Hello Milestone users!
I am using Moto milestone for some time now and I have a question about battery calibration status. In NORMAL hacked recoveries there was an option "Wipe Battery Status". Of course in Open recover (got recovery and i guess adb recovery too) that option doesn't exist. I wonder if any of wipes available does something like battery status wipe? If so, does restoring nandroid system backup affect somehow battery capacity information? I'm asking because i get miserable battery life on single charge and i'm seeking for a reason (about 14h of well.. light usage...)
Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my native language. I hope this post i readable
k_myk said:
Hello Milestone users!
I am using Moto milestone for some time now and I have a question about battery calibration status. In NORMAL hacked recoveries there was an option "Wipe Battery Status". Of course in Open recover (got recovery and i guess adb recovery too) that option doesn't exist. I wonder if any of wipes available does something like battery status wipe? If so, does restoring nandroid system backup affect somehow battery capacity information? I'm asking because i get miserable battery life on single charge and i'm seeking for a reason (about 14h of well.. light usage...)
Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my native language. I hope this post i readable
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No worries: just open an adb shell and type the following.
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
The battery stats are stored in the mentioned .bin file!
@guildamx ...
im using HTC G1.. the battery life isnt so good... should i use this script u have mentioned? im using cyanogen 5.0.8 eclair 2.1
fahad123 said:
@guildamx ...
im using HTC G1.. the battery life isnt so good... should i use this script u have mentioned? im using cyanogen 5.0.8 eclair 2.1
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According to my personal experience, whenever you flash a rom which is basically different from the one you are going to remove, it is useful to wipe the battery stats and charge the phone to its full capacity.
This is generally valid for all the android phones.
guildamx said:
No worries: just open an adb shell and type the following.
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
The battery stats are stored in the mentioned .bin file!
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Thank you, Sir! I was not aware of that script I will try that for sure, but I guess I will still have to visit my carrier and send my milestone on warranty.. Come on... 14 hours? I can't plug it twice a day EVERY day..
k_myk said:
Thank you, Sir! I was not aware of that script I will try that for sure, but I guess I will still have to visit my carrier and send my milestone on warranty.. Come on... 14 hours? I can't plug it twice a day EVERY day..
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Please do the proper test before sending your phone to the assistance.
Consider that the battery life depends on:
- your peculiar usage (do you listen to music or play games?)
- the number of active widgets which connect to the net
- the quality of radio signal of the area where you are
- the temperature...
Consequently, wipe the battery stats, charge the phone to its max capacity and come back here!
guildamx said:
Please do the proper test before sending your phone to the assistance.
Consider that the battery life depends on:
- your peculiar usage (do you listen to music or play games?)
- the number of active widgets which connect to the net
- the quality of radio signal of the area where you are
- the temperature...
Consequently, wipe the battery stats, charge the phone to its max capacity and come back here!
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OK, if users don't mind I will "extend" this thread and complain about my battery;
In general it looks like this:
-Auto brightness always on
-3G always on
-google sync on
-exchange sync on
-weather sync once for 4 hours
-news sync once for 4 hours
-no data absorbing widgets (only weather bug)
-no games
-no music
Oh, and about signal quality.. I almost always am in good range of 3g/hsdpa network
Now, I don't surf internet alot, but I read news when I go to work and home. Screen is active total 2,5h a day and according to battery use built in android screen absorbs up to 75% of whole battery! (usually 60-66%)
I made some reaserch one day and I wiped whole phone, switched to edge, disabled exchange sync so I used stock settings. No apps, no additional data (only google account) and battery still made only 14h... That made me think, that something is not quite ok.. I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...) If you think I am doing something wrong please advise
I will try your tip with battery ststus wipe in a minute and will give report tomorrow or day after
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
k_myk said:
OK, if users don't mind I will "extend" this thread and complain about my battery;
In general it looks like this:
-Auto brightness always on
-3G always on
-google sync on
-exchange sync on
-weather sync once for 4 hours
-news sync once for 4 hours
-no data absorbing widgets (only weather bug)
-no games
-no music
Oh, and about signal quality.. I almost always am in good range of 3g/hsdpa network
Now, I don't surf internet alot, but I read news when I go to work and home. Screen is active total 2,5h a day and according to battery use built in android screen absorbs up to 75% of whole battery! (usually 60-66%)
I made some reaserch one day and I wiped whole phone, switched to edge, disabled exchange sync so I used stock settings. No apps, no additional data (only google account) and battery still made only 14h... That made me think, that something is not quite ok.. I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...) If you think I am doing something wrong please advise
I will try your tip with battery ststus wipe in a minute and will give report tomorrow or day after
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
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Don't want to disappoint you, but from the description of your usage 14 hours might be normal. Especially with 2.5h screen being on. Few advices: disable google sync (I assume you use exchange) you will get 10-15% more. Make sure you don't have widgets that update themselves set to update too often, remove the weather widget from screen (just for a day to see what gives), consider installing SetCPU for root users (free for XDA members) and define some profiles like lower CPU frequency while screen is off, or when you reach certain batterly levels (of course if you have root).
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I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...)
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I also had a magic and, according to my experience, the Milestone's battery lasts as long as Magic's one, if not a little more.
Switching from HTC to Motorola did not affect my usage abits, and maybe it's the same for you, so I think the differences may be due to the battery itself.
Try changing it!
Are there other ways to wipe the battery status other than using ADB?
Qazz~ said:
Are there other ways to wipe the battery status other than using ADB?
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Sure: you can manually delete the file "batterystats.bin" stored in /data/system/ using apps like Root Explorer. Before you have to set the filesystem as "read/write".
With the Magic it was also possible using the recovery; maybe the next releases of GOT's O.R. will add this feature.
guildamx said:
I also had a magic and, according to my experience, the Milestone's battery lasts as long as Magic's one, if not a little more.
Switching from HTC to Motorola did not affect my usage abits, and maybe it's the same for you, so I think the differences may be due to the battery itself.
Try changing it!
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Well, maybe you're right about usage. Physical qwerty under the 3.7 " screen... It screams for being used for browsing and reading news Good old magic wasn't that attractive.
I've wiped battery stats and if I don't use it a lot (1h screen on) and don't make many phone calls MS is able to make 24h uptime without charging. (Thanks for the tip, I didn't know it's that easy)
I guess I could send it to service just to make sure everything is technically ok, but atm I don't feel like stop using smartphone for over 2 weeks ^^
Thank you for all your help!
Cheers!
k_myk said:
-exchange sync on
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Some user at PDAClub.pl who had got a deep look into the matter of low battery life got to conclusion that the exchange sync sucks the juice out of the battery like crazy.
Please refer to thread "Milestone - Bateriowy koszmar" in the Milestone section of PDAClub.pl forum.
I have it off,all the time,but still baterry life sucks.
Unfortunately its something we have to learn to live with...
Sent from my Milestone
guildamx said:
Sure: you can manually delete the file "batterystats.bin" stored in /data/system/ using apps like Root Explorer. Before you have to set the filesystem as "read/write".
With the Magic it was also possible using the recovery; maybe the next releases of GOT's O.R. will add this feature.
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do you have to fully charge you battery to 100% before deleting the batterystats.bin? Or can you delete it whenever at whatever battery %?
As far as I know, if for any reason battery stats are messed up, you will not be able to charge the phone to 100%. I mean that the phone will display a full charge indication but the battery would not be 100%. Consequently, I'd suggest to wipe the battery stats befeore charging...
Do you guys suggest to Wipe Battery Stats? I never done it on my tab, but would like to hear your thoughts before i jump the gun,
Thanks
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Hi.
I don't seem to last a day without recharging my battery (either by USB or Outlet).
I have some useful programs but I'm afraid to use them sometimes because my phone wont last the day.
On a regular day, without extreme program usage (WiFi, GPS, games etc), just regular phone calls (GSM not 3G), my battery power lasts maybe 18 hours.
If i used 1/4 of my installed programs moderetely, my battery power lasts for about 10-12 hours.
I would like your professional advise to better by battery life.
1. Would changing my ROM to a better modified one solve my issue?
2. Is there a backround process (that is not detected my my task manager) working that I should know about?
3. Are there any tweaks (non registry) that I can do to better the life?
4. Are there any registry fixes that can be done to better the life?
5. Do third party cabs (SPB etc.) drain the battery life even if they are idle?
6. Does letting my battery fully drain and then fully charging it over and over really help the overall battery life?
FYI: I have the OEM ROM, my phone had never been Hard reseted before
I have tried all sorts of things, but I cannot manage to get my phone to last more than a day.
I would really appreciate your advise.
Thanks.
P.S please dont tell me that you people go 2-3 days without charging (that would hurt my feelings )
my kaiser lasts about 10 hours if heavily used, I mean 3G internet always on, browsing with opera mini all while listening to MP3s..
With normal usage and 3G coverage (but classic talks, not video ones) it last al least 2 days..
that's strange
Hi,
i managed to have good power after alot of research and tweaks on this forum.
-disable 3g service
-make sure no application auto-enable wifi, make sure its off.
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
on normal days with just afew calls and very little surfing, i my battery life is the same as other non-pda phones!
boojingyou said:
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
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What do you mean with locking all the buttons?
Would updating my RADIO help?
bluemamba said:
Would updating my RADIO help?
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Default ROM sucks. The registry is setup completely ineffecient (like all M$ software) so eats capacity and battery.
Best thing to do is check the 'Kaiser upgrading' thread and compare the radio version you have with what's posted there and see if you could improver performance. I'm still on the original radio that it cam with, but trying multiple Rom's dramatically improved battery life. That and speed and performance. Their is much to gain, my friend.
I advise you read the articles about CID and SIM unlocking before attemting to flash anything.
Upgrade your radio to 1.27.12.17/32, turn off 3G and flash some clean ROM (like Q-Mobile - see in my signature )
My phone can survive now more than 3 days on normal usage. Before it could live 2-3 days max.
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
MickyMax said:
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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I dont think and fixes of those kind will do anything
I think what Maarten_0031 and gabriel31337 say is the obly way. I will reseach what kinda ROM best fits my need and let u know
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
MickyMax said:
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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On average, how long does your bettery last?
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
MickyMax said:
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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Very nice. I think i might try that.
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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?
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Spell correctly, charge it.
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tyeo098 said:
[qoute=Topic Title;1839477] Battery Power Poor. Any advise?[/qoute]
Spell correctly, charge it.
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qoute?
You spell correctly and keep to the topic
Just got my Kaiser yesterday. Left it to charge all night and removed it by 7:30 am. At 16:00, battery shows 14% left?!?!?!?
What the heck?
Did all the power tweaks from KaiserTweak.
Lets see how it goes without 3G and with the tweaks I did today.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE
Radio 1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13H
it can't be stated enough how quickly your battery will die if you have your mailboxes checking for new mail 'as they come in' or 'every 5 minutes', etc. if you have important emails your expecting then turn it to those settings, but if you don't care if you get your mail only every hour then go that route - it makes a big difference in the battery life.. also make sure you have the disconnect option in kaiser tweak set on - i have mine set at disconnect after 2 minutes.. and finally, if you can get away with using edge then have your phone always set to edge and only set to 3g for web surfing - pulling down your text based email in edge and not 3g is usually a pretty negligible difference.
on a side note, i bought a 3000mAH battery for about $70.. it improves the battery life a decent amount, but the reality is is that if you use the GPS for 2-3 hours without having it plugged in while using the GPS then you can always expect the battery to be dead by the end of the day (or sooner).. if your going to use it as a GPS then have it plugged in..
its all about wifi...turn it off if not needed.
This has been discussed in many previous threads.
All the above are applicable and also get rid of any fancy today plugins that show data state (WiFi-phone) and battery condition as they are constantly running and polling the relevant devices.
You will see a VAST difference when you do that.
I dunno whether it is a battery problem or what but I got a brand new battery
coz the last battery was too bad but the new battery also sucks.
I was wondering if it was cause of the ROM and kernel so
I switched to stock rom for trial purpose and still I got juz like barely 7 hours of juice....
with juz some files thru bluetooth and half an hour or so of texting....
so what could be causing the problem?
Here's the battery stats...
NiiSyth said:
I dunno whether it is a battery problem or what but I got a brand new battery
coz the last battery was too bad but the new battery also sucks.
I was wondering if it was cause of the ROM and kernel so
I switched to stock rom for trial purpose and still I got juz like barely 7 hours of juice....
with juz some files thru bluetooth and half an hour or so of texting....
so what could be causing the problem?
Here's the battery stats...
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I'm not really an expert on this... but I'll try!
First, data - depending on how often your apps that use data refresh, it may be killing your battery because they are always updating in the background
Next, apps - depending on how many are open, and trying to retrieve info or a responce, this may be killing your battery life
Another, backlight brightness - I would say half brightness looks almost the same as full brightness, so turn that down too. Another thing you can do is make sure that your phone times out so the screen is always on and sucking the life out of your battery
Plus, bluetooth and wifi - turn those off when you aren't using them! They turn on in a couple of seconds so there is no use in just leaving them on and draining your battery.
Lastly, I dunno what "kik" is (the app running in the corner of the status bar) but it may be using battery too (probably not because it isn't in the list of the battery use so I don't think that's it.
Anyways, in short, possibly shut off the data if you don't always use it (you don't have to tho ), go into the settings of apps, and get the refresh rate at a longer period of time (so they aren't always using data), kill any open apps if you can with an app manager, turn down the brightness of backlight, change the time it takes to shut off the backlight, and shut off the bluetooth and wifi when you aren't using it.
Unfortunatley the battery life on the Ace is far from the best, if anything it's terrible, but other than that I have very few issues with the phone.
Well... That's my two cents. Hopefully it helps, but if not, search around on the forums and see if you can find any other solutions. :fingers-crossed: I'm not the expert, but I'm trying to throw ideas out there. Good luck
Running background processes is a major battery kill. I used to get 12h+ on 3G with Stocklite V6. Never used heavy apps though. Just Textplus, Opera Mini to check fb sometimes and WhatsApp whenever someone talked to me. Light usage.
How much the battery lasts depends on the user completely.
thatdude02 said:
I'm not really an expert on this... but I'll try!
First, data - depending on how often your apps that use data refresh, it may be killing your battery because they are always updating in the background
Next, apps - depending on how many are open, and trying to retrieve info or a responce, this may be killing your battery life
Another, backlight brightness - I would say half brightness looks almost the same as full brightness, so turn that down too. Another thing you can do is make sure that your phone times out so the screen is always on and sucking the life out of your battery
Plus, bluetooth and wifi - turn those off when you aren't using them! They turn on in a couple of seconds so there is no use in just leaving them on and draining your battery.
Lastly, I dunno what "kik" is (the app running in the corner of the status bar) but it may be using battery too (probably not because it isn't in the list of the battery use so I don't think that's it.
Anyways, in short, possibly shut off the data if you don't always use it (you don't have to tho ), go into the settings of apps, and get the refresh rate at a longer period of time (so they aren't always using data), kill any open apps if you can with an app manager, turn down the brightness of backlight, change the time it takes to shut off the backlight, and shut off the bluetooth and wifi when you aren't using it.
Unfortunatley the battery life on the Ace is far from the best, if anything it's terrible, but other than that I have very few issues with the phone.
Well... That's my two cents. Hopefully it helps, but if not, search around on the forums and see if you can find any other solutions. :fingers-crossed: I'm not the expert, but I'm trying to throw ideas out there. Good luck
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First of all thnx for taking this much time out....
It's rlly helpful...
but
1. My data usage is barely 10 mb per day....
and no wifi and mearge usage of bluetooth....
2. Background apps;
only adw and one or two others...
and Kik is juz like whatsapp, a messaging app....
and it's quite lightweight, been using it since uite some time...
3. Backlight is at an always 25% and screen timeout 30 secs....
so juz wanna know if there's a possibility of some hardware fault......
coz I've tried most things possible to take out the software fault if any....
NiiSyth said:
First of all thnx for taking this much time out....
It's rlly helpful...
but
1. My data usage is barely 10 mb per day....
and no wifi and mearge usage of bluetooth....
2. Background apps;
only adw and one or two others...
and Kik is juz like whatsapp, a messaging app....
and it's quite lightweight, been using it since uite some time...
3. Backlight is at an always 25% and screen timeout 30 secs....
so juz wanna know if there's a possibility of some hardware fault......
coz I've tried most things possible to take out the software fault if any....
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Wait, i just forgot!...
I get this too sometimes, but what might help is if you reset your battery stats! I have to do this too because I found that after a half an hour after unplugging my phone with no use I lost 10% battery life, for no apparant reason. Search in the Play Store "BatteryCalibration". All you have to do is charge your phone to 100%, and tap the button . You usually have to do this after flashing a new ROM, because you might not flash it at 100% battery life and the stats go from there. So I would say, try it and see what happens.
Now... If not... The only other suggestion I have is if you find a battery booster app such as "Juice Defender" from the Play Store. I tried using it, but didn't see a huge difference (I don't have data, so I just keep it off), probably because I barely use my phone. I've also heard some thing about a script called "v6 Super Charger" (I've only heard of it, please search it if you want to know more because I sure don't ). Aparantly it boosts battery as well, but no promises haha.
If you are really desperate for better battery life, I would say switch to 2g service in the settings. Other than that.... I'm out for now
Hopefully this might help you out as well, but other than that the Ace is not well known for a good battery. But that's a mid range phone for you (but the Ace ain't no slouch either)
Anyway, goodluck!
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Ok, so after looking around a little, I found a very interesting thread about Lithium-Ion batteries! Really cool and really worth the read! I learned quite a bit. Hopefully this answers any additional questions that I wasn't able to answer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
Try also eliminating any widgets or live wallpapers that you may have running. These might keep the processor running at a higher speed then neccessary, but no promises.... Plus I already mentioned closing apps you don't need (so this is pretty much the same woops) and you might have done it already.
The biggest thing to remeber is that you have to sacrifice performance for the best battery life. This may go as far as underclocking your maximum CPU speed, but this might cause some lagging especially at the startup. I think that this should be a last resort to be honest, because you still want to use a phone, and not a laggy device that you are trying to conserve as much battery as possible.
I also heard something about the motherboard possibly having a hardware fault in it causing excess discharge... But... I will need to do a little more searching to see if I can figure this out for you!
The other possiblity is that you get a power bank... But that just adds to what you have to pack around, so this is probably another last resort, but it's all up to you.
thatdude02 said:
Wait, i just forgot!...
I get this too sometimes, but what might help is if you reset your battery stats! I have to do this too because I found that after a half an hour after unplugging my phone with no use I lost 10% battery life, for no apparant reason. Search in the Play Store "BatteryCalibration". All you have to do is charge your phone to 100%, and tap the button . You usually have to do this after flashing a new ROM, because you might not flash it at 100% battery life and the stats go from there. So I would say, try it and see what happens.
Now... If not... The only other suggestion I have is if you find a battery booster app such as "Juice Defender" from the Play Store. I tried using it, but didn't see a huge difference (I don't have data, so I just keep it off), probably because I barely use my phone. I've also heard some thing about a script called "v6 Super Charger" (I've only heard of it, please search it if you want to know more because I sure don't ). Aparantly it boosts battery as well, but no promises haha.
If you are really desperate for better battery life, I would say switch to 2g service in the settings. Other than that.... I'm out for now
Hopefully this might help you out as well, but other than that the Ace is not well known for a good battery. But that's a mid range phone for you (but the Ace ain't no slouch either)
Anyway, goodluck!
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Ok, so after looking around a little, I found a very interesting thread about Lithium-Ion batteries! Really cool and really worth the read! I learned quite a bit. Hopefully this answers any additional questions that I wasn't able to answer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
Try also eliminating any widgets or live wallpapers that you may have running. These might keep the processor running at a higher speed then neccessary, but no promises.... Plus I already mentioned closing apps you don't need (so this is pretty much the same woops) and you might have done it already.
The biggest thing to remeber is that you have to sacrifice performance for the best battery life. This may go as far as underclocking your maximum CPU speed, but this might cause some lagging especially at the startup. I think that this should be a last resort to be honest, because you still want to use a phone, and not a laggy device that you are trying to conserve as much battery as possible.
I also heard something about the motherboard possibly having a hardware fault in it causing excess discharge... But... I will need to do a little more searching to see if I can figure this out for you!
The other possiblity is that you get a power bank... But that just adds to what you have to pack around, so this is probably another last resort, but it's all up to you.
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I tried battery stat reset at every charge to see if that helped....
but no friggin help...
Prolly it's the motherboard fault.....
coz I even reverted back to touchwiz launcher with juz icons and stock rom and now dat's juz the limit...
the phone looks like a crippled giant....
capable of everything but is chained by the bloody harware problem...
gonna give it to the Samsung Service center....:/
NiiSyth said:
I tried battery stat reset at every charge to see if that helped....
but no friggin help...
Prolly it's the motherboard fault.....
coz I even reverted back to touchwiz launcher with juz icons and stock rom and now dat's juz the limit...
the phone looks like a crippled giant....
capable of everything but is chained by the bloody harware problem...
gonna give it to the Samsung Service center....:/
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Probably the best thing to do! Sorry I couldn't be any help to you, so it's probably best if you do that. I love my Ace, but the battery just has to hold it back
It sucks, but anyway, I hope you can get it fixed!:fingers-crossed:
Guys i face the same problem. My battery stays only for 1 to 2 hour. I tried wiping battery stats, full discharge and charge but of on use
Need some help guys.
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This may be a common reply.. But I still would recommend using juice defender ultimate.. It helps a LOT!!
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Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
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ok
back to stock rom
it has the SAME problem
"No data connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" on Betterbatterystats
with steep drops in battery whenever there is "Mobile network signal"
and next to no drop whatsoever when there isn't
PLEASE HELP ><
new attachments down there with stock rom
tell me if you need a translation
THANKS
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Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
davidchuyaya said:
I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
davidchuyaya said:
nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
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Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
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Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
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Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
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Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
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Well then sit tight. Szezso is gonna release a CM10.1 for us as soon as he gets his new USB port.
oh well then
thanks for the help anyways
I'll just keep waiting
might want to go back to Sense though...
and more pics from BetterBatteryStats
just in case anyone knows what they mean
Drained 56% of my battery while I was asleep yesterday (for about 7 hours)
only 6% in the time I was at school, because of Airplane mode (I even listened to music and played a little Doodle Jump)
but I obviously want a phone to CALL PEOPLE
so I'm reverting to stock Rom
OK
so that didn't work out
I edited the main article
hope someone can help!!
meanwhile I'll look for more articles online since I know it's not (really) CM's problem anymore
thanks
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
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Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
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Thanks for the detailed reply sir
My widgets (aka weather & tasks) only refresh manually, and nothing is on Autosync (in the auto sync menu, anyways)
originally had only vibration for calls, turned that off too now
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File after a few hours
Thanks again!!
davidchuyaya said:
Thanks for the detailed reply sir.
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File
Thanks again!!
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I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
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I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
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got it then
I'm going to install SetCPU
but because the RUU unrooted my phone, I'm going to have to root it again
meanwhile
the Dump File
***4/12 8:20PM edit
finished rooting, reinstalled stuff
I installed No-frills CPU Control instead
since it's free
but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it
am I suppose to just record the data and post it here?
Um...
guys?
I haven't seen one of these threads yet, and I think it will benefit users of our D4 forum.
If you have any tips/tricks, feel free to add them here.
My first tip: TURN OFF 4G AT ANY TIME POSSIBLE. 4g is a battery vacuum.
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Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.
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Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.
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I second this, keep your widgest, number of home screens, and social networking apps down. Phones haven't reached the point of being able to be computers quite yet. Here are some apps to keep it snappy though:
Fast Reboot (by Great Bytes Software)- same as a battery pull without having to. Clears up a lot of RAM.
Lte On/Off - with this, you can switch to 3G (CDMA) only, and have it set to automatically default to that setting in the case of you switching to airplane mode for some reason. But it does reset the app if you turn of your phone. Fast Reboot doesn't clash with this app.
App Cache Cleaner - clears out a lot of the cache you otherwise would have to go to Manage Applications to clean out.
That's all I can think of at the moment for non-rooted users. I won't go into rooted b/c this is not the right place. But here are a few battery saving settings:
GPS - have only the Google one on, it's the fastest in my experience.
Display - have it set to the lowest setting when at all possible. Only lowers color distortion in my experience.
Developer optionss - go in here and turn on the force GPU settings. This may not be the case with everyone, but it gives my phone a little more zip and makes things smoother.
Apps (this is the very bottom of the developer settings) - Adjust these to your liking. Perhaps try setting the max number of backgrounded processes to 4.
I wonder how it looks on you ...
on my droid 4 and with Jelly Bean i lost ~5,5% battery by hour no matter what i do even on airplane mode.. still aroud 5% by 1h
please can you advice how its look from your side ?
I had the same thing with my Droid 4. I finally sbf'd it, and reinstalled everything one at a time. This fixed it.
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i try SBF many time, formats, pull out sd card no matter what i do.. still lost 5,5 % battery by hour.. so max my battery keep 16-18h
(its there any possibility to move back to ICS ? )
Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.
fathermocker said:
Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.
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you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g
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you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g
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What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.
a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...
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a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...
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I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g
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I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g
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Same here. In a couple cases its just made it worse. I will be trying out the extended battery in a couple weeks though. Hopefully it'll let me go at least a day without charging.
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The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.
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The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.
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yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...
Turning off auto sync, turning off WiFi while on 4G works. Also make sure there's not any apps running in the background. Being root, there's apps you can download to close any open app
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What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.
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just go into your settings of your networking section:
settings-wireless&networks-mobilenetworks-networkmode
and choose ur favourite mode!
gsm=2g
wcdma=3g
lte=4g
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with CM it is an easy to safe much energy! and if you really want to do this on a right way, you really need to own a rooted system....
1. underclocked my cpu for 200mhz, dont have to comment.... if you use lightweight lounchers and care for background apps, it will noprob
2. use only 2g-networks, those are more available than every other networks, and even tcp/ip works with it, for whatsapp etc it is way enough bandwitch
very important!!!!
3. check your internal recievers after installing an app!! with "autorun manager" on a rooted device you can uncheck every function from every app, even autostart of an already killed facebook app, or statistical functions from apps which comes with most of them
4. get your brightness automated, if it is dark, you can automatically safe energy by a automatically regulation
5. maybe you would prefer to deactivate vibrations/haptic feedback/call vibration completely, its very energy consumpting.....
6. deactivate the gps-reciever complete, and just turn it on if you need it
7. set your display timeout as less than possible for your behaviour, 15 seconds may be enough
8. know what runs in background, evrything in background, sucks energy.....
9. deactivate nfc
10. deactivate bluetooth
with this i get a standby about ~1-3 days! and if im phoning and writing to much maybe not fully to one day. if i watch now on my energy tables, my display is consumpting still 40-60% battery per charge, but i dont think that even more safings would be possible
and with the app "tasker" you can even script this in endless environments
MiLoS R2D2 said:
yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...
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How does JuiceDefender save the battery? I have used many battery saver apps (including Juicedefender) and I always find that they run in the background and kill the apps which I would close anyway. Does it do anything besides kill background apps? By now I've deleted most background apps and have only kept the apps I want (which are few) and I still find battery life subpar.
Also definitely keeping 3G/4G off is a huge help. Wouldn't be able to make it very far without turning those off
I use Autorun Manager pro to freeze Google Play Services. Funnily enough, Play Store and Google Maps still work like a charm yet Google Play Services don't run background
Edited: With stock rom, install SetCPU and change the governor to hotplug. Underclock max frequency down to 800 MHz. You won't notice much different for normal tasks like watching videos, sms,...That setting is enough for me to play FF4 on MyBoy but playing heavy graphic games might not be snappy tho.
For me not using gaaps improve battery life. Every one knows for google play service that you cannot stop Instead I use calldav for my contacts.
me battery drain in me droid 4 jb 4.1.2 with gsm patch is of 60% for screen, the battery only run about 6hs, can i fix this? thanks
This is a little trick for those talking about battery life that hasn't really been discussed anywhere.
On my old S5 I tried this out and got AMAZING battery life.
Standby time was around 14 days (phone on)
SOT test was well over 6 hours (running a youtube playlist .. known as the "high on android SOT test" - link http://highonandroid.com/highonandroid-sot-test/ )
..and it is all to do with syncing and apps
basic gist, factory reset .. don't setup your google or samsung account, just skip
install apps you want to use via apk's downloaded to your phone (or preferably transferred via usb from your pc)
don't use any apps that want to connect to the internet and sync in the backgorund (i.e. email, facebook, etc do all that via you phones browser e.g. chrome)
what this achieves is your phone isn't constantly pulling information from the net to either update your apps (via google play / samsung apps or just updating the information contained within the app e.g. emails)
battery life is staggering
sorry i don't have any pictures anymore of the battery life graphs as I sold the phone recently
but this is something to keep in mind, and for those who want to try it let me know how you go!
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If I didn't want to get emails, Facebook, push notifications, I wouldn't have bought a Note 4: I could stay with my Nokia 3310
Thanks anyway
gabripranzo said:
If I didn't want to get emails, Facebook, push notifications, I wouldn't have bought a Note 4: I could stay with my Nokia 3310
Thanks anyway
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hey don't knock the Nokia 3310! :silly:
I think you are missing the point though ...
but thanks anyway for your comment
Eudemony said:
hey don't knock the Nokia 3310! :silly:
I think you are missing the point though ...
but thanks anyway for your comment
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Don't worry, I didn't miss any point, I was just joking
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Don't worry, I didn't miss any point, I was just joking
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All good mate :good::good:
turn off the phone and battery life would be amazing lol
Your tips ridiculous, sorry
beefx said:
turn off the phone and battery life would be amazing lol
Your tips ridiculous, sorry
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And if you remove the battery too... and then send both the phone and the battery to separate countries on different continents, then oh my it'll last months.
OT: My battery life is poor I can barely get 1h sot, but I use note4 for productivity and internet and mail and etc, if I wanted a brick without any of those I'd buy a brick.
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And if you remove the battery too... and then send both the phone and the battery to separate countries on different continents, then oh my it'll last months.
OT: My battery life is poor I can barely get 1h sot, but I use note4 for productivity and internet and mail and etc, if I wanted a brick without any of those I'd buy a brick.
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i'm pretty sure that your battery is dead
Good tips for those who want better battery life but I guess I'm okay with 1-1.5 day standby, 5 hour SoT, and apps being downloaded from Play and synced continuously and save huge amount of time and complication rather than installing apks one by one! Also the phone charges more or less fast too.
Hmm...!
I found the part about downloading APK and manually install them is rather ridiculous, not to mention unsafe. Wouldn't just turn on airplane mode all the time or at least turn off mobile data/wifi would yield similar result. Taking battery off is rather stupid, the phone wouldn't be standby. But I think if you want a Note (Android phone w/ stylus) and long battery life, I think you are better off using a Note 2 or Note 3, as they are not using 4K screen. And combined with large battery pack and turning off mobile data would be a big improvement w/o much sacrifice. As you can still get update to app and data via wifi. Not to mention if you are close enough to get wifi, you probably are nearby power outlet to charge your phone. Of course if you are in an area where both cell and wifi signal are unstable, then turn on airplane or completely turnoff the phone is ideal to save the battery life as the phone is not in constant of checking for better cell & wifi signal. Use common sense, people, not ridiculous strategy. I buy and use the phone/accessories to fit my life(style), not fit my life to make the phone stay on standby for 14 days.
But that's not all, if you order now we also remove all icons from the home screen, set a black wallpaper and completely disable the sound.
Isn't that amazing Mike?
how to reduce google play services battery consumption ?
A0_o said:
how to reduce google play services battery consumption ?
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I think getting an iPhone helps with this.
Otelo said:
I think getting an iPhone helps with this.
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:crying::crying::crying:
how is iPhone doesnt draining battery in the standby and all notifications reaches in real time
Or you can do this, without loose anything.. Perhaps you wont have 16 days standby, but 10 you can make (if you are not using the phone), and you will still have a smartphone.
I have actually follow many things from there and see much much better battery..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
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i'm pretty sure that your battery is dead
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I wouldn't be so sure about it, after a few factory resets on stock rom, it was still the same about 1 hour most. Now I decided to flash a clean stock rom using odin, so far have 1,5 hour with 45% left... I wonder if sd card could be the culprit... as I removed it before doing everything and didn't put it back in, or maybe it was some rogue nonsense in system as system UI was the biggest drain before, uptime for nearly 8 hours...
this isnt a tip
waste of time
like turn off all the functionality i WANT and USE, so my battery life is "amazing"
lol
do us a favour
save YOUR battery by turning your phone off
?
With note 4, you can permanently activate ultra saving mode and it wouldn't have the same effect?
Eudemony said:
This is a little trick for those talking about battery life that hasn't really been discussed anywhere.
On my old S5 I tried this out and got AMAZING battery life.
Standby time was around 14 days (phone on)
SOT test was well over 6 hours (running a youtube playlist .. known as the "high on android SOT test" - link http://highonandroid.com/highonandroid-sot-test/ )
..and it is all to do with syncing and apps
basic gist, factory reset .. don't setup your google or samsung account, just skip
install apps you want to use via apk's downloaded to your phone (or preferably transferred via usb from your pc)
don't use any apps that want to connect to the internet and sync in the backgorund (i.e. email, facebook, etc do all that via you phones browser e.g. chrome)
what this achieves is your phone isn't constantly pulling information from the net to either update your apps (via google play / samsung apps or just updating the information contained within the app e.g. emails)
battery life is staggering
sorry i don't have any pictures anymore of the battery life graphs as I sold the phone recently
but this is something to keep in mind, and for those who want to try it let me know how you go!
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ok, without gmail , facebook, game, email, instagram ... why i need a smart phone ??!!!!