Is my SD card dying or could it be my ROM ? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Using Emonthers 2.10.1
Im getting AWFUL battery life. Typically in previous roms id get a 5% per hour drop on idle.
Usually by late afternoon say 4-6 hours of usage id be in the 65 or 70 range.
During that same time frame Im now at 30-40. Within an hour or so of taking it off charger im at 80%.
NOW.
I noticed numerous instances specifically when I open Astro or Advanced Task Killer there bottom portion has a loading circle which never stops.
Numerous folks at NewEgg have complained about the sd card crapping out on them so now Im worried it may be happening to me.
And yes..I will try another rom just deciding which. Need to know if this is a tell tale sign of a dying sd card.

The bottom portion in these apps is for ads. If they don't load - means you probably have no network access.
My idle drop with this ROM (and most of ROMs I've ever tried) is between 1% and 1.5% an hour, with data or WiFi connected. You should check, what eats you so much battery, in battery settings.

Jack_R1 said:
The bottom portion in these apps is for ads. If they don't load - means you probably have no network access.
My idle drop with this ROM (and most of ROMs I've ever tried) is between 1% and 1.5% an hour, with data or WiFi connected. You should check, what eats you so much battery, in battery settings.
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Hmm.. I think you are right about the ads. My titanium backup installed Adblocker I didnt realize it till you mentioned it. Thank you .
My only changed from last rom were Mixzing and data counter widget. I will look into those individually for any possible battery abuse.
Oh and I ran a SD card diagnostic. Free app only could do "reads" but it came out aok.
http://www.flashmemorytoolkit.com/
Does a speedtest for those interested.

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Another battery moaning thread

I have read a load of threads relating to the battery life, but this is slightly different. I'm on jm1 official and have been for weeks, its was fine until a day ago, now I'm sitting at work, watching the battery percentage go down everytime i look at it, I'm now talking about now when I'm using 3g, just when phones idle.
I went to sleep last night and unplugged phone before I did, fully charged. Woke up and it was on 94%....
Really my question is, is there any way to find out what's using all my battery apart from the built in function which seems to only refresh every hour! I'm not looking for juice defender or such apps
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sensi_ said:
I have read a load of threads relating to the battery life, but this is slightly different. I'm on jm1 official and have been for weeks, its was fine until a day ago, now I'm sitting at work, watching the battery percentage go down everytime i look at it, I'm now talking about now when I'm using 3g, just when phones idle.
I went to sleep last night and unplugged phone before I did, fully charged. Woke up and it was on 94%....
Really my question is, is there any way to find out what's using all my battery apart from the built in function which seems to only refresh every hour! I'm not looking for juice defender or such apps
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Spare parts can give you, sometimes, some rough approximations. Really, if you started experiencing issues one day, you should try to remember what you downloaded most recently, it might be poorly coded and you should look to replace it with competing software.
Also, there are somethings you wouldn't want to intentionally or unintentionally leave running in the background. Use task manager (not ATK cuz it doesn't track "running" processes very well unless they've updated) to find out if anything is running. Even the marketplace will run in the background and not let your phone properly sleep.
Also, 6 percent seems about right. 2% for all services and 3g off, 6% for 3g? I'll have to look into it when I'm not on my phone. Especially if you dress your batteries by running them down to 0s%, this is bad to do to li-on batteries, I don't know how long it takes to feel the effects but short cycles are better for the batteries health.
Ok, 3g is never on at my house I can't get it there anyway.
The only reason I run it down to 0% is because I'm using my phone and it doesn't last, its stupid to say use it in low cycles because then I'm really only getting 20% battery life anyway...
I have advanced task manager but don't really use it from what ive read I shouldn't have to. And I had thought about the recent apps I've installed and I have installed nothing much new apart from angry birds
Just not happy with the noticeable change in the space of a few days.
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c'mon, my phone drops like 10% every night. once even 30%, i've grown to live with it.
be glad you're only dropping 6% really. lol.
Adevem said:
c'mon, my phone drops like 10% every night. once even 30%, i've grown to live with it.
be glad you're only dropping 6% really. lol.
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If consumers keep "living" with things then they deserve the crap they get. As a consumer, you have the right to be heard so make sure the people you're giving your hard earned cash to is taking your feedback and providing products and services for YOUR needs, not the company's needs.
I'm loosing 10% every night too. It's a joke and I'm hoping the updates will improve it somewhat.
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If consumers keep "living" with things then they deserve the crap they get. As a consumer, you have the right to be heard so make sure the people you're giving your hard earned cash to is taking your feedback and providing products and services for YOUR needs, not the company's needs.
I'm loosing 10% every night too. It's a joke and I'm hoping the updates will improve it somewhat.
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ye i know. but funny thing is, it's rather random. with the same settings and nothing changed at all. sometimes overnight, it drops close to none. and some nights, it drops 10%.
i've lost 10% over 4 hours today with no usage (idle) so lol. i'm glad i'm at least getting 2 days worth of usage.
let's hope this famous froyo does something. sometime soon...
Make sure all applications are dead (ie. use samsung task manager).
Turn off apn (so that you can guarantee no apps are using data).
If you do those two things, I'm sure you won't lose more than 5% overnight.
Personally, if I do that, I don't lose more than 1% overnight.
maybe it's due to over-flashing and all. de-calibrates the battery or whatever. either way, meh.
i've probably only got this calender widget refreshing itself every 12 hours to update the day's events and my Google account on active sync. maybe some applications screwing up somewhere.
to point out, a fresh flash always gave me no problems with battery draining. (after "re-calibrating")
just updated my phone to the TEST firmware JPJG8 which is currently the latest one available thru kies which includes arabic, and have seen no changes from the original firmware the phone came with ( Originally bought from Abu Dhabi with whatever firmware that had the android market not being available )
toying with juice defender for 2-3 days my SGS laged like hell even with the RyanZ lag fix OCLF from the market and it said that i saved 1.5% more juice tho i didnt see any diff with batt, it still drained fast (full charge overnight + extra charge with phone off on my way from home to work and starting @ 100% once leaving my car and ending @ 30-20% in the afternoon about 4-5pm, need to charge a little more if i wanted it to last till 10pm T_T )
deleted it today and thought why not simply use the extended control widgets to disable the connection when the screen was off + switch off the auto sync, like how the program did but manually and amazingly batt life felt like a big nasty battery i felt the diff immediatly.
kept the program juice plotter to see how steep the batt was used to compare the results.
1. keeping my phone on 2g almost all the time except for when i need to browse the net/use msn on phone - i do use facebook/twit and i might be missing the fast notifications but 2g is good with those 2 and battery life sure is extended as i can see.
2. closing the apn when locking the phone and bringing it up when screen is on is a great idea and u can almost instantly tell ur battery life is better
3. keeping screen off as much as possible helped my batt too tho i dont like it but it works.
really noticed a diff in battery usage today so im currently backing up the phone and after a fresh format/restore session will apply root and OCLF and keep you all posted on how long the battery lasts using this method
will test for 2-3 days before reporting again.
Current Battery stat killers are
1.loads of calls
2.display due to a large amount of sms's
see you again after my test in a couple of days
I don't think jg8's a test though unless it's a new rev by kies. used it a month back, pretty awesome but I've switched.
heading to bed now, shall see what happens tonight! such adventure and excitement every night.
mazroui said:
just updated my phone to the TEST firmware JPJG8 which is currently the latest one available thru kies which includes arabic, and have seen no changes from the original firmware the phone came with ( Originally bought from Abu Dhabi with whatever firmware that had the android market not being available )
toying with juice defender for 2-3 days my SGS laged like hell even with the RyanZ lag fix OCLF from the market and it said that i saved 1.5% more juice tho i didnt see any diff with batt, it still drained fast (full charge overnight + extra charge with phone off on my way from home to work and starting @ 100% once leaving my car and ending @ 30-20% in the afternoon about 4-5pm, need to charge a little more if i wanted it to last till 10pm T_T )
deleted it today and thought why not simply use the extended control widgets to disable the connection when the screen was off + switch off the auto sync, like how the program did but manually and amazingly batt life felt like a big nasty battery i felt the diff immediatly.
kept the program juice plotter to see how steep the batt was used to compare the results.
1. keeping my phone on 2g almost all the time except for when i need to browse the net/use msn on phone - i do use facebook/twit and i might be missing the fast notifications but 2g is good with those 2 and battery life sure is extended as i can see.
2. closing the apn when locking the phone and bringing it up when screen is on is a great idea and u can almost instantly tell ur battery life is better
3. keeping screen off as much as possible helped my batt too tho i dont like it but it works.
really noticed a diff in battery usage today so im currently backing up the phone and after a fresh format/restore session will apply root and OCLF and keep you all posted on how long the battery lasts using this method
will test for 2-3 days before reporting again.
Current Battery stat killers are
1.loads of calls
2.display due to a large amount of sms's
see you again after my test in a couple of days
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Adevem said:
I don't think jg8's a test though unless it's a new rev by kies. used it a month back, pretty awesome but I've switched.
heading to bed now, shall see what happens tonight! such adventure and excitement every night.
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jg8 isn't a new rev, it was out for a while and cant be found without using the ctrl+alt+u+p (and if that = test then its not an official release) at the firmware update in kies, its a middle east version with arabic support.
ok impressions on how things went.......
voice calls = 49% with 1H 13M 23Sec
Display = 35% with 5H 0M 9Sec
Cell standby = 7% with 16H 58M 44Sec
Phone idle = 4% with 11H 58M 34Sec
Android System = 3% with 42M 30Sec on CPU Usage and just 20Sec on CPU foreground
batt did last a full day for me i guess ending @ 6% when i got home
but what use is trying to save the batt life when i hardly use the phone
lets say i browsed the net for a 30min-1hour session, watched a few youtube video's/even downloaded video's for that matter or played a game or 2 for like 30 mins to an hour
ofcourse the display will be the major batt sucker by doing this and i doubt it would last an afternoon if i did so in the morning/noon time
I guess my only solution would be an extra batt or 2 for that matter if i really wanna show-off the phone and enjoy it fully for a full day. But the problem would be charging them all without a phone stand with extra batt charger
Anyways, does the batt last a full day for me , yes it does
am i satisfied doing what i did to make the batt last , N O
I got sick of my battery running out at around 3pm at work every day so I've now bought 2 extra batteries and an external charger from spider-foot.com
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Well, greetings to all.
I just wanted to share my experience regarding the battery issue.
As I purchased the phone some 12 days ago, my experience is short, but somewhat effective.
First couple of days the battery lasted for app. 24h, with lots of usage (wi-fi surfing, lots of applications installation, calls, games, music, etc.). Then, I installed some "battery-indicator-related app", fully charged battery and used the phone for 15 minutes or so and went to sleep. In the morning my battery was at 80% !(it was on stand-by the whole night), and till 2pm it was at 15%, without using the phone at all.
Battery usage stated 64% "cell standby". I thought - what the .... ?
Than I did the next thing.
Uninstalled that crappy app, installed another one (similar, but other manufacturer),turned off the phone, fully charged it, turned it on, checked that wi-fi and BT are off, turned off 3G and syncs and updates, set brightness to lowest, installed black wallpaper, used task killer to kill all unwanted apps, and decided to see for how long will battery last with that settings and very little usage (couple of calls, sms and some sudoku playing).
The result:
4 days, 18 hours - since unplugged. Battery at 39%.
@ some of your replies
overflashing - ive only flashed once.
be lucky it only drops 6% when totally idle - the whole point in writing this thread was because ive previous lost 0%! when idle for hours and hours...
I have background data off (which i dont want to have to do) i have an APN switch which i use sometimes, but tbh its tedious and i shouldnt have to do this.
as far as im concerned, when i idle the phone, it shouldnt do ANYTHING

Battery only last me 7 hours :(

I have a nexus one running stock and I cant get through a day of battery power. if im lucky maybe it can last me 8hrs is it common? I have wifi off bluetooth off I dont have live wallpapers or widgets running. Also seems like either tmo or htc devices dont get good reception my hd2 & N1 always switch from 3g to edge like every minute sucks.
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Mine can last 8 hours with heavy usage, how old is your Nexus One?
Pay attention to running services and processes, use a task killer to find out what applications are running automatically and consuming much CPU.
houzuoguo said:
Mine can last 8 hours with heavy usage, how old is your Nexus One?
Pay attention to running services and processes, use a task killer to find out what applications are running automatically and consuming much CPU.
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I bought it on ebay the user said he had it for less than 3 months so im assuming maybe 4 months old. I have only emails running auto 2 are normal 1 exchange for work. I maybe use 30 min of calling few emails and maybe 50 sms and 1 hour to 2 of web browsing and also 2 hours of music. I was thinking of under clocking the phone to 600 to see if it gets better.
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Get memory optimizer from market and set it to moderate settings, should help.
Good luck.
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Check if you have the stock battery. I have 2 extra batteries I've bought off eBay, one of them can last me between 10-14 hours moderate usage like yourself, and the other about 7-10 hours (sucks!). The battery that came with my phone lasts between 24-36 hours (I know, huge range but it really depends on how I use it.)
S_Dot said:
Get memory optimizer from market and set it to moderate settings, should help.
Good luck.
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Thanks I will give it a try
KAwAtA said:
Check if you have the stock battery. I have 2 extra batteries I've bought off eBay, one of them can last me between 10-14 hours moderate usage like yourself, and the other about 7-10 hours (sucks!). The battery that came with my phone lasts between 24-36 hours (I know, huge range but it really depends on how I use it.)
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I have the stock battery Im going to buy the 1600 mAh power battery from sedio see if it works
houzuoguo said:
Mine can last 8 hours with heavy usage, how old is your Nexus One?
Pay attention to running services and processes, use a task killer to find out what applications are running automatically and consuming much CPU.
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mine dont last long at all i got mine 1 year ago or less....and um i dont run apps or setting is disable running 2.2.1 cyanogen mod 6.1.1 and really battery sucks what apps do you use to check all and stuff???suggestion???
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Thanks I will give it a try
I have the stock battery Im going to buy the 1600 mAh power battery from sedio see if it works
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I tried that battery back in April and found it no better than the stock battery, even after conditioning. It's sat in my spares box somewhere and I kept using stock.
My stock battery's at 68% after 12 hours today (not heavy usage). My heaviest usage is on work days and I have desktop docks at home and work to top up the charge where necessary.
CodeMonkey said:
I tried that battery back in April and found it no better than the stock battery, even after conditioning. It's sat in my spares box somewhere and I kept using stock.
My stock battery's at 68% after 12 hours today (not heavy usage). My heaviest usage is on work days and I have desktop docks at home and work to top up the charge where necessary.
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Hopefully gingerbread update makes it better I hate carrying batteries around. Maybe I should just buy a normal htc battery
What apps top your battery status list for usage?
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Monkey see, monkey do.
Also, try to take the SD out and test the phone for a day without external memory.
You might have a corrupt multimedia file on the SD card, happened to me not a week ago. The battery would last about 8-10 h, while it usually lasts for the whole day with about a third to spare at the end.
If that doesn't help, then go to the market, and get "Usage Timelines Free". It's an app that shows recent CPU usage in the notification area. When you notice high usage, select the notification and see what app is hogging the system. You might want to do Preferences->Start at system startup, and also Sort->CPU Usage before that happens.
The indication of something not being right with multimedia files is an abnormal activity of Android System which you could also notice at the end of the day in android's Settings->About phone->Battery use. This menu logs battery usage since last unplugged, so remember to check before you plug in the phone. About 10 to 20 minutes of "CPU total" for 8 hours since unplugged, is a normal amount of usage for Android System, alot above this value is suspicious.
There, some pointers. Took me a while to figure this out.
pikipirs said:
Also, try to take the SD out and test the phone for a day without external memory.
You might have a corrupt multimedia file on the SD card, happened to me not a week ago. The battery would last about 8-10 h, while it usually lasts for the whole day with about a third to spare at the end.
If that doesn't help, then go to the market, and get "Usage Timelines Free". It's an app that shows recent CPU usage in the notification area. When you notice high usage, select the notification and see what app is hogging the system. You might want to do Preferences->Start at system startup, and also Sort->CPU Usage before that happens.
The indication of something not being right with multimedia files is an abnormal activity of Android System which you could also notice at the end of the day in android's Settings->About phone->Battery use. This menu logs battery usage since last unplugged, so remember to check before you plug in the phone. About 10 to 20 minutes of "CPU total" for 8 hours since unplugged, is a normal amount of usage for Android System, alot above this value is suspicious.
There, some pointers. Took me a while to figure this out.
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Thanks everyone for the pointer and your replies first thing tomorrow I will try to see how much it can last me without plugging the phone to a charger see if it was just me not having the right set up. Yeah cpu usage seems a bit tricky to figure out I also notice calendar was running 20MB which is weird because I dont sync my calendar any more.
You can also check out SetCPU (on the market, or the nag-ware version on XDA) - I have mine set to ondemand for normal use, and a profile to clock it down to ~400Mhz when the screen is off. Makes a huge difference in battery life and you can tweak it to your needs.
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You can also check out SetCPU (on the market, or the nag-ware version on XDA) - I have mine set to ondemand for normal use, and a profile to clock it down to ~400Mhz when the screen is off. Makes a huge difference in battery life and you can tweak it to your needs.
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I not able to use it since my phone its not root it yet can you set the cpu with out rooting the device?

[Q] Apex 5.2 Rapid Battery Death

Over the past few weeks, I've been running Apex 5.2. I love it. The phone is faster than ever and my test show a 129% increase in battery life. That's why this afternoon's events took me off guard.
After sending a series of text messages, I left my phone on my desk for 39 minutes, silenced. The batter registered 43% when I put it down. When I returned, the battery had dropped to 6% and the phone had jumped from the norm of 89 degrees F to 116. I checked the apps to see what was running;
gTabSiMiClock
ChompSMS Notifications/Backlight single, three second power-up/Basic, single vibration)
Tag Launcher 2.2
Facebook (Notifications/No backlight/No vibrations)
Gmail (No notifications/No backlight/No vibrations)
This is the first time this has happened. I doubt these apps have the power to suck down that much battery life in that amount of time, as I have been using most of them on a daily basis. The only change I have made is the background (Image/not live).
Am I wrong, or should I be looking for other problems elsewhere?
Well I can't tell you exactly what the problem is, but I have had instances where my battery heated up a lot. Usually a reboot will keep it under control. That is a very alarming battery drain, though.
Have you checked for the 50% battery thing?
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Have you checked for the 50% battery thing?
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50% battery thing???
@OP not sure what happened buddy as this is a instance which cannot even be reproduced, coz as u said battery was better all the time barring this instance. However to get maximum support u may want to report all ur problems in the ROM thread..
The 50% time without signal. From multiple articles on xda, it's not rom related, it's an android problem.

Milestone RC4 CM7 nadlabak draining battery FAST

Hey guys,
I'm running the latest release from nadlabak, 04.10 one.
I experienced battery issues on some previous releases as well, however i don't know if it's this release or what, but the battery usage is draining very fast!
I am not really running anything, I have liveprofile auto memory manager, and handset sms. liveprofile doesnt even really run, i barely use it so it should be either in the background or not running.
i looked at the battery usage stats, it shows email is using about 40% of the battery draining.
my phone is VERY warm, feels like the cpu churning through something... i can run at 52vsel with 1000mhz vrate. fine and still my battery is about 40% after 2 hours.
I reset to factory clock speeds and it drains the same if not faster!
not sure what's going on but its driving me nuts, google maps also shows to be running in the background, however i never turn it on, i reboot my phone, leave it as is and it shows maps is using 10% battery usage roughly when i havent even initiated it to be running(unless it always has a service in the background?)
i had releases from march that ran better, about 8 hours of battery life. and i believe even a april release was working fine. but now this latest release especially seems to suck up the battery, i dont know if its the releases or if something else has changed...but its very annoying holding a very WARM phone and having the battery get sucked up in 3 hours.
Looking at spare parts, does it sleep at all?
40% usage from email is high so something is wrong there but I doubt it's CM7.
Also, what AMM settings are you using?
Hi there, I'm running the following:
vmheap 40mb
amm: 6, 13, 24, 40, 51, 63.
any suggestions?
where do i find out if it sleeps, im in spare parts.
In Spare Parts, the first item is Battery History.
Go there and it will show how long your battery has been running (%) since unplugged.
If you select the top drop down list, select Partial Wake Usage to see which apps might be keeping the phone awake.
Where did you get those AMM numbers from?
I'd suggest my Balanced 3 (6-8-26-28-30-32) for a nice mix of free memory without being overly aggressive on the background apps.
If you use any of my scripts, disable AMM from having superuser permissions.
I had gotten the stats from another popular thread on this forum.
ill try your stats as well.
vmheap still 40?
also i still notice email is the one that has a huge bar graph usage on the partial usage stat page. not sure why email is being kept awake..
should i factory reset?
have you wiped cache/dalvik? If not do that.
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I had wiped the caches multiple times, tried a lot of things, everything accept a factory reset.
I did a factory reset for the hell of it, set the amm settings as requested vmheap to 40.
everything seems to be running smooth and fine at 1000mhz 54vsel
and the battery usage is at 90% while being unplugged for 7 hours, will monitor to see if the usage drops substantially later on in the night but so far i think things may be fixed.
Battery usage is nearly constant.
That's not good at all.
Something is keeping it away.
What does spare parts show now for partial wake apps?
The partial usage is like 5% now vs what was like 50%. and email isnt even probably 2%. handcent sms is taking up the 5% roughly.
its at 80% after being on battery for 8 hours 26 mins. and i have probably used it for about 30-45 mins worth of on screen time, rest idle.
Oh wait, I think I misunderstood.
You meant that you had 90% left and only 10% used up, right?
If that's the case, that's pretty amazing.
I have expirienced that if I haven't done full wipe(factory reset) my battery is drainin like a crazy. That's happing in all roms I have used. So my opinion is to apply any update or now rom on clean Milestone
how to delete apps in android
i have recently started using android on htc hd2.. i am bit annoyed with the fact that i could not unistall a few apps which i am never going to use. eg liveprofile..and it keeps starting automatically
so could anyone tell me how to remove such apps?

Phone idle and cell stand by 75%

Why does Phone idle and cell stand by use 75% of my battery??
4G is off.
What is this phone doing more then my og Droid??
How can I get longer battery life??
About 4 hours and im at 20% battery life.
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It is a fluke of the phone. Some say it is because the display uses so little power but I really don't buy that. I think the reporting is not correct.
Try this. Copy your data from your external sd card to you laptop and save it where you can find it. Take your card out and format it on your computer (fat32) if you have an adapter, if no skip to next step.
Insert card back into phone power up and format sd card in the phone. Plug phone into computer and copy the files you moved back onto the card. I found a drastic improvement by formatting my card (but I also changed it)
Make sure you have nothing running that will run your battery down. If the sd card format does not work I would exchange it. After swapping out cards and formatting I got 23 hours out of a charge on normal use (7hours idle while sleeping). I went to bed at 10:30 with 13% and woke up 7 hours later with 6 percent. I can't really ask for more.
Is it really using 75% or is that what is say under the batt stats? Right now 10% of my battery is gone and of that 10% the stats are 48% is cell standby another 48 to phone idle and 4 to the OS. I saw a mention of one of the blur apps that consumes alot of data, you should probably disable it or not use it, not sure the specific name but it was one of the social media things.
75% of battery stats from fresh to dead.
I am not using any of the social networks.
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Every Bionic shows up this way for some reason. I don't think anyone has an answer.
My Samsung eats up like 50% in idle ,and the problem is not the SD,i'd formated my SD a few days ago and no improvement
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Perhaps I am wrong, but this is how I understand this situation..
The phone tells us the distribution of power drained over uses. It also charts, over time, how much power is being drained. These are very different quantities. That can be seen with a simple example.
Suppose charge my phone while it is off. Once it his 100% battery life, I turn it on and do nothing. Let's assume I don't allow anything to update automatically or work in the background. After 1 minute of not using the phone at all, I check the battery information. More or less "100%" of the battery consumption will have been something like "cell standby" or "idle". All of the power my phone has eaten was eaten by those uses. But, that doesn't mean it ate a lot. To know how much it ate, I look at the top line graph of juice over time. These two things aren't the same.
(1) Am I glaringly wrong? (2) Does that make sense?
Caveat: new Bionic owner
ergosumcausa said:
Perhaps I am wrong, but this is how I understand this situation..
The phone tells us the distribution of power drained over uses. It also charts, over time, how much power is being drained. These are very different quantities. That can be seen with a simple example.
Suppose charge my phone while it is off. Once it his 100% battery life, I turn it on and do nothing. Let's assume I don't allow anything to update automatically or work in the background. After 1 minute of not using the phone at all, I check the battery information. More or less "100%" of the battery consumption will have been something like "cell standby" or "idle". All of the power my phone has eaten was eaten by those uses. But, that doesn't mean it ate a lot. To know how much it ate, I look at the top line graph of juice over time. These two things aren't the same.
(1) Am I glaringly wrong? (2) Does that make sense?
Caveat: new Bionic owner
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Finally. Someone who understand math. Bravo, sir, bravo.
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Finally. Someone who understand math. Bravo, sir, bravo.
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To make this more clear for anyone else. If you aren't using your phone for anything, you want "idle" to account for 100% of your use, otherwise you've got some background processes you should deal with.
So your saying that its similar to "System Idle Process" in M$ Windows task manager? That would make sense for the idle phone but what about the cell standby?
I have been wondering about the difference between the two as well. By the name they sound like they could be the same thing really. I mean the phone is standing by is it not idling as well. Or does standby mean processes that are alive in memory? Does this use power? Is this what "standby" describes?
I believe "Cell Standby" is when you phone is searching for towers. Any phone is normally constantly searching and finding towers. If I am wrong please correct me.
The IDLE is the percent of time sitting idle compared to the percent of processes actually being used like the android system processes. Once again correct me if I am wrong.

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