Warning about up and coming OTA - Droid Incredible Android Development

While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future. The almost released and then removed EVO update is extremely secure and removed ALL our exploits. Even the ones we weren't announcing. Just wanted to get this warning out. If you run it, you may be giving up root. I highly advise waiting for safe ways to update.
As soon as we finish s_off (we're getting really close) you won't have to worry about complex flashes to keep a valid signature on zip files as you'll be able to flash anything. Please be patient and wait if you care to be rooted.

Shadowmite said:
While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future. The almost released and then removed EVO update is extremely secure and removed ALL our exploits. Even the ones we weren't announcing. Just wanted to get this warning out. If you run it, you may be giving up root. I highly advise waiting for safe ways to update.
As soon as we finish s_off (we're getting really close) you won't have to worry about complex flashes to keep a valid signature on zip files as you'll be able to flash anything. Please be patient and wait if you care to be rooted.
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Thanks for the warning shadow. Glad to hear you guys are still working on s_off.
Cheers
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

As always, thanks for the heads up and for all of your team's hard work.

Appreciate the update shadowmite, thanks so much! Enjoying the leaked 2.2 rooted currently. You guys are the best!

But just one question about this, I have been holding out for the official update and not updating my radio bc i am not sure i will be able to update to official with it.
But if i update my radio now and installed a leaked rom and i found out later the official froyo is rootable, will i be able to get it with an already updated radio?
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stickysticky:
If you use one of the leaks, you can follow the tutorial in the Development forum to downgrade back to original stock software (including original radio). Shadowmite is warning people to avoid installing the official OTA which will likely update hboot, patch the vulnerabilities we used to gain root, AND prevent us from ever downgrading in the future. Scary thought.
The most important thing here is to never jump the gun, and instead, wait until Shadowmite or another reputable developer gives us the OK.
Shadowmite:
Thanks for the heads-up. VERY excited to see s_off coming soon.
Thanks for all your contributions.
Just out of curiousity, will s_off enable us to use fastboot?

Thank you sir for the heads up. I appreciate and love all the work that you guys have done for the community.
Sent from my Incredible using Tapatalk.

"who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of htc?"
"The Shadow(mite) knows" ;-)

Shadowmite said:
While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future. The almost released and then removed EVO update is extremely secure and removed ALL our exploits. Even the ones we weren't announcing. Just wanted to get this warning out. If you run it, you may be giving up root. I highly advise waiting for safe ways to update.
As soon as we finish s_off (we're getting really close) you won't have to worry about complex flashes to keep a valid signature on zip files as you'll be able to flash anything. Please be patient and wait if you care to be rooted.
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Patience always pays off
Thanks for the heads up.

Thank you for the heads up. Your advice and directions have made it easy for a noob like me to root and flash roms. I can't wait to see what you and your team come up with.
I really appreciate your hard work. Thank you.
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

Shadowmite said:
While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future. The almost released and then removed EVO update is extremely secure and removed ALL our exploits. Even the ones we weren't announcing. Just wanted to get this warning out. If you run it, you may be giving up root. I highly advise waiting for safe ways to update.
As soon as we finish s_off (we're getting really close) you won't have to worry about complex flashes to keep a valid signature on zip files as you'll be able to flash anything. Please be patient and wait if you care to be rooted.
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Thanks for the heads up, and for all the hard work!

Thanks, shadowmite and team unrEVOked...as said before, patience pays off. I def want to keep root,so I will wait.
JC

thanks for the heads up.
but question, couldn't we just downgrade hboot/radio and then just downgrade back to 2.1?

borgey420 said:
NICE!!! Thank God we have such good devs working on this device. Without you guys we would be SCREWED!
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Megadittos!

Thanks
Glad to hear that you guys are still working ... I am not going to install the beta radio and the beta 2.2 (see no reason) so close to release. Hopefully when the real radio and real 2.2 come out, you guys will be able to root it
Thanks

Shadowmite said:
While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future. The almost released and then removed EVO update is extremely secure and removed ALL our exploits. Even the ones we weren't announcing. Just wanted to get this warning out. If you run it, you may be giving up root. I highly advise waiting for safe ways to update.
As soon as we finish s_off (we're getting really close) you won't have to worry about complex flashes to keep a valid signature on zip files as you'll be able to flash anything. Please be patient and wait if you care to be rooted.
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Thank You Shadowmite
Great advice, I for one had no intention of working it anyother way!
Thank you and all of unrevolked for the enjoyment you allow me to get out of this.

ilinfinityil said:
thanks for the heads up.
but question, couldn't we just downgrade hboot/radio and then just downgrade back to 2.1?
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No, if you do upgrade your hboot than any attemt to downgrade will fail, as verizion and htc have disabled downgrades. Also it may fail if your main ver. is too high and you have no way of changing it.

binny1007 said:
No, if you do upgrade your hboot than any attemt to downgrade will fail, as verizion and htc have disabled downgrades. Also it may fail if your main ver. is too high and you have no way of changing it.
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so then technically the way outlined here ( http://androidforums.com/all-things...16-how-revert-back-earlier-version-hboot.html ) is only for this "leaked OTA" which means it's not the real thing.

Shadowmite said:
While the leaked OTA 2.2 is fine, and rooted, you might want to consider using it or sitting and waiting when the offical one hits. It's looking pretty likely that the official one will be unrootable for the near future.
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Just want to make sure I'm understanding that correctly - either:
use the leaked one now, or
sit and wait when the upgrade hits.
Just making sure.

patchmonkey said:
Just want to make sure I'm understanding that correctly - either:
use the leaked one now, or
sit and wait when the upgrade hits.
Just making sure.
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That's how I read it as well. I'd rather have root tbh, but YMMV

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help downgrading or maybe help rooting 2.1

so now that sprint officially released there update.... 2.1 software number 2.27.651.5 i can no loner put roms on my phone! i found multiple firmware but it wont install and when i go into recovery mode.... i get a phone with (!) idk what that means.... has anyone been having this problem or is there a thread for this already! thanks
No Root, No Rom.
You loaded a Sprint update, or sprint did it for you...either way. No Root yet, you are SOL.
Ideally you would have done some research first, but I don't know if you had that option....
That town hall meeting thread is making me not be a butt head.....darn you EGZ.
well thanks ill guess i gotta wait!

			
				
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Keep your eyes peeled to this thread as it seems to be the most constructive conversation on the topic. Till then, we'll be waiting for you on the other side.
So how did the rooting go any luck

Question about rooting new 2.1

Hey guys I wanted to ask a question and see what kind of feedback I get
I had a nice rooted hero but had some hardware issues and Sprint was nice enough to replace my phone
However, now I have the official 2.1 update and I know I cant root my phone again (Even though Ive tried )
My question is, I still have the unofficial RUU that was released a while back that I also used but I was able to root after that update. If I use that RUU again and install it over the official RUU, will I be able to ROOT my phone again?
Im afraid to brick my phone so all your help is greatly appreciated
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Hey guys I wanted to ask a question and see what kind of feedback I get
I had a nice rooted hero but had some hardware issues and Sprint was nice enough to replace my phone
However, now I have the official 2.1 update and I know I cant root my phone again (Even though Ive tried )
My question is, I still have the unofficial RUU that was released a while back that I also used but I was able to root after that update. If I use that RUU again and install it over the official RUU, will I be able to ROOT my phone again?
Im afraid to brick my phone so all your help is greatly appreciated
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Unfortunately, that will not work. It won't brick your phone either, because it won't let it flash the rom.
thanks for the info. that sucks. does anyone think we will be able to root the 2.1 soon? I miss my old phone..
edisonalvarez said:
thanks for the info. that sucks. does anyone think we will be able to root the 2.1 soon? I miss my old phone..
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hehe, who knows
edisonalvarez said:
thanks for the info. that sucks. does anyone think we will be able to root the 2.1 soon? I miss my old phone..
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that's the $64,000 question!
just $64,000................
we shall see when. I see Flipz has something on his website about support for 2.1
Let me pray and hope....
Thanks again guys. Love this website and the support
Wow... check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
WOW is correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flashing ROM as we speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again everyone on this website ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Thank you Regaw!!!!!!!!!!

About the OTA, you, and your phone

The reason we haven't said much on the OTA is it's not entirely official. Until it starts hitting everyones phones I wouldn't say it's released. And until then, it could change! We know the leaked OTA works with our tools still. But that doesn't mean the released one will. Once we KNOW what is final, we will make a method to update without the nonsense of ruu'ing your phones. If you wait, you will get a easier time. If you are in such a hurry to get 720p, so be it.
Yeah, I'm not really understanding why everyones rushing to get this on their phone. I'm waiting. I know once it officially hits our phones it shouldn't take long until we can patch it properly and still keep our root.
Yes, this i can wait for... a good, working froyo rom ---------- that's another story...
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Thanks for the update and of course all of your hard work, it's really awesome when devs keep the community informed as much as you guys do.
I as well was wondering why people were rushing to get this done on their phone so fast. I knew you guys would be patching it I also noticed that you guys now have an unlocked bootloader?!
http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/18736914664
full nand unlock + whatever else this can accomplish (I guess anything now) here we come!
dspero said:
Yes, this i can wait for... a good, working froyo rom ---------- that's another story...
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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A good one will come when it's released for our phones from HTC.
kentoe said:
I as well was wondering why people were rushing to get this done on their phone so fast. I knew you guys would be patching it I also noticed that you guys now have an unlocked bootloader?!
http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/18736914664
full nand unlock + whatever else this can accomplish (I guess anything now) here we come!
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I am a tweaker by heart, so I cannot sit idle, waiting. I'm not saying its a bad thing to wait, its just not for me and I am willing to take the risks.
what does unlocked bootloader mean?
It means our phones are completely unlocked and we can screw them up even easier than before.
I am currently rooted, but would like the contents of the upcoming OTA. I understand that I have to revert back to stock and unroot in order to install this update, since the new radio is what I am most excited about. Is this our only option to go about applying the update? I like having root access, but ultimately I would rather receive the OTAs that will be coming soon. Does anybody have any insight about whether or not there will be a way to install these updates in the form of a ROM without losing root, or should I just bite the bullet and unroot if this is what I ultimately want with my phone?
mickym5 said:
. Does anybody have any insight about whether or not there will be a way to install these updates in the form of a ROM without losing root, or should I just bite the bullet and unroot if this is what I ultimately want with my phone?
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That's pretty much what this post is about. Once the OTA is final and is actually being pushed, we will get a version of it that doesn't require us to go through the current process which requires us to unroot our phones.
I, for one, can wait for the rooted version of the OTA...continued thanks to the unrEVOked team for their unselfish efforts on our behalf.
JC
If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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ksizzle9 said:
If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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+1, I wonder if these guys (and girls?) ever get job offers from htc/vzw or even google. I would if I was one of those companies. Skills can be taught but passion and critical thinking can't.
ksizzle9 said:
If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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LOL. I like to think that the reason the root still worked is because HTC isn't a douche like Motorola and realized that the hackability of the phone translates to sales of the phone.
Just my opinion...
jermaine151 said:
LOL. I like to think that the reason the root still worked is because HTC isn't a douche like Motorola and realized that the hackability of the phone translates to sales of the phone.
Just my opinion...
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Sorry, no, they would be quite happy to close the hole. And with the leaks posting the plaintext method up for them recently, they will pretty quickly.
To be honest all you most likely need as opposed to these elaborate methods to unroot, is to flash stock recovery back (hint, use reflash with the ruu's recovery.img as the image you select!), and then run the leaked ota as update.zip. But again, I don't see much reason to upgrade until it's official and we determine the changes.
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Sorry, no, they would be quite happy to close the hole. And with the leaks posting the plaintext method up for them recently, they will pretty quickly.
To be honest all you most likely need as opposed to these elaborate methods to unroot, is to flash stock recovery back (hint, use reflash with the ruu's recovery.img as the image you select!), and then run the leaked ota as update.zip. But again, I don't see much reason to upgrade until it's official and we determine the changes.
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LOL... what a novel idea. Guess that why you get paid the big bucks.
Not installing the leak here. Installed leak on my eris...once bitten twice shy.
Sent from my DInc
CM6 nightly
Clockwork recovery
You will install an alpha aosp rom and not an ota?
Seems funny.
adrynalyne said:
You will install an alpha aosp rom and not an ota?
Seems funny.
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Sorry I meant the leak ota. That's where I got burned before.
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Downgrade ROM]RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.2 4H_3.35.20.10_releas

How do downgrade this ROM? Who do know? Plesase help me.
Have you searched the forums and tried this yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847443?
That is for the Chinese leaked 2.2, but it potentially may work for WWE 2.2.
I had'll tryed. But didn't work.
And the older softroot options batted about this forum are of no use either? Then you may just have to sit tight and wait for someone to find a way. When they do, you can guarantee it'll be on here and noisy.
Or have a poke, and see what you can do manually!
Who can resolve this problem or hack root this ROM? ple help
Why you want to root this rom
This 2.2 rom is smooth. It is the best rom.
I think their didn't need too root this rom
yuanvn said:
This 2.2 rom is smooth. It is the best rom.
I think their didn't need too root this rom
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It great to work. But i dont agree with you. This ROM have to root. And we are using new ROM cook. So Wait for help. I am waiting....
Do you think technical staffs of HTC done this?
dungquoc said:
Do you think technical staffs of HTC done this?
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Id seriously doubt that Htc will help you. Why would they when its them that keep changing the H-boot and making it harder to root? You must of know what was going to happen when you went and installed it. There are enough warnings on xda across all devices not to install ota or ruu updates.
I think all you can do now is wait and hope someone will root it.

[Q] How to S-OFF 2.30.405.1 (Android 2.3.3 GB)?

Hello,
First off, yes I have searched for my problem and I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but I'm getting pretty confused with everything that's going on anyway so I would like to get some answers straight to my problem.
As you can read, I am trying to get S-OFF with a
HTC Incredible S
Android: 2.3.3 (GB)
ROM: 2.30.405.1 CL88716 release-keys (<- Latest OTA Stock ROM)
HBOOT: 1.13 (.0000)
I'd also like to mention that the XTC Method is NOT an option for me.
I have read through some posts about AlphaRevX not getting root (Which is what is happening to me) But they only offer a solution for 2.12, not 2.30. I have tried following this solution anyway, but it says 'Main version is higher' or something like that.
Due to this I do have a goldcard, if this is of any help.
Is there any way for me to downgrade so I can use AlphaRevX, or any other solution to get my S-OFF, so that in the end I can install Clockwork Recovery and root my Incredible S, or do I have to wait for a new exploit?
Thanks,
Shinugen
No known solution at the moment that I've heard about. I think it's a new exploit needed unless someone finds a workaround. Hopefully the AlphaRev guys will find us something for this ROM version soon.
Okay, thanks for the information.
You can also just wait.
Sorry for the double post here, but I thought I'd post my findings for anyone else interested in this matter.
After reading some news from HTC itself (Boredom, yay?) I came across them stating that they've "Listened", and will be bringing out OTA (Over The Air) Firmware upgrades which enable you to unlock the bootloader (Thus effectively setting your phone to S-OFF.)
This will be happening around August / September.
I suppose it's a race against the clock whether XDA is quicker, or HTC.
I'll have my money on XDA. xD
Shinugen said:
Sorry for the double post here, but I thought I'd post my findings for anyone else interested in this matter.
After reading some news from HTC itself (Boredom, yay?) I came across them stating that they've "Listened", and will be bringing out OTA (Over The Air) Firmware upgrades which enable you to unlock the bootloader (Thus effectively setting your phone to S-OFF.)
This will be happening around August / September.
I suppose it's a race against the clock whether XDA is quicker, or HTC.
I'll have my money on XDA. xD
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That particular announcement did not include the Incredible S, so it will probably be later than August/September.
Shinugen said:
Sorry for the double post here, but I thought I'd post my findings for anyone else interested in this matter.
After reading some news from HTC itself (Boredom, yay?) I came across them stating that they've "Listened", and will be bringing out OTA (Over The Air) Firmware upgrades which enable you to unlock the bootloader (Thus effectively setting your phone to S-OFF.)
This will be happening around August / September.
I suppose it's a race against the clock whether XDA is quicker, or HTC.
I'll have my money on XDA. xD
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It's happening in August/September for the Sensation and eventually the EVO 3D. No announcements on whether this will happen for any other device including the Incredible S. So don't hold your breath on HTC doing it themselves.
tpbklake said:
That particular announcement did not include the Incredible S, so it will probably be later than August/September.
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HTC fail! I hope they will unlock our bootloaders. But yeah, my money is on XDA.
doctorsax said:
It's happening in August/September for the Sensation and eventually the EVO 3D. No announcements on whether this will happen for any other device including the Incredible S. So don't hold your breath on HTC doing it themselves.
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As I recall it said the bootloader will be accessable for "all devices getting such updates". You could argue about the meaning of that, though I hope they meant OTA Updates with "such updates", which would mean the HTC Incredible S is included.
Plus, if they do it for the Sensation and EVO 3D, stating "They've listened", why wouldn't they do it for the rest of us?
I suppose you're right though, lets not get our hopes up. That said, it would be nice.
S off worked for me with the incredible
This youtube video is awesome at instructing step by step on how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XshvRmAcgm8
Are you saying it didnt work because U have 2.3?
IncredibleSlover said:
S off worked for me with the incredible
This youtube video is awesome at instructing step by step on how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XshvRmAcgm8
Are you saying it didnt work because U have 2.3?
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It doesn't work with the 2.30.405.1 stock ROM, this is a well-known issue already.
just a queston,
rooting is not possible yet and we cant downgrade not even with goldcard, so there is absolutly no wey to get cyano? is thet right?
mrkekson said:
just a queston,
rooting is not possible yet and we cant downgrade not even with goldcard, so there is absolutly no wey to get cyano? is thet right?
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Short answer: Correct.
Long answer:
Rooting is not possible because the newest update has patched the exploit that was used in order to gain root access. Downgrading with a goldcard is not possible due to the Main Version check.
What you'll have to do is wait for people to discover a new exploit for this version, so that we can gain root access (Temporarily) on 2.30.405.1. If that's achieved, we can run the AlphaRevX process (Loosen te NAND lock, get S-OFF).
Once that is done you can go ahead and flash the /system (Custom ROMs) and /recovery (Cyanogen, Clockwork, etc.)
The above might not be 100% accurate but this is how I understand things.
If anyone spots a mistake, please do correct me.
-Shinugen
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Yeah, forgot to mention XTC Clips.
Read next post.
Thanks, tpbklake!
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mrkekson said:
just a queston,
rooting is not possible yet and we cant downgrade not even with goldcard, so there is absolutly no wey to get cyano? is thet right?
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If you find someone with an XTC Clip, then that hardware device can give you full S-OFF on your IncS and then you can root and install CM7.

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