Can i root my froyo 2.2 keep the stock rom and receive OTAs? I basically want to have root without any modded rom's and be able to get OTA updates.
as long as you have the stock recovery you're ok for OTA
OTA updates will remove root, so you'll have to re-root.
You need stock recovery to apply OTA's and custom recovery to root.
Is your bootloader unlocked?
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I searched forum for that solution, but without results.
It would be nice to have tutorial for this.
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No my bootloader is locked
So then you'll be able to use an OTA but you'll lose root. With a locked bootloader that would be bad. Best to not use OTAs and instead rely on pre-rooted updates posted here. Of course you may need a custom recovery for that.
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In regards to stock recovery, where can i get a copy of it. I wanted to return to stock recovery to get the OTA so i don't have to perform manual updates. I currently have Amon's recovery.
C64c said:
In regards to stock recovery, where can i get a copy of it. I wanted to return to stock recovery to get the OTA so i don't have to perform manual updates. I currently have Amon's recovery.
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The "security fixes" in FRF91 include patching the exploit used to gain root with the bootloader locked.
So, if you revert to stock recovery and then install the FRF91 OTA - you will not be able to regain root unless you go back to a previous passimg, update to FRF85B and then install a repacked, pre-rooted FRF91 through custom recovery.
Basically, you can't have root on a fully stock FRF91 OTA
So to get root we now need to void our warranty? That's annoying.
No
From FRF91 you need to PASSIMG back to an earlier build, then update to 85B. The root with locked bootloader method works from there.
Then, as stated above, you can use a re-packed update to FRF91 to keep root. You just can't use the OTA to FRF91 and keep root.
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Can I meet up and get you to do this, willing to pay. Have a rooted running frf50, tried everything to het this loaded, no luck?
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Hello,
How do I get OTA updates back on my N1 after rooting/unlocking and using a custom rom. What rom do I need to use to get OTA back?
Thanks
I too would like to know this.
You can't. You need stock recovery.
The only thing I have to do is flash stock recovery?
Is it even worth it
Why do you need OTA when the devs have given you the ability to update via .zip files?
You can easily go back to stock recovery using ROM Manager in the market.
Hi All,
Was just looking into the prospect of rooting and I came across a post that basically responded to a guy asking whether subsequent OTA/Official updates would revert the root. the response was:
this might well happen. To be sure that this won't happen, don't update, or wait for a rooted version of the update to be released
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It's the bit in bold that's got me wondering. I have my Nexus running stock ROM but rooted (with locked bootloader). I have the problem with the WiFi which 2.2.1 claims to fix.....and I just wasting time thinking that this update might get released as a rooted version so I can just install and not worry about losing root?
Any help gratefully received.
Cheers
1. Already released as a rooted version (check the ROM section)
2. Really easy to root with rageagainsthtecage ...
Right I can ask you the question then......with the rageagainstthecage root method, is there anyway to install the update without flashing a new ROM...I'm ok with stock.
If you're rooted - install custom recovery and install pre-rooted ROM.
Or try to apply the stock update through stock recovery, if you have it.
Wiggz said:
Right I can ask you the question then......with the rageagainstthecage root method, is there anyway to install the update without flashing a new ROM...I'm ok with stock.
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Just install the OTA - it will unroot you.
then root with "rage"
check out modaco, he's got frg83 completely stock with root. just flash using custom recovery. I didnt do a wipe so everything stayed the same just updated to 2.2.1 and yes it seems the wifi issue was fixed.
Just get the stock rooted from geo411m's rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
The links here will also do it in 2 steps from custom recovery:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8419658&postcount=194
The geo411m link is a deodexed ROM and the one in the link above is not deodexed. Either way you get the fixes of the newer version.
Going forward, think of it this way with future updates:
If you apply the OTA, intending to lose root and then re-root, you always run the risk that all avenues of rooting (other than unlocking the bootloader) have been closed by the new ROM.
If you apply an update repacked for custom recovery, you don't have to worry whether the root exploit you used last time will still be valid.
nexusdue said:
Just install the OTA - it will unroot you.
then root with "rage"
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Thanks for that - honestly not sure why I didn't think of it
Ahh found a flaw in my plan.....it seems that verification fails on my Vodafone Nexus One (UK). I'm guessing there isn't an upgrade path from Vodafone's Froyo update to this yet. Suppose I'll have to wait for Voda's 2.2.1
Hi rooted my wildfire with unrevoked. Now i would unroot it to update with OTA and, I hope before Xmas, with Froyo.
In Superoneclick thread i read:
"Some devices have a NAND lock. SuperOneClick will only give a Shell root until you remove this lock.
The following phones can use unrevoked to remove this lock:
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- HTC Wildfire (HTC Buzz)"
If i'll install Superoneclick on my Wildfire rooted with unrevoked (and i think with nand unlock), will I be able to unroot in order to install OTA and then re-root?
Froyo still didnt hit WildFire, you can use this tool to download the OTA update manually
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786352
You can unroot by simply installing a corresponding RUU firmware (ie stock). This reflashes recovery, removing root.
However, I would strongly recommend you stayed away from returning to stock; we can't root stock 2.2 yet (not that it's even out yet). If you want to taste Froyo, simply flash Wildpuzzle, Cyanogen or Openfire (Wildpuzzle is closest to stock).
Furthermore, to reply to your post's question directly; there is no point in installing SuperOneClick. If you're already rooted, you can flash ROMs all you like, but without an AUFS kernel or similar, you still can't live write to system. There is no point to adding more root tools, to simply unroot, wait for Froyo, and then to not be able to reroot. If what you're wanting to do is update your Eclair OTA, so you don't have to wipe it but still get the update, then just OTA it in it's current state, and if needs be, unrevoke it again. There's little rigmarole necessary. Personally, the OTA does very little, though as I run custom like most on here, I get the latest Eclair build in my Wildpuzzle.
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
buzmay said:
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
buzmay said:
But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
buzmay said:
Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
buzmay said:
But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
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You need custom recovery to run the rooting process. After your system is rooted you can then flash back to the stock recovery. You should still have root access but I could be wrong. Download "Root Checker" from the play store, run it to see if your device is still rooted. You still need a stock recovery to receive OTA updates though.
The reason you need stock recovery is that you can't install an official update with custom recovery. The type of recovery you have doesn't affect root access.
The reason you have to keep your system files perfectly stock is that an OTA is a patch, meaning it doesn't necessarily replace entire files but mainly snippets of code. If the system files are not stock, it can't do this properly. So it checks /system before running and stops if things are not perfectly stock.
You can get OTAs being rooted, you just can't install them unless you have stock recovery and a fully stock rom.
If you're stock on 4.2.2 right now, you can't s-off, so don't worry about that.
You don't have to flash a custom rom, but you can flash a stock rooted rom. With OTAs, you play the cat-and-mouse game. Can I root it? Did the HBOOT update and kill current S-OFF procedures?
If 4.3 does come out, all you would have to do is wait for a few days for a dev to cook a stock rooted 4.3 rom. AT&T always lags with updates, yet I have a fully functioning 4.2.2 M7 with LTE and no AT&T bloat all thanks to the devs who cook stock rooted roms.
I've had mine Rooted with a custom recovery and a custom rom for months now, I was just wondering when the Sense 4.3 comes will it update everything for me as I cannot get OTA? If not, what do I have to do to get OTA back? Do I just have to install an official rom and recovery img? I'm guessing rooting doesn't stop OTA as I was able to OTA in the past on another phone with it rooted.
thanx.
slannmage said:
I've had mine Rooted with a custom recovery and a custom rom for months now, I was just wondering when the Sense 4.3 comes will it update everything for me as I cannot get OTA? If not, what do I have to do to get OTA back? Do I just have to install an official rom and recovery img? I'm guessing rooting doesn't stop OTA as I was able to OTA in the past on another phone with it rooted.
thanx.
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If you're not updating via OTA, then you're only updating ROM. Firmware and radio can be updated manually if you are s-off or if there's a firmware package that matches your CID and MID.
Flashing back to a stock ROM and recovery will allow you to accept OTA, then you can reroot and reflash custom ROM.
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