have been able to fix it by going into recovery, nandroiding your current setup, wipe EVERYTHING, flash a sense rom, go into settings and update your profile and PRL, then open texts up (you should get a bunch), then going back into recovery, wipe everything again, and restore your nand. Hope this fixes it, good luck.
Sounds good, I'll give it a shot when I get off work. Does it matter what sense rom I flash? More specifically, can I just use an ruu from HTC.com or will I lose my root?
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mushroom_cult said:
Sounds good, I'll give it a shot when I get off work. Does it matter what sense rom I flash? More specifically, can I just use an ruu from HTC.com or will I lose my root?
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RUU takes longer. also, dpending on how you rooted you will probably lose root. just run ANY sense based rom (custom too), fresh,NFX,liquid, whatever, it'll only take like 5-10 minutes. Also, just a hint, make a nand of the sense rom before you go back to your current one, that way you can update your profile/PRL whenever you want. I keep a sense NFX rom in my nand folder for just that.
Or you can wait till I release an updated dualboot script and have both easily accessible. Should be released this week.
Oh, and like some others said, its a problem with froyo and some phones. You might look in the froyo sense thread and try the fix listed in the first post.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Or you can wait till I release an updated dualboot script and have both easily accessible. Should be released this week.
Oh, and like some others said, its a problem with froyo and some phones. You might look in the froyo sense thread and try the fix listed in the first post.
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Can you tell us the specifics of what it will do?
I'll post a link later. I'm still adding to it, but plan on releasing it Friday.
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unCoRrUpTeD dualboot <----Here is the link to the thread that will host everything and my thread in the Hero CDMA developement will be redirected to here also.
il Duce said:
This is a common issue. Usually it is due to deleting the stock messaging app because you have handcent or chomp, but those apps pull the info from the stock sms app, so if you deleted it, reinstall it. The other cause is just a known bug in froyo, and though I have never had the issue, many many others have been able to fix it by going into recovery, nandroiding your current setup, wipe EVERYTHING, flash a sense rom, go into settings and update your profile and PRL, then open texts up (you should get a bunch), then going back into recovery, wipe everything again, and restore your nand. Hope this fixes it, good luck.
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You're awesome. Followed your advice, worked perfectly.
However, I'm now having a separate issue (I assume). All physical keys work fine, with the exception of my home key which does absolutely nothing once the phone boots. Is this a related issue? Did I screw up somewhere along the line?
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You're awesome. Followed your advice, worked perfectly.
However, I'm now having a separate issue (I assume). All physical keys work fine, with the exception of my home key which does absolutely nothing once the phone boots. Is this a related issue? Did I screw up somewhere along the line?
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I have heard of this as well. Can't remember the fix, but it sounds rom related. The home key action is in /system/usr/keylayout/heroc-keypad.kl you can also check there? You could try to re-restore the nand again - wipe ALL first. Also, I know most launchers have home key options, make sure those settings look normal. Also maybe go into your launcher app in settings/apps/manage apps and clear the defaults for it, then see if home does anything. IF that doesn't work search for member "appleflap" on xda, he made a hardkey remapper that you can fix/change the function of the home key.
Reflashed the current nand to no avail. Flashed a clean install of aosp, works fine. I can deal with the loss of my settings, I suppose.
Thanks for all of your help, bud.
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I am actually having a similar issue, but I am periodically not able to send texts. Receive just fine, but some texts fail over and over.
I am running CM 6.1 stable, and using the default text app. Anyone had this issue?
Sorry about the bump, but I did not feel it necessary to create a new thread after I found this one.
Edit: I totally also recognize this could be something to do with the sprint network as well