Help on OS version and Data Connection issue - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have given my HTC Touch Dimaond 2 hand et to HTC service center for service the following problems in the handset, since it is still covers the warranty period
1. Black circle dots in the screen suddenly
2. Phone is getting hanged frequetly..while incoming call, it's keep on ringing and not responding and need to soft reset/remove the battery.
Before I given to them, my phone is upgraded with Offical HTC Windows 6.5 ROM (while I bought , i think it has been installed with OS 6.1) and they have told they will wipe out all the data during the service and I too agreed.
I have got my handset serviced and noticed all the screen look and feel are different and below is the Software information. I want to know what is the current OS it's using. Whether it's latest version?
I like some of the settings in the current ROM and not sure whether it's latest one or need to upgrade it to the newer version. And i want to go with the offical HTC Latest ROM version and also should consider the newer ROM version should not have any performance issue for this model.
Since my mother is using this phone, she might not be in position to tweak it frequenlty.
I want to know what current OS version has been installed? Is there any where I can able to see it?
Another doubt:
I have seen lot of threads here on disabling the data connection and using the WIFI alone. Last month, I have turned on my WIFI connection and browsed a lot and even downloaded with my WIFI, but not sure when this data connection is automatically turned on and I had to pay a $50 for 10 MB..
After that I afarid to browse even with WIFI. IS there any way to make sure completely turn off the data connection and use WIFI always? even I used TD2 tools, but not sue how this data connection is turning on..
OS Version : 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86)
Manila Version : 2.5.20113030.0
ROM Version : 2.53.707.4 (7652) WWE
ROM Date : 01/29/2010
Radio Version : 4.49.25.91
Protocol Version : 61.44etc.25.35U
CPU : QUALCOMM(R) 7200A
Speed : 528 Mhz
RAM Size : 288 MB
Flash Size : 521 MB
Data Bus : 32 bits
Storage Size : 262.78 MB
Display resolution : 480* 800
Colors : 65536
Bluettoth version : 2.0/2.0+EDR

You are on the latest OS version.

thanks bruce. Is it Windows 6.5 or 6.5.5?
And in this ROM, I couldn't able to see the list of running/active programs.
In my previous ROM (as in signature), in the top right corner I have arrow and it will show the list of active running applications to switch. But I am not having this in thies latest OS. Whether the options are changes or any other way we can switch to different running application. In task manager, I can ableto see all the running application, but I can't switch over to other applications.

michealjohn said:
thanks bruce. Is it Windows 6.5 or 6.5.5?
And in this ROM, I couldn't able to see the list of running/active programs.
In my previous ROM (as in signature), in the top right corner I have arrow and it will show the list of active running applications to switch. But I am not having this in thies latest OS. Whether the options are changes or any other way we can switch to different running application. In task manager, I can ableto see all the running application, but I can't switch over to other applications.
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If your start menu is on the bottom, its 6.5.3
MS removed the Task Manager accessible from the top right corner in 6.5.3.
I suggest using Quick Menu, which will place an expandable Windows like start menu accessible from the top left corner (and hardware key if you map it) and lists your running programs to switch or kill.

Bruce,
My Start button is at top left croner.
I suggest using Quick Menu, which will place an expandable Windows like start menu accessible from the top left corner (and hardware key if you map it) and lists your running programs to switch or kill.
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How to do map it? What program I need to select in the quick menu?
I have another doubt, my battery is very hot even I browse for short while.
Before I don't have this issue. Whether the OS upgrade will cause this issue?
Or I need to change the battery?

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[APP][May 5 2009][WWE] TouchFlo Detacher 1.0.1.1 FINAL - Another TF3D/Today switcher!

I have ceased development of this project because I don't use TouchFlo 3D anymore. All source code is available. If anybody wants to take over the CodePlex project, just PM me and it's yours for the taking!
Overview
TouchFlo Detacher is yet another way to simultaneously have TouchFlo 3D / 2D and the regular Today screen. Previous excellent solutions include SecondToday and ManilaControl.
CodePlex
TFD development is hosted at Microsoft CodePlex! http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
Tip Jar
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Description
So what makes mine different? Well, my app is actually very similar to MastSogo's ManilaControl. The main difference is that I plan to actively develop it now for a while, whereas ManilaControl has been a bit frozen in development for a few months. Mine is also open source, licensed under the Ms-RL. Mine is on CodePlex, so download speeds should be much better than the average rapidshare link. Finally, mine is in English and not Spanish. Other than that, it's just another solution for the same problem!
I must give a hearty thank you and bow to MastSogo for inspiring me to work on this.
I believe I am using a similar technical solution to his, but mine is written from the ground up, so it shares no source code with his!
See it in action on the YouTubes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk0xWm8PMGQ
Current features
- Free up your Today screen by hosting Manila outside of the Today screen! TouchFlo Detacher can launch/show/hide/close Manila independent of any other Today screen settings. Now you can have your TouchFlo cake and eat it too! The most obvious use is to assign a soft key to toggle between seeing TouchFlo and seeing the regular Today screen.
- Supports TouchFlo 3D and TouchFlo 2D.
- NO ANNOYING SPLASH SCREEN when application launches.
- Configuration application allows advanced customizations so that this utility can be used with non-standard or untested Manila versions.
- Configuration application can clean out the ManilaActivateToday.exe from the notification queue. (That app can interefere with TouchFlo Detacher's operation.)
- Shortcuts to start/show Manila, hide Manila, toggle (show/hide) Manila, and close Manila. These can be assigned to hardware buttons (if your device has them), to virtual hardware buttons through the use of 3rd party applications such as AE Button Plus, or to gestures using 3rd party applications such as FTouchSL.
- Configuration application can customize the softkeys in both Today and TouchFlo's Home tab. You can use it to not only assign TouchFlo Detacher operations (show/hide/close), but any other application on your device.
- Launch an application after TouchFlo launches... Such as SSMaHo. It's easy. Create an attach link in SSMaHo. Put the attach link in the config: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\SSMaHo Attach.lnk
Known Issues
- On the Touch HD, the home hardware button does not return to the Manila "home" tab. This does not happen on the Pro or Diamond. Workaround: none. Scheduled fix: unknown.
- Sometimes the clock on the TouchFlo home page will stop and go out of sync with the real time. Workaround: hide and then show manila. I may need to create a scheduled task that can do that as an automatic workaround once per day for those experiencing the problem. Scheduled fix: unknown.
History
1.0.1.1 STABLE FINAL - Fixed bugs in 1.0.1.0; Added ability to launch an app after TouhcFlo launches.
1.0.1.0 BETA - The first version of TFD that no longer requires a pseudo-service. All functionality should be identical to 1.0.0.5, otherwise.
1.0.0.5 STABLE - The "hide then show" workaround wasn't working in some instances, so I put extra detection code in to determine the current state of Manila before issuing the hide/show commands. If this doesn't work, I can add customizable delays. Also added AppToDate support!
1.0.0.4 STABLE - First release I am considering stable! It is identical to the very tested 1.0.0.3 except for one new feature. When you start the TFDService you can now optionally have it hide and then show Manila immediately. It does this VERY quickly, so you may not even notice it happening on screen. This is done so as a workaround some users are having where they cannot access the phone until Manila is hidden at least one time. Very odd behavior. It is working perfectly in my tests, but please let me know if this workaround doesn't work for you.
1.0.0.3 Beta - TF2D support I think is finally complete! Please test! New layout for TFDConfig. Standard and advanced options are now in separate tabs. More advanced options for alternate Manila configurations. Fixed bug in config where a crash could happen when you tried removing ActivateManilaToday. Toggle TouchFlo command is now available (note: this toggles show/hide, NOT show/close).
1.0.0.2 Beta - New language-neutral detection of Manila process and window handles (no longer need to know titles!). Fixed (hopefully) bug where the softkeys sometimes didn't hide correctly. Window class "search" is no longer case sensitive. Optional delay when starting Manila at system start-up (attempting to work around issue where Manila won't launch on startup).
1.0.0.1 Beta - Confg app can now start the service. The service has better error reporting. Config app can remove TouchFlo today item. No need to soft reset! TouchFlo 2D support (maybe - I'm trying!). Some crappy icons ;-) ... Service detects if TouchFlo Today item is enabled. Link to start and stop the service. Fixed installer bugs. Bug fixes!
1.0.0.0 Beta (aka BETA1) - Initial release
Download
CAB Installer: http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx
Source Code: http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Installation
As explained on CodePlex...
1. Install the CAB
2. Run TFDConfig (important!!!)
3. Enable all the standard Today Items you want to use
4. Do not re-enable TouchFlo in the Today items (if you do, it will undo all your other Today plugins and your device might freeze up, requiring a soft reset)
Requirements
Windows Mobile 6.1
.Net Compact Framework 2.0
A device that runs TouchFlo3D (Manila) or TouchFlo2D (Manila2D).
FAQ
FAQ
Q: I uninstalled TouchFlo Detacher but TouchFlo did not come back!
A: Changes made with TFDConfig will not automatically be undone when you uninstall TouchFlo Detacher. To get TouchFlo back, go into your phone's settings. Go into Today. Go to the "items" tab. Check in "TouchFlo 3D" (or 2D or whatever). Exit. TouchFlo will be back.
Q: I uninstalled TouchFlo Detacher but my softkeys did not go back to the way they were before!
A: Changes made with TFDConfig will not automatically be undone when you uninstall TouchFlo Detacher. Do not worry! Fixing this is very simple. Before uninstalling TFD, it's recommended you run TFDConfig one more time and reassign the softkeys to whatever you want them to be. For TouchFlo's softkeys, all you have to do is set them both to empty (as in, nothing) to get the default softkeys (phone/programs). For Today's softkeys, you can assign them to whatever you want -- calendar, phone, contacts, your choice!
If you have already uninstalled TFD, you will need to use a registry editor to reset the values. Here are the relevant keys:
Today left softkey:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\112
[Default] = Text on softkey
Open = Path to program to run
Today right softkey:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\113
[Default] = Text on softkey
Open = Path to program to run
TouchFlo 3D left softkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila
HomeLSKText = Text on softkey
HomeLSKPath = Path to program to run (or blank for default)
TouchFlo 3D right softkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila
HomeRSKText = Text on softkey
HomeRSKPath = Path to program to run (or blank for default)
TouchFlo 2D left softkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Home
SK1 = Text on softkey
SK1Cmd = Path to program to run (or blank for default)
TouchFlo 2D right softkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Home
SK2 = Text on softkey
SK2Cmd = Path to program to run (or blank for default)
Hi,
Is this a Manila3D only switcher or will it also work with Manila2D? I have been using Mastsogo's until now, but the lack of support is a bit worrying.
motisu said:
Hi,
Is this a Manila3D only switcher or will it also work with Manila2D? I have been using Mastsogo's until now, but the lack of support is a bit worrying.
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It may work with TF2D, I just have no way to test it since my device is TF3D. In the config, you can specify the location of the Manila EXE and the window class/titles. I'm assuming since MastSogo's did both, it's just a matter of tweaking those settings. As soon as somebody gets me that info, I can add it into the config app.
Installed on a Wizard (WM6.1 5.2.20273) running Manilla2D, set Today screen to use TodayAgenda 1.5 only. After soft reset, I get a Win32Exception with the following debugging information (see attached).
I'm checking the launch parameters in the config now (I started with the defaults).
Sheesh, I should have checked the parameters before going to the work of assembling that debugging jpeg. For Manila2D, the two references to Manila.exe need to be changed to Manila2D.exe. I still don't have it working, but at least it only throws one error message now.
I don't have any more testing time today. Good luck with your app.
thx1200 said:
It may work with TF2D, I just have no way to test it since my device is TF3D. In the config, you can specify the location of the Manila EXE and the window class/titles. I'm assuming since MastSogo's did both, it's just a matter of tweaking those settings. As soon as somebody gets me that info, I can add it into the config app.
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As Uracil said, the name of the executable for TF2D is Manila2D. That's why Manila control needs a config program. It asked which one you are using and sets the parameter accordingly.
Fantastic. Loaded this onto my AT&T Stock, fully bloated Fuze. Works like a champ! Great app, thanks!
I will try this for sure!
TWO THINGS!
1) anybody knows a safe way to uninstall Manila Control?
2) I am a bit affraid of this "resident" thing... this program (TFD let's call it) uses one of the very scarce 32 processes? if YES sorry it's not for me (I am already dangerously close to the limit - up to the point that some sync processes don't have where to run)
nice app! well done
Ran through the steps to set it up, on soft reset the device hangs at the startup HTC animation, Hard reset time , the manila im using has the following mods:
CFC Compression
Background 4 all tabs (mun rus)
Stocks tab
HD contacts
Will investigate further..
EDIT: Havent been able to replicate this issue after a hard reset, probably something else i installed.
Minor issue ive spotted though, set left softkey in TF3D to "Today" which hides TF3D....in the blank today screen i dont see the setting for the left softkey (Which is set to "TouchFlo 3D" and should show TF3D) i still see the softkey setting from when TF3D is visible. So the effect is i cant get back to TF3D after hiding it unless i literally run it from the start menu.
NLS said:
I will try this for sure!
TWO THINGS!
1) anybody knows a safe way to uninstall Manila Control?
2) I am a bit affraid of this "resident" thing... this program (TFD let's call it) uses one of the very scarce 32 processes? if YES sorry it's not for me (I am already dangerously close to the limit - up to the point that some sync processes don't have where to run)
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WM 6.x and newer raised the process limit to 32768, so you should be fine.
EDIT: I was wrong! Don't believe me! Keep reading below. (The short of it: WM6 is based on CE 5.0, NOT CE 6.0, which is the version of CE that doesn't have the 32 process limit.)
Uracil said:
Sheesh, I should have checked the parameters before going to the work of assembling that debugging jpeg. For Manila2D, the two references to Manila.exe need to be changed to Manila2D.exe. I still don't have it working, but at least it only throws one error message now.
I don't have any more testing time today. Good luck with your app.
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The exception you showed is the service not finding the EXE. There are two places you need to change it. The "EXE Only" config is just the name of the EXE (for finding it in the running process list). The "full path" is where the file is located in the file system (including the EXE name!). Did you change both?
Thanks for the info. I'm going to make that "file not found" error more friendly for beta2. Also, now that I know what I'm looking for, I can add a built-in way to switch from Manila3D to Manila2D.
mrvanx said:
Ran through the steps to set it up, on soft reset the device hangs at the startup HTC animation, Hard reset time , the manila im using has the following mods:
CFC Compression
Background 4 all tabs (mun rus)
Stocks tab
HD contacts
Will investigate further..
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Does it get to the Today screen at all? The service is in the Startup folder. All it does is try to Launch manila.exe at startup (you can actually even disable that if you want to in the config), so it would be really weird if that froze the device. Not saying it's not possible, just really really weird!
thx1200 said:
Does it get to the Today screen at all? The service is in the Startup folder. All it does is try to Launch manila.exe at startup (you can actually even disable that if you want to in the config), so it would be really weird if that froze the device. Not saying it's not possible, just really really weird!
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See my edit above
thx1200 said:
WM 6.x and newer raised the process limit to 32768, so you should be fine.
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No man you are wrong (100%).
In *my* WM6.1 at least, the limit is 32. Well in fact all WM6.1.
Only new WinCE (not the builds used in WM6.X) have lifted this limit.
WM7 is supposed to not have this limit (because uses different WinCE) and a very small possibility (like 5%) that WM6.5 will have this limit lifted.
With the help of Daniel Herrero (the guy that makes CommManagerPro) we even built a simple app that we run as much as we could, to test this.
Sure enough my device after 4-5 runs started killing other apps. After 1-2 more runs, I got a pop-up that said that I cannot run more apps because I reached the process limit. My device is a loaded Touch Pro.
His much lighter X1, sure enough came to the same result, but only after more runs, about 10 or something (since he had more process "slots" free).
So you probably have to (and please do) rethink your strategy (for example use a REAL service or handle things based on triggers) as processes ARE a scarce commodity in WM.
At least add a mode or something that doesn't use a process all the time (even with some extra delay). I will certainly NOT eat more of my processes.
I installed this on my Touch HD... ran config but chaned nothing, disabled TF3d and soft reset... now don't know what to do... seem to be missing a step... for example how to toggle between Today and TF3d... running hide and close tf3d in the utilities folderdoes nothing
NLS said:
No man you are wrong (100%).
In *my* WM6.1 at least, the limit is 32. Well in fact all WM6.1.
Only new WinCE (not the builds used in WM6.X) have lifted this limit.
WM7 is supposed to not have this limit (because uses different WinCE) and a very small possibility (like 5%) that WM6.5 will have this limit lifted.
With the help of Daniel Herrero (the guy that makes CommManagerPro) we even built a simple app that we run as much as we could, to test this.
Sure enough my device after 4-5 runs started killing other apps. After 1-2 more runs, I got a pop-up that said that I cannot run more apps because I reached the process limit. My device is a loaded Touch Pro.
His much lighter X1, sure enough came to the same result, but only after more runs, about 10 or something (since he had more process "slots" free).
So you probably have to (and please do) rethink your strategy (for example use a REAL service or handle things based on triggers) as processes ARE a scarce commodity in WM.
At least add a mode or something that doesn't use a process all the time (even with some extra delay). I will certainly NOT eat more of my processes.
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You are right. I was going on what I read on another website from a while back. I just did some research and, sure enough, WM6 is based on CE 5, which has the 32 process, 32MB limit still in place.
The strategy I am using will not change as there is no way (that I know of) to write a service DLL in the Compact Framework, but if somebody knows of a way, I will certainly look into it.
EDIT: I did a check and I'm only running 24 processes with my media app, Total Commander, TFD, 3 other "service" apps (dont forget, PocketShield, VistaHide Battery Bar). That leaves me with 6 more apps until WM6 gets nervous (it seems to close after going above 30). How are you so close? I'm not judging your mobile computing habits, I'm just curious! Also, I'm thinking of rolling the "service" code into stand alone EXEs for cases like yours, but it will be very slow switching back and forth. I tested that at first before deciding on the memory resident app and it took about 5 seconds to switch each time. But maybe you'll have better luck!
abeery said:
I installed this on my Touch HD... ran config but chaned nothing, disabled TF3d and soft reset... now don't know what to do... seem to be missing a step... for example how to toggle between Today and TF3d... running hide and close tf3d in the utilities folderdoes nothing
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It's possble the HD may have a slightly different Manila configuration than the Diamond/Pro. If you find the manila.exe and can scan the window classes and titles (such as with FDCsoft's Task manager) that will give you the info you need to configure it for the HD. If you figure it out, post it here so I can add it to the config app.
mrvanx said:
EDIT: Havent been able to replicate this issue after a hard reset, probably something else i installed.
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GOOD! Whew!
mrvanx said:
Minor issue ive spotted though, set left softkey in TF3D to "Today" which hides TF3D....in the blank today screen i dont see the setting for the left softkey (Which is set to "TouchFlo 3D" and should show TF3D) i still see the softkey setting from when TF3D is visible. So the effect is i cant get back to TF3D after hiding it unless i literally run it from the start menu.
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Let me see if I am understanding you. The left soft key on the "real" Today screen says "TouchFlo" but it isn't launching TouchFlo? If you go into the configuration and set the Today left soft key using my quick drop down (Show TouchFlo 3D) this doesn't fix the issue? If so, can you post what the app path is that it is showing?

i00 ROM (GPS+Phone+Mic+MMS) Updated 9/3/2009

Ok just cooked this up over the weekend .. still needs a little tweaking and testing - is the first ROM that I have released - I think it is kinda clean
Feedback is much appriciated (as always) ... and let me know if you find any bugs
BTW I read somewhere that it is possible to increase SnapVue's RAM to 64 MBs - sounds like a load of * to me ... but let me know if you know how to do this as it is really SnapVue's downfall IMHO
... I will also post some screen shots when I get the chance (is kinda late here atm)
... basically these are the specs:
Initial Release (8/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~15MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~20MBs
Based on thaihugo's kitchen ROM
New input methods:
Full QWERTY (nicer and easier to input than the built in one)
Software included:
Office Mobile
Remote Desktop
Pictures and videos
Notes
Pocket Internet Explorer
Live/Messenger
Windows Media Player
Restored Today Items
Internet Sharing
Liberated
Opera Browser (Full)
MS Voice Command (Pre setup to read email subjects)
NET Compact Framework 3.5
Network Plugin
HTC Task Manager 2
HTC GPS Tool
SIM Manager
Task Manager
USB Tool
Automatically deletes Opera cache, PIE cache Temp folder and Google Maps cache each startup
Various registry tweaks... eg:
No SMS notification
Cleartype
Phone stuff removed since there is no phone functionality ... yet
The link is attached in the text document so I can see how many ppl download it
Note: you can free up alot of space by removing MS Voice Command from the cook - and save about 4 MBs of RAM by disabling it - It is important for me to be able to 'hear' my emails come in while I am at work though so this has been put in
However the overall stability of the ROM has been sacrificed in doing so -
To disable: Start > Settings > Voice Command > Uncheck Enabled
WARNING - IF PROGRAMS CLOSE UNEXPECTEDLY: This is because your low on RAM - you can stop the Voice Commander service as stated above, or download advanced config and prevent HTC Task Manager from closing apps automatically when low on RAM
Update (10/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~22.5 MBs (and 27.95 total user area)
Ripped out more from the stock ROM to free up some more space (bluetooth functionality etc since the snap view side can not see bluetooth anyway etc.)
Increased ROM stability and freed up some more ram by removing unnecessary services.
New registry tweaks:
Changed default area code to nothing
Added email and and txt msg sound notifications
Update (18/2/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~19.58 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~28.84 MBs (and 32.32 total user area)
Changes:
Ripped out even more from the ROM
REMOVED OPERA (download it from one of the other threads if you want it back - I use the Windows side for surfing the net)
Changed splash screen
Added i00 Reg Edit 0.99 B (my own registry editor made especially for my ROM - will be released soon in a separate thread)
Update (2/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~16.78 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.53 MBs (and 30.82 total user area)
Changes:
Comm Manager now works
Phone and Mic functionality now works
Added New Radio and SPL to the Flash so that n00be's don't brick their device
Screen rotation setting removed as it was buggy
Replaced Soft Reset with custom one so that the user is now prompted to confirm that they want to restart
Updated HTC GPS Tool
Help in start menu is now not empty
GPS Router Added
Internet Sharing moved to System folder
Media player removed
WM6 (NOT HTC) Task Manager Removed
Update (3/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: ~17.25 MBs
Free Storage after hard reset: ~27.73 MBs (and 31.07 total user area)
Changes:
Voice Command now announces incoming calls by default
Remote Desktop put back in
IE defaults to high resolution
Speakerphone cannot be disabled on the phone now (there is no built in speaker so you could not hear the other caller when the speakerphone was disabled)
Ripped some unnecessary stuff from various places
Update 20090307 (7/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 17.09 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 27.77 MBs (and 31.07 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
.Net apps now work for apps not in the Windows directory
Update 20090309 (9/3/2009):
Free RAM after hard reset: 16.1 MBs (Taken from HKCU\Performance\ after 2nd boot)
Free Storage after hard reset: 25.83 MBs (and 29.45 total user area) (Free storage taken after 2nd boot)
Changes:
MMS intergrated into ROM
Known issues:
MMS recording voice note does not work
I now accept donations so please donate a beer if you like this ROM .
In the purpose section tell me that it's for i00 ROM and if you want me to list you below and if you want your donation amount to be shown.
Donations: (As of 22/5/2009)
$15 markus1983
Total $150 (6)
Current downloads: 1429 + text document download count (uploaded new text document and it cleared the count!)
OK here a few screen shots as promised
Common Questions
OK thought I'd put together a list of common questions that people have with this ROM to stop me answering the same questions again and again.
Q: What else is included in the Flash
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: Can I run this ROM on
A: Besides the OS the ROM includes Hard SPL and Radio 1.27.35.28
Q: How do I install this ROM?
A: Well if you have used custom ROMs in the Past you can just download and run the EXE - else you will have to "Liberate" your shift - connect it to your Vista side with USB Tools and then run the EXE
Q: How do I disable T9
A: Open the input options for the Full QWERTY Keyboard - Click T9 Settings then un-check all the checkboxes
Q: The WM side turns off and will not come back on
A: If this happens to you go to ( on the WM side) Settings > Connections > USB to PC application and tick "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" (thanks nbos04)
A2: You can also disable (Under Settings>Power>Advanced) the option to turn off the device when it is not used for X.
Q: Programs keep closing unexpectedly
A: You may be low on RAM - if this is the case you may want to kill the Voice Command Service, as this takes up to 4MBs of RAM constantly
Q: How can I change the Keyboard Language?
A: The registry setting for the keyboard layout is as follows HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang; The complete list of values to enter can be found here; however not all are fully compatible with the Windows Mobile platform; also changing these key mappings will not change the large on screen keyboard - to change the on screen one you will need to either edit the eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt file (advanced but allows for custom layouts); or download another layout from here.
I will consider including the additional on screen keyboard languages in future releases.
Q: How do I set the data connection on the W/M side to auto - disconnect as it drains the battery too quickly?
A: The registry setting for the to auto disconnect the data connection is at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings. In there you have the setting CacheTime this is the number of seconds that will elapse before auto disconnection the data connection when not in use; change this as appropriate. You will also need to turn on the auto disconnection by editing the SuspendResume to read: GPRS_bye_if_device_off
(Note: if the auto disconnection still does not work make sure that you are not constantly connected to data - ie. Exchange server set to receive items as they arrive)
*Reserved 3*
Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.
thaihugo said:
Congrats on your rom. Looks heavy.
There is no way to get 64 mb of ram as this is the current chipset capacity, without OS loaded.
44Mb is my maximum storage available (with a functionning system of course)
I'm waiting for the new base with phone to work from there.
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Yea like I said it sounded like a load of * -ahh well - plan to re-release this ROM when the phone is hacked too!
I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.
Flanimal said:
I love this sort of ROM - stuffed full of goodies. It's like a Christmas treat.
I've installed the ROM just now and it's exactly how I would want the WM side to be. Thanks for setting up Opera for us layabouts that can't be bothered to
I have syncd the ROM with my huge Outlook file and it works great.
Will give you more feedback as I play.
Latest:
I'm very happy with Opera.
Haven't worked out how to disable T9 yet to set up email etc.
I can't install youtubeplay I'm getting an error. Anyone know how to get it working on this ROM?
Very Latest: I found the option to disable T9 under the keyboard options. I love the new large on-screen keypad!
I prefer the fancy calculator of Gullum's ROM IMHO.
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Click to collapse
I will install the calc skin from my touch pro and see how that runs - also will rip some more "unnecessary" stuff out such as bluetooth since it doesn't work anyway and will hopefully free up some memory too
As for you tube you could download the diamond/touch pro version here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395338
don't know if it works but judging by my touch pro the interface only works in Portrait (it may still work but will load in portrait)
as for the calc skin i have attached it to this post with a screen shot
will also post a newer version of my ROM, later tonight, that has ~22.5 MBs of free space (and 27.95 total user area) after boot and ~16 MBs of free ram ... seems to be more stable also
may embed the calc skin into later builds ... but it's a little big for my tastes for something i don't use
Thanks i00.
I agree that the default calculator is best now that I have seen the memory requirements of the fancy calculator skin.
Thanks for the youtubeplayer link. I haven't tried it yet but will do so this evening.
I'm having a bizzare problem setting up my email accounts for some reason. It is tricky entering my username and password, and when I try to auto detect the account configuration it says it cannot connect. When I go BACK, the password field contains more characters than I originally entered. I haven't tried manually setting up the full account yet, but this behaviour I haven't seen before.
I haven't worked out how to get the voice control goodies working yet but I'll enjoying tryin all of that out this week. I wouldn't miss voice control at all on your next ROM release however.
Edited:
Comm Manager under SnapVue Settings seems to run without displaying anything. I hope that can be fixed...
Looking forward to your next ROM release. Hope it is soon... your's is the best ROM yet IMHO.
Thanks again.
Updated.
Have been using the new ROM and am happy to report that it is notably more responsive and faster.
I was delighted to find screen orientation option for portrait under settings, so thanks for that. Although I did manage lose the start menu at some point so I was stuck on the Snapvue page and was forced to reboot from Vista. I'll let you know the details if I repeat it.
The modem is totally stable, which is great. I didn't manage to work out how to install youtubeplay but it's no showstopper, I'm very please with the ROM. I installed fexploreext which is small but infinitely useful.
Ta.
Will try to post a new release before Wed next week ... any suggestions for the new release? - I am considering taking out Opera Full and loading Opera mini instead as it requires less RAM.
Am also making a registry editor that I plan to include in the next release.
Let me know if you (anyone) has any requests.
Kris
hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?
erezj said:
hmmmm, any chance to have some kind of manila 2D on it?
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hrm dont think that M2D works to well in landscape ... if i am wrong let me know
Kris
hey kris, you could be right.
how about that pointUI thingy from the dev forum? can it work?
i want to have somthing else for a change then the snapveiw/htc home .... hellp me ;-)
Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?
snorlax said:
Hi everyone,
I'd really like to test this ROM but each time I launch le Custom RUU with this ROM, it ends uo with an "ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR"
Is there a special thing to do to use this ROM ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you installed a custom rom onto your device before?
You need to Hard SPL on it prior to trying to flash this ROM
The error codes are listed here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/windows-mobile-faq/13329-ruu-errors.html
This page states
ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR
This error occurs during the CE ROM code upgrade process.
Solution: If this happens, you can just soft-reset the device and run RUU again. The update process will then continue.
Note: At this stage, the Wince is destroyed; instead, it is in upgrade mode.
I would try again and if that doesn't work
Download another RUU
I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !
snorlax said:
I think that's my problem : I've only liberated the ROM shipped with my Shift.
I found the thread with Hard SPL... I've install it... Now's the ROM turn !
Thanks for the help !
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So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
Also nice dog btw
going to try it
I have tried thai hugos and gullims and been disappointed with various things so i'm goign to try yours. I was intending to try to install my tiny kensington mouse which is bluetooth and worked with my advantage but if you've ripped BT out I can't is there a way to put it back in?
Thw worst thing i found about the other rom's is the fact stoopid usb tool never stays connected, anyone else have that issue?
edit: found some stuff about usb tool issues on the forum and trying those.
i00 said:
So did the ROM flash since u Hard SPLed? - and let me know what u think.
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Click to collapse
Yes, the "flashing process" worked perfectly... but I was a bit disappointed with the fact that the ActiveSync process was unable to complete the update of my 325 contacts : it always failed after 116 contacs updated...
So I tried a french ROM (the "French light GPS" one) and it worked...
Maybe a language issue...
If you want me to go back to your ROM and work together to sort this out, I'd be pleased to help...
i00 said:
Also nice dog btw
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Thank's... it's my real dog...when she was young of course !

[ROM] (Phone+GPS+Vista GPS+touch)Thaihugo's shift age of reason and age of beauty

Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Mirror:http://www.filesavr.com/light_1
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.
How to connect to vista side:
first, know the name of your shift. If you didn't change it it is SHIFT, otherwise type hostname in a command line in vista side.
then type services.msc and make sure the server service is started and set up to automatic if you want it to start every boot
Now type \\shift in your start menu. A windows must open, and you should see thinks, like Users,and printers. If not, don't worry, you can still go on. For more advanced users, it can be a good time to set up a share.
Now go on Snapvue side, and go to settings-connections-network plugin. First click on the "enable network folder" and wait for the reset.
Now, when reset is done, start usbtools to activate activesync. On vista side, make sure you are connected ( set up a partnership, or just click on connect whitout partneship. In this case, you will have to do it each time.)
Go back on Snapvue, and in network plugin click on New...
In remote path, enter \\shift\users if shift is your computername, and if you saw Users in the window on the second step.
Otherwise, you can enter \\shift\c$ to access the whole drive.
Click on map drive. Enter your username and your password (the one you use to login in vista)
Now, you can browse the pc using the network folder. You can add music to media player, browse pictures, wmv video...
You can even install some progs on vista side, but I don't recommend it. You might use it also as a data storage for SPB insight (my little baby) for example
thank you.
thaihugo said:
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PointUI 2 is good, but I liked PointUI1.5 better. If they could let us choose the search provider that would be awesome.
--Rama--
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
----
The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.
lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
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No, but I think this is going to be solved without flashing a new rom
Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.
Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side
JaWe said:
Thanks Thaihugo, this rom is really good and a lot of free memory and storage for programs. Only problem is that when I have Vista side open gps isn't working for me. Well it is working (satellite used about 4-10) but Satellite Fixed stays 0. When I turn off vista side Satellite Fixed is after a few seconds 5-7.. I have Windows 7 build 7000 installed on vista side and Light version on snapvue side
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I have the same problem, but I've had this with other roms too
Thanks for this... I do not have Auto Connection
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks
feyisetan said:
It does not seem this new beatiful ROM has auto connection, not been able to connect WM 3g or am I missing something? Thanks
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I removed automatic connection setup to save space. You need to setup your connection by yourself in settings-connections. Once done, it will connect automaticaly. Most providers can sen you a sms from their web site with connection settings.
I'm not sure you want to lose 3 megs of storage for this one time operation, do you?
Downloading the ROM
Thanks
lucid said:
Thanks ThaiHugo !
Flashing the rom at this very moment. PointUI
Has this ROM a higher mic gain setting as the default, i.e. is the microphone
issue solved (low sound recording volume) ?
Will report in this post later on.
----
The ROM looks and feels supersweet. However, if you work with it
for some time it get's laggy. No harm, we all understand it's a test.
Will play with the GPS2Blue thing to get that fixed too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.
your rom is the best
thaihugo said:
If you want, you can just disable the today plugin, and you get a full working wm for when you want to be serious. And you just soft reset when you are just using it as an updated snapvue.
To disale fully pointui:
delete the shortcut in \windows\startup (start2) and disable the today plugin.
To reenable, recheck the today plugin.
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Click to collapse
Thaihugo, I love your rom very much so fast and simple,easy for install software and hope many function will be coming
added tutorial to connect the vista HDD on second post.
siriokeliang said:
Thanks ThaiHugo.
I preferred "age of beauty". How works the network browser to access the vista HDD? I am not able. If you can help me please.
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You can read my tutorial on post 2.
thaihugo said:
You can read my tutorial on post 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll swear that I had not seen.
siriokeliang said:
I'll swear that I had not seen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I posted it today only, after you requested it
Installed the 'light' ROM yesterday. Works great.
Thanks again
thaihugo said:
Hello,
I'm still working on the different sound topics, but here are my newest roms.
I call them age of reason and age of beauty. This is a kind of trial for the second one...
The point is that we need a rom to really use the shift possibility. We need storage space, real gps useage, and of course maximum ram.
This is the age of reason rom. The lightest possible rom, where you can add a lot of programs, more if you use UPX compression.
You need to flash the radio from the phone+gps rom before using this one.
What does it have:
42 Mb storage and 22 Mb memory free
WORK on WINMOB SIDE
All standard Winmob application (ie, notes, media player, sms, phone, gps)
Task manager to soft reset, kill process, etc...
Clear temp (as requested)
USB tools
A homemade program to switch the speaker when on call. This program is for my development my roms only, and it work as a service, so it cannot be killed by the OS.
There is a managment program to remove the service if needed.
WORK WITH VISTA
storage:
A network browser to access the vista HDD
GPS:
An automatic GPS redirection to the PC side
This program is GPS2Blue, and it is preconfigured. You just have to launch the shortcut in HTC debug tools, and setup vista to get communication.
GPS works on both side, so you can use it on Windows mobile too of course
A few words on this last program.
GPS2Blue is a program made by Paludour. You can check his website here:
http://www.paludour.net
He allowed me to add this program to my roms, as you must normally download the cab from his site. This way, I could put it preconfigured on our devices. Many thanks to him for that.
When you are connected with usbtools to vista, click on this gps2blue icon, and you can receve the gps on vista if you follow this guideline:
http://www.paludour.net/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
Just click on the gps2blue icon when you have to do the PDA side of this tutorial, the rest is aleady done.
The link for this rom is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjm0ydmmz5/Light.rar
MD5: 4c31ba01b109e22cd77bc3da53220672
Now for the other rom, the age of beauty:
This rom is the same, with one little twist: there is pointUI pre-installed.
This is a test, as I don't know if this is a good way instead of installing it afterward. Anyway, you are good for some eyecandy.
You have to pay for this: you have only 37 Mb of sorage, and 9 (yes, nine) megs of free memory after reset. But the good news is that you can disable it, and still be using the rom. So you can choose when you want eye candy, and when you want to be serious. If it is requested, I might update this one.
The link for this one is:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3zmtnyi2mjh/Full.rar
MD5:fe2a2d6592339c29c994e4a2e6638d1e
Enjoy and report here if you like it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site
leonlsl said:
i can't download from the above link,can you upload to other site
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Click to collapse
It's pointless if you don't say which rom you want, and which site you can download from.

State of Android on Vogue

Can anyone educate me as to whether Android is a viable option on the vogue, and if there is a usable build (flashable or running off of SD)?
I have switched (possibly temporarily) from blackberry to a Vogue, and have flashed OEM WM 6.1 and most recently egzthunder1's WM 6.5 rom. I'm trying to get the device as usable without a stylus as possible, and WM 6.5 is pretty close to that goal, but there are still some reliability problems. Just little constant annoyances (can't seem to get an LED to flash to let me know I have unread SMS or eMail, touchscreen is not as sensitive to finger presses as iPhone / iPod touch or Dell Axim X50v, GUI is still clumsy and clunky in some apps), and some bugs (device freezing up, touchscreen becoming less responsive from time to time, SMS notifications not triggering alerts, etc).
So is Android available, and if so, is it just a novelty or is it a legitimate option for actual day to day use on a Vogue?
Thanks!
Dailey use.. but it's not in the upgrade forum. you have to check the general forum.
To get android installed as a complete windows mobile replacement check here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
It's starting to become a viable option.
Note that bluetooth is still a work in progress, but otherwise most everything else works.
The only reasons I still use Windows Mobile are:
1) Longer battery life: For some reason android currently lasts about a day or two, when the phone is on standby. For Windows Mobile I can get it to last about 5-6.
2) Tethering: There are some issues with tethering (needing to run custom programs on the laptop, etc).
3) No-internet GPS (TomTom, etc)
Things I liked about Android:
1) Responsive touch screen
2) Easier to receive/dismiss an SMS
3) Easier to send an SMS
4) GMail integration
5) Lots of applications, and easy to install
6) Faster/Better web browser (Better than Opera Mobile, SkyFire, IE, etc)
If you want to give it a try, you can use my version. It's a slightly older version of android (not the best there is to offer), but it works decently well. Google Maps Navigation doesn't work, but it should soon.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58383/android.exe
The exe is a self-extracting zip file. Double-click and it will ask
where you want to extract it.
You'll need to extract that zip file to your phone's memory card.
Extract it so that the android folder is at the base of the memory
card (or extract it to your desktop and then copy the android folder
over).
Then in Windows Mobile, you go to Start > Programs > File Explorer.
1. Navigate to the Secure Digital Card folder.
2. Go to the 'android' folder on the SD card.
3. Run Haret.exe. Then click Run.
It will reboot into android. You can always use the reset button on
the bottom to get back into Windows Mobile.
The buttons in Android are as follows:
1. Top button (short press): Wakes the phone up from sleep. It also
brings up/closes the android menu. The android menu is like the File
menu in windows mobile, it's used to enter URLs in the browser, or
adjust settings in other screens.
2. Top button (long press): Brings the keyboard up manually.
3. Top button (long press when android menu is up): Rotates the
screen between horizontal and vertical mode.
4. Side button (short press): The camera button on the side is the
'back' button.
5. Side button (long press): Brings you back to the main screen.
Your application will stay where it's at (internet will stay open).
6. End Call Button: Ends call. Turns off the screen when you're on
the Home Screen.
Do this to port your contacts from Windows Mobile to Android (need a GMail account):
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
oisact said:
Can anyone educate me as to whether Android is a viable option on the vogue, and if there is a usable build (flashable or running off of SD)?
I have switched (possibly temporarily) from blackberry to a Vogue, and have flashed OEM WM 6.1 and most recently egzthunder1's WM 6.5 rom. I'm trying to get the device as usable without a stylus as possible, and WM 6.5 is pretty close to that goal, but there are still some reliability problems. Just little constant annoyances (can't seem to get an LED to flash to let me know I have unread SMS or eMail, touchscreen is not as sensitive to finger presses as iPhone / iPod touch or Dell Axim X50v, GUI is still clumsy and clunky in some apps), and some bugs (device freezing up, touchscreen becoming less responsive from time to time, SMS notifications not triggering alerts, etc).
So is Android available, and if so, is it just a novelty or is it a legitimate option for actual day to day use on a Vogue?
Thanks!
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Did you happen to see the article posted yesterday on the XDA home page?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619877
There are plenty of android builds available for the vogue. No flashing required. Simply copy the files onto the root of your SD card.
If you use the 1.5 based build in the thread that I linked bluetooth works fine.
We're working on it for donut (1.6) as well.. As google changes the way things are handled in every release it often takes a while to get them sorted out.
The Tattoo that is posted on the man xda page looks real good ... i'm about to get a second vogue just to play with it.
Thanks everyone. I was able to give this version a try off of SD:
[note]I Can't embed links to URLs link back to this very forum, which is kind of silly[/note]
SenseTattoo 1.0.
But for the life of me I couldn't flash it. I really liked it, and I think it might be the deciding factor for me to switch over to the Vogue as my main phone. The main downside was large delays, which I assume was from loading data from the SD card instead of NAND.
I'm reverting back to WM 6.5 so I can at least run Android off the SD card again.
Is there information comparing Hero to Tattoo? I searched but couldn't find anything. Are there UI differences, functional differences, or is it just skins?
oisact said:
Thanks everyone. I was able to give this version a try off of SD:
[note]I Can't embed links to URLs link back to this very forum, which is kind of silly[/note]
SenseTattoo 1.0.
But for the life of me I couldn't flash it. I really liked it, and I think it might be the deciding factor for me to switch over to the Vogue as my main phone. The main downside was large delays, which I assume was from loading data from the SD card instead of NAND.
I'm reverting back to WM 6.5 so I can at least run Android off the SD card again.
Is there information comparing Hero to Tattoo? I searched but couldn't find anything. Are there UI differences, functional differences, or is it just skins?
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Click to collapse
Flashing is simple. If it works from SD, then you put the data.img (distro should come with one or look around for one), system.whatever, and rootfs.gz files in the BASE directory of the SD card. Then you create 3 blank files, systemtonand, rootfstonand, and datatonand. Then flash the *.nbh file. When it reboots, it will program the phone.
mssmison said:
If you use the 1.5 based build in the thread that I linked bluetooth works fine.
We're working on it for donut (1.6) as well.. As google changes the way things are handled in every release it often takes a while to get them sorted out.
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for phone calls as well as playing music?
masalma said:
for phone calls as well as playing music?
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yes.. Again though can we please put the android threads back in the general thread.
oisact said:
Can anyone educate me as to whether Android is a viable option on the vogue
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I agree about the comments that say Android is very close to being an everyday ROM. Depending on what you are willing to put up with it could even be considered an everyday ROM at this point BUT....
After running Android 1.6 for several weeks (daily use) I have gone back to NFSFAN's final 6.5 ROM and I have to say WOW!! it feels 100% more “native” on the Vogue. Stuff just works. period. So if oisact is looking for something that is modern, works well and eliminates most (not all) of the stylus use then I would highly recommend NFSFAN's work.
There will be far more "little constant annoyances" with Android at this stage then with a good Windows Mobile ROM. Again I refer you to our friend NFSFAN
Also, part of the stylus issue on the Vogue I believe is simply due to screen size. I often whipped out my stylus under Android as well. Although it is good that more and more of these ROMs are becoming less and less stylus centric. Windows Mobile (particularly some of the 3rd party apps) has to get up to speed in this area.
The Fish
thefish123 said:
I agree about the comments that say Android is very close to being an everyday ROM. Depending on what you are willing to put up with it could even be considered an everyday ROM at this point BUT....
After running Android 1.6 for several weeks (daily use) I have gone back to NFSFAN's final 6.5 ROM and I have to say WOW!! it feels 100% more “native” on the Vogue. Stuff just works. period. So if oisact is looking for something that is modern, works well and eliminates most (not all) of the stylus use then I would highly recommend NFSFAN's work.
There will be far more "little constant annoyances" with Android at this stage then with a good Windows Mobile ROM. Again I refer you to our friend NFSFAN
Also, part of the stylus issue on the Vogue I believe is simply due to screen size. I often whipped out my stylus under Android as well. Although it is good that more and more of these ROMs are becoming less and less stylus centric. Windows Mobile (particularly some of the 3rd party apps) has to get up to speed in this area.
The Fish
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Did you try the 1.5 ION build? I have been using it for more than a month now and everything seems to work perfectly.
I have been using it daily and wouldn't ever consider going back to nfsfan winmo rom.
google voice
I'm loving the android builds!
However, I haven't been able to make any calls using the Google voice app. Anyone else, or is it just my setup?

[WM6.1/WM6.5.x]«HERMANN» | RELEASED ROMs: WM6.1 v3.0, WM6.5.0 v3.2

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I must stress that your phone must be HARDSPL'ed in order to flash my ROMs. Also, read this post for updated flashing instructions.
THIS ROM IS ENGLISH WWE ONLY and don't forget to backup your various info (contacts, documents, etc). Users of Palm Messaging can backup their SMS messages by looking for "PalmMsgV001" in the windows folder. Unfortunately, reading this file can only be done with Palm Messaging, so copy/paste anything of importance before flashing.
Special note: Bluetooth file sharing now works GUARANTEED in all 2.5 and up ROMs, and remember that the "receive all beams" option in the Infrared settings is on by default, if you don't use Bluetooth don't forget to turn this off.
V3.2 Hermann Classic
Version 3.0 updates:
-Please refer to this post regarding changes.
-The stuff you know from Version 2.5 is still in, but with complete bug fixes.
-No more "BASE" or "Full" ROMs.
-Storage is low because ROM is XPR compressed for AltKeys.
-ROM is designed to work with toxic's Android UI packs (Not fully tested)
-Symbols SIP added in case Alt Keys does not work. This can be accessed via the "up" arrow beside the SIP keyboard icon when the SIP is active.
Version 3.1 update:
-Sped up image processing on the device.
--This boost in image processing brings a significant overall boost to the device's operation, including faster camera image capturing, JPEG viewing, and perhaps a boost to the 2D graphics rendering on the device (over 100 points boost over non-Hermann ROMs in SKTools graphics benchmark), making emulators such as MoonGBA able to play games like Megaman Battle network 95% speed (frameskip 1, no sound due to slow cpu)
-Fixed fatal Camera launching bug.
Version 3.2 updates:
-Hopefully I finally fixed the fatal Camera bug.
-Fixed missing "USB to PC" setting.
-Fixed Windows Live, am able to log into my Live account. (Don't forget to check your APN in "Connection" settings)
-PATCH: Want to enable the Ringer Switch at the top of the Treo to vibrate when you receive a call? Read this post.
-Themes: Want the rest of the default WM6.5 themes? Click here.
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VERSION 3.2 ROM Build 21895
51.49MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 3.2 ROM (Do not forget to soft reset the device after "Device Customization" finishes!)
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Consumer ROM Build 21916
48MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 2.4 ROM
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Version 2.4 features:
--I gave Fjtor's kitchen a try
--Start Menu at the top
--First Treo750 ROM to utilize Bepe's Big Storage
--As I promised, HTC's 21889 Build is used for Fast Stable use
--Bluetooth file sharing ready
--BASE ROM is a bare ROM, great for users who want to install their own stuff
--Consumer ROM has basic stuff to get you started, such as Marketplace, Windows Live, Ringtones, xTask, and others
V2.3 Hermann Finger
2.3 Updates:
-Fixed ringer notification bug
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Hermann Finger BASE ROM
66MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD ROM
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Hermann Finger Consumer ROM
50MB available user Storage
24MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD ROM
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Features:
--These are primarily experimental ROMs.
--Start Menu at the bottom.
--Also cooked using Fjtor's kitchen
--Also utilizing Big Storage.
--Build 29007 is used here
--Bluetooth file sharing ready
--BASE ROM is a bare ROM, great for users who want to install their own stuff
--Consumer ROM has basic stuff to get you started, such as Marketplace, Windows Live, Ringtones, xTask, and others
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KITCHEN FILES (NEEDS FJTORSOL'S KITCHEN) Read this post for more info. NOTE: These are the old 2.4 packs)
Big Storage (This archive must be extracted to "\Sources\Devices\HTC Cheetah\Profiles")
http://www.mediafire.com/?uhmxn1j7aj0fsgf
UPDATED PACKAGES February 29 2012:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?57nedd9e7i131fr
Attached to this post is the 4-row Start Menu grid settings unique to the Hermann series of ROMs, so now you too can have more icons onscreen! Instructions are in the .txt files in the archive.
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<<<<<<<<<<<---WM6.1 HERMANN--->>>>>>>>>>>
The best WM6.1 ROM you will ever see for the Treo
Version 3.0 updates:
-Please refer to this post regarding changes.
-The stuff you know from Version 2.5 is still in, but with complete bug fixes.
-No more TouchFlo because the ROM is already finger-scrolling enabled.
-XPR compressed
note: Popup menu font too big? Read this post on how to change it.
note: Unable to set USB cable settings? Read this post on how to fix it.
PATCH: Want to enable the Ringer Switch at the top of the Treo to vibrate when you receive a call? Read this post.
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Build 20771
58MB available user Storage
29MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 3.0 ROM (Do not forget to soft reset the device after "Device Customization" finishes!)
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Old release news
Features in both builds:
Version 1
--Added single click side button functionality, customizable (default: camera)
--Registery cleaned up.
--Renamed "Storage Card" to "Mini SD".
--Enabled full screen option in Camera (it just removes the WM UI though)
--Palm messaging has been replaced with default MS inbox. Now SMS can be backed up or defaulted to 3rd party programs like Flexmail.
--Start menu has been optimized for speed. Because of the extra speed, 4 columns are introduced instead of 3, giving users less to scroll through and more content (and back to the normal speed).
--Red button functionality is full like WM6, including radio power off.
--xTask is streamlined into the OS as an EXT package. This program is your task manager, in Hermann Finger use this to intercept tapping the Start icon if your hardware button is dead.
--Both builds can be connected to Windows Mobile Device Center (tested on Windows7 Home Premmy 32bit). As I unfortunately cannot use Outlook, do let me know if that works.
Version 2 additions:
--For the first time ever, the Splash image when the phone is starting has been changed.
--Thanks to Big Storage, even though the ROM was compressed to XPR, it's fast and not using too much storage space.
--Pagepool is now 6MB, Fast is fast
--The Startup sound returns to Windows Mobile! Customizable, and can be disabled if a personal touch to your phone is unnecessary.
--Added Microphone AGC. Greatly enhances voice recording, and perhaps even phone calls.
--Added Clear Storage. Why Palm never had a software method to Hard Reset I'll never know...
--Added Keylock. It sometimes helps to lock the Green Button and the Start Button from turning on the phone. Funny, isn't it? At least on my phone.
--Taskbar icons modernized,adding Bluetooth display functionality
--Includes Arcsoft MMS 5.2.2.66
Version 2.1 additions
--This time Version 2.1 was cooked using Fjtorsol's kitchen. There are a few pros and cons, pros like working shortcuts, cons such as the inability to use network time (my V2 build could, but not 2.1). Note that Version 2.1 also has Fjtorsol's features.
--Some of Fjtor's features were upgraded, such as App service to 1.87.0.0, Arcsoft to 5.2.2.66, Sim Toolkit Svc to 4.93.0.2, Sim Toolkit UIPPC to 4.73.0.0, and USSD Service to 4.36.0.1.
--Like I promised, build 21889 has been tested for over a month and it's ready for use. This build was released in December 2010 from HTC, as you can see it's very fast and it totally smokes my Touch Pro. The \Windows\ folder loads in about 1 second, compared to Energy's ROM on my Touch Pro at 3-4 seconds.
--I decided to do 2 versions, a BASE ROM and a Consumer ROM, simply put, the BASE ROM is for users who want to install stuff themselves (like Windows Live), and the Consumer ROM is great if you want a lot of Microsoft services ready to use, such as Windows Live or Microsoft MyPhone. BASE ROM has a lot of storage available, Consumer ROM has 20% of that used up.
--Bluetooth file sharing is ready and it works, and you don't need to enable "accept all beams" in that Infrared setting. I have tested receiving a file from a Samsung SGH-D807 Simple Phone, all you need to do is "enable File sharing" in the FTP tab of the Bluetooth settings.
--Storage Card is the default name now, I was too lazy to change to MiniSD
--Version 2.1 retains Clear Storage and Microphone AGC, available in both BASE and Consumer ROMs.
--Both ROMs have Zip Mobile 2010 version 1.2.3.1.
--Pagepools are set at 6. Remember to change it depending on the kind of work you use your Treo for.
--Unfortunately, due to me using Fjtorsol's kitchen, the ROMs are compressed in LZX, I have no idea why my kitchen can use XPR at the same size Fjtor's does with LZX. So I stuck with LZX, which doesn't matter to Build 21889, because it's still fast
Fixes from Version 2 to 2.1
-Thanks to Fjtorsol's kitchen, shortcuts are no longer mysteriously deleted or cloned.
-Bluetooth file sharing used to be dead in Version 2. Fixed in Version 2.1, remember to enable file sharing in the FTP tab.
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Fixes since V1:
-[Hermann Classic]Fixed "Phone" icon in Start Menu that pointed to nowhere when tapped.
-Deleted dead SMS tone setting that didn't work
-Added missing "Brightness" icon in Settings Panel
-Added Missing "Keyguard" icon in Settings Panel
-Removed Palm's simple Ringtone settings, enabling the more customizable Windows Mobile ringtone settings
-When mapping the side button, there was no icon. Icon now defaulted to Camera.
-Option+OK mapped to XHook.
Known bugs:
--Due to my dependence on VolServ, the Ringtone settings for "Phone: Known Caller" retains that bug all custom ROMs have, which doesn't matter what kitchen you use. A fix was to remove the registry settings linked to VolServ, but then half the system will not work. To remedy, simply select the ActiveSync settings, then back to Known Caller and you'll see the real settings.
--The Caps/Shift keys icon that shows up beside the little keyboard SIP icon is gone. I discovered it is Theme related. I fixed it at one point during the Real Power Button testing, and it did show up. I can't seem to redo that without killing some things.
--In Fjtorsol's ROMs, I was unable to get time settings from my wireless carrier. I have confirmed this to be a problem with the type of ROM used as a base, as my V2 ROMs were based on Palm's 2.30 ROM, which supported my wireless carrier's network time. Unfortunately, because I used Fjtor's kitchen, this "bug" carried over to my V2.1 ROMs. This is a problem if you use programs that utilize Windows Mobile's Cell ID location-based service.
--Theme was removed from Hermann Finger. [Hermann Finger] The HTC Black theme (originally for WM6.5.0)seems to work at first, but changing to a different theme and back leaves the bottom bar and other 6.5.3 icons missing. I consider the HTC Black theme as a one time gig, apparently, since I cannot edit the theme as WinCE cab manager needs to be registered before I can fix it.
--Random? [Hermann Finger] With the enhanced top Taskbar, sometimes (it happened to me while locked to 3G) when you turn on the Radio, the signal appears empty (as blank, 0). There still is a signal the same as your last level, and your network type (3G, Edge, GSM) will still be shown, and you can still make calls. Hermann Classic did not have this problem, which it actually had a much cooler feature, remember when you turn on the radio, and try to access the "Phone" settings, and the Treo will tell you "the Phone is busy, wait 15 seconds", well in Hermann classic, I observed it to not show the signal strength until the Phone is ready. Might not happen often, but it was really cool.
--No more Splash screen. The Hard Reset function (Hold Red Button + Reset button) may look blank, or glitched, but it still works. Apparently Palm never thought Big Storage was possible
--The HSDPA icon that displays when you are actively downloading on HSDPA is gone. Or rather, Palm's Dial Lookup was the original source. don't worry, when that 3G icon turns into a funny looking icon, you are still on HSDPA.
--Fixed. BASE has no rings, Consumer does. Only 3 ringtones? Apparently, keeping Dial Lookup, Active Call, and my mod to remove Palm Messaging keeps it this way, no matter how I tried to cook the rings into there. Don't worry, you can still add your own ringtones, preferably into the \My Documents\My Ringtones folder.
--Fixed via Fjtorsol's kitchen. [Hermann Finger] There is again 2 MS Office folders. Both work the way they should, but forgot to delete it as I had already uploaded the ROM...
--Fixed. Kept VolServ in the ROMs because it controls a lot more than just sounds. [Herman Finger] The following sounds seem to not work: MiniSD card insert and remove, and Charger connected and removed. It actually is controlled by Palm's Volume control service (the little pop-up volume window that open on the top left), which I had removed in Hermann Finger.
--Fixed from Fjtorsol's kitchen. [Hermann Classic] 2 battery bars. Tried automating showing the clock up top, but for some reason it doesn't like me
--[Hermann Finger]The ALT key symbols window still has the redraw bug, just use D-pad to select. I fixed that as well while working on Real Power button, and I admit, I forgot the change I did :/
--[Hermann Finger Consumer ROM]Input Panel shortcut is gone, which means you can't edit typing options
FAQs, How to's, and more
Q: So explain to me the Sleep of Death
A: Existent in some WM 6.5 builds, even for other devices, Sleep of Death occurs when you power off the phone either via software or the Red Button, and the phone cannot power on in any way whatsoever, power button, plugging it in, etc. Currently, I have not experienced this in Build 23563, but in Builds 21901/21915. This is probably solved by my battery polling customization, although if it persists, disable auto turn-off for either battery or AC, or you'll have to change your brightness setting due to Palm's Backlight bug. Do note that my Treo's have worked past their service life, and their batteries are less the capacity than they used to be.
Q: What is the Backlight bug?
A: Existent even in Palm's OEM ROMs, the backlight bug is when you have your brightness set to 2, sometimes even 3 (The backlight is rated by 0 - 10, 0 being off, and 10 being the brightest). The Backlight bug occasionally refuses to put the device on standby (more often when plugged into AC), or even turn off the backlight. This is a hardware problem because if you set your Brightness to 2, and put the device on standby when running on battery, you can turn on the device again if you toggle the ringer switch (the switch on the top of the phone). This is a persistent hardware bug, which existed on all the 4 Treo's I have touched so far. (it's how I turn on my keyboard-less Treo)
Q: Can you do ____ language?
A: All my ROM's support multiple languages (although I have never tried making ones other than English). All I would need is the Palm OEM ROM of the language that you want done, then we'll see.
Q: What Kitchen did you use?
A: I use OSKitchen Zero.
Q: Will you upload your kitchen?
A: As you may have heard, there's a ridiculous bandwidth limit on the wireless carrier I currently use (800MB). My kitchen folder reaches 2.02GB (size, not size on disk), and uploading that is now impossible. Even if I separate the parts into individual folder, it's still going to add up to much more than 800MB. So sorry, the idea of uploading my kitchen was only in the event I could not continue. Well, I've gone as far as completed
Q: What happened to Build 21915?
A: It had a fatal bug that would not load some programs, notably .Net CF programs.
Q: Build 21901 help! How do I get rid of that second battery bar?
A: Go to Clocks & Alarms in Start ->Settings->, and then tap that "more" tab, and then check "Display the Clock on the title bar in all programs"
Q: Why can't we tap the Start icon in WM6.5.3?
A: Basically, it's the fault of Palm's OEM today plugin "Active call". This plugin is responsible for the handling of calling-related features of the Treo, from the dialer skin, to the today-screen Softkey options, to the speakerphone activation, to anything that displays call information. Why it interferes with 6.5.3 is best explained in detail. As you may not have known, Windows Mobile is an interesting platform in one respect because of how highly customizable it is. The Palm designed OS is layered like this:
--- <-Palm Active Call Today Plugin
--- <-WM Today theme skin
--- <-Underlying OS
As you can see, Palm's Active Call plugin is covering the Today theme in who handles what the user touches. So when we click on the Start icon, it looks like we pressed it, but we didn't because Palm's plugin is designed for WM5/6, which has a normal softkey bar at the bottom. Their Left Softkey is overlapping the Start icon, so to the OS, we are pressing that spot on the UI, but Palm's plugin is intercepting what it launches by launching nothing, since it was programmed to not launch anything at those coordinates linked to the OS. This can be easily seen by tapping on the xTask icon, and then tap on the Start icon.
Q: So why did you make the Start menu faster and 4 columns?
A: Well, I was a big fan of that start menu layout changer I got here at XDA-devs, but it didn't work on our Treo's. I don't know why it doesn't work, as it works on my hx2415, but I set out to manually edit the Start menu myself. While I will maintain the secret of what I believe made it faster, I decided a 4 column layout was best because, with a 3 column layout, it takes longer to scroll because our screens are about 2.5 inches, which is really not a lot of real estate for the primary scrolling finger (our thumbs). So if you are wondering why it lags a bit, that's because you are seeing 8 full icons and 2 half icons, compared to only 6 in the 3 column layout, and the device scales the icons depending on their default size (program dependent).
Q: Can you take out ____ program?
A: Due to my lame internet connection, I can't be doing things that could break 1 person's functionality, while helping 1 person's desire. I try to do a ROM that works for the general user, and not for a power user like me (It's why I didn't see the SMS tone bug until later, because I didn't care for that :S)
Q: Huh? XPR compression?
A: ROM's are loaded onto a device in 3 types, a non-compressed ROM image, a compressed ROM image, and a Super compressed ROM image. non-compressed uses up a large amount of space, a compressed image (XPR) uses about half the space available to the Treo, and a Super compressed (LZX) image uses even less space. These of course, have their drawbacks. Uncompressed ROM images uses up a whole lot of space, but is quick to access the Windows Mobile parts. XPR is compressed to fit in a reasonable amount of space, and is a bit slower to access than uncompressed. LZX is tightly compressed, and while you use up even less space, the ROM is very tightly packed in that the CPU needs a little more extra time to read WM elements of the OS. An example is like this, between XPR and LZX, say you have a box, and you put things in it. If you stuff it with as much as you can to save space (LZX), you may have saved space, but trying to get things inside that box will take a little more extra digging. With a more tidy stuffing of the box (XPR), if you properly set things inside the box, accessing the things inside will be much quicker.
Q: Explain to me "Big Storage".
A: I made a graphic explaining this, but basically, Big Storage is the removal of the ExtendedROM partition that exists in the HTC devices during the Hermes era. The ExtROM is what holds Carrier-specific settings/bloatware that you see in the Palm OEM ROMs. This is a problem with Custom ROMs, because we use the "unbranding" procedure to delete the stuff in the ExtROM, but the partition itself is not deleted. This is where Big Storage comes in. Big Storage has no record of the ExtROM whatsoever, so it re-formats the rest of the available storage as one whole Storage space for the user to use. I have seen this have a great boost in speed with the Operating System, as the device no longer has to mount (and hide) another partition on the Flash chip. So far no other ROM besides my Hermann series has been able to do this.
Great to hear! looking forward to seeing how you get along =)
waiting for first beta release!
So, a little update, ironically enough because internet on my phone is down so I decided to use expensive tethering to let everyone know I'm still alive XD
I'm glad I decided to take a working keyboard from my good Treo and put it in the bad Treo, my repaired Radio antenna had to be re-repaired so now I can leave the keyboard on there (still did not get replacement keyboard). That gave me a chance to test the buttons on my WM6.5 build, and the "Alt" key works, and brings up the symbols list. Red phone button still does not work (don't worry, I do know why), also I realized the Phone Settings is still there, just need to re-work the shortcut to point to it. Still trying to solve the SD card problem, so now I need to raid Nav's post history lol.
Edit: Nav's post history needs to be searched by not just his posts, I even need to read if others replied to him. If anyone can help me out and remember or able to see what it is that causes the Sd card problem, I'd really appreciate it (my connection is timed -_-)
Hey guys, I got a great story to tell.
You guys might not know me very well, I mean, I rarely posted here before, but if I had to say something about me, it's that I'm not the type of person to ask help on how to do something, if I can do it myself. Well, last night, I tried and tried, and even dunked myself into bed and immediately fell asleep (narrowly escaping catching a cold because of no blanket lol), but I persevered, and now look what I have done!
That's right, build 23563! Better than Mietas' ROM because tapping the start menu works, but just like Mietas' ROM, closing Messenger with the lower right corner close button still freezes the program. And... since I have been using Nav's badly configured files (no offense Nav), the SD card bug remained. There was even the camera bug, and the WM player that never was. I didn't give up though, thanks to Mietas' discontinued ROM project, I have craftily taken his romhdr.bin and stuck it into my kitchen. I also realized why the Camera didn't work and why WM Player was gone. Now, I present to you, the first real working WM 6.5 Rom for our Treo 750's!
"Gee whiz mangatron, you went back in time? How is that the best working WM 6.5?" you say? Well, look here!
See that? It's the Palm OEM applications running! I can make calls, send TXT messages and recieve them, you can hang up calls and, you can POWER OFF the phone! Brightness setting via Fn+p works too! Yahoo! That's not it though! The SD Card can now be recognized, the Camera works, and WM Player is back again! Absolutely the best WM6.5 for our Treo's yet!
But there's still more. See, as much as a noob that I am, I hadn't realized until build 23563 on why the Palm OEM stuff wasn't running. You see, I already knew why Nav's ROM couldn't hang up or power off. Thanks to my older brother for testing this when he had my Treo, the today plugins "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" are Palm programs, that, one or the other (or both combined) control brightness setting, hanging up, keypad dialer, speakerphone enabler, etc. PRetty much all phone functions were handled by these 2 today plugins. When Nav took them out, it killed his phone functionality. I knew that without these, nothing will work the way I want it to. I didn't do this alone. If it weren't for Nav and Mietas for trying before me, I could have never learned how to cook, and most importantly, I would have never had tried 6 months ago had I gotten a new phone then.
Now, I hope everyone understands why I didn't upload it yet (expensive tethering is the only way to safely upload without risk getting cut off). There are also other reasons why, namely, how I found out why build 23563 didn't have my Palm OEM's. You see, during the cooking process, I noticed I had a lot of bad lines in the RGU file for the Palm OEM APPS package. So everytime I flashed my rom, I didn't see the Palm today plugins because by default, the registry turned them off! So I installed SKtools, enabled them, and boom, working Treo. So, if everyone is fine with manually turning on these 2 plugins by themselves, then okay, version 1 here we go! Except, I need to tell more about this ROM. You see, because I took some .bin files from Mietas' ROM, my build is now slow like his. Well, it's not laggy I-want-to-freeze slow, it's just, think back to WM5. If you had the Treo with WM5 before, you'll know what I mean. When you tap stuff it would like peel or what I like to call "blink". The problem could be because I set the page pool to 4MB (known to save RAM, but slow down multiple program usage), so I will try with a page pool of 6MB. That's basically the only caveat, actually. The rom is a tiny bit slow, but if you can live with that, and want a real working WM6.5 now, then I'll see. I have planned to tether this coming Monday or Tuesday GMT +8 (that is, Hong Kong time), so who knows, I may even pull a Spiattie here and provide both a Classic (21915) and Touch (23563) versions!
Note to Roberto: Luckily, Keyguard can be disabled. But I have not installed S2U to see if that will lock on power down (even with Keyguard disabled, the Red button can still power off). Let me know if S2U can lock when the device goes to standby, right now I am so excited to have finally helped out XDA when it comes to the Treo 750!
good work! i'm waiting for classic version!
hey great work!!! is there anyway you can make your perfect working wm6.5 rom with wm6.5.3, its just that wm6.5.3 looks so awesome!!!!!! but more than anything thanks for your effort i think you are the only remaining chef for our treo, but there is still this problem of titanium i know that ytou just started and thats why you havent added it but, whenever you add it there may be some problems that you may need to deal with, still this is the best rom i have seen so far and i can live without titanium, oh and about the s2u i dont see any need to install it right now as the normal lock button is working, but still it looks pretty cool maybe we should just put the download link next to the rom, as some people may not like it
the biggest problem at either some people may not like an app, they may want more memory instead of the app, or it is a pain in the ass trying to update that app later.
and about the wm6.5.3 maybe could you leave the fonts as they are? is just that in wm6.5.3 when you open a list the letters are just to big also when you open a menu and as our treos screen is so small... maybe it could be wm6.5.3 with wm6.5 fonts for menus and lists
if pics dont show here are the links
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/mangatron/?action=view&current=21915-2.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/i/201008080432440005111g.jpg/sr=1
maybe im going a bit to fast but i tend to go directly to the point when speaking sorry if im asking to much
Roberto 1234 said:
hey great work!!! is there anyway you can make your perfect working wm6.5 rom with wm6.5.3, its just that wm6.5.3 looks so awesome!!!!!! but more than anything thanks for your effort i think you are the only remaining chef for our treo, but there is still this problem of titanium i know that ytou just started and thats why you havent added it but, whenever you add it there may be some problems that you may need to deal with, still this is the best rom i have seen so far and i can live without titanium, oh and about the s2u i dont see any need to install it right now as the normal lock button is working, but still it looks pretty cool maybe we should just put the download link next to the rom, as some people may not like it
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Believe me buddy, you are not asking too much. My regret right now is that I cannot upload right now, and that if only I had done this 6 months ago Treo users wouldn't have had to wait for so long to have WM6.5 on our phones.
Some things I need to clear up, lol the reason why the Palm plugins "Active call" and "Dial Lookup" were disabled in my tests builds, is because Titanium overwrote their registry settings because, whenever Titanium is enabled, no other plugins can run on the today screen. So I had to take out Titanium for good, just so that the Palm plugins can run.
About S2U, you're right about RAM, WM6.5.3 uses up more by default (my suspicion is the Theme), so including it would probably make only 20MB RAM available lol.
and about the wm6.5.3 maybe could you leave the fonts as they are? is just that in wm6.5.3 when you open a list the letters are just to big also when you open a menu and as our treos screen is so small... maybe it could be wm6.5.3 with wm6.5 fonts for menus and lists
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You know, I'm glad you asked me about this. This is controlled by the .tsk file and the .png images that make up the Classic Blue today theme. As long as I reconfigure the .tsk file (not sure if my WM5 skinning program can support WM6.5.3) and edit the images into a smaller size (should work, I did a little test and the menu now looks like just a slightly larger WM6 menu), it will be usable.
Really want to upload now >___<
well as long as it works fine, and has wm6.5.3 i dont really need titanium
Post #2 contains my changelog for now, as you can see I'm really working on the bugs right now. As of this moment, all bugs have been taken care of except the memory leak, but man I really need that keyboard replacement. It's tough always flashing via USB...
i have an 4gb micro sd but not a converter... -.- thats why i always flash via usb, i think it is safer and more easy to use
i cant wait to see the wm6.5.3 build its just so awesome!
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Roberto 1234 said:
i have an 4gb micro sd but not a converter... -.- thats why i always flash via usb, i think it is safer and more easy to use
i cant wait to see the wm6.5.3 build its just so awesome!
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A micro SD adapter, huh. Dealextreme.com has it for dirt cheap (with free shipping), although I had problems with the adapter. I tried my 16GB Micro SD with a more reliable adapter, and both builds are able to read it. Really cool how my projects have come along.
I also updated posts 1 and 2 with more info and teaser screens. Enjoy and Monday-Tuesday is going to be a great day! (hopefully Monday)
awesome, they all look so cool great work! XD
i have one quetion, the other devices with wm6.5 what do they use for calling, maybe in the titanium build it wouyld be possible to use that app
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YEEEEAAAAHH! Final bug destroyed (could not configure SMS tone). Expect release in several hours.
Roberto 1234 said:
i have one quetion, the other devices with wm6.5 what do they use for calling, maybe in the titanium build it wouyld be possible to use that app
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Hmm? I did not include Titanium in any build. It just wouldn't work (probably because I never looked into it an focused on the Red button more)
All calling related features of the Treo are handled by the Palm OEM applications, with the exception of SMS related features.
By the way, do you guys use MMS often? I just realized my ROMs do not have this capability (I never used MMS, too expensive). I could include an MMS program...
nah, i never use even sms, if needed i can download an mms app, so doint worry about it right now, most of us use this work phone for music and games (wich i think is stupid -.-) but anyway, i dont think we use it to much.
o and about the titanium maybe on another build, as the red button is working maybe the calling app that navs rom already has could be an alternative, but right now i cant wait for wm6.5.3 roms release!
An early christmas present for all
ROM's have been uploaded, posts 1, 2, and 3 have been updated. Enjoy, and if you can, donate, if not, hitting the Thanks button is fine I guess.
By the way, did you know that it's possible to have Manual Focus for the Treo's camera? Yes, it does actually work, and I'll show more later!
I forgot to add, do post here whatever problems you encounter. With as many WM programs as there are, I of course have no idea if they all work on my builds. I also do not have the Spectec Wifi card, so I don't even know if that will work on my builds. I am interested to know if it works.
geart work, thanks it looks so awesome, ill try them out!

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