Hey,
I have been trying to root since the minute the process was let out publicly with no luck, until this morning. I have been through each thread over and over and finally found several things that made it work. After completing the task and going back over everything I tried. I found out the following and I would bet good money it will work for any one.
1. I left my phone plugged in the whole time. No usb cord inserting
2. I had it set to disk mode under pc connection in settings.
3. I used the 2gb card from verizon. Did not erase it. Don't know how it was formatted and don't believe it matters.
4. Made sure the HTC driver was working. This was done by having phone plugged in while in normal operating mode. To verify this once you hear the usb sounds in the command window at the C:/whatever/tools prompt type adb devices. It should come up with a serial number or such.
5. This will sound odd, but several of the methods talk about the screen flicker and not many talk about a sound the phone makes when it loads the sd card. That sound is real and audible if you put the phone to your ear. try it when you turn your phone on. You can hear it. That sound is the key. Try it by starting your phone normally and put it up to your ear. You will hear it.
6. Ok, if your phone is recognized by adb and you can hear the sound you have all you need. Make sure you have the necessay files downloaded to your tools folder.
7. With your phone in normal operating mode, shut it down. You need access to your battery and your sd card so the back needs to be off.
8. Pull the battery and unclick your sd card, hold Vol- and power. The phone will start and try to load the bootloader and leave you at the screen where you can select recovery.
9. Start Loop.bat
10. Press Vol - to select recovery and press power. move the phone close to your ear with your thumbnail on the sd card. When you hear that sound, immediately click in your sd card. The phone will goto the black triangle screen. The phone will then go through it's usb detection and when you hear the connected sound, you will get the error message. This may take 15-30 seconds. It took me 2 tries the first time, but now I have gotten it everytime I have tried since.
11. type in adb devices to verify that your in recovery.
12. Use your favorite method from here. The xda method is the one I used. Everything works fine. Wireless directly to my IPAD.
I think if I made a spread sheet of all the methods, sd cards and timings, we would find out that this is usually the thing that works. You can use the clock method, but I guarantee the right time collates with the cricket sound which collates with the screen flicker.
Anyone else smart that cares to look at this may be able to figure a way to streamline it even more.
Rod
sorry buddy but this old news we all knew about the audible sound, most people tried clicking in the sd card at that point, others tried plugging in usb at that point, buts we all knew about the sound and tried different methods to get it to work. personally i tried your method and it didnt work before i actually rooted. the method i used, envolved a linux live usb flash drive, linux live sd card formatted, and the tail messages, worked everytime the first time, if i missed the first time i had to restart the entire process. atleast now you are rooted
Jesus, everyone has a method that works for "everyone".
Apparently "Search" is broken?
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Jesus, everyone has a method that works for "everyone".
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I hear what you're saying, but we shouldn't stifle discussion that could lead to a more reproducible method, either. Maybe this doesn't warrant a new thread, but whatever.
Anyway, I had tried several of the other methods before, maybe 20-30 times, but nothing worked. I tried to time it with the click sound a couple times before, and it didn't work, but I thought I'd give it another try, since OP mentioned he got it to work with the stock 2GB SanDisk card, and that's all I have.
This time, I got it on the second attempt. My reflexes were a little slow, so it was probably more like a half-second after the click sound that I managed to click in the SD card. I haven't attempted to get back yet, so I don't know how repeatable it is.
One thing that may or may not be worth trying for others is that right before I got it, I uninstalled HTC sync, installed the bootloader drivers from the unrevoked site (can't post URL since I'm a noob).
Then uninstalled them (check "delete drivers" when doing so they won't auto-reinstall), reinstalled HTC sync, and finally reinstalled the bootloader drivers. I did the last reinstall because the device wasn't showing up when the phone was in the bootloader menu w/just HTC sync. It's unclear if any of this made a difference, or if I just got lucky with my timing this time.
When I was booting into recovery and pushed in the SD card, very shortly afterwards, I got a balloon in the bottom right that said it was installing the drivers (again? is that expected?). After that, rewt!
Oh lord, if I never saw another one if these threads, I could die a happy man. They're about as useful as alchemy, phrenology, perpetual motion machines, astrology, cold fusion, x-ray specs, etc etc ...
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The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
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The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
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Because the title is so vague that you don't know it's YARMTISWWFE (Yet Another Root Method That I'm Sure Will Work For Everybody) thread until you read it?
If you couldn't figure out the post content by this time:
I have been trying to root since
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Then some folks here might want to get tested for some learning disabilities. Don't even have to finish the first sentence to figure out what this thread was about.
To become rooted, do you have wipe your phone and sd card?
No, you definitely do not need to do that.
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The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
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I wanted to see who was pretentious enough to think that their hare-brained scheme for rooting needed a new post, why they thought their experience could possible impact developing for the Inc, or what could possibly justify tacking "for devs" on the title of their post--as if they succeeded in making a secret club of a thread by doing so.
If he/she really wanted to help devs, they might have PM'd the guys involved with Unrevoked first, or joined their IRC channel, rather than clogging up the forum with another rooting thread. Honestly, there's enough going on now to think of others' purposes here before your "eureka" moment. Too bad I had to bump this thread just to respond.
Why be so mean? The more discussion on obtaining root the better I would think. Maybe this topic was not helpful but another one someday might and if people like the rude folks bashing the OP in this thread make others afraid to post then we might never get a reproducible method.
The sooner we get a reproducible method the better, because that means more folks to test and a wider user base for ROMs. I dont think a developer would spend too much time on a ROM for a device that they do not own and feel only a handful of people would have access to.
Oozura said:
Why be so mean? The more discussion on obtaining root the better I would think. Maybe this topic was not helpful but another one someday might and if people like the rude folks bashing the OP in this thread make others afraid to post then we might never get a reproducible method.
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You call it mean, I call it strongly discouraging more speculation on a topic that already has a dozen or more threads going. As you can see by the proliferation of more advanced thread recently, most have moved on from trying to root, which common sense would tell one is caused by most having figured it out.
Maybe everyone has figured it out, maybe not. I imagine if you started a thread and asked who was still trying you would get several folks respond that they were. Nothing indicative of the entire population but just saying.
Edit: I just saw your avatar and then your use of such excellent gramar and vocabulary above. Did you make your own lingwo(sp) robot?
This thread has turned into a flame fest against the OP (since pretty much the beginning of it). Thread closed.
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1. Install HTC Sync 2.0.25 onto your PC (it came with your phone) (maybe the custom driver works but I haven't tried it yet)
2. Power off your device
3. Remove the battery
4. Plug in your USB cable
5. Insert your SDcard (any kind, it doesn't matter the type, i have 6 different cards and class associations in my possesion and have rooted all of my co-workers DI's today using all 6 cards for proof of concept, 9 phone total [Everyone wanted Wireless Tether)
6. Insert your battery
7. Hold Vol. Down button + Power button
8. Start and loop (you can start this before now if you wish, just has to be before entering recovery)
9. After the phone scans the sdcard choose "Recovery" and press the Power button.
*10. SOLUTION: As soon as the white screen appears just casually (don't be a speed demon) click IN & OUT your sdcard and continue to do so (keep clicking it) when the black screen with triangle appears. You will be listening for the last windows chime that identifies the USB has registered. But, you want to stop with your last sdcard click IN just before the last windows chime is sounded through your PC speakers. You might need to do this a couple times just to get familiar with the timing of the windows sounds on your computer system. Those phones that don't have to do this and was rooted first have a much earlier timing of when the Exploit is active.
11. Now go get Rooted using the steps on the first page of this post.
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1. Install HTC Sync 2.0.25 onto your PC (it came with your phone) (maybe the custom driver works but I haven't tried it yet)
2. Power off your device
3. Remove the battery
4. Plug in your USB cable
5. Insert your SDcard (any kind, it doesn't matter the type, i have 6 different cards and class associations in my possesion and have rooted all of my co-workers DI's today using all 6 cards for proof of concept, 9 phone total [Everyone wanted Wireless Tether)
6. Insert your battery
7. Hold Vol. Down button + Power button
8. After the phone boots up and scans the sdcard choose "Recovery" and press the Power button.
*9. SOLUTION: As soon as the white screen appears just casually (don't be a speed demon) click IN & OUT your sdcard and continue to do so (keep clicking it) when the black screen with triangle appears. You will be listening for the last windows chime that identifies the USB has registered. But, you want to stop with your last sdcard click IN just before the last windows chime is sounded through your PC speakers. You might need to do this a couple times just to get familiar with the timing of the windows sounds on your computer system. Those phones that don't have to do this and was rooted first have a much earlier timing of when the Exploit is active.
10. Now go get Rooted using the steps on the first page of this post.
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is this while running loop.bat? it didn't say
vzw said:
is this while running loop.bat? it didn't say
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yes run the loop.
I tried this for about an hour with no result btw.
Worked for me
Seriously , this is the EXACT same steps that has been posted numerous times before. When you speak of a Solution as something Final it SHOULD NOT involve trial and error steps that require timing or just *luck*.
What a waste of a post and thanks for im sure getting peoples hopes up.
Seriously , this is the EXACT same steps that has been posted numerous times before. When you speak of a Solution as something Final it should involve trial and error steps that require timing or just *luck*.
What a waste of a post and thanks for im sure getting peoples hopes up.
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Yes you run the loop but not necessary to run in a loop. Yes it is about timing and similar posts have been made but I think I've written it with more detail.
These precise steps worked with the exact timing on 8 DIFFERENT phones yesterday. If its not working for you then perhaps you don't know how to follow directions well.
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Yes you run the loop but not necessary to run in a loop. Yes it is about timing and similar posts have been made but I think I've written it with more detail.
These precise steps worked with the exact timing on 8 DIFFERENT phones yesterday. If its not working for you then perhaps you don't know how to follow directions well.
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You know, just because it worked for you doesn't mean it will for others....
I CAN follow directions well, and I can't get it reproduced. (though it may be because I'm already rooted?)
Just keep clicking that card in your own intervals after the white screen and you will get it. With my own proof I can contest that there is a BIG misconception that this is only achieved during the White screen. NOT TRUE!!!
Those steps are what I experimented with trying to root my own DI and it worked. I was not convinced I'd get it to work on other phones since It's been days and countless hours trying to get mine to connect to ADB in Recovery. So, one of my co-workers let me try it on his phone with his different card type, and one co-worker after the other, success! The root I did on MY phone was with an sdcard I bought that came with some of the phones (SanDisk 2gb). I didn't get a free card from VZW. I had FASTER success with this card of all 6 cards I've rooted with. It took longer with the other cards, class 4 PNY, and off-brand class 6 cards. With the 2gb SandDisk class 2 it works on the first try for every phone I've tried.
Did you have HTC Sync installed as your active driver, I really can't say if the customer driver works as I haven't tried it myself? My laptop is the latest Sony VAIO F-series with Core i7 with Windows Ultimate x64. In Device Manager, while in HBOOT my phone only showed up as Android 1.0 and as HTC Bootloader.
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You know, just because it worked for you doesn't mean it will for others....
I CAN follow directions well, and I can't get it reproduced. (though it may be because I'm already rooted?)
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No, and if you want to be in tune with the FINAL SOLUTION, your chakras must be aligned with Lady DI and her mysterious ways. I recommend balancing her on your head while you sleep for a fortnight, and then comes the sacrificial goat!
Seriously OP, I followed the last CARD CLICK prophet's advice and now my card mushes into lock--the DI just ain't built for the kind of abuse frenzied insert/ejection creates. I respect that you're good at what you do, but as others have found, teaching timing with http very difficult, at best.
I installed root by using an old laptop with XP... I had one point installed the HTC drivers. In this case, I had unistalled the HTC drivers and the HTC sync driver. Now I only used the SDK usb.inf drivers with the modified line for HTC incredible.
rynosaur said:
No, and if you want to be in tune with the FINAL SOLUTION, your chakras must be aligned with Lady DI and her mysterious ways. I recommend balancing her on your head while you sleep for a fortnight, and then comes the sacrificial goat!
Seriously OP, I followed the last CARD CLICK prophet's advice and now my card mushes into lock--the DI just ain't built for the kind of abuse frenzied insert/ejection creates. I respect that you're good at what you do, but as others have found, teaching timing with http very difficult, at best.
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Oh CHAKRAS! Formula 51 reference FTW!!!! B.E.S.T. M.O.V.I.E E.V.A.R.R.R.R.!.!.!.!
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Oh CHAKRAS! Formula 51 reference FTW!!!! B.E.S.T. M.O.V.I.E E.V.A.R.R.R.R.!.!.!.!
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Believe it or not, I haven't seen it yet--just added it to my Netflix queue tho.
OP, can you get us a dmesg of you hitting the timing with your method? I want to see how it reacts to mounting/checking the sdcard devices more than once in recovery boot. I think good dmesg logs would help us all figure out what's going on here . . . .
From what I've seen
rynosaur said:
Believe it or not, I haven't seen it yet--just added it to my Netflix queue tho.
OP, can you get us a dmesg of you hitting the timing with your method? I want to see how it reacts to mounting/checking the sdcard devices more than once in recovery boot. I think good dmesg logs would help us all figure out what's going on here . . . .
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It depends on how quick you insert/remove. It takes anywhere form a 1/2 second to 1 second between the initial "Slot changed from 0 -> 1" to where the card is actually mounted. If you click too fast, you never that that "mount" so you'll never get root, since it seems like the "mount" is actually causing the error we need. If you slow down your insert/remove to a slower pace, you'll get numerous mounts of the sd card. This might increase your chances of getting root because you're mounting multple times, but it makes the mounts more random then precise timing, and unfortunately, to get our error that we need, the read needs to happen at a percise time. You've seen the dmesg that was posted by 'mite.
THANK YOU OP! Worked for me :-D
My other 2 incredibles had worked consistently, but this one took your process to get.
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You've seen the dmesg that was posted by 'mite.
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Yeah, and I'm still wondering why he was so 'elliptical' about explaining what was going on there. I still can't figure out if it's the mount process or the mounted card that triggers the adbd event, or if a delayed sdcard process simply pushes adbd start into the recovery window, when commands such as 'adb shell' can be received by daemon for a split/few seconds. Would be nice to hear his explanation of what system events are occurring outside of what is logged in dmesg. The OP says mount event can complete in recovery/black screen, you say sdcard mount must complete before black screen, that's a big diff.
I wonder if it's possible to create a host-side script that reads dmesg, watches for card mount and triggers 'adb shell' at a much faster rate than a simple win shell 'loop'. That would be killer, and would eliminate all need for card insertion timing, IMO.
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Yeah, and I'm still wondering why he was so 'elliptical' about explaining what was going on there. I still can't figure out if it's the mount process or the mounted card that triggers the adbd event, or if a delayed sdcard process simply pushes adbd start into the recovery window, when commands such as 'adb shell' can be received by daemon for a split/few seconds. Would be nice to hear his explanation of what system events are occurring outside of what is logged in dmesg. The OP says mount event can complete in recovery/black screen, you say sdcard mount must complete before black screen, that's a big diff.
I wonder if it's possible to create a host-side script that reads dmesg, watches for card mount and triggers 'adb shell' at a much faster rate than a simple win shell 'loop'. That would be killer, and would eliminate all need for card insertion timing, IMO.
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I don't think so. Don't have the devices in front of me right now, but I believe that the phone is disconnected from the PC (that first do - do) before our window of opportunity, which means the pc is not communicating with the phone at all. So if (big if) I am correct, nothing local to the PC can be done to initiate anything AT THE TIME that we need it to.
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I don't think so. Don't have the devices in front of me right now, but I believe that the phone is disconnected from the PC (that first do - do) before our window of opportunity, which means the pc is not communicating with the phone at all. So if (big if) I am correct, nothing local to the PC can be done to initiate anything AT THE TIME that we need it to.
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Dat's kinda what I thought
I'll try to get you guys a dmesg as soon as possible. I'm at work right now and I'm responsible for alot of servers at a law firm in DC. (never get any free time it seems) I'm been trying to check in with you guys as often as I can. It's brutal today because we have Maintenance tonight throughout the morning.
This is what I found by myself to work for me after trying for 3 days originally.
Say what you will about the OP, but the timing is key and his post did help me out. I've tried tons of cards, every method out there and had no luck, until now. So for what's it's worth, this post was much appreciated.
So, I have successfully bricked my phone (not by choice). I am a long time WinMo user and I have never even come close to bricking a phone. Today was exactly one week from when I bought my first android phone and I bricked it.(not blaming android, I love android)
I have tried EVERYTHING, to no avail.
My phone is on the phone++!++computer screen.
So, first thing tomorrow morning, I am headed to the AT&T store for replacement (I will act dumb and get the phone).
My questions are -
1.Will my information (contacts,emails,etc.) on the phone be checked or in any way violated?
2.If they do find out that I had rooted the phone, after I have already walked out of the store, can they do anything about it?
1: Yes, the contacts and all other data on the phone itself is still there, and will all still be there when Samsung / AT&T *un-bricks* the phone.
2: They "could", but I am not knowledgable enough to know if they "will".
Or, save yourself the hassle, and the negative moral karma, and read here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've intentionally (with much failure), tried to "break" the phone so that I'd know how to fix it.
The above linked post will not only recover you from your "phone++!++computer" issue, but actually works so far as the dreaded "orange hex dump".
TehDave said:
1: Yes, the contacts and all other data on the phone itself is still there, and will all still be there when Samsung / AT&T *un-bricks* the phone.
2: They "could", but I am not knowledgable enough to know if they "will".
Or, save yourself the hassle, and the negative moral karma, and read here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've intentionally (with much failure), tried to "break" the phone so that I'd know how to fix it.
The above linked post will not only recover you from your "phone++!++computer" issue, but actually works so far as the dreaded "orange hex dump".
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I have tried everything. I don't want to return this phone, but there is no option left.
None of the methods work and I am pretty experienced in this stuff. So, its not that I am messing up on the methods, its just that there was a batch of phones that had the key combos disabled.
Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
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Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
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I can tell you that by flashing ONLY the pit file in odin another user and myself were able to succesfully make the phone unresponsive to all buttons, all methods and all pulls of the battery. it literally turned into a brick...then again i would call this an illegitimate method after realized how simple it is now. as long as i can get power to the phone thou i have to agree ive been able to save it every time now
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Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
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Seriously?
I was up for six hours last night trying to fix the damn thing. I don't want to replace the phone just because I want to beat the system. I have never ran into problems when I am modding. I always figure it out, but when the phone is absolutely unresponsive to all keys, what am I going to do?
Anyways, this thread can be closed now.
That same screen (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8420/hum1e0.jpg) happened to me yesterday. I thought I had tried all of the key combos but I missed one.
Try the following: (I know you said you tried all of the methods, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 (Method 3)
I hope if you have not tried that yet, that it will work for you and save you the hassle of going to ATT.
Alec5216
seems pretty complicated to flash this phone. My last one-Nokia N900- is very easy to work with. It never get bricked.
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That same screen (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8420/hum1e0.jpg) happened to me yesterday. I thought I had tried all of the key combos but I missed one.
Try the following: (I know you said you tried all of the methods, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 (Method 3)
I hope if you have not tried that yet, that it will work for you and save you the hassle of going to ATT.
Alec5216
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I tried that too, nothing. I got it exchanged. No hassle.
AT&T store rep just said the phone will be factory reset and there is nothing to it.
Anyway thanks for the help folks, really appreciate it.
Lets hope, I don't bust this one because the phone I just got is also impervious to key combos. I tried getting into recovery (just for the heck of it), it didnt work with the keys, had to do it with "adb reboot recovery".
I have a dead phone I'm toying with. It's not on with the network. This is my first attempt at rooting etc. I would like to just have it as a sort of game/fun/toy phone. I have a G1 from Tmobile that I use and not going to try and root until I get a new one, then perhaps also have that as a game/fun/toy phone. Anyway, I have a Sprint Hero and how I've been getting apps and such on it is by swapping SD cards and doing a back up or connect via wi fi from one of the sites with a list of freeware to download. I want to get rid of the apps that I don't want/need for this phone. I'm not going to use it to call people so I would like that off too if I could. I would like to keep the wi fi though. I am new to this and trying to figure everything out. I just got busybox and rom manager on the phone. So, now what? How do I get those annoying stock apps I don't want/need? I really don't need to change the whole face of it, just those apps to be removed and I'll be happy with it. Thanks
by the way
I forgot the build.
I'm on 2.31.651.7
rooted from one click that I found from the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hero_CDMA#Miscellaneous_Simple_How-To.27s.
Please search around, most of the common questions, more often than not, have already been answered.
ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
I also want it as some type of "toy" for him to play with instead of taking MY phone! lol. I have toddler lock on it and he seems to like it. But I don't really want him to have it until he stops "chewing" on it. My G1 case cover is ruined from him. lol. oh well. He likes to play with phones because everyone else does. They start early now. I downloaded all sort of kid games so when that day comes, I can say, here you go when he takes mine!
But I'm lost on figuring out if there is a program I need? Or if the superoneclick has it in the app. I have it on our Windows computer and I'm currently on our Mac. And that computer is so slow and now I have to spend the time to try and clean IT out. Its running Vista and I have a copy of 7 but I don't feel like dealing with all of that. sigh.
Does tethering work with phone to phone? Like connect my non network phone to my G1 for internet like when we go on vacation and my nonsmart phone partner wants to use the net and so do I, that we can share. I'm guessing USB cable would do that? I don't know, there is just so much to read up on for a newbe trying to figure it out. Time for sleep now.
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ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
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Well, nobody around here sits around on their butts staring at the screen, waiting for people like you to ask questions... so that they can answer. If you think of this as "Customer Service", think again. Everyone here has primary jobs, they do this because they like it and are passionate about it.
Having said that, nobody is saying "No" to answering questions... just try searching and looking up the obvious links, first.
Geeze. sorry. I just thought Maybe someone else maybe already had done it and point me in the right direction. I try searching and can't find anything in what I'm trying to do. So a here, try this and this and such would be nice. Thought I give a bg on what I wanted to do with it. And I'm still new and get lost around here. Tech langauage changes every 6 months along with the phones. I see "flash" and I think of the Adobe program or the flash on a camera. So forgive me. And I guess nevermind.
I agree with the others here. There is a wealth of tutorials available, and when used will achieve your goal of a "toy". However, I will help you out by providing a framework of things you will need to do. Bear in mind you will need to do the searching though. This way you will learn more about the phone, and you will have a better sense of what to do if something doesn't go right, etc.
First, you need to have your phone rooted. Rooting allows you full access over the phone. Most rooting utilities will install "Busybox", a set of binaries that grants you the ability to use special commands. Next, you will want to install a custom Recovery image. There are two mainstream ones available: Amon-RA and ClockworkMod. Either is fine. The recovery image allows you to make backups of your phone, install new ROMs, and reset settings, among other things. After the recovery image is installed, you will want to search for a list of "safe to delete apps".
I hope this helps you somewhat. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me.
Mike
I am wondering how stop an update on a Droid Bionic?
I understand you need to "move the update from /cache to your SD card" once downloaded.
However, I do not know where "/cache" is located, how it is accessed, or how the moving process is done.
I connected my phone to a PC via USB and could not find "/cache" stored on the phone. The only thing close was a cache folder within "com.google.android.apps.maps", which doesn't seem like what I'm supposed to be looking for. I've also tried looking in Menu>Settings>Storage but do not see any 'cache' info.
I've been searching the forums but have had no luck; plenty of references to a 'cache' from
people who clearly know what they are talking about, but I can not find any explanations or instructions.
Any help is appreciated. This is my first Android device btw! (though I've been reading this forum for a week or two now)
Wow, you're wanting to stop .905 while most people are chomping at the bit to get 6.7.xxx. You can't do it with your PC, you will need to do it from your phone with a file manager app.
I think you need to be rooted to see the cache'. you will also need a root file manager like "root explorer" to move the update to your SD Card.
ICS is much much better than the GB OS. I would reconsider the update, better things are coming around the corner.
If you choose to stay at .902, I would suggest doing some reading about the rooting process. Bad things can happen if you haven't done some research.
There are many here that will be glad to help you, but you will need to be a little knowledgeable to "help them, help you"
root .902
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/198045-902-root-method.html
advanced root and play with leaks and return (well written, read 1st post several times,) also has links to current drivers
SamuriHL spends his life supporting that thread and spends too much time helping others
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html
I'm not sure if I helped or confused, mainly just want you to be aware
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Wow, you're wanting to stop .905 while most people are chomping at the bit to get 6.7.xxx. You can't do it with your PC, you will need to do it from your phone with a file manager app.
I think you need to be rooted to see the cache'. you will also need a root file manager like "root explorer" to move the update to your SD Card.
ICS is much much better than the GB OS. I would reconsider the update, better things are coming around the corner.
If you choose to stay at .902, I would suggest doing some reading about the rooting process. Bad things can happen if you haven't done some research.
There are many here that will be glad to help you, but you will need to be a little knowledgeable to "help them, help you"
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thanks; that's really what I needed, a point in the right direction. I confess it's a bit new to me. I just got this phone, programmed it using steps found here (great forum!), and activated it on pageplus, but this was the first time I just got 'stuck' on something.
I read that 3G worked much better with 902 than with 905. this is why I was thinking of sticking with 902, at least until a legit/finalized version of ICS gets released (which allegedly, is very soon...maybe). Since I don't know much about the OS yet I figured I could survive the wait without 'knowing what I'm missing' so to speak.
whoa, just googled and saw that a new leak is out. I picked an odd time to be a newb working on a Bionic.
Thanks again!
If you do take the plunge into a leak, you should probably stick to one where FXZ to 902 isn't blocked so you can return to stock if needed. Everything 235 and after is poison, so to speak, and you won't be able to go back, which (thanks Moto) makes it really difficult to go forward (thanks Moto). I'm on 232 and I'm happy as a clam. It's stable and doesn't have many issues. Now when the official update comes out, they should release an FXZ and we'll be safe again and can all take the dive into ICS.
so, I realized you could postpone the update by just not accepting it when the prompt comes up.
so, I use my Bionic for a while and am quite happy. Then today, I noticed I no longer had 3G service. I tried restarting it, removing the battery,
toggling some of the data changes, no luck. I figured since ICS is (allegedly) right around the corner, there was really no reason not to go ahead and update.
I ran the update. I now have no phone service, no texting, and no 3G/1x.
My question is: how far in the process do I need to go back to get things running again? Right now what I have is a blinking white triangle in the notifications bar. My phone is stock in every way.
Edit: in "about phone/status" I have no phone number (it's blank). no MIN, no network. My PRL version is 'unknown'. so, basically I think I need to just start over, using the info I used successfully before (adam3rd is my hero), beginning with flashing a pageplus PRL. but I shouldn't need to reactivate it on pageplus, or need a new sim card, right? I feel like whatever happened wouldn't have effected my status with PP or the sim card, but I can't find a clear answer....any help appreciated
The white triangle is your phone searching for a signal to activate itself. Take your sim card out and re-insert it. you may need to wipe the dirt off the gold metallic area
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The white triangle is your phone searching for a signal to activate itself. Take your sim card out and re-insert it. you may need to wipe the dirt off the gold metallic area
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thanks for the response. I actually had 4 bars of signal strength along with the white triangle. I'd assumed this meant I could 'detect' the verizon/PP network but wouldn't be able to get out of 'roaming' status until it was activated for the network.
I actually contacted PP via chat to reactivate it. they did it, but the problem wasn't resolved so I tried a factory reset. boom, activation screen came up! now I have fone and text again.
my real problem now is getting data to work consistently. gonna wait until the legit ICS comes out before tackling that one again.
You're going to love .246
no signal drops, fast reaction on apps. it's truly a who;e new phone experience
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You're going to love .246
no signal drops, fast reaction on apps. it's truly a who;e new phone experience
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yes, I'm very excited. a little paranoid about updating since I'm on PagePlus and haven't seen anyone use Pageplus and .246 yet. but I may just try using the info on howardforums; I know it 'should' work, but that's just not the same as confirmation.
on a side note; I believe I may have discovered what my data problem was; I think I'd just disabled the 'connect with data over mobile network' option and forgotten I'd done so a month later. pretty funny. but it's been a good learning experience, heh
Okay, how about this one?
My phone WAS stuck in one of these infamous boot loop/battery thingys, but I just removed the battery and charged it with an external RC Battery charger ($60, charges EVERY type of battery, everyone should have one). When I put it back in, everything was great. I then used Flashtool to unlock the bootloader without problem. Then I went to flash a stock ROM to the thing via flashtool and left it go. When I came back, flashtool had completed the operation without errors, and had last told me to reset the phone. The phone, however, wouldn't turn on or respond AT ALL to anything I did. So I took the battery out and charged it, thinking it must just have run out of power but upon putting the battery back in, the phone remained unresponsive.
No modes, no lights, nothing. The ONLY thing that happens is if I have the thing plugged into the PC and I hold the UP (maybe the DOWN, i don't remember) button, the PC detects and tries to find drivers for something called QHSUSB_DLOAD... qualcomm High Speed USB download drivers, maybe? I've looked around and somewhere someone said that for another Xperia (don't remember which one) THEY had read that you could get the phone into flashboot mode somehow once installing the drivers. They supposedly come with the "gordon's" USB tools or whatever the heck it's called, but I couldn't get xp to accept anything included with gordon's as a proper driver. Yes, I know I had to INSTALL gordons, since an exe sure isn't a driver.
I've also found that, at least for the Galaxy 2, once you're at a point where it's asking for QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers, there's nothing you can do short of JTAG repair. However, as my friend so succinctly put it, "That's not a galaxy, it's an xperia" so I'm still holding onto hope. Anybody have any ideas? Or where I could find a QHSUSB_DLOAD driver and what to do with it then? I AM planning on getting a jtagger soon, so maybe this'll be the reason I finally do.
1) you did not unlock your boot loader successfully using flash tool, that's impossible.
2) uninstall all Sony and any phone software/drivers from your PC
3) charge your phone for at least 24 hours without touching it.
4) install pccompanion to your PC
5) with the phone still turned off, press and hold the volume down button and attach usb cable, then whilst still holding the volume button press the power button until the phone vibrates.
6) the phone should go in to flash mode and you should be able to repair using flash tool, if it doesn't try the next steps.
7) install flash tool and run drivers.exe, choose flash mode, fastboot and tx drivers.
8) press and hold volume. Up and power button until phone vibrates and go back to step 5
9) after you have tried all this please let me know what happens
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1) you did not unlock your boot loader successfully using flash tool, that's impossible.
2) uninstall all Sony and any phone software/drivers from your PC
3) charge your phone for at least 24 hours without touching it.
4) install pccompanion to your PC
5) with the phone still turned off, press and hold the volume down button and attach usb cable, then whilst still holding the volume button press the power button until the phone vibrates.
6) the phone should go in to flash mode and you should be able to repair using flash tool, if it doesn't try the next steps.
7) install flash tool and run drivers.exe, choose flash mode, fastboot and tx drivers.
8) press and hold volume. Up and power button until phone vibrates and go back to step 5
9) after you have tried all this please let me know what happens
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1) Are you sure of that? I mean, it even has a BUTTON for it... it just automates the flashboot thingy if I remember correctly... the thing is, when I was writing my post, I wasn't sure if I was confusing this phone with another I was working on right then... but, no I'm pretty certain I did it through flashboot. Maybe not. Anyway, it wouldn't have even let me flash if my bootloader was locked still, right?
2) Haha- I'm afraid that's not really possible, BUT I already have PC companion installed and it was working fine. (Can you unlock your bootloader through PC companion? Maybe THAT's what I did- I KNOW I didn't do it through the command prompt, though...)
3) Okay, I am actually trying this as we speak, though I did take the battery out and charged it fully already
4) PC Companion installed
5) asks for QHSUSB_DLOAD driver, never vibrates
6) I wish
7)done
8) does nothing
9) Okay, so I will allow that perhaps there are things going on that all the uninstalling and reinstalling would fix and so I will try it out on a clean computer here in a little bit, but I don't think I'm gonna have any luck. I'll let you know what happens...
1) I am certain you have not unlocked your bootloader via flash tool or by pccompanion.
2) step 3 said charge battery for 24 hours, so you have not done that yet.
3) the remaining steps need to be done after the charging, so please follow the instructions as I have said them
4) the way you keep confusing terms and mixing up words makes me think you have not really done your research before trying to flash your phone. Reading is a great thing, try post 2 of the all in one thread. (there is no such thing as flashboot, that's a weird mixture of two different things, flash mode and fast boot, you need to know the difference between them. Also you can flash roms with a locked bootloader, you need to understand the difference between rooting and unlocking)
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greg,since 23rd February 2013 you can unlock BL via flashtool.You should know that...
Unified Bootloader unlock feature with the new BLU icon. No more unlock plugin.
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http://www.flashtool.net/changelog.html
AFAIK that is just for the devices it could unlock before (2012 and before), not the newer devices that it could never unlock such as ours.
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1) I am certain you have not unlocked your bootloader via flash tool or by pccompanion.
2) step 3 said charge battery for 24 hours, so you have not done that yet.
3) the remaining steps need to be done after the charging, so please follow the instructions as I have said them
4) the way you keep confusing terms and mixing up words makes me think you have not really done your research before trying to flash your phone. Reading is a great thing, try post 2 of the all in one thread. (there is no such thing as flashboot, that's a weird mixture of two different things, flash mode and fast boot, you need to know the difference between them. Also you can flash roms with a locked bootloader, you need to understand the difference between rooting and unlocking)
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1) http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...ts-Flash-Tool-for-Xperia-Devices-315706.shtml - no wait, that just says it's supported by flashtool. I'll keep looking. I could tell you real easy if my bootloader was unlocked or not, but the thing wont turn on Would flashtool have offered me the bootloader unlock button if it didn't support it for my device? It tells me how to get to flashmode erroneously (for MY model, not most) but I figured it just wanted me in flashmode so I put the phone in flashmode. Hell, maybe I never unlocked the bootloader and just tried flashing a stock rom... would flashtool have allowed me to try and flash a non-stock rom with an unlocked bootloader? Would THAT have bricked the phone? I'm gonna go see what the rom I flashed was called now....
2) yeah, as I said, I'm doing that right now. though I took the battery out and charged it, so I thought it might work... even still, it's not been on for 24 hours yet as I writing this, so waiting... is there something that being on the charger for 24hours does besides ensure the battery is charged? Calibration or something? I can assure you the battery is fully charged to peak capacity.
3) will do, though when it doesn't work, do you promise that we can try to talk about QHSUSB_DLOAD? I promise that when it DOES work, I'll happily thank you and admit that even though you haven't quite given me a reason WHY, leaving it plugged in for 24 hours did something more than charge the battery. I know that sounds sarcastic, but I really think there's a chance it could but as I said, I can assure you the battery is charged to peak capacity
4) so I call "flashmode" "flash boot" mode- I am quite well aware of the differences between flashmode and fastboot mode. Figured since the one said flash and the one said fast it was obvious. Man, I did my "research", I read the all-in-one thread, as well as others... I've done this to dozens of phones over the last 3 years and just recently an Xperia Play which acquainted me with many of the idiosyncrasies of the Xperia line, flashboot, pc companion, etc... so when, after 3 years I finally actually ASK a question, I start to get this particular brand of close- mindedness... the way you keep not even trying to actually answer my question makes me think you didn't necessarily read my post before offering up a standard "cookie cutter" recipe which you don't necessarily understand enough to see how it might not necessarily apply. My REAL question was about QHSUSB_DLOAD device requiring a driver since that's the ONLY RESPONSE I CAN GET AT ALL from a phone WITH A FULLY CHARGED BATTERY. (you see, there I wanted to say QHSUSB_DLOAD driver, but that's not quite correct- QHSUSB_DLOAD.dll would be a possible name for the driver, but it's really a device called QHSUSB_DLOAD which does not have a driver. See how I'm taking pains to watch my words so as to not promote confusion.)
Cause you're RIGHT, really; using the proper terms IS important, but can you tell me that you SERIOUSLY didn't know what I meant when I said flashboot mode instead of flashmode? Or that you knew what I meant, but you thought that I didn't ? Did I ever confuse the two terms flashboot and fastboot? "there's no such thing as a flashboot"... what a silly-sounding thing to say... anyway, I never said there was- just that there was a flashboot mode. )Anyway, I do appreciate the help, just not the attitude, y'know?
The attitude was not meant (Nor I hope delivered, maybe its just a style of writing and trying to get to the point quick)
What charging for 24 hours does is to make sure there is some charge in the phone. I am no technical expert here, I am just very good at fault finding and knowing a trick or two that helps. The majority of people on here do not do their own fault finding before asking for help so before I dive in and help people I want to know that something simple has not been overlooked.
Charging for 24 hours has helped about 80% of the people on here who claim a hard/soft brick and they have tried ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to fix it.
Anyway, as for the QHSUSB download, I have had that before and just a perseverance of starting again from scratch and charging worked. (That's why I asked you to wipe all sony/phone/adb etc software from your pc) However, I am sure you are aware that the majority of times this happens you are left with a hard brick. Google gives a lot of results on this about Samsung and HTC phones (All of which offer no solutions) but very little for xperia phones.
All I am trying to do is guide you through some fault finding techniques and then give you some advice on things that have worked for people in the past.
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It is sometimes hard for me to hold the hand of all the users I help. I get between 20-30 PM's a day (Some of which are quite bad mannered because I have not replied within a few hours with a message on how to help them, that does not put me in a good mood) and check the Q&A thread (And general thread for those that cannot post in the correct forum) on a very regular basis in order to help people, but the increase in people not reading and just flashing means I cannot dedicate the time to being a personal assistant to all, you may have see 4 new threads in the Q&A section in the last 24 hours, all made by different users with the same problem, all of which occurred because they were flash happy and tried CM roms without unlocking the bootloader....
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There is still no such thing as flashboot....its called flashmode
In the past some users have called these two modes different things, got them mixed up or even thought they were the same thing, that's why I wanted to know which one you meant.
Also, the flashtool you linked to in point 1 is the official flashtool for Sony that only works on unlocked bootloaders. The flashtool from the first post in the dev section is the original flashtool by Androxyde and Bin4ry (First developed for the x10) and is the one to use for flashing FTF's and the one you used from your original post.
i also have this problem.
my xperia TL won't response anything. Plug in to PC it searching for QHUSB_DLOAD driver.
now, phone still in my drawer for 4 month
gregbradley;45518226]The attitude was not meant (Nor I hope delivered, maybe its just a style of writing and trying to get to the point quick)
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S'okay. Attitude was a big strong for what I meant, but I couldn't think of the right word at the time...
What charging for 24 hours does is to make sure there is some charge in the phone.
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Yeah, that's what I had gathered... I just got out of a bootloop by charging the battery with a programmable peak charger, so I KNOW its got a full charge.
The majority of people on here do not do their own fault finding before asking for help so before I dive in and help people I want to know that something simple has not been overlooked.
Charging for 24 hours has helped about 80% of the people on here who claim a hard/soft brick and they have tried ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to fix it.
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See, right- that's what I always hear everybody say on forurms like this... cause it's TRUE. Most people asking a question generally barely know the proper question to ask and when the DO, they don't think to SEARCH for it. (Although I've always found the Xda forum search EXTREMELY lacking; I'd do a search for a term in the xda search and get nothing so I had to go to google and find the proper xda page through IT. It's much better of late, though)
However, it has been my experience that everything everybody always complains about; people asking before even searching themselves, people asking questions but not providing enough relevant information for the questions to be answered, etc... all these "rules of conduct" are based around the avoidance of WASTED TIME/EFFORT. Which I whole-heartedly agree with. I almost never ask about anything on the forums because it's almost ALWAYS faster to find the answer myself. It's usually out there.. so when I DO post a question, I will give a detailed account of my situation, how I got there and where I'm at... so, with all that everybody says about reading BEFORE you post questions why does it always seem like NO ONE EVER READS MY QUESTIONS before answering? For example, this time I was just like- "wow, dude didn't even read the background, gave me a cookie-cutter set of instructions and didn't even TRY to answer my actual question!"
Anyway, as for the QHSUSB download, I have had that before and just a perseverance of starting again from scratch and charging worked. (That's why I asked you to wipe all sony/phone/adb etc software from your pc)
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For real? You've actually had that before and come out of it? Was it on an xperia device? That means there IS hope beyond JTAG service... galaxys don't have flashmode, know what I'm sayin? I'm thinking maybe if I get the QHSUSB_DLOAD driver qpst or (more likely) qxdm will communicate with the port and I can do something like getting it into flashmode or rebuilding it or just figuring out what happened.
Haven't had much luck finding the drivers, but I haven't really looked that hard yet...
However, I am sure you are aware that the majority of times this happens you are left with a hard brick. Google gives a lot of results on this about Samsung and HTC phones (All of which offer no solutions) but very little for xperia phones.
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Sure am. Yeah, what led me to post was when every time QHSUSB_DLOAD was even mentioned by galaxy owners, the immediate consensus was that this always means you're bricked and require JTAG repair service. As you say, not much regarding xperia, although the ONE thing I saw was someone who said that THEY heard something about getting the driver and being able to parlay that up into getting it back into flashmode or fastboot mode but that's about it. I'm gonna keep on it...
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It is sometimes hard for me to hold the hand of all the users I help. I get between 20-30 PM's a day (Some of which are quite bad mannered because I have not replied within a few hours with a message on how to help them, that does not put me in a good mood) and check the Q&A thread (And general thread for those that cannot post in the correct forum) on a very regular basis in order to help people, but the increase in people not reading and just flashing means I cannot dedicate the time to being a personal assistant to all, you may have see 4 new threads in the Q&A section in the last 24 hours, all made by different users with the same problem, all of which occurred because they were flash happy and tried CM roms without unlocking the bootloader....
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No doubt... it is sometimes hard for me to ask questions because most times I only end up having to bring the person supposed to be helping me up to speed simply to be able to ask the question and have the answer be (usually, but not ALWAYS) "you're guess is as good as mine". I don't mean you, just so you know; I'm speaking of "how it usually goes".
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oh, for sure. flashboot MODE, however- well, there's still no such thing, but at least it's not as blatantly misleading
In the past some users have called these two modes different things, got them mixed up or even thought they were the same thing, that's why I wanted to know which one you meant.
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I was actually talking about fastmode and fastflash mode, but I would expect you'd never heard of THEM before, either?
Also, the flashtool you linked to in point 1 is the official flashtool for Sony that only works on unlocked bootloaders. The flashtool from the first post in the dev section is the original flashtool by Androxyde and Bin4ry (First developed for the x10) and is the one to use for flashing FTF's and the one you used from your original post.
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Yeah, I know; I posted that link thinking it said something other than what it did- like there's gonna be a news article about Sony adding support I edited the post and mentioned that and left the link instead of just deleting it. Dunno why.
All that the Sony flashtool can really do is return you back to stock, right? I think I read something like that...
So anyways, I tried it after charging 24hrs but there was no difference. Gonna look into this Qualcomm HSUSB Download driver- ANYONE know ANYTHING about it?
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For real? You've actually had that before and come out of it? Was it on an xperia device? That means there IS hope beyond JTAG service...
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Yes, but it only happened the once, a fair few years ago before I really had heard of the problem. That's why I can not be quite sure how I fixed it, but it certainly was nothing more than perseverance of trying different things.
I was actually talking about fastmode and fastflash mode, but I would expect you'd never heard of THEM before, either?
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Not for Sony Xperia devices.
So anyways, I tried it after charging 24hrs but there was no difference. Gonna look into this Qualcomm HSUSB Download driver- ANYONE know ANYTHING about it?
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Sorry I could not have been more help. I will continue to dig around and ask others I know that might shed more light on this. I will post here again as when I have something you might appreciate. Good luck.
Ur phone is hardbricked