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hi
last night as usual i turned off my puter left the USB charger hooked up to my 8125 and then turned off my phone. (same process every night) this morning i came in to boot up the puter and turn on the phone, i noticed that the orange "Charging" light was NOT on on the phone. i tried to turn it on and NOTHING!!! i unplugged the USB cable still wont turn on, plugged the phone into the wall (AC) charger this time the orange light came on but the phone still will not come on. it is completely DEAD!!!! just to try something a little different i changed the USB port the cable was plugged into and tried to plug the phone into it again, nothing happend (no charge light, etc) went back to the AC charger and now it wont give the charge light with that charger either HELLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am running the 2.17 ROM with very few programs & plugins and the phone has been ROCK solid maybe a few freezes here and there but nothing to even concern me. phone was working perfect last night 10 ,minutes before i turned it off. at the very least i would like to hard reset it to get my personal info off it before the cingular exchange, but i would feel more comfortable dowwngrading the ROM before the exchange as well. if anybody has any suggestions i am ALL ears.
thanks in advance
Take a deep breath.
Now go get your original charger that came with your 8125 plug it in.
You might to try and hit the soft reset as well.
This is a known problem with the wizard family. If worse comes to worse youw will have to get a new battery.
Breath INNNNNNN breath OUTTTTTT
OK thanks for the reply. so just to be clear you are saying this is a battery issue??? i have tried the soft reset button but nothing happens. the phone is completely dead. how can i verify if it is the battery? the phone will not turn on without a battery?? any help is appreciated
thanks again
You will have to plug your phone into the original AC Charger that came with it for a little bit.
The phone (and even the charge led) won't work until there is a minimal charge to the battery.
I had this happen and simply freaked out for about 10 minutes. Man was I happy once that little LED lit up again!
i had my wizard (8125) battery die on me suddenly. but i let it charge until the light came on, then finally let me power the damned thing on. it only had 2% battery left.
thanks again. very strange it has been plugged in all day with no signs of life. all of a sudden i pressed the ON/OFF one more time and it turned on just like it is supposed to, i am going to leave it on the charger all night but i am a little gun shy on whether to keep it or take the replacement from cingular on monday??? i would like to know why this happened so i can avoid it again in the future.
Some chargers are not up to spec. They may provide enough juice so that the phone says it is getting power but the battery does not charge right.
I have my stock wall charger by my bed and each night it goes on that overnight. Just to be safe
Master K said:
Some chargers are not up to spec. They may provide enough juice so that the phone says it is getting power but the battery does not charge right.
I have my stock wall charger by my bed and each night it goes on that overnight. Just to be safe
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I do the same and have not had a single problem since I started the "Overnight Conditioning".
I used to use a RAZR Moto charger but it is underpowered (only 500mAh).
If you are going to use an off branded charger it has to be a good one and provide 1000mAh. Costs more but worth the investment. I found some nice portable USB Ports (one for the Car and one or AC) that have never failed me and since they are basically just a powered USB port that pushes upto 1000mAh I can use and compatable USB Cable!
Hi all.
I've bought a XDA IIi on eBay, with no cradle (An O2 one from UK, and I live in Spain). I received it with a travel charger, for a SPV E200 model, but with the same connector. The travel charger supplies an output of 4.5-12V and 400 mAh. The XDA did not work, so I supposed I received it with the empty batteries (both main and backup batt), so I put it to charge with the travel charger. After 2-3 hours of charging, it still does not work, does not respond to power button or soft and hard reset attempts. But the XDA shows an orange/red blinking light when charging it. According to the manual, it should be an amber solid led when charging it. The only solid led I've seen is a green one on the charger.
I still don't know if it works. I'm receiving and usb sync/charger cable these days, but I don't know if it will light up the PDA.
I've seen some posts where people talked about much more charging hours, and one post talking about that blinking orange led was caused by a low-power charging, and another where talked about it was a problem with empty backup battery. But after 2-3 hours I think at least the backup battery should be fully charged.
I would like to know if anyone knows what does that blinking led exactly mean, and if I have to charge it 24 hours or more until it responds to power button and does anything else but blinking light. Has it to be a continued charging?.
Thank you.
OK, I've received an usb sync/charge cable and a charger, and after some minutes charging it worked. I've got the next conclusion:
Blinking led means charger not giving power enough. Red led means crytical battery level. (So blinking red means no charging power enough and very low batt). Solid led (no blinking red or amber) means enough charging power. Amber led means no crytical batt level.
I hope this helps anyone who got the same problems I got too.
Folks,
I was flashing CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE and the battery went down. The flashing procedure stopped at 85%.
After this incident I could not turn on the phone again. It spent all night recharging and nothing.
What should I do?
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Tmobile MDA VARIO
IPL 1.05
SPL 3.08
Wizard Love Rom
Did you charge it over night with the wall charger or with the sync cable? If Windows doesn't recognize the phone, as it might not since you were in the middle of flashing, it may not provide a charge through the sync cable. You might have just thought you were charging it but you weren't.
I was charging with the wall charger, and nothing happens at all (no lights, no bootloader)
Did I brick the phone?
Is there a way to brick the phone while flashing this rom and losing battery power or it's not bricked?
Try pulling your battery for 10 min or so and then put it back in. Phones don't usually get bricked by getting interupted in the middle of a flash. If they did, there would be a lot more people around here with bricked phones because I've see a whole lot of threads in here with people saying they got interupted in the middle of a flash. I don't think you should start worrying about that quite yet.
So I'm taking off the battery for a while, let's see what happens...
I can't see any signal even if the battery is out, and the wall charger is plugged anyway.
I've pull off the battery for about 20 minutes (battery was in refrigerator at this time) and nothing happened.
Is there anything else to do?
(ps:I'm not using the original wall charger...)
I've pull off the battery for about 20 minutes (battery was in refrigerator at this time) and nothing happened.
Is there anything else to do?
(ps:I'm not using the original wall charger...)
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Now I'm trying to do this below:
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OK here's the solution.
First of all, be aware that the MDA can NOT charge unless the OS is fully loaded. If for whatever reason your battery gets fully depleted, you have to do the following (it involves ruining a 5 $ cable and doing some surgery):
- first, go out and buy a new USB-to-mini-USB cable, unless you have 2 already (or one and the original charger)
- take out the battery
- take the USB-to-mini-USB cable, cut off the mini-USB plug and expose the four wires
- strip the red (+) and black (-) wire and twist the copper ends of each wire
- now CAREFULLY attach the right wire to the right connector on the battery (so + on + and - on -) and tape it there so it stays firmly on
- put the cable in your (running) PC or put the charger in the wall socket
- let the battery recharge for an hour or so, then put it back in the Wizard and reboot
- now when it is fully rebooted, you need the second cable to charge your Wizard completely, the way you're used to.
Worked for me! I've kept the ruined cable, just in case it happens again.
Good luck!
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Hope that works/worked for you, let me know if it does.
I made the cable, tried to recharge battery for 1 hour nd nothing again...no lights, no signs...still with a dead phone...
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Do you have access to a volt meter? If you do, check and see if you get any voltage on the battery at all. Maybe your battery is shot. Theres no reason for your phone to be bricked so I wouldn't give up just yet.
Theres also another trick that someone else having a similar problem in another post reminded me of to jump start your battery. It involves a 9v battery and a couple of wires (bread ties will work if you don't have any wires laying around). It's pretty much the same thing as the charger thing to an extent. You take the 9v battery and attach the wires(bread ties) from the - to the minus on your cell battery and + to + but only do that for 10 seconds and then remove them, wait 30 seconds and then do it again for 10 seconds. Repeat that 10 times and then put the battery back in to the phone and connect the charger. If that doesn't jump start it your battery might be gone for good.
Thanx, I'll try it too.
Maybe tomorrow I'll have access to a second battery with a friend of mine.(fully charged and working battery)
Do you know why is the phone not showing any lights? Is there any explanation (for the case it's not bricked)?
If the battery is completely drained it won't take a charge (this is actually a well known issue with wizards) the charge lights won't come on because they are actually taking their current straight from the battery.
if you not using charger that came with phone thats probably your issue charger that came with phone is 1amp most secondary chargers are 500ma
I think the phone is really dead now.
I´ve put my friend´s battery in my phone and nothing happened. (no signs)
My battery worked with my friend's phone too...
What are the solutions now? A new motherboard?
vdalesandro said:
I think the phone is really dead now.
I´ve put my friend´s battery in my phone and nothing happened. (no signs)
My battery worked with my friend's phone too...
What are the solutions now? A new motherboard?
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I've just reread your initial post and i think you're both guilty and unlucky. Guilty for acknowledging the RUU warning about using a charged battery (check boxes) and unlucky because the flashing might have stopped while writing to the IPL zone.
So i do think that new board is the only solution here. Sorry.
Where are cheap boards for sale?
hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
2.
A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.
ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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I had a problem where the Tilt wouldn't charge until I deleted a waiting voicemail and a few unread emails. This was on a cooker ROM but check it out.
Hope that helps.
check the connector on the phone and see if it is broken I remember on my first two tilts it broke and I had to get new ones (warranty) and then the third ones broke but i used a small screwdriver and put the pieces together again.
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ok i bought a new battery because my last battery drained and wouldnt charge back up. and now wen i charge my phone it just drains as if it wasnt plugged into the wall charger.
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Don't throw away your old battery because it's probably not to blame and you can then have a spare. How does it go if you attempt to charge via a USB cable connected to the PC? Will it still connect via Activesync over USB? Do you still get the orange light on the left of the phones earpiece when you're attempting to charge it? These are some steps that'll help to narrow down whats going on - let us know.
Had this problem using on of the original M2d (roms).
Now im running hyper dragon w/ m2d cab and all is well. Ive also experience this from a bent pin. (dont drink coffee for 1 day prior to attempting mini-usb surgery!)
umm.. when connected to the charger the orange light is on i bought a charger on ebay and it charges the batteries up so now i have two batteries using one as a spare when one is charging. the usb doesnt seem to be broken. a lil background i spilled water on it a lil while back but the phone works fine i have a feeling that that may have something to do with not being able to charge but why would the light switch over to orange then when i charge it. sorry if this seems really noooob
My Kaiser failed recently with not being able to charge. Most of the time it didn't charge but if you wiggled the connector around the charge light came on, then went off moments later as the connection/wire combo moved. I contacted Orange and they sent me a replacement. No problems since.
Most of the time my PDA goes into a charging cradle but when that fails I use the car charger/other mains lead.
As for being a Noob, we all have to start somewhere
My Kaiser failed recently with not being able to charge. Most of the time it didn't charge but if you wiggled the connector around the charge light came on, then went off moments later as the connection/wire combo moved. I contacted Orange and they sent me a replacement. No problems since.
Most of the time my PDA goes into a charging cradle but when that fails I use the car charger/other mains lead.
As for being a Noob, we all have to start somewhere
My fix
Stuck my stylus in there by mistake and could only cvharge if i wrapped the cord around.
I recently bought a rechargable battery pack for my daughters wii, and it came with two usb cords (from target $26.99), and one day i plugged my tilt in and it charged no problem, been using this ever since (November to now).
Cnn.cn sells the usb part of the phone, Im just to afraid to solder the old one off and the new one on. Might try it one day!
I have the same problem currently. I plug in and the light comes on, but the battery does not charge. I'm waiting to borrow a friends battery so I can reflash to standard to send back to HTC!
I got my phone wet last week and I am having the exact same problem. I have a battery charger and 2 batteries so I am doing the same thing as you but it's getting a bit old.
I dont have a warrany so I'm hoping to find some good ideas here as to what (if anything) can be tried.
Update:
I decided to crack open the case tonight and take a look inside. Unfortunately I couldn't find any youtube video tutorials so I had to just go carefully and not force anything. I ended up only having to take apart the motherboard side (keyboard side). Once I had the phone completely apart, I taped a known good battery in and connected the charger. A physical inspection passed, no burns or shorts that I could see and no funny smells. After about 30 minutes of charge time, I unplugged the charger and the battery power had increased 10%. Sweet.
It turns out that the battery I had in the phone when it got wet may have been ruined though. That one will not charge even in a standalone battery charger. That's allot cheaper than the alternatives I was thinking about though. The Fuze was really calling my name today for a couple hours. Saving $500 though feels pretty good.