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EVO 2.2 Sense ROM Port?

Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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winterstormhaku said:
Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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not gonna happen, we are waiting for another phone comparable with the hero to get it then it can be ported. on another note rumor has it sprint will be releasing another hero update in october. keep your fingers crossed that it could be froyo.

This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...

Vandelay007 said:
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.

bray424 said:
Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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2 months ago I was saying the same thing. Been running CM6 since day 1 and got sense deprived for 2 days. Flashed CM6 back and found some alternatives to the sense look. Now I could care less about sense and any official update. IMHO, my phone runs better, faster and actually looks better without sense. The only good thing that would come of it would be to fix the very few issues that are left in the froyo ROM.

Vandelay007 said:
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.

fixxxer2008 said:
lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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I'm just so new that I wasn't even thinking about having the best of both worlds...I would def try that out if it becomes reality
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...

I would only start using a 2.2 Sense ROM if it had the speed and options like CyanogenMOD has... which will never happen. So I guess I'll never use a 2.2 Sense ROM.

Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.

I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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cp0020 said:
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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awe gee thanks, love you too.
and you got proof that it would run better?

Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Well...alrighty then. It sounds like you had a set up issue on your phone because out of my 4 Hero's..the way mine is set up now it flat out runs the stock sense rom's that I have here and has more gas at the end of the day, and everything turned on that I have to have turned off on the stock roms if I expect more than 8 hours of battery life. I haven't tried either of the other 2 roms you are talking about yet,but I might just to see if your just blowing smoke which I believe you are..since you still haven't validated any of you facts opinions yet..
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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I agree that zenrom and nfx-hero are light-years faster than the stock 2.1 sense rom. I'd even venture to say that its as fast as 2.1 sense can get, its pretty damn snappy. But I hope when you say its faster than CM6, you aren't talking something quantitatively ... because frankly, the statistics don't back up that claim.
And you're right, regular AOSP is plain and boring. The reason it's like that is to start with as clean a slate as possible, and let you theme and mod to the nth degree. You can do the same thing with Sense, but not as easily, and it will never be as lightweight because of the extra HTC apps. Some phones can handle the extra weight, some can't. I guess it comes down to if you want to work to make your Hero uniquely beautiful, or commonly pallatable.
I respect your own opinion (my wife is a Sense lover, so I have this debate constantly, and respect the other side), however recognize the difference between facts and opinions, please. If you want to provide subjective "facts", please call them what FOX News calls them: truth.

I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.

Even though Sense looks great compared to vanilla AOSP, visual appeal is not what I look for when comparing the two ROMS. I love how lightweight AOSP is, but wish it came with some of the awesome HTC widgets that are exlusive to Sense. To this day, the HTC keyboard, weather and calendar widgets, and a few other items have no equal in the FREE apps section of the Market.

smolck said:
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
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I agree. I tried CM6 and barely noticed a speed difference. I noticed several features and customizations, but nothing special that I can't do on my 2.1 sense rom. Actually, froyo isn't even all that to me. The only thing I want from Froyo is the marking/vending, but other than that there's nothing special like everyone says. BTW, I'm also using Aloysius 2.1 with my own theme I created.
This is also my 2 cents. And I am in no way saying that Aloysius is better than CM6, just that 2.1 sense roms have more of what I prefer.

unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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Obviously you've never used Zen-ROM before. It is MUCH much faster than CM6 ever was for me. I've had zero lag and fantastic battery life.

Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Yeah, because no one else in your house is using a rooted Hero with something like Zen-ROM on it..
I charged my phone today around 6 in the evening to 100%. It's now 5am and I STILL have over 70% battery life left, after using it pretty heavily with GMaps. CM6 never made it that far for me.

[Q] Best Rom?

Hey guys, I was just looking for your opinion on the best, and most stable rom for the incredible s, currently I'm running miui 1.9.9 and am pretty pleased with it, Im just wondering what else is out there, I tried htc bliss beta 2 sense 3.5 because i missed sense but it had camera issues so Im wondering what your opinion is and what youve tried

android revolution hd is the best hands down imo

"Best rom" is very subjective, as I'm sure a few other people will point out. I for one am using CyanogenMod and can say that I am very happy with it and don't plan to change any time soon. If you want to find more roms you can go take a look at the Development section of the Incredible S forums, there you will find threads concerning roms that you can try out for your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1028
Hope you'll find something that suites you,
Cheers!

I agree with scoob on this one rev HD deff is one of the most stable ROMs out there. Cyanogen is very stable as well however I can't get over not having sense. I'd choose from those two both awesome HD is super fast while cyanogen is slightly slower yet is highly customizable and does not include sense.

well, as pointed out , the choice is very personal.
it depends on your preferences as there are some differences in most of the major roms.
so far i've tried ARHD, CM7, MIUI & Virtuous unity.
CM7 is quite good if you are interested in having a non-sense rom but the functionality, stability is top notch. CM7 has set a standard not just for stand alone developers but for corporate production as well.
ARHD is a very popular rom and most people using it will swear by it.
it is sense based, and it will feel like a charged up stock rom.
very professional as well.
MIUI is what i used the longest & i must admit it is a brilliant rom in the fact that it stands out in appearance & customization.
every app and every part of the system is beautified and it feels like a totally different phone. if you are looking to have a 'different' yet amazing phone, MIUI is the way to go.
but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
And of course it has no app drawer, works like the iphone.
this can be handled by the wonderful app created by a member here called alt drawer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154299
i feel this is a must for MIUI.
finally, using VU at the moment and i feel it is a perfect blend of sense components and that little something extra.
looks, feels and works amazingly well, minimal bugs and almost feels like the perfect rom again...
i did however run into a few loop boots recently, but i think that can be worked on.
that's my personal opinion on all the roms...
and i think it would be a good opportunity to give a heartfelt 'thank you' for all the developers here working so damn hard on providing world class roms for us.
Thank you guys, we all do silently thank and appreciate all your efforts!

letmedanz said:
but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
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Inc S is officially supported at miui.us. The two things I miss with MIUI is SRS and handsfree mic. Other than that, its the best lightweight rom available for Inc S atm.
MIUI with Tiamat Kernel works very well.

If you like Sense 2.1 or 3.0 i prefer ARHD.
If you don't like Sense i would go for CyanogenMod 7 Nightly #68.
But that's just what i think ;-)

letmedanz said:
well, as pointed out , the choice is very personal.
it depends on your preferences as there are some differences in most of the major roms.
so far i've tried ARHD, CM7, MIUI & Virtuous unity.
CM7 is quite good if you are interested in having a non-sense rom but the functionality, stability is top notch. CM7 has set a standard not just for stand alone developers but for corporate production as well.
ARHD is a very popular rom and most people using it will swear by it.
it is sense based, and it will feel like a charged up stock rom.
very professional as well.
MIUI is what i used the longest & i must admit it is a brilliant rom in the fact that it stands out in appearance & customization.
every app and every part of the system is beautified and it feels like a totally different phone. if you are looking to have a 'different' yet amazing phone, MIUI is the way to go.
but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
And of course it has no app drawer, works like the iphone.
this can be handled by the wonderful app created by a member here called alt drawer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154299
i feel this is a must for MIUI.
finally, using VU at the moment and i feel it is a perfect blend of sense components and that little something extra.
looks, feels and works amazingly well, minimal bugs and almost feels like the perfect rom again...
i did however run into a few loop boots recently, but i think that can be worked on.
that's my personal opinion on all the roms...
and i think it would be a good opportunity to give a heartfelt 'thank you' for all the developers here working so damn hard on providing world class roms for us.
Thank you guys, we all do silently thank and appreciate all your efforts!
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really nice explanation mate....

jpkbeddu said:
Inc S is officially supported at miui.us. .
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a community supported rom is not quite the same as developer support
Quoting them:
This is a community support ROM only!
The developers do not provide much support for this ROM on these forums
Support is mostly provided on forums.MIUI.us
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183739

i've been a user of ARHD, it's the most popular if i may say and developer is very responsive. i haven't gotten to try the other ROMs on an extended time but i'm pretty sold to the ARHD

I'm using CyanogenMod 7 and love it - very fast, good battery (after clearing battery data), and lightweight.
However it is the first ROM I've flashed and while I'm very happy with it, I'll still try others just to see what there is. But if you haven't tried it, give it a shot -you can easily download straight from the ROM manager app

i like revolution hd,but its sense 2.1

Im using arhd and it improves the batt life too. My first rom i flashed on my incredible s.

I'm using virtuos rom v2.37 by far the best rom with sense 3.0!! I've tried them all but the virtuos rom runs very smooth and no fc's.
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I m using ARHD 1.1.7 with sense 3.0 patch. everything works fine. however the guy who don't like sense UI must b use CM7. it comes with a lot of customization. miui also a good one. but i dun like it , lack of appdrawer. look like with iphone.

Zoeriva said:
I'm using virtuos rom v2.37 by far the best rom with sense 3.0!! I've tried them all but the virtuos rom runs very smooth and no fc's.
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+1 for that .. very good Rom..
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Android Revolution HD-Incredible S 1.1.7 from Mike

I'm using ARHD 1.1.7, fast and very, very stable. Didn't use any other custom ROM, though.

im using ARHD 1.1.7 too... u make any adjustments in the system?

i dont understand, why so many ics roms based on an alpha?[rant]

already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
/rant

It is no different than the numerous GB/CM based ROMs. Who cares?
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!

I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.

xjreyes said:
I think that He ( OP ) won't be happy until they say Beta.. its alpha for a reason. so many bugs much more than beta. just sit happy with GB and give it time. I rushed it and lost the ability for Google Wallet, nothing can fix what went wrong with my phone.
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What happened? I had wallet set up and ready to go, tried it at rite aid and wouldn't go through...
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these people couldn't be taking part in a hobby for them, could they be just trying to learn the ins and outs of android, heck they couldn't even be kids learning to code and all are getting excited to show off what they complied.
Last time I checked you were not required to flash every rom in the Dev section. So lets take a step back I don't like miui nothing wrong with it but should I be complied to start a thread asking why we have topics about when I don't care for it.

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You said it....
Chill out. We have to get AOSP working bug-free in the first place, then they'll start looking different. Even CM9 doesnt have any CMsettings or anything special. We're sorry that something that we're beating Google at (ICS release for NS) currently is not to your standards.
In due time.....in due time.

I see where the OP is coming from, but I disagree. The fact that the devs work hard to bring the OS to our devices is pretty appreciated. They pretty much do Google's work for free by modifying the code.
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icecoldbong said:
already about 5 ics roms not counting the cm9 alpha, why??
they all have the same bugs
they all have the same things working
super ics kangorama?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360567
koush's + launcher pro added..
nexus mv ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
koush's + glados kernel + v6 supercharger
ultimate ics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363765
koush's + some extra wall papers + file explorer
all these things are just a completely alpha ics build with some hacks thrown in.. why?? why not just make a post in the ics thread (either by kwiboo or koush) saying "hey guys use launcher pro if you feel its buggy" or "here is link to glados kernel" instead of making "New ultimate sweet fast ICS rom" when all you are doing is downloading one of the actual source built ics roms and opening it with 7zip and dropping in a new boot.img in there then asking for donations :/
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you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety

simms22 said:
you missed these two.. http://goo.gl/bdy4w and http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
i can probably find you a few more if you would like more variety
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lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name

icecoldbong said:
lol im not mad that they are all buggy, im mad that people are "deving" with a buggy base and just adding to it. why not be a little patient, if you cant create it/build it from source, wait til the base you will be using to 7zip and copypaste into your rom becomes stable. dont use an alpha build to promote your name
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I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
To put things in perspective, ICS development for the Nexus S is light years ahead of all other devices. For that reason alone, we should be grateful. Others are still struggling to either boot, or get somewhere AFTER boot.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.

nickmv said:
I don't think you quite understand how it works currently. There is no buggy base. They're attempting to adapt AOSP source code to compile and execute correctly on the Nexus S. This is way more complicated than you think. Almost all "bugs" you see are byproducts of tinkering with configurations, compile-ations, etc, in an attempt to get it working properly.
If you don't like the way it's done, then wait for the official ROM. You have a choice, after all.
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yes, two roms are getting built from the source on xda; kwiboo and koush. then all the others.
both kwiboo and koush thread is full of bug reports of people using a different rom like brainmaster, ultimate ics, kangorama ics, etc.
all this does is add confusion from the rom chef adding things to the original rom developers work
what im suggesting/ranting is that if a rom chefs should be a little more patient in making more spinoff roms that don't really add much besides to confusion for noob users

Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.

nickmv said:
Your argument makes a LOT more sense now. I agree, if people are posting bugs in Koush/Kwiboo sections when running brainmaster or other tweaked versions, then that's bad.
Your original argument didn't really point this out.
Not much can be done about that, aside from aggressive moderation. Tweakers will be tweakers.
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Most of the bugs posted are not even valid. One in particular is known issue even on the GNexus.
The biggest issue I see is code optimization at this point.
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
Bounced off a tower to a forum near you!

RonnieRuff said:
One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS. I will be much faster on dual core hardware
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This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.

Eclair~ said:
This is one thing that has been bothering me as well. Every single one of these ROMs are not truly as smooth as Gingerbread. In no way do they even reach the fluidity found in Gingerbread ROMS. The hardware acceleration helps, but even then you can still feel the difference between the two Android releases. I have yet to hear a proper explanation as to why this is happening and I was hoping that the fix for this would be Google releasing the official Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Is it is code optimization as you say? Or is there more to it than that? I want to believe that hardware doesn't play a significant role here.
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Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Agree 100% no released rom before ota is even out is worth running.. I ran koush or w/e and it worked but felt like I was holding a brick.. ruff! Brainmasters straight looks like android donut.. but so does cyanogens.. no disrespect to any of the above.. but htcclay is god..
Edit: wasn't brainmaster it was some one else.. sorry
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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.

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Strange, I've found that Koush's latest (CM9 Alpha 11) is plenty fast, not significantly slower than GB. Definitely Kwiboo v2 was slow as molasses, but then again it came out days ago (a long time when it comes to how fast things are moving). BM v5 is pretty fast but buggy. Also, it seems that adding franco kernel to any of these also speeds things up significantly, but I haven't tried it with CM9 Alpha 11 yet.
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I found kwiboo's to be a lot more stable than koush's. although koush's had more functionality.. my bluetooth didnt work, and i got many errors.

Understand that we are using old binaries. ICS will run just as good as gingerbread, if not, better. These will make a world of difference

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One thing I think no one has mentioned is ICS may never be super fast on the NS.
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I'd kind of disagree with this. In its current early state here on the NS, I've gotten it running butter smooth and highly responsive, on a 1.1 OC/UV kernel. This is WITHOUT tweaks to filesystem, etc. If certain apps would just display properly when GPU Rendering is turned on, and some battery stuff worked out, I'd be 100% content.
Now granted, I've seen it running on the SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus and they're clearly speedier, but in my experience, my apps run just as fast as they did in GB.
On a side note....wanna see slow? It's been ported to the T-Mobile G1! HA! The first, original android phone!

I agree. there was actually a recent article on android police about this. There is no problem with people making their own roms but don't clog up the development section with "roms" that really all they do is bundle some easily downloadable market apps and some wallpapers and call it a new rom.
What the SGS2 xda forum actually did was split the dev section into 2 . One for original dev work and one for spin offs.

Fastest and most stable rom?

Been looking around and asking around a lot and most people say that and odexed ota rom (with oc) is fastest. What do you think?
I use kgp nexroid 6.1 oc 1190mhz and that's fast as hell, imho.
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Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

Yeah, but isn't ch33kybutts OxygeN1mod a bit more stable and faster, being essentially the same as CM7? I know its AOSP, but a lot of CM7 things are integrated in that ROM. You should consider trying that out.

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Anybody not on the Latest CM7 Kang is simply insane imo. You hear people with various devices, reporting different levels of success with Cyanogenmod ROMS. That may be true, there may be devices that didn't 'take' so well with that particular Custom ROM!
If there's ever been a device that does enjoy a CM ROM, it's the Nexus One. It's a marriage made in heaven! From day one of owning this phone i had nothing but problems on 'Stock' ROMS. Coming from a Windows Mobile phone, it made my first impressions of Android less than stellar, i can tell you!
I jumped aboard the Cyanogen train the second the CM7 Nightlies began. I've flashed almost every single Nightly since then, without having to once wipe 'Data', without any major issues.. and after at least a hundred Nightlies flashed since then my N1 is as good as anyone could hope it would be!
You couldn't pay me to part with my N1 for anything else on the market right now. You couldn't force me, for love nor money, to use a Galaxy Nexus, or any ICS build right now!
As long as the hardware holds up, i'll be using this phone for years to come. With any luck they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
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I didn't even want this phone that much. I simply bought it as I couldn't afford anything better. This does the job well, though I would not say no to a newer and better device.
The other day, I flashed MIUI, and I have made a decision. I will never return to Cyanogenmod 7 again, ever. I simply love the fastness and smoothness of the latest MIUI. Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.

ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.

[ROM] NEXUS N1 Passion MIUI

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ICS is highly overrated. Had a chance to play with it today, and besides HW acceleration which can't be a bad thing, all the visual changes were as much to my dislike as Gingerbread was. Never got used to those (having Sense 3 on my MT4G, don't need to).
In any case, there's some assumption that stock ROM runs faster, because it's odexed (which means, that the odex files are already there and don't need to be re-created). This is only true for the first run, for the rest it doesn't matter - it only saves space, not having to have all the odexed files on /data.
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Your point being?
I won't go to a stock rom as I find custom roms the way to go. I run MIUI and I love it very much. A beautiful and fast rom (I use the fresh on fridays MIUI on miui.us and not that other one)

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Your point being?
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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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Though, I will easily give MIUI up when there's a good-for-everyday-use CM9/ICS ROM out there.
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.

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You started the thread by stating that to your understanding, odexed ROMs are faster. I saw that you moved to custom ROMs, and wanted to reassure you that they're just as fast, and non-odexed doesn't mean slower.
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I don't even know what difference odexed and not does as I don't even know the meaning of the word. Secondly, my phone was sent to me pre-flashed with CM7.1.0 stable so I have never used stock software with this phone
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This is the other point I was trying to make, ICS might not be worth enough to give up MIUI for it.
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I think you're right. I've seen videos of what ICS looks like and to me it looks like it's way overhyped. I really like MIUI and what it looks and feels like and to me it's fast and does what I want and gets me through a day's use with the current overclock.
I just want a rom that I can live with, that's fast and smooth. To this date, I haven't found a rom to do just that except MIUI.

Confused why?

If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....

I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!

gonowhere said:
I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.

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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!

Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.

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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.

To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.

also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm

I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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