Why in the world does my phone do this? - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im certainly not new by any means to changing roms, or the whole flashing process, but lately my phone has been doing something... odd.
When switching from one rom to another (in this case zen's MT3G slide rom to freshes newest) i did the normal backup nandroid, wipe data/cache/dalvik, then flash the new rom. Everything goes smooth, the rom works, but my app drawer is populated with all the apps from the previous roms. And the funky part is, some of them work?? A lot of them do not, and will just FC when trying to be opened.
I dont use app2sd or even have the ext setup for that, however i do keep a folder on my SD card called apks where i store certain apps.
Any ideas??

part of the changes google has put in place recently, probably. They are linking your market-installed apps to your google account so when you go through setup on a rom it reinstalls your previously installed apps.

wadeheisen said:
part of the changes google has put in place recently, probably. They are linking your market-installed apps to your google account so when you go through setup on a rom it reinstalls your previously installed apps.
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See, i thought this as well, but these are apps that were not installed through the market (i mean, some are, but definitely not all). And also, like i said, a lot of them do not even work. Its like theres some residual app list thats not getting cleared when going from Rom to rom. This happened a few months ago too, but i havnt changed rom in so long i didnt think about it till i tried to the new fresh one.

Then yes, that is weird and I have no idea.

this happens to me. its your ext. when switching to a rom that has a2sd enabled it automatically installs the apps that were on ext. and yeah sometimes a few of them FC but just reinstall them and they will be fine

See if it happens after wiping ext then flashing.
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Wipe ext then see if they are there.
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danaff37 said:
Wipe ext then see if they are there.
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did you not read this?
I dont use app2sd or even have the ext setup for that, however i do keep a folder on my SD card called apks where i store certain apps.
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i did read that, however, he may ended up with an ext partition following instructions from somewhere else. It's the most logical explanation for his description.

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Lock 2.0 Downloaded Some Files Onto My Phone

My problem is that I got the application Lock 2.0 and it downloaded some files, the thing is, it didn't download to my sd card, it all went to my internal memory, so i went from around 17mb up to 67mb now.
I got the app from a theme on xda just yesterday, i don't remember which theme though. I didn't flash the theme onto my phone, I just pulled the application from it, so that might have been my mistake there.
I've uninstalled Lock 2.0 but the downloaded files remain on my phone, so is there a way I can get rid of them by deleting them using Astro? If so, can someone tell me the directory it's in?
I've tried looking through the folders in my phone already, but I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be looking for. All I could think of was a folder named Lock 2.0 or something similar to that.
Anartic said:
My problem is that I got the application Lock 2.0 and it downloaded some files, the thing is, it didn't download to my sd card, it all went to my internal memory, so i went from around 17mb up to 67mb now.
I got the app from a theme on xda just yesterday, i don't remember which theme though. I didn't flash the theme onto my phone, I just pulled the application from it, so that might have been my mistake there.
I've uninstalled Lock 2.0 but the downloaded files remain on my phone, so is there a way I can get rid of them by deleting them using Astro? If so, can someone tell me the directory it's in?
I've tried looking through the folders in my phone already, but I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be looking for. All I could think of was a folder named Lock 2.0 or something similar to that.
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If you don't know where the files are, how do you know for sure it was the app that put them there? Just asking. And if some files got put on your internal how did it go up and not down.
supremeteam256 said:
If you don't know where the files are, how do you know for sure it was the app that put them there? Just asking. And if some files got put on your internal how did it go up and not down.
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I meant that my phone only had around 17mb of memory used up and after Lock 2.0 downloaded its files, I had 67mb used up.
I know this because I have the internal memory widget on my homescreen and I checked the used up memory after I flashed cyanogen's new rom, that was right before I installed Lock 2.0.
Have you cleared your cache and data to see if that will go up? Alot is stored in your browser.
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Have you cleared your cache and data to see if that will go up? Alot is stored in your browser.
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Okay, I just did it, but it was under 3mb of cache, so that didn't really help.
I've had Lock 2.0 do something similar. It was downloading the default skin while I was driving, and I went from a 3g to a Edge area.
I'm not sure if the coverage switch caused it, but the download took forever.
By the time noticed that something might be wrong and killed the DL, it was too late and I started getting the "your internal memory is getting low!" notification.
I'm pretty sure it installed the 50MB skin to my internal memory and made my phone unusable. I eventually had to do a factory data reset and start over.
ryan75 said:
I've had Lock 2.0 do something similar. It was downloading the default skin while I was driving, and I went from a 3g to a Edge area.
I'm not sure if the coverage switch caused it, but the download took forever.
By the time noticed that something might be wrong and killed the DL, it was too late and I started getting the "your internal memory is getting low!" notification.
I'm pretty sure it installed the 50MB skin to my internal memory and made my phone unusable. I eventually had to do a factory data reset and start over.
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Okay, thanks for the suggestion, I also thought about a factory reset, but I'm not sure if my apps will still function properly after, since I'm running Apps2SD.
I assume my apps will be safe from the factory reset, but I've never actually done a factory reset, after I got the Apps2SD. Can someone tell me what will happen to my apps on my sd card if I do a reset though?
Anartic said:
Okay, thanks for the suggestion, I also thought about a factory reset, but I'm not sure if my apps will still function properly after, since I'm running Apps2SD.
I assume my apps will be safe from the factory reset, but I've never actually done a factory reset, after I got the Apps2SD. Can someone tell me what will happen to my apps on my sd card if I do a reset though?
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your apps will be fine after a wipe.. btw lock 2.0 does install the skin to your internal memory, it give you a warning when downloading to only download the one you want because it goes to internal memory.. you should have deleted it before uninstalling to see if it would work.
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your apps will be fine after a wipe.. btw lock 2.0 does install the skin to your internal memory, it give you a warning when downloading to only download the one you want because it goes to internal memory.. you should have deleted it before uninstalling to see if it would work.
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I don't remember it asking about downloading some files, I just remembered clicking on the app and just throwing it on my bed, from then on it just downloaded the files on its own.
Okay, just did the reset and it did wonders for my phone, only a few apps are screwed but a reinstall should fix them.
Thanks for the help guys.

need help with apps2sd on Fresh rom

I just installed the latest version of the fresh Rom. The page for the rom says it will automagically use apps2sd If The card is formatted properly. I use the recovery rom (1.52) to format the card, with a 32mb swap and 512mb ext. But, iapps2sd doesn't seem to be working. I have rbooted, and I have also used the recovery Rom to " move apps and dalv to SD", but the apps are still taking up the phones internal memory.
Is there something I'm missing to activate apps2sd, or move the apps over?
Thanks
http://geekfor.me/faq/apps2sd/
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
fx17 said:
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
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Everytime you install or run things, internall memeory is still used for data and other items that are not the APK file. What is the memory amount you show as free? A2SD only moves APK's to the SD. Additionally you can move the dalvik-cache there as well, but internal memory still gets used by app data, widget data, etc.. You might have a bunch of widgets storing lots of data.
Ceger
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
caguy83 said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
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It works fine for me. Just follow the instructions on link provided above by flipz
Don't forget to upgrade ext2 to ext3
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Ext4

I am using the newest cos 2.3.4 and I noticed when I move apps to the sdext 4 it dosnt change the internal storafe amount. But if I put them to just the sd it does show a change. Is there something wrong with my ext or is it just not showing right. Also what is the correct way to use the ext4 e.g. what apps to put there and wich ones to put on regular sd? Sorry I am a noob with the sd partitions.
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selfinflicted1 said:
I am using the newest cos 2.3.4 and I noticed when I move apps to the sdext 4 it dosnt change the internal storafe amount. But if I put them to just the sd it does show a change. Is there something wrong with my ext or is it just not showing right. Also what is the correct way to use the ext4 e.g. what apps to put there and wich ones to put on regular sd? Sorry I am a noob with the sd partitions.
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Did u wipe before installing the Rom?
Did u follow these instructions as quoted from the OP of the COS-DS ROM?:
"DO NOT USE A2SDext scripts with this ROM , before playing around with your applications, enable move apps from COS settings, and choose SD-ext as defult in Settings/Applications. You can and should move apks from sd-ext to phone as you like (seams apps set on sd-ext also will set the dex there!)"
And concerning which apps to put on ext, and which to not, you can install all apps on your ext4, except ones that must run on internal memory, like phone, messaging, camera, etc.
Thanks for the reply. Yes I followed the guide to a "t"
It shows that I am using some space when I check the system storage but when I check where the apps are installed it only shows one on the sd. Maybe its just a glitch that don't show them in the manage apps screen. Either way gotta say I am pleased with the performance of the rom. One more question if you don't mind, why can't I download any of these through rom manager? Its always either corupted zip or download failed. But the cm roms download fine, any guesses?
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Yea, roalex has done some amazing work.
That, I do not know. Maybe the mirror is not working, who knows,you should ask roalex. I just download all the builds on my computer and transfer them to my sd.
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Storage & App2SD issues..

Note: This is a long one, theres a tl;dr at the bottom of the page.
So, yesterday I bought the XDA Premium app from the market. I installed it, used it for a few hours, rebooted my phone, tried to open it back up, "Failed to load activity" error or something along those lines.
So then I looked it up on the market, it wasn't recognizing that it was installed, so I reinstalled it again. Used for a few hours. Rebooted my phone, same issue. This has happened a few times.
So I figured maybe some data was corrupt. So I installed it from the market, uninstalled it, tried to reinstall it again and it said not enough storage space on my phone. I looked and I have 2.77GB free space on internal storage.
So I figured I'd move some apps to the SD card anyways. Started moving all apps from my phone to SD using the App2SD app (Which I think just redirects to the application's page in settings). Everything seemed to work fine.
Rebooted my phone, and some icons on my screens in LauncherPro didn't load. Tried opening several of them.. all of them "failed to load activity". I'm talking about at least a dozen different programs here that had somehow gotten corrupted? Rebooted again, they didn't come back. Reinstalled a few of them and rebooted and one still wouldn't open.
So I'm restoring from a CWM backup I did just before I went to bed last night. Any opinions on what might have gone wrong or what I could do differently? Is 2.77gb reserved space for texts/cache/etc or was the "not enough storage" error incorrect?
tl;dr: xda premium was corrupting/wouldn't install because I *only* had 2.77gb free internal storage? Tried moving things with app2sd and many, but not all, corrupted after a reboot. Rebooted a second time, didn't solve any issues.
Don't use apps2sd with this phone. Go to settings, applications, media area, click on everything with a check mark, move to phone. This will solve your problem.
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mistawolfe said:
Don't use apps2sd with this phone. Go to settings, applications, media area, click on everything with a check mark, move to phone. This will solve your problem.
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So, as I mentioned above, I performed a recovery using an image I had created in CWM late last night.
Just for kicks I tried moving a single app to SD to see what happens.. Google+ went from 28mb on internal memory, to 8mb on SD. Restarted, it was corrupted and not even showing up in application list.
So whats the deal with our phones? They can't move anything to SD card without corrupting? Hopefully this is patched as I appear to be hitting the artificial 2.77gb cap on apps?
So.. my experiment with JUST moving Google+ to SD failed more miserably than I originally thought. Not only did G+ corrupt as I mentioned above, but my phone also started freezing again and VNC Viewer also corrupted itself.
So I had to perform a second recovery on my phone this morning. Ugh. Having way too many issues with this phone considering I only bought it maybe 2 weeks ago.
One more update.. hope someone can help me with this.
So I performed a recovery with CWM. Since then I have not done ANY App2SD attempts or anything. This is a recovery from before I ever did any of that.
Now, whenever I uninstall any app, when I reboot my phone several apps will corrupt. These are apps that I had used App2SD on before I had done the recovery. Its like, when I uninstall an app it finds some data from prior to the recovery and that corrupts the app...
Any way to fix this? I looked at my SD card and the only data on there is Titanium Backup data, CWM backup data, and a few zip files that I had put on there. I told ES File Manager to show hidden files and there is nothing on my SD that I see that could be making Android corrupt these files...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.. I'm starting to thing I'm going to have to do a fastboot recovery to completely stock and start over again..
If you restored a recovery, wasn't that recovery with apps2sd as well? Does that make sense?
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mistawolfe said:
If you restored a recovery, wasn't that recovery with apps2sd as well? Does that make sense?
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Here, I'll lay it out a bit more clearly:
1) Midnight last night I performed a backup with CWM. Everything was working fine, I hadn't done any changes or App2SD things yet.
2) Woke up at 10AM today and this was when all of the issues covered in this thread started. After 10AM today was when I first attempted to use App2SD Pro to move apps around.
3) I recovered using the recovery from part 1 of this message
4) I'm still having issues with programs corrupting even though I'm using an image from Midnight yesterday.
How can I completely wipe my phone then restore with Fastboot? Wipe SD, internal, everything.
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So it appears I fixed my problem.. even though I have run two complete restores using a backup from prior to my issues, some apps were still set to go on my SD card. So I guess a CWM backup doesn't store all file system data.
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Also some apps try to load on SD card watch out amazon apps. I've put 300plus sized various apps on my phone and didn't crack 2gb. And really 200apps or more your not going to have time for them.
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Yea, the XDA Developers app tries to load on the SD card by default. That was the entire root problem that caused all the above posts...
Hopefully Motorola fixes this SD card issue in the next patch.

[big concern]application stays!

hi guys, my problem is that, my application stays every after install of new rom..
ive tested almost all roms for stock kernel, so i can say i already know the basics(e.g factory wipe, reset etc...)
i tested it with different roms...and still there...
i used flashtool, rooted again...and when i installed a new rom, the apps are still there...
and my phone's internal memory is always 208mb...even if it's a new rom, still 208mb...
i already tried a hundred times of full wiping/factory reset...
i also tried the factory reset in settings...
this annoys me coz some of the settings also stay...
any idea guys?
What do you mean by "stay"? You've installed an application, then after every fresh install of any ROM it's still installed? What app?
From your explanation it's impossible to have user-installed application to stay still, because data partition is wiped if you install stock ROM from flashtool.
I think it's cuz you moved that app to sd card
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fundre said:
What do you mean by "stay"? You've installed an application, then after every fresh install of any ROM it's still installed? What app?
From your explanation it's impossible to have user-installed application to stay still, because data partition is wiped if you install stock ROM from flashtool.
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yes it's still there...i also find it impossible...that is why im shocked...and its not just an icon...its a real app because i can use it...
i dont put my apps on sd card...when i go to manage applications, the app is installed on the phone memory...
and one thing, it always displays 208mb on my phone memory whatever ROM i install...gdx,gingerxperia, foryopro....isn't it weird?
That's messed up
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whipe your SD card :/
yes it's messed up up...:/
It would be very useful, if you give us the name of that application
If you've moved the applications to SD card then ye have to move them back to The internal memory then do a factory reset .. or a full wipe ..
Good luck
baiclark said:
yes it's still there...i also find it impossible...that is why im shocked...and its not just an icon...its a real app because i can use it...
i dont put my apps on sd card...when i go to manage applications, the app is installed on the phone memory...
and one thing, it always displays 208mb on my phone memory whatever ROM i install...gdx,gingerxperia, foryopro....isn't it weird?
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Well try to use Titanium Backup to force uninstall that app.
ok guys here it is...i think i found the culprit...but still i don't know why it's happening...
the culprit is link2sd...
i managed to format my sd card including the sd-ext, and then i installed a fresh ROM....the problem is gone...i intalled some apps like root browser, link2sd, battery widget monitor etc...now after setting up link2sd, a lot of things force closes, almost everything that i open e.g settings, camera, gallery, ALL!....reboot is the solution....
now when i turn it on, it seems like(seems like), some of the data in the internal memory is AUTOMATICALLY LINKED to sd-ext...that's AUTOMATICALLY without doing the transfer on the link2sd...that is why i get 208mb of free memory because when i install a new rom, it automatically links it to sd-ext...
now if i install a new rom, the things that were linked to the sd-ext stays...that is why it shows up....
now could this be a link2sd problem?anyone having this problem?
is it because my SD-CARD is problematic?
hew...thanks guys

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