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Should I get an HTC Touch Diamond?

I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon

please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum

Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen

Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....

There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!

Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.

Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!

Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.

If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.

Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa

Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!

DanGlee said:
And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.

Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.

Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.

RingTone01 said:
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.

Time for some Imagio unlocking and roms!

I just bought an Imagio and will have it tomorrow. We need to get this forum rollin
im a big supporter of NFSFAN's roms after using his rom on my VZW TP and I hope he decides to whip something up for our phones !
Did anyone decide to give the mobile tv a shot? Looks like the kickstand on this phone was made for it

agree with the custom roms, man what do we need to get this goin? im really lookin foward to the coverflow on the new version of tf3d, oh and mobile tv works really well just needs more variety...

I just got mine this morning and am already having flash anxiety. I am used to flash my own cooked omnia roms with close to nothing on them. there is so much stuff on this phone that i don't want, thanks VZW.
So if we are able to get a Hard spl unlock we should be able to use any topaz kitchen as long as we use our OEM right?

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I just got mine this morning and am already having flash anxiety.
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LOL I know what you mean. I haven't even finished cleaning up from unboxing, don't have all my traditional apps on and tested yet and I stop by to see what's cooking in the kitchens already!
I am looking forward to using the phone though. I already seems much better than my Touch Pro.

Ditto here, I just ordered the Imagio today, and already wanted to see what was going on with ROMs lol.

I am wondering if anyone has contacted cmonex on weather or not she has considered helping us out with the HSPL. I am getting my phone in the Morning and I really hope we dont have to wait long. I will be around to help out with what ever I can.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91525
There is a HardSPL placeholder thread now.

tethering to laptop
Hey all! Anyone know if/how you can tether to a laptop for use as a modem.. Kinda need it..

Imagio can tether
Yup, works great tethered, just go get PdaNet from June Fabics dot com.

Lets, go.
We desperately need to kick it up a few notches. Although I love my imagio there are so many good devices coming out that we need software and features fast. We have an ass load of potential we need this hspl so desperately I hope its coming along. I will donate the hell out of good developers.
Some things I've been thinking of.
We need to make this bad boy use motion commands, implement g-trigger or something similar cooked in.
We need to implement TFLO 3D Build 1920 and tweak it to run fast.
We need the a rom that runs stock, with only tflo running, to be at less than 40% of resources.
We need to be able to read and use 32gb storage cards.

Sweeny Russ said:
We desperately need to kick it up a few notches. Although I love my imagio there are so many good devices coming out that we need software and features fast. We have an ass load of potential we need this hspl so desperately I hope its coming along. I will donate the hell out of good developers.
Some things I've been thinking of.
We need to make this bad boy use motion commands, implement g-trigger or something similar cooked in.
We need to implement TFLO 3D Build 1920 and tweak it to run fast.
We need the a rom that runs stock, with only tflo running, to be at less than 40% of resources.
We need to be able to read and use 32gb storage cards.
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haha.. well said!! it's weird because i don't ever remember a hspl taking this long.. is it because there's something new with the imagio? like some new technology that nobody's worked with yet??

Well, according to another user somewhere that contacted HTC they said that it was a unique device to Verizon so it could be that some time is needed before they can get this one hacked.

coolpoete said:
Well, according to another user somewhere that contacted HTC they said that it was a unique device to Verizon so it could be that some time is needed before they can get this one hacked.
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Yeah, I'm sure!

Yes, we need it. But what we can do is waitting

Well the folks at pccgeeks have posted instructions to unlock the CDMA Touch Pro 2... My understanding is that the Imagio is a "variant" of the CDMA TP2... maybe we'll see a ROM and SIM unlock for the Imagio in the not too distant future.

I'm sure when sprint gets the diamond2 (whitestone) hspl will come very shortly after. Should be next month, thought it might be November 1st, but I haven't heard anything. But is guaranteed to be here within Q4 this year.

For the 18 millionth time, the Whitestone is not the Topaz (Diamond2)!

Kebero said:
For the 18 millionth time, the Whitestone is not the Topaz (Diamond2)!
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why 18, kebero??

no. I realize that but according to phone arena and a local sprint rep their diamond 2 is the whitestone. so chill.

RKnight1983 said:
I am wondering if anyone has contacted cmonex on weather or not she has considered helping us out with the HSPL. I am getting my phone in the Morning and I really hope we dont have to wait long. I will be around to help out with what ever I can.
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I have heard that she is working on it as we speak and should have something in a reasonably short time.

new to WP7...should i get an HD7?

i was thinking of getting an HD7 from craigslist for $275. first of all, and most importantly, is this a fair price? second, i was wondering if you guys can tell me what the HD7 can do in terms of hacking/jailbreak/root (whatever you call it for WP7) and custom roms. also, i want to know if the phone can be unlocked easily. i'm a complete noob on WP, but know my way around android and ios, so thought i might try something different. thanks.

isoDUB said:
i was thinking of getting an HD7 from craigslist for $275. first of all, and most importantly, is this a fair price? second, i was wondering if you guys can tell me what the HD7 can do in terms of hacking/jailbreak/root (whatever you call it for WP7) and custom roms. also, i want to know if the phone can be unlocked easily. i'm a complete noob on WP, but know my way around android and ios, so thought i might try something different. thanks.
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275 isn't bad for a 2 month old phone. As for unlocking, the only form of unlocking, besides SIM, is developer unlocking to sideload any xap you want. At the moment the HD7 is damn near fully functional. Just the other day the guys on here unlocked the secret to tethering on HTC WP7s. We've got registry editors, file explorers, mass storage hack, custom colors for any part of the theme, custom ringtones/alarms/alerts, desktop-device file transfer, copy and paste (coming in the update)...so were doin well. No custom Roms as far as I know though. Unnecessary really. Don't wanna end up with buggy, laggy crap like Android...

eternalemb said:
275 isn't bad for a 2 month old phone. As for unlocking, the only form of unlocking, besides SIM, is developer unlocking to sideload any xap you want. At the moment the HD7 is damn near fully functional. Just the other day the guys on here unlocked the secret to tethering on HTC WP7s. We've got registry editors, file explorers, mass storage hack, custom colors for any part of the theme, custom ringtones/alarms/alerts, desktop-device file transfer, copy and paste (coming in the update)...so were doin well. No custom Roms as far as I know though. Unnecessary really. Don't wanna end up with buggy, laggy crap like Android...
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Android is fully functional right now..It runs better than WM7 if you ask me..

hello00 said:
Android is fully functional right now..It runs better than WM7 if you ask me..
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Don't know what WM7 is but WP7 is much smoother and is faster in general than Android, thanks in part to a GPU accelerated UI. Android has a few features that WP7 doesn't have at the moment but its also 3 years older than the 2 month old WP7.

Android is a fantastic UI, no way you can knock it and the application market is now as huge as the mighty Apples, but I can't see where the development is going on Android, seems the next big step will be not gingerbread with its small additions, but a form of Honeycomb for non tabs, I feel that Android for me seems ever so slightly old, comfortable and roomy, where as WP7 is young, sporty and ready for more and the UI maybe basic, but its fresh and lively to use which makes using it a joy, so I would say going for any WP7 phone at the moment is a good choice.

hello00 said:
Android is fully functional right now..It runs better than WM7 if you ask me..
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HAHA Brilliant! Even the Desire HD is laggy as hell compared to any WP7. What are you smoking and where can I buy it

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HAHA Brilliant! Even the Desire HD is laggy as hell compared to any WP7. What are you smoking and where can I buy it
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+1. Although I don't smoke...

you should deffo get a HD7 as thus far it is the best phone out. I really wanted the samsung omnia 7 but was forced down the hd7 route instead and since doing so i have used the omnia and can say it was the right path for me. Though the phone is quite massive it actually feels very slim and much nicer in the hand as well as looking much sexier.

Correct or not, an HD7 sounds better, as the letter H is pronounced 'aitch'. Since you make the A sound, it seems natural to throw an in front of it.
275 isn't a bad deal. Worst case you could sell it to a third party type phone company. I know of one that currently pays 200 for HD7's.

get multi os device..get an hd2 !!!

sagarjawaress said:
get multi os device..get an hd2 !!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hFoTflJP0
must watch the above video

that HD2 is running the updated ROM coming out next week, of course it'll be faster.

Are you on t mobile? If so and you aren't rushed to get one right away I would say to wait and see for the rumored HTC Mozart that supposedly is coming out very soon. That's what I'm waiting on.
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the Dell Venue Pro (tmo) looks quite nice as well.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd

jimbonics said:
the Dell Venue Pro (tmo) looks quite nice as well.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd
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I've only heard about defects with that phone. Never played with one in person though.
$275 is a great deal considering I bought my fiance an HD7 for $300 off craigslist a few weeks ago.

the Venue Pro not the regular Venue?

Nevermind... I trotted on over to the DVP forum...
yeesh. just bought my boss an 8 gig model earlier today... let's hope it doesn't have these issues!!

The venue is android, the venue pro is windows phone 7 with a portrait keyboard.
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jimbonics said:
Nevermind... I trotted on over to the DVP forum...
yeesh. just bought my boss an 8 gig model earlier today... let's hope it doesn't have these issues!!
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All the issues and the size of the phone are reasons why I want to look elsewhere for windows phone 7 phone. Otherwise, I do like the phone.
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I would say, that you should go for the HD7. It's without any doubt the WP7 device at the moment. Great, big screen, fast OS and much, much more things. I'm totally satisfied with the HD7 although games load a little bit slow. But with the NoDO-Update, games should get a boost from what I've seen. And the HD2-thing: I can't hear it anymore! "Buy a HD2", "If you want a good phone, then buy the HD2". The only good OS that you can have on the HD2 is WP7, 'cause Android on the HD2 is laggy and WM is pretty crappy anyways. And WP7 is the HD7's stock-OS. So, why should one buy the HD2?

help me deside.

Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?

StarF said:
Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?
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I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.

xmoo said:
I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.
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tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?

StarF said:
tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?
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I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.

xmoo said:
I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.
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i am comming from a htc desire, that is running cyanogenmod, and tbh i wouldent be able to live with anything else, than that or a clean android experience.

For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.

kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?

StarF said:
it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?
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He means the stock gingerbread. Not Cyanogenmod.

kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.

tnx for the response, desided to wait it out and see.. TBH unless the cm version for it, is bad, or anything like that, i would probaly buy it. I dont plan on running a stock rom any way, i am considering it just because there is cm for it

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I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.
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TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.

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TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.
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But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?

StarF said:
But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?
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The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)

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The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)
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so just to be clear, if i remove all the lg crapware, the phone will run badly ?i thought it was the other way around.

As things stand OP, I just wouldn't bother with this phone...
Had it nearly a month now.. fantastic hardware but the software sucks big time. Super slow and battery life sucks (probably due to software).
Thoughts of waiting for Gingerbread are all well, but LG managed to screw up the current software so well that I have complete faith that they will also screw up that too.
In a couple of months the Galaxy S2 will be out followed a bit later by the Atrix.. I dare say they won't be perfect but I don't think they can be as bad as LG's "effort"..
I really wish I had a HTC Desire, a 2 year old phone over my O2X...
Don't get me wrong, I love Android to pieces, but IMHO if Google can't sort out the mess that too many manufacturers are making of their OS by sticking their own crap on top and making it awful... it'll just push people towards Apple (who I hate). The man in the street just wants a phone that works and doesn't want to be messing around with custom roms etc.

This phone needs a lot of work to make it useable. Out of the box, this phone was crap, battery died within 10 hours, hanged 2-3 times when charging and browsing and needed to take out the battery.
I have some spare time this weekend and finally tried the vanilla rom from paul. It works perfect! No lg crapware, just pure google.
I'm using opera for my browser, listen to music for 4-5 hours with poweramp, downloaded some apps, play samurai 2, and the battery finally died after 30 hours!

Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.

topanyel said:
Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.
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those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months

You should buy it, cuz it hasent locked bootloader and it very easy phone for the developers, so there will be very good roms, and btw. CM7 is on the way :=)

arielext said:
those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months
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Thanks for feedback.
The problem is that my provider currently sells 3 types of HTC: Wildfire, Desire and Desire HD. HTC DHD would cost 430 EUR which seems too much for me, normal desire would cost nearly as much as O2X.
Also nexus phones are not avaliable at my provider and there are only 3 types of Xperias avaliable from S/E which I dont really like.
I am kinda bound to my current provider so I do not think I have too many possibilities..

[Q] Final verdict . To buy or not 2X ?

Well guys im going to buy my first android on 18 July .! n im really confused by the comments n going through all the treads about the reboot related problems of this phone .! n now im really scared to buy this phone also i want a future proof phone as this will be my last phone from parents n i can buy my next phone after 3-4 yrs only ..! So guys plz help me weather to buy this phone or not .! Even if i get a defective piece will the problem be corrected in future updates or i will have to keep a defective phone for the next 4 years .! Also as in from india does India getting too much defective pieces ? or its just with some people when it comes to India ..
waiting for your suggestion ..!

Based on *my* experience I would not buy this phone again. It's unstable (over 60 recorded reboots since I bought the phone on April 18) and lacks proper support from LG (why does this not surprise me?). In my opinion, LG, again, fails to deliver on it's promises and keeps on spreading lies on whether or not an "update" fixes the reboot problem. I don't see this phone last for more than 2 years of intensive use, let alone 4 years. In that case, go for another brand although I won't start suggesting specific models.
FYI: I'm an experienced Android and used nearly every ROM available to remedy the problems I experienced.

Personally I think this phone is great. I hardly get any reboots or problems.
Install CM7, Paul's Modaco rom or the latest stock release and you'll be fine.
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App

Bebob_NL said:
Based on *my* experience I would not buy this phone again. It's unstable (over 60 recorded reboots since I bought the phone on April 18) and lacks proper support from LG (why does this not surprise me?). In my opinion, LG, again, fails to deliver on it's promises and keeps on spreading lies on whether or not an "update" fixes the reboot problem. I don't see this phone last for more than 2 years of intensive use, let alone 4 years. In that case, go for another brand although I won't start suggesting specific models.
FYI: I'm an experienced Android and used nearly every ROM available to remedy the problems I experienced.
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Well ok thnx

Mason. said:
Personally I think this phone is great. I hardly get any reboots or problems.
Install CM7, Paul's Modaco rom or the latest stock release and you'll be fine.
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App
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So mate u haven't got any problem like this before ? i mean the phone is all ok for ya ? rit ?

I'm also a happy owner of the 2x, that is however because I was able to buy it at less than half the retail price from the company I work at. As a lot of people already have mentioned the phones hardware is really good and by flashing custom ROM's like cm7 or Modace the phone becomes "ok" for everyday usage. However for a smartphone valued over 500€ it is way to buggy to stand up among its competitors in the same price range. Seriously; I simple cannot understand why anybody would buy this phone instead of, for example, the SII or the HTC Sensation. The 2x is a nice phone, no doubt about that, but I would seriosly save a couple of bucks and buy one of the other phones I mentioned = better hardware and working software + working customer support. (btw the camera is also lousy compared to the SII and Sensation - even with the HD mods...)
I'm not a LG hater, and I'm really happy with my 2x - seriously most people are still pretty much amazed by my phone when I'm toying aroung with it running cm7 with SPB Shell 3D, [email protected] 1,5ghz, dsp manager etc. but yeah It seriously cannot be compared to a Sensation or SII

I haven'd hat any reboot both with stock rom and custom roms. In my opinion stock rom was quite well usable except the battery drain. But Paul fixed it quite good, which makes it possible to charge the phone every second day with reasonable constant usage
kind regards

I cant compare to a Sensation or a SII since I haven't touched them but for me at this stage the LG is SUPER. Hope you made a good choice and that you are happy with it!

you buy't
I am a new user of this wonderfull phone. i have waiting a lot of time this phone because is like samsung s2 on the performance but on a price much afordable. On this phone you pay only the hardware and software of the amazing android but on the HTC and Samsung a 10% you pay the logo, the brand. good luck and from my experience i recomend't

I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

pmcguire said:
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
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What do u mean .!!

SpikeNansid said:
I cant compare to a Sensation or a SII since I haven't touched them but for me at this stage the LG is SUPER. Hope you made a good choice and that you are happy with it!
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Ohk thnx mate btw how is the gaming on this phone ?

N0r0 said:
I haven'd hat any reboot both with stock rom and custom roms. In my opinion stock rom was quite well usable except the battery drain. But Paul fixed it quite good, which makes it possible to charge the phone every second day with reasonable constant usage
kind regards
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ohh thats nice to hear thnx for replying

vladutz9 said:
I am a new user of this wonderfull phone. i have waiting a lot of time this phone because is like samsung s2 on the performance but on a price much afordable. On this phone you pay only the hardware and software of the amazing android but on the HTC and Samsung a 10% you pay the logo, the brand. good luck and from my experience i recomend't
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ohh thnx man u know the reboot problem always scared me allot

zebbe77 said:
I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it
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Wow u seemed to be proud of it lol
also bro have u ever felt like running out of ram ? while gaming browsing or multi tasking ?
u know i was really scred after reading the reboot problems of this phone now im happy that im getting +ve views too
also can u tell me how ti multi quote as im unable to do so

anshmiester78900 said:
What do u mean .!!
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http://www.idiomdictionary.com/definition/wouldnt-touch-something-with-a-bargepole.html

zebbe77 said:
I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it
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same here.. great quality and "open" like a google dev phone haha

I have it from the early begining and used only with MoDaCo ROMs , had no problems. Would buy it again.
Actualy I believe that most of the problems other have is because of basebands version incompatibility with instaled RIL...

I like my LG 2X. To me it has the best spec for the price range and good ROM from Paul and CM7. But if money is not a problem, get galaxy S2.