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Total noob needs help - bricked my Tilt

Hello all! First of all, I am a total noob to ROM flashing and the like, so please be nice and bear with me. I am pretty sure I bricked my phone and I am sure hoping you guys can guide me out of this mess.
I have a Tilt and wanted to sim/CID unlock it and flash a cooked rom (had my eye on Dutty's latest Diamond). I spent some time reading up in the wikis, etc. and decided to give it a try. I was using Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer to start. I flased the SPL successfully and was in the process of patching the radio (Step 2) when - wouldn't you know it - I bumped the USB cord and knocked it loose from the PC. Uh oh. I tried to recover but it apparently did not work.
Now, the tilt will not turn on at all unless connected to the PC via USB. Once I connect the USB cord, the device just goes through a continuous loop of the splash screen, constantly trying to reset, but never getting past that point. Now, I CAN get to the bootloader screen by simply holding the camera button while the device is going through one of its resets. Once I get here, it just sits there at the bootloader until I unplug the USB, which powers off the device. On the bootloader screen, it shows the following:
Security Unlocked (at the top)
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
Now, since I could get to bootloader, I decided to try and reflash a ROM. I tried AT&T's original rom and Dutty's ROM. Both seemed to flash OK, but once complete I was still stuck with the same problem. HELP! Where do I go from here? I saw the instructions for frankenkaiser. Would that help? I did not want to attempt it without seeking guidance first. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!!
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looks like your screwed...like a nail....

looks like your screwed...like a nail....
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RU serious? There's nothing I can do from here?

moegdaog said:
looks like your screwed...like a nail....
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Thanks Captain Productive.
To the Original Poster: You may still be able to save your Tilt. You will need mtty and a smart friend. Maybe if you look around you can find one. But, I recommend you compensate him for his time. If he is successful he saved you a $500 paperweight.

Would going through the frankenkaiser steps help?

kldalrymple said:
Would going through the frankenkaiser steps help?
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Hmmm Probably Not.
If I have this understood correct When you reset your phone it goes directly into Bootloader? You can flash 100% a ROM but it still goes into bootloader?
Usually this happens because the bootloader thinks its still in flash mode. You have to use mtty to Clear that flag and boot it and All should be happy.

If I have this understood correct When you reset your phone it goes directly into Bootloader? You can flash 100% a ROM but it still goes into bootloader?
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Well, not quite. First of all, when the phone is not connected to the PC, I can't get it to power on at all using any method. Once I connect to the PC, it acts like it is attempting to boot and goes to the AT&T splash screen. However, after staying on the AT&T splash screen for a few seconds, it simply resets itself and tries to boot again. It will continue in this loop unless I either hold down the camera button (which sends it into bootloader) or unplug the USB cord (which simply powers it off).
It should be noted that when I see the AT&T splash screen, I can not see the rom/radio version, etc.

kldalrymple said:
Well, not quite. First of all, when the phone is not connected to the PC, I can't get it to power on at all using any method. Once I connect to the PC, it acts like it is attempting to boot and goes to the AT&T splash screen. However, after staying on the AT&T splash screen for a few seconds, it simply resets itself and tries to boot again. It will continue in this loop unless I either hold down the camera button (which sends it into bootloader) or unplug the USB cord (which simply powers it off).
It should be noted that when I see the AT&T splash screen, I can not see the rom/radio version, etc.
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well i can save your tilt but it will cost you. if you mess up don't blame me though. I've been there and somehow saved myself by basic computer knowledge and tools available on this forum. I have a wedding to attend in a few hours and I haven't slept yet but you appear in need of some help.

well i can save your tilt but it will cost you. if you mess up don't blame me though. I've been there and somehow saved myself by basic computer knowledge and tools available on this forum. I have a wedding to attend in a few hours and I haven't slept yet but you appear in need of some help.
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Man, I'll take any help I can get at this point. Where do we start?

Sorry to keep bumping this, but can anyone help? I really need some assistance. Thanks!

kldalrymple said:
Sorry to keep bumping this, but can anyone help? I really need some assistance. Thanks!
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PM, GSLEON3, he is the king of recovering " bricked " phones.
P.S. Just remember people spend many hours helping people around here, hours they could be relaxing with their families. So when all is said and done , make with the appreciation. Good Luck

PM, GSLEON3, he is the king of recovering " bricked " phones.
P.S. Just remember people spend many hours helping people around here, hours they could be relaxing with their families. So when all is said and done , make with the appreciation. Good Luck
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Thanks, I'll definitely shoot him a note. If I can get this thing fixed, I don't mind ponying up some appreciation either!

Bump. Still looking for anyone who could help....please please please....

kldalrymple said:
Bump. Still looking for anyone who could help....please please please....
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Start reading to get prepared for help ( or if you are feeling brave ) but make sure you understand EVERYTHING ! DO NOT get impatient and just jump right in.
If you mess up here, yea the kids get a $ 500 play phone. Be patient GSLEON will get back to you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371154
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372497

SUCCESS!!!
Never mind the requests for help guys, I got it breathing again! I used mtty and found I had a bunch of reversed/bad blocks. I simply downloaded the latest AT&T OEM rom from the HTC site and VOILA! I'm back up and going again! If anyone else ever runs into this problem, this thread was a lifesaver:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380951&page=2
Whew, that's enough drama for one night. I will try to load a cooked rom later...
Big thanks to all who responded!

kldalrymple said:
SUCCESS!!!
Never mind the requests for help guys, I got it breathing again! I used mtty and found I had a bunch of reversed/bad blocks. I simply downloaded the latest AT&T OEM rom from the HTC site and VOILA! I'm back up and going again! If anyone else ever runs into this problem, this thread was a lifesaver:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380951&page=2
Whew, that's enough drama for one night. I will try to load a cooked rom later...
Big thanks to all who responded!
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Congrats to you!
A little inspiration for other newbies and GS gets to relax for rest of his weekend.
Well done.

Need help G1 newb!! phone stuck in dev mode?

Ok i just got a free g1, im acually on att and all my phones have been winmo htc phones, even done a few custom roms for myself.
Anyways i got this phone thinking #1, i can unlock like any other htc phone fairly east to work with att? Second of all it keeps booting up and i see a triangle and a ! in the middle. When i hold down alt l and try to restore factory settings then reboot it goes to the same screen the error im getting is E: cant open /cache/recovery/command. So idk what to do from here i dont want any custom roms or anything honestly just want to unlock the phone and play with android, guessing something is horribly wrong with the rom on this phone.
Also this probably sounds really dumb but i dont see an SD slot on this phone its a t-mobile branded g1. Im not sure if its suppose to have one or what? The only thing i see is a place to insert the sim card right below the battery. If this phone doesnt have an sd slot am i screwed as far has getting it all fixed up.
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.

boorishid said:
Ok i just got a free g1, im acually on att and all my phones have been winmo htc phones, even done a few custom roms for myself.
Anyways i got this phone thinking #1, i can unlock like any other htc phone fairly east to work with att? Second of all it keeps booting up and i see a triangle and a ! in the middle. When i hold down alt l and try to restore factory settings then reboot it goes to the same screen the error im getting is E: cant open /cache/recovery/command. So idk what to do from here i dont want any custom roms or anything honestly just want to unlock the phone and play with android, guessing something is horribly wrong with the rom on this phone.
Also this probably sounds really dumb but i dont see an SD slot on this phone its a t-mobile branded g1. Im not sure if its suppose to have one or what? The only thing i see is a place to insert the sim card right below the battery. If this phone doesnt have an sd slot am i screwed as far has getting it all fixed up.
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.
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when you open the keyboard there is a little latch by the green call button that's where the sd card goes

boorishid said:
Basically i know nothing about android this was a free phone figured it would make a good back up or replacement to my ATT fuze if i ended up like Android better than WinMo. Sorry for all the lame ass questions but im pretty clueless and would just like to get this phone running as quickly as possible so i can start playing with android and learn what im doing.
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You probably wont like this answer but you posted in the wrong forum. You really need to figure out how to search because the answer you seek is not a simple one. I would first start searching (maybe try Google) as to where the SD slot is located.

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&q=g1+user+manual
would have saved you some confusion

as an xda member, i'd expect you to post in the right forum... LOL
the sd slot is underneath a cover below the green (send) button.
I find it easier to open the keyboard and pull on the tab on the upper left corner of the chin.
As to the rom, I'd suggest that you go into fastboot and flash a rom from there (boot while holding camera)
to flash in fastboot, use
Code:
flash_image (type) whatever.img

jcarrz1 said:
as an xda member, i'd expect you to post in the right forum... LOL
As to the rom, I'd suggest that you go into fastboot and flash a rom from there (boot while holding camera)
to flash in fastboot, use
Code:
flash_image (type) whatever.img
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Seriously, he had no clue as to where the sd card was located, do you expect him to have downloaded the SDK and have fastboot setup? I really think he needs to search as it is more complicated than it seems.

bkmo said:
Seriously, he had no clue as to where the sd card was located, do you expect him to have downloaded the SDK and have fastboot setup? I really think he needs to search as it is more complicated than it seems.
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i did that on purpose
note my inclusion of whatever.img

jcarrz1 said:
i did that on purpose
note my inclusion of whatever.img
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And I thought I was trying not to sound cruel. Well at least you have hinted as to what he needs to search for.

seriously....can ANYONE read the rules? or even use a little bit of common sense before posting?
c'mon man, how could this possibly belong in the development section?

Moved as not Android Development.

sorry, if i posted in the wrong forum i googled xda g1 forum and just clicked it.
As for slashing the ting im really trying to avoid that. Like i said i know nothing about android. The first few times i turned the phone on on it worked fine, just told me to insert sim card. Then i got home turned it on to really start messing with it and it just wouldnt boot and has kept giving me that error, i have no idea why i didnt try to flash the thing or anything like that. Ive held down alt l, as per searching the net went to the restore factory defualt option the phone seems to format then when i reset it i get the same error and can only turn the phone off by removing the battery.
Sorry like i said i know these are all idiot questions, sorry about posting in the wrong forum originally, like i said just did a quick google and posted i was on my way out the door. I just want to get the phone working stock and go from there. Phone seemed to be just fine at one point, i didnt do anything to it, i couldnt even get past please insert sim, so idk why im even getting this error at all. Basically the little searching i did do a few days ago made it seem like it had to do with flashing and updating which i definately did not do.

from what I understand in your post you only "half setup" your phone
( got as far as being asked for sim )
try pressing ALT+w when at the " triangle ! "
this should do a factory data reset, and next time you boot it will set up your phone from the begining

boorishid said:
As for slashing the ting im really trying to avoid that.
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Yeah I would want to avoid that too lmao

Thank you for the help but ive alread tried alt w and going back to defualts with alt l. Everytime the thing reboots after reseting defualts it goes back to that triangle screen. and when i press alt l it shows the error i mentioned before..

try this
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unbrick

The "triangle screen" is the recovery mode. That error about recovery/command always shows up, it's no big deal.
Are you holding any buttons while you boot? Holding home while turning the phone on gets you to recovery (your triangle screen), holding camera gets you to fastboot. You just want to boot normally.
If the G1 isn't rooted, you won't be able to get past the initial setup screen unless you've got a T-Mobile sim in it. Once you get to the sim error, you've made progress from what you've said here though. If you can get back to that, search around. I seem to recall that some people here run their G1 without a sim, so perhaps you can find out how they did it.

Will rooting the Nexus one/Froyo cause problems?

Guys, I had someone here talk me through rooting my nexus one with froyo and I'm running into some problems but I didn't know if it had something to do with rooting it or not and the reason is, I got it rooted the same day I received it so I hadn't tried those functions before I got it rooted.
I got it rooted so I could buy this program that makes the fonts larger and it required a rooted phone.
Well, today I was going to try to use it as a hot spot or wifi router and when I tried to enable it, it just says error.
Also, when trying to call and talk to people today, they could barely hear me and I had a hard time hearing them (not sure if this was temporary or not because later, although in a different area, it sounded fine).
When trying to reply to some e mail (online email/godaddy) when I clicked where the text/body goes, I could not type anything 'cause the keyboard wouldn't come up. If I clicked in the email or subject areas, the keyboard came up but not in the body text area.
Any ideas?
I guess I could reset it to default settings to see what happens but it took almost two hours to get it rooted so I really would like to avoid that.
Thanks
George

This should be in Q&A!
Not dev related.
To solve your problem:
looks like a bad boot.img for me.
I always had "Activiating Wifi"... "Error" with bad boot.img.
MOD: move to Q&A

Thanks. I wasn't sure about where to put it and thought there was possibly bigger chance of a reply here. Thanks for moving it.
So, considering I have NO idea what I'm doing and someone else helped me, is the answer to my next question short and simple or not?
What do I do about it?
No, I have no idea what a boot image is.
Should I try to get hold of the guy who helped me root it or see if someone else can talk me though how to fix it?
Thanks
George

guiri_too said:
Thanks. I wasn't sure about where to put it and thought there was possibly bigger chance of a reply here. Thanks for moving it.
So, considering I have NO idea what I'm doing and someone else helped me, is the answer to my next question short and simple or not?
What do I do about it?
No, I have no idea what a boot image is.
Should I try to get hold of the guy who helped me root it or see if someone else can talk me though how to fix it?
Thanks
George
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Im not a Mod, I did not move your thread.
The boot.img is part of a ROM.
But I don't know what ROM you're using, what build (FRF50/72/85B/91) nor the kernel etc.
I cannot tell you more right now.
Just try a new rooter update.zip because yours might have broke your WiFi.
See Cyanogen's or re-flash a pre-rooted rom.

Actually, I noticed it wasn't moved yet but anyway, I think I have the 72 but still, not sure, I'll have to investigate 'cause I like this phone and I would LIKE it to work for me. Especially since I can apparently use it on tmobile and att.
THanks
The hunt continues
George

no rooting in general does not harm your phone or cause problems in any way. however it is possible to mess something up, maybe install something or screw up settings or similar that could cause problems. you can always flash back to factory ROM, or hard reset, to get your phone working again.
even better, since you are rooted, you should be creating nand backups. and anytime something goes wrong, you restore to a working nand backup to a state that you know your phone was working good.

Yeah, now I have to figure out how to do this but thanks for the replies
George

[Q] "dead" phone

I have a dead phone I'm toying with. It's not on with the network. This is my first attempt at rooting etc. I would like to just have it as a sort of game/fun/toy phone. I have a G1 from Tmobile that I use and not going to try and root until I get a new one, then perhaps also have that as a game/fun/toy phone. Anyway, I have a Sprint Hero and how I've been getting apps and such on it is by swapping SD cards and doing a back up or connect via wi fi from one of the sites with a list of freeware to download. I want to get rid of the apps that I don't want/need for this phone. I'm not going to use it to call people so I would like that off too if I could. I would like to keep the wi fi though. I am new to this and trying to figure everything out. I just got busybox and rom manager on the phone. So, now what? How do I get those annoying stock apps I don't want/need? I really don't need to change the whole face of it, just those apps to be removed and I'll be happy with it. Thanks

by the way
I forgot the build.
I'm on 2.31.651.7
rooted from one click that I found from the unlockr

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hero_CDMA#Miscellaneous_Simple_How-To.27s.
Please search around, most of the common questions, more often than not, have already been answered.

ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.

I also want it as some type of "toy" for him to play with instead of taking MY phone! lol. I have toddler lock on it and he seems to like it. But I don't really want him to have it until he stops "chewing" on it. My G1 case cover is ruined from him. lol. oh well. He likes to play with phones because everyone else does. They start early now. I downloaded all sort of kid games so when that day comes, I can say, here you go when he takes mine!
But I'm lost on figuring out if there is a program I need? Or if the superoneclick has it in the app. I have it on our Windows computer and I'm currently on our Mac. And that computer is so slow and now I have to spend the time to try and clean IT out. Its running Vista and I have a copy of 7 but I don't feel like dealing with all of that. sigh.
Does tethering work with phone to phone? Like connect my non network phone to my G1 for internet like when we go on vacation and my nonsmart phone partner wants to use the net and so do I, that we can share. I'm guessing USB cable would do that? I don't know, there is just so much to read up on for a newbe trying to figure it out. Time for sleep now.

mistyshadow said:
ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
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Well, nobody around here sits around on their butts staring at the screen, waiting for people like you to ask questions... so that they can answer. If you think of this as "Customer Service", think again. Everyone here has primary jobs, they do this because they like it and are passionate about it.
Having said that, nobody is saying "No" to answering questions... just try searching and looking up the obvious links, first.

Geeze. sorry. I just thought Maybe someone else maybe already had done it and point me in the right direction. I try searching and can't find anything in what I'm trying to do. So a here, try this and this and such would be nice. Thought I give a bg on what I wanted to do with it. And I'm still new and get lost around here. Tech langauage changes every 6 months along with the phones. I see "flash" and I think of the Adobe program or the flash on a camera. So forgive me. And I guess nevermind.

I agree with the others here. There is a wealth of tutorials available, and when used will achieve your goal of a "toy". However, I will help you out by providing a framework of things you will need to do. Bear in mind you will need to do the searching though. This way you will learn more about the phone, and you will have a better sense of what to do if something doesn't go right, etc.
First, you need to have your phone rooted. Rooting allows you full access over the phone. Most rooting utilities will install "Busybox", a set of binaries that grants you the ability to use special commands. Next, you will want to install a custom Recovery image. There are two mainstream ones available: Amon-RA and ClockworkMod. Either is fine. The recovery image allows you to make backups of your phone, install new ROMs, and reset settings, among other things. After the recovery image is installed, you will want to search for a list of "safe to delete apps".
I hope this helps you somewhat. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me.
Mike

[Q] LCD BLACK BUT STILL FUNCTIONAL BLIND, MAJOR KEYS still lit up

First of all running stock Droid 3 Rooted Flashed to cricket
with all the fixin's, Bootstrap, CMW, ... etc....
:edit ... Now with safestrap.
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I noticed after taking my phone out of my pocket while trying to turn it on from normal off screen while on that it wouldn't show up the light still indicated it was working I can even turn off the phone.
Taking the battery out and back in semi fixed this but only to the extent where when the phone is turned on the moto logo doesn't appear but the droid eye does.
whence at the booted screen if I were to let it go black it has a chance to not stay on unless I RIGHT after it boots unlock it and keep it lit,
(but)
the main problem I noticed was it really only did this after lets say I was typing or doing anything with the qwerty board open and perhaps I let the screen turn off after a minute,
when I try to wake it up it stays black. EVERY TIME like most of the time,
it has to do with the keyboard being open when the screen goes to sleep.
WHAT IS WRONG *pulls hair out*
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I can't say when but I've looked everywhere
tried uninstalling every app but the essentials,
then restoring to my first restore which was after my first initial root.
Tried factory reset,
Tried flashing back to stock,
yeah I think this counts for as much as I've gone insane looking for an answer for.
I have been told this sounded like a software issue so all I'd need to do is re install like I did when flashing back to stock THIS MORNING.
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I need help to identify somehow if this IS or IS NOT a software/hardware problem.
and an answer to help me fix this would be nice as well thank you.
I know I am supposed to be brief but putting in all that into google and into every forum I have delved just isn't going to put it the way it needs to be said.
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Edit:
Ok so far since no one has said anything I have also reinstalled my old newest state, still giving me crap.
Then just did the newest update 5.7 blah and still it's happening.
I hypothesize it might be the flex ribbon cable maybe (but it really might not) I read from another phone it might be a capacitor but it might not.
Whatever is wrong the phone still is able to at times now 40/60% of the time work properly and wake normal but then again not.
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Right as of now I have put isc to see if this helps .......... .... to be continued or helped.
I'm back, well ics installed fine after the second time made it boot loop over and over.
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I can receive calls now
but
no sms, mms, or internet.
(even though the network status settings are blank it's weird I can still receive calls, and send calls.)
since you can't restore the apn's with 3rd party I now have this NEW issue.
the phone goes unresponsive within cdma workshop and ##Program does not work.
I'd like some help in finding out now how to if it is possible yet to properly flash to cricket and or just change my apns and get into cdma as well as QPST.
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PLEASE I NEED HELP thank you
-3nJo1

Yeah, it does sound like a hardware problem. If nobody else can help you fix it, you'll need to reflash the latest OTA update (or revert to your safestrap nandroid), unroot it and restore all the system apps that you may have frozen/deleted, and hope that Verizon will replace it.

Thanks
necromanteion said:
Yeah, it does sound like a hardware problem. If nobody else can help you fix it, you'll need to reflash the latest OTA update (or revert to your safestrap nandroid), unroot it and restore all the system apps that you may have frozen/deleted, and hope that Verizon will replace it.
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Thanks for your input.
(verizon wouldn't replace it since I baught it from someone else (legit) and I don't have verizon.
UNLESS you think if I had the previous owner take it into the store could they replace it? what steps would they take to see if it was rooted?
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I never unrooted it when I did allll of this
Do you think rerooting is soumething that I should have done before doing this?
Or most likely is this a flex ribbon cable thing ....
I just tried the diagnostic (leave keyboard open then turn the screen off and on thing)
it came on at least 3 times normal then it didn't either right after the 3rd try or upon closing the qwerty board ...
also do you have an answer at all for the ics portion of my problem?
THANK YOU
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EDIT!!!!!!!! Actually realized I did reroot after the sbf ota flash .....
so all things aside yehs I also did that any other solutions inquiries ...
ANYONE ELSE PLEASE HELP!

Another path to try down is Motorola - depending on the age of the phone, I believe there's a warranty through them.

stud beefpile said:
Another path to try down is Motorola - depending on the age of the phone, I believe there's a warranty through them.
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Thanks,
well it is less than a year old I think, could I be able to get motorola to replace it when all I have is the phone no receipt or box ???
MORE HELP FROM ANYONE ELSE PLEASE

I bought my d3 off craigslist and the power button and n key weren't always working. I took it in to Verizon and had a new one in the mail 3 days later!
Sent from my XT862 using XDA App
Sorry didn't read the part about you being on cricket. Maybe you could make friends with someone that has d3 on verizon have them activate it and take it in for you.

3nJo1 said:
Thanks,
well it is less than a year old I think, could I be able to get motorola to replace it when all I have is the phone no receipt or box ???
MORE HELP FROM ANYONE ELSE PLEASE
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I believe there is another apn type tool that the Cricket Android tools are using for their specific settings. You may have to search XDA a bit to see if anything shows up for othere phones on Cricket.
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA App