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I'm leaning pretty strong towards the former, but let me just say I am a *BIG* fan of Android. I bought the ADP1, and gave that to my wife when I switched to T-Mo & bought the MT3G. Both are great devices, and I run cm on them. Overall I have a great experience with these phones & they're super fun & convenient.
But on both devices, both when I had the ADP1 on AT&T and with the MT3G with T-Mo, (where I live I have to roam off of AT&T, so it's using the same towers as before.) all IM apps stink because they cannot stay connected. This is including the built-in gtalk & sms-based IM apps and every other free one on the market that I've tried. IM+, Meebo, eBuddy, Aimer, Hi Aim/Yahoo, imov, Palringo, all fail to keep a session open. I'm almost certain it's something with Android, because it's the same on mobile networks as with wifi, and I've used BlackBerrys on the very same networks & locations and not had this problem. At all.
So what gives? I'm not gonna pay for a chat app, even if that would solve the problem. These apps are free on BlackBerry, and I have a spare BB that I can swap my sim card into if I have to & just use the MT3G as a MID where I have wifi available. I'd love to jump in and try to write a chat app for Android that fixes this problem, but I'm at best a n00b dev & don't know where to begin. If there's someone out there with some guidance on how to get started on that, or if the problem is specific to something with me/my devices, or can explain this so I can understand the problem if not solve it, or any other input at all I'd love to get your feedback.
Maybe it's you or something up with your service
Maybe it's you, something up with your service, or your particular phones. Where my parents live, nothing works but ATT. I've had two BB which I couldn't even receive a signal.
Then when I moved up to the Dash and then to the wing, I received one bar and I could get all of my services to work, even the IM services. When I moved to the G1, two bars.
Now, with the MyTouch, I get three bars and all of my apps which require the network work. IM, text, phone. The blackberry wouldn't even get a signal let alone IM.
So maybe it has something to do with the service and the phone.
wierd thing is, at the very same location & networks, both wap & wifi, i get a completely different result on the mt3g than i do on the bb. there has to be something wrong with the android network stack or how IM apps use it or something.
hopefully i'm not speaking too soon...
... but i may have fixed my problem. i was thinking about how Android puts applications to sleep if it's low on memory, so i changed my userinit.sh script to enable swap. been logged in all afternoon. we'll see how well this continues...
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enabling swap fixed the problem. apparently Android system tells the chat apps to shut down to free up ram & they can no longer keep their sessions open.
thanks for the hint.
Thought about this a lot but didn't want to try.
Now I'll have to... Thanks
i used to use ebuddy on my htc magic.
and now i use the built in google voice/chat with my milestone.
both have been great for me...especially the latter. I dont even need to log on or anythnig. its just like recieving text messages
Now i have 256 megs of ram size. everything works just fine. more than that. minimal lag on switching apps and tabs(highest so far was 4 seconds)
Hello guiz. I am completely new with how to tweak the innards of my MyTouch.
What is this "swapping" you guys are talking about and how do you activate it?
Does it really help keep the AIM session connected despite being in the background?
I've always knew of the problem that causes AIM to constantly sign off when I try
using it, but never knew how to address the source issue.
Thanks for reply!
NO TETHERING
NO NAVIGATING
I really like/dislike my Samsung Vibrant. My HD2 was stolen and got the Vibrant on a temporary basis until the HD7 came out. Love the market place, hate the phone and the android service or whatever I had to switch my internet plan over to.
I cant stand roaming data charges. $30 a megabyte. Im pretty sure I wont get that with the HD7. Im a truck driver so I need tethering and navigating.
Is it possible for a tethering app in the future or is it a hardware thing?
It seems to be possible on the samsung phones, so it is possible. Cant say if itll happen on the hd7, but id bet its a matter of time before someone finds a way.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/windows-phone-7-usb-tethering-uncovered-on-samsung-phones/
they also got a lg wp7 phone to tether.
That will happen. As far as gps goes, bing navigation is supposed to be in the jan. 11 update.
I've had the SGH-T599N since October, and, coming from the Samsung Admire with all its roms and mods and support, I've found having this phone to be, well, not as great.
My 2 main gripes with using internet on this phone, are that some sites I go to just don't quite work right with however MetroPCS/T-Mobile has their network setup, which I'll sort of elaborate on, and as of late, the, for lack of better phrasing, the peaking and subsequent slowdown of my internet speeds.
I'll start with the latter, since it's easier to explain, and because I tend to ramble, I'll state the question again before explaining:
1. Is there any way I can mod this phone to bypass automatic network speed capping?
I have MetroPCS's unlimited 4G plan, which ran at satisfactory speeds always at hundreds of KB/s until recently, which I assume is due to my speeds being capped out of over-usage. Considering I use USB tethering daily, this is not shocking. The thing is, I could get around that with my Samsung Admire thanks to this mod: http://androidforums.com/admire-all-things-root/563714-mod-data-governor-remover.html and by extension, this mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372
Considering that was a 2.3.4/Gingerbread OS phone, this is a 4.1.2 phone, and I've looked around both of these forum sites long enough to know not to do any phone modding without extensive research and to wait for the bugs to be sorted out by others, I dare not even get my hopes up about being able to do that with this phone unless there's a confirmed forum post saying I can. Before that, I also found ways around the limits of my 3G network area that's bogged down by the sheer number of users, as thanks to QPST, but falls under the same situation. I don't even want to try modifying the build.prop, much less those deeper settings on my own for risk of breaking/bricking the one and only phone I have and still need to have functioning fully for many more months. So far, I've only gotten around all this by turning my phone and maybe the mobile network on and off, because the slowdown lock takes a couple minutes of use to kick in.
2. Can I change the network settings of this phone in a productive/significant manner, via APN changing, QPST, ROMs, or other such mods?
I've done all of these before on my Admire without any permanent errors. I found that APN Manager Pro is too outdated for this OS, and have yet to try similar APN programs for risk of permanent network damage. I cannot currently recall any significant mention of using QPST on this phone, or even this OS, so I've not tried that. The only ROMs I know of are Unjustified Dev's, both of which break the video camera functionality, which I have to have working. The only thing I've even done to this phone is root it and put ClockWorkMod from this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2421743. I haven't even bothered with the odexed files, bloatware, and such yet because I mostly use this phone as just a camcorder, an internet modem, and of course, a phone.
I wonder about this because it may indirectly solve the first problem, but there's different issues as well...I'll just explain:
Now, I notice that some sites I try to use with this phone simply fail to work as properly as they would if I were using a Wi-Fi network, something that also happened with my Admire. Unfortunately I don't have many examples that I can share for one reason or another other than these following two, which luckily involve big name websites. However, they may or may not prove useless in the end, so I'll put them in spoiler tags to be easily skipped over to go on to the more important part.
When I tried to access Tumblr with my old phone's network, whether I'm on my phone or USB tethering to my laptop, it always refused to let me log in, meaning I had to go to a Wi-Fi network and log in from there first, and then, if I wanted to "ask a question" aka submit a message to any of the blogs/pages I'm following/subscribed to, they would always say that that function is not available "at this time", which basically means forever since it seems to involve some error on Metro's side that'll never be fixed. I know it's not some kind of script error on the browser end, because if I stop the page from loading at the right moment, the text input field would actually display and maybe even work, rather than be dummied out by some eternal error message that doesn't even come up if I were using any other network.
Also, on my current phone, when I try to upload a video to Youtube on an associate's account while tethering to my laptop, it refuses to upload, much less even recognizing that I'm trying to upload, as it stays at 0 percent. This is also circumvented by just using a different internet connection. This does not ever happen when I'm using my own account, however, and I've managed to circumvent by changing the browser's user agent or switching browser completely.
Now, I said that the above two examples may not even be relevant, because these may be issues only I can reproduce. For some sites, I manage to get around the issues with different web browsers and/or user agent or proxy settings, but I sometimes get Gateway Timeout messages and other such unavoidable errors on sites that imply server side problems, but don't come up when I use other internet connections. Because the issues vary from site to site, I'm only asking for a verified method I can test directly on the phone, on my own, to get around these problems.
That's should explain enough of, if not all of the issues I'm having network-wise. It might seem like rambling, but it's better for me to explain it all now than for someone that actually has the answer to come by only to be missing one crucial bit of info. In case it is just rambling, to reiterate:
I have the 4.1.2 OS phone SGH-T599N, the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit from MetroPCS, which has been rooted along with CWM, but no other modifications. I'm trying to modify the network settings, and need a confirmed method, not a guess, on how to go about it.
Have you tried using a different browser? Opera will usually do things that chrome/stock can't. There are also YouTube uploader apps out there.
I think that if there was a magic hack to circumvent metro throttling out there it would at least have a sticky.
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Have you tried using a different browser? Opera will usually do things that chrome/stock can't. There are also YouTube uploader apps out there.
I think that if there was a magic hack to circumvent metro throttling out there it would at least have a sticky.
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Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Stock, no matter what browser I use, it fails to load. It's a network problem, not a browser problem. I also don't quite see any such app allowing me to schedule video posting, when even the Youtube app doesn't have this account specific function. What I do see is bunch of Youtube player apps and downloader apps, but no uploaders. Even if there was one with the option, I'd still have to go back to my laptop for it anyway, because there's a lot of information and tags I have to add to the videos, most of which is automatically loaded from Youtube's settings when using a comp, none of which shows up on a mobile.
As for the hack, considering the one I linked worked for me, but not for others, a mod that works only for certain networks isn't really the kind of thing that should be stickied. If this thread turns into a discussion on that, I'll never get a legitimate answer.
Suppose I need to bump this thread, since it got moved, and is over taken by the other threads.
Gotta switch but, I was wondering if 2 things are available in wp8 for sprint. 1- Is there any restriction for downloads and is there free Internet sharing. I realize this question is redundant but I keep getting different answers.
I can't speak for Sprint specifically, but in general...
The restrictions for downloads (I assume you mean things like "apps over 20MB must be downloaded over WiFi" or some such thing) should be the same as on WP7. In theory it's possible for us to override those restrictions, although I don't think anybody has yet written an app to do it.
The built-in "Internet Sharing" feature works exactly like it does on WP7. If your Arrive is allowed to do it, your Ativ S Neo will be too.
thanks
Let me explain. Sprint charges for WiFi hot spot usage. With Leads rom on my arrive I am able to use internet sharing for free. I guess my main concern about a switch is whether I can do this still for free. Thanks
If you don't see anything here, its because it hasn't been found yet. I'm trying to find the same for Verizon, but LTE has made a mess of things. The Android gurus won't help either...
I hope a internet sharing/hotspot solution is available for Sprint.
I'm eligible for upgrade March 1st, and was going to get the Ativ S Neo just for a change of pace. Been using Android for 3 or 4 years now, the last windows phone I had was a Touch Pro 2.
Not a deal breaker, but I do use hotspot fairly regularly to get around works firewall...
Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
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Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
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CDMA Tethering has changed these days. They have built in "entitlement checks" to see if your eligible for tethering. I went to one of the Verizon device threads and asked but no luck.
The device username is the only thing listed. On another note, Verizon's USB modems seem to talk directly through a Networking Adapter instead of a normal modem. Their VZManager might need looked at more.
Sprint might be different OTOH.
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Alright guys, I have this Iridium Go thing that I found and apparently they're expensive asf. It def doesn't run on any typical phone software, but anyone know anything about these things? Info online is pretty bare outside of their sales website. Even that isn't super informational. I know its either satellite internet or a satphone uplink, but it looks like it only works with their plan. Can't seem to get any data transfer connection to it either.