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I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.
i here alot of people talking about the hero android for the htc fuze but i cant find it. i was wondering if anyone can get the software for me not the theme please
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i here alot of people talking about the hero android for the htc fuze but i cant find it. i was wondering if anyone can get the software for me not the theme please
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http://www.connect-utb.com/
For all your booting android needs, it's a pretty nice setup but I wouldn't count on it for everyday use because a few things don't work yet...
Thats the different between the RAPH, RAPH100, RAPH800, and RAPH & DIAM? I have ATT FUZE, not sure which category that falls under...
lilbluemirage said:
Thats the different between the RAPH, RAPH100, RAPH800, and RAPH & DIAM? I have ATT FUZE, not sure which category that falls under...
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I have the AT&T Fuze and I use the one in the RAPH100 category; I believe the RAPH800 is the CDMA version of the Raphael. Regarding the other categories, 'RAPH and DIAM' appears to be an outdated version (v1265 as opposed to RAPH100's v1714) and the 'RAPH' category also appears to be an outdated version (dated 2009-02-19 as opposed to RAPH100's 2009-06-21).
I honestly don't understand why the website decided to categorize the port versions in such a confusing manner.
this doesnt appear to be the hero android.. or am I just downloading the wrong thing here? I followed all the logical links and went to Raph100 and downloaded the file. Looks more like the basic android though NOT the hero Sense OS
Also... are you sure that we are suposed to use Raph100? NOTHING seems to work with the download provided.. I cant make a call no wifi, no GPS, no.. anything. In the previous version I used I was at least able to make a call.... that was like 7 months ago though
Just create an account and follow the instructions
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite
I've tried it but couldn't get it to properly work but others have, but maybe i'm just slow
Sparkz914 said:
Just create an account and follow the instructions
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite
I've tried it but couldn't get it to properly work but others have, but maybe i'm just slow
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Install PointUI. Any version will do but try the latest free version.
Install PointSenseSuite.cab
Enable the UI from Settings -> Today
Select the recently installed theme under Menu -> Customization
Install the PointSense.HomeScreen.cab.
Disable and re-enable the plugin, from Settings -> Today...
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Install PointUI. Any version will do but try the latest free version.
Install PointSenseSuite.cab
Enable the UI from Settings -> Today
Select the recently installed theme under Menu -> Customization
Install the PointSense.HomeScreen.cab.
Disable and re-enable the plugin, from Settings -> Today...
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And this is where the smart people come in to play to help us yayyyy
ok ... im a little confused .....
I have a rapheal - with NRG Rom using tf3d2. I have purchased SPB MS3, so i tend to not use TF3D anymore.
Ive had a go at Andriod (the connect-utb one) just to have a nosey - obviously it doesnt play nicely yet
This PointUI sense .... is it an overlay of WM6.5 (like TF3D) or is it a bootable OS (like Android) ?
I think my main question is .... is it the Hero OS ? or is it just a WM theme made to look like the hero OS ?
sorry if really noob question ....
PointUI is just a today plug in really.... Much like the old HTC Home or TF3D is.
But what is weird is that people make their phone look like an HTC Hero with what I posted but I have no idea how they do it
Realized I have to install a bunch of things to make it look like the Hero
the third thing you are sposed to install i cant find anywhere even on the main thread for it
Wait until tommorow, for the new release of PointSense UI.
First, install Home 2 here
Then, install Point Sense UI by following the instruction on the site.
Copied right from the site. (Make sure you have Point UI Home 2 installed first)
Install:
- Only for Point UI 2.1.0.6c or higher
- Recommend to install in clean Point UI (You must run Point UI first, accept Terms and activate before install the suite)
- Backup your Home2\Common folder to get back default home screen
- Exit Home 2
- Download cab and install (it may take a long time, because of there're many files to extract)
- Enable Home 2 again
- Select PointSense Theme (for correct color), and add the PointSenseScreen Applets.
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the third thing you are sposed to install i cant find anywhere even on the main thread for it
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one of the files is a zip that has the files needed in it
this subject was open for android, why are you guys talking about pointui? waste of data on xda...
Hmmmm.....I'm running RAPH100 on Touch Pro and it loads but refuses to accept my PIN. Can anyone help me?!
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Hmmmm.....I'm running RAPH100 on Touch Pro and it loads but refuses to accept my PIN. Can anyone help me?!
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Disabling PIN promt in winmobile help's me.
i always get stuck at the keyboard its to small lol
I started up this thread for any Kaiser user who uses, develops or does anything with Touch flo 3d Qvga (I Know there are other threads about these programs, this is to bring it into one place).
Posts on Applications, themes or anything for tf3d-qvga-3 and Touchflo 2d v 2.0 build 1919 is welcome!
Here is the kaiser D3D Driver.
If any Concerns Contact me at: [email protected]
I found a Standby App that shuts down TF3D when you power down:
Youtube App Also:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
Dukenukemx said:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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It works, it just doesn't work very well. TF3D needs the HTC-Class Action drivers, which are incompatible with all ROMS running the 101MB RAM hack. In addition, even if it does work on your ROM, a bug with the drivers prevents the device from entering standby while TF3D was enabled. A mortscript was made to disable it when the device was suspended or going to suspend, but it still took awhile and sometimes didn't work at all. Then, it would resume TF3D after waking the device, which also took awhile and intermittently worked.
There was a thread awhile back here, which put all the information in one place, so check it out if you're interested. But the way I see it, until fully working ATI Imageon/MSM7200 drivers are released for our devices, TF3D is unusable. If you want something that works well though, try the newest Manila 2d from the HTC Mega, which has the flipping clock and some of the looks of TF3D without the problems, and with this installed, it looks pretty similar.
Last nite i managed to experiment and install TF3D! on my htc tytn II, i used Unholy's Gaming Rom which doesnt have 101 ram and has D3D Drivers built in, i have to say for stuff thats experimental it does work quite well, its responsive and looks fantastic, it does take a bit to initialise once u come out of standby/sleep, but other than that i had a total ram usage of 50% used, 50% free which wasnt too bad, i think a fully working TF3D for our Kaisers is not too far away, as long as development continues, big up to da guys who have made this possible!
The problem seems to be that the drivers are in terrible shape. Doesn't work with roms using 101MB ram hack, and it won't allow the phone to go into standby.
How different is the MSM7200 vs MSM7201A? If devices using the MSM7201A chipset can run Touch Flo 3D just fine, then why can't we just take the drivers from those devices?
If someone has some experience with hacking drivers, I bet you can get those drivers working. I bet someone from Beyond3D could do it.
Some Screenshots Of Manila 2D:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
nommy76 said:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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Is This the standby program? if it is, the program doesnt like the backlight settings in. try turning them off. another way around this is to program one of the hardware keys to <none> then when the backlight turns off, push the button. it should turn the backlight back on.
it took me ages to find how to fix this problem. its painful but its worth it
Hope this Helps
Makes sense
here is a video of the new sense ui for htc touch 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhnhrdYP0I
Background to all pages
Background for all tabs
I havent tested this yet...but here is the download
BG all pages
thx but after installed it, it doesn't work its ok i'll satisfied with my TF3D v3 now...the stand_by also work very well so now my bat last longer...hope i could post all the cab files n some images of my Kaiser...
TF3D on htc tyTn 11 Kaiser+S2U2+S2P
i take no credit just wanna share...
more images...
a few more images...
and the files...
still i'll take no credit for all these...really wanna share it...
take note these cabs/files are use on my kaiser and i don't know if it runs on others...used at your own risk...pls read the instructions first...cheers..
the files...
1. TF3D-QVGA_v3
2. NFSFAN Opera 9.5
3. htc audio manager by Swtos
4. htc Diamond album
5. TouchResponce v02_2
6. htc CA_Kaiser_Drivers
7. TouchPower & tf3dStandBy
8. M3D Lanscape
9. YoutubeQVGA
10. MortScript
11. Uzeb QVGA tf3d font patch (makes ur font a bit clearer)
12. No Curtains and Transparent bottom bar
13. Pamas Transparent Slider
14. MobileMatt CrystalClockWhite
15. S2U2-2.04QVGA
16. S2P-0.73betaQVGA
17. S2V-0.42QVGA (actually not working on my Kaiser, my bad to include this)
18. tPRO for S2P QVGA (theme that goes with TF3D)
Download the zip files at RapidShare from here..
and attached is standby in mortscript. (just extract all the files to your storage card)
...added fire charging phase; extract batteryg.png copy/paste and overwrites the png files to s2us folder in device/programfiles/S2U2
Screenshots!
Mate! love the screenshots it looks great! thanks for the links some there i didnt have.
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doesn't work on my device..
One thing i know about Manilla... be it 2D or 3D... is that it's never the same instaling it, or having it cooked in a rom.
You'll never have the same stabillity... functionality even.
We could, of course, have a cook try and give us one very simple 6.1 rom with manilla3D cooked in.... it would be nice... just as a proof of concept.
Laurentius26...think that was is nick, once attempted it...
Now... that developments which i'm NOT aware now, like KaiserGL, VG and such...
stability...
i guess its how you choose the right files to flash and how you flash it because i did noticed different owner with same device, manilas and ROM but getting different results...
Hi.
Which Rom are using??
i'm using stock ROM 3.29
In recent releases of manila HTC introduced feature that forces digital clock to go back one hour and two minutes to play animation everytime you display home screen.
Some people like that while others don't. So if you want to get rid of this unnecessary animation (leaving `standard` flip when time really changes) here is the way:
CAB method
Simply download and install cab file corresponding to your manila version.
ZIP method
Download modified file for your version of manila (see below).
Disable TF3D (or HTC Sense) in Today settings.
Backup file you're gonna overwrite in next step (just in case
Unpack downloaded file to windows directory on your device (replace original).
Enable TF3D in today settings.
If TF3D doesn't start within few seconds, do a softreset.
If TF3D still won't start, restore your original file.
2.1 WVGA: ZIP CAB
2.5 WVGA: ZIP CAB
2.5 VGA: ZIP CAB
stock AT&T Tilt2: ZIP CAB
Notes:
I'm not a flashing freak, so the only rom i tested it myself is TESS, therefore i cannot guarantee it will work on your device. However i see modified files spreading around forums and many people says it's working.
If you're unlucky and provided file doesn't match your manila, you may still try to patch yours with my online patcher (still experimental)
buy me a shelby gt 350 ;]
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Thanks Empeka!
I can confirm it works for Touch Diamond 2 with duttys HG1 ROM and manila 2.5.
Great job!
I think we have to specify that this files are for WVGA devices, no?
shumilica said:
I think we have to specify that this files are for WVGA devices, no?
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ahh.. yes, i forgot that. thanks
Ah, works great on my Topaz with Dutty's HG R0 (Manila 2.5). Many thanks mate, that animation was really annoying!
Oha, without this animation the system consumpts less memory... now, with your mod 49% of RAM is used, before it was around 53-55%. Great!
What would need to be done to make this compatible for VGA?
Was looking for smth like this thanks so much!
Working great on my Topaz and Duttys HGR1.
Thank you very much!!!
Is working great with Laurentius26 WM6.5 V3, ROM.
Thanks for this.
It was indeed something which came back in all roms.
thanks alot it is fully working with Touch Diamond 2 running Duttys Holly Grail R1
empeka said:
In recent releases of manila HTC introduced feature that forces digital clock to go back one hour and two minutes to play animation everytime you display home screen.
Some people like that while others don't. So if you want to get rid of this unnecessary animation (leaving `standard` flip when time really changes) here is the way:
Download modified file for your version of manila (see below).
Disable TF3D (or HTC Sense) in Today settings.
Backup file you're gonna overwrite in next step (just in case
Unpack downloaded file to windows directory on yout device (replace original).
Enable TF3D in today settings.
If TF3D doesn't start within few seconds, do a softreset.
If TF3D still won't start, restore your original file.
Modified file for manila 2.1 WVGA
Modified file for manila 2.5 WVGA
Notes:
I'm not a flashing freak, so the only rom i tested it myself is TESS, therefore i cannot guarantee it will work on your device. However i see modified files spreading around forums and many people says it's working.
If you're unlucky and provided file doesn't match your manila, you may still try to patch yours with my online patcher (still experimental)
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can you make it for manila2d 2.0 too?
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What would need to be done to make this compatible for VGA?
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Same question.
Small bug
While the time was changing from 10:31 to 10:32, I powered off my HD and again I turn it on.
The clock was stuck in the following state, until time changed to 10:33.
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While the time was changing from 10:31 to 10:32, I powered off my HD and again I turn it on.
The clock was stuck in the following state, until time changed to 10:33.
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Same thing happened here as well
What would need to be done to make this compatible for VGA?
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Does manila 2.0 also have this feature?
well, if you send me archive with *_manila files from windows dir i will see what i can do.
jolas said:
While the time was changing from 10:31 to 10:32, I powered off my HD and again I turn it on.
The clock was stuck in the following state, until time changed to 10:33.
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I'll keep that in mind if i ever update the way it is patched
but for now i don't consider it critical and so you'll have to live with it ( i suppose you don't reboot too often ;p )
empeka said:
I'll keep that in mind if i ever update the way it is patched
but for now i don't consider it critical and so you'll have to live with it ( i suppose you don't reboot too often ;p )
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It is true that I don't reboot too often.
Meanwhile, you are right that it is not a critical bug, we can live with it.
Anyway, thanks for your patch , it would be nice if you could update the way it is patched.
Does this stop the weather from re-animating?
no. set custom wallpaper if you want to disable weather animation
Hi Empeka,
Thank you for the fix.
The clock isn't flipping anymore great!
I'm using Manila 2.5.
Grtz, Leo
Empeka,
Thank you for the fix too.
Working fine on my HD with Sh3lby's 1.3 ROM.
The_Steph
Tested on EnergyRom on Sprint CDMA touch pro. It works, but it kinda screws up the rain animation for the first few seconds. Some of the rain drops that are supposed to appear before the wiper clears the screen are missing and the animations get a little laggy. Other than that, it seems to work fine.
Edit: After watching the animations a few more times, i noticed that the raindrops aren't missing. The problem is that they don't fall onto the screen in the rain animation, they just pop up onto the screen.
I know I'm gonna get slammed for even posting this but I'm hoping someone can make a recommendation for me. I've been using rom's from xda-developers for years on various devices and now have a Tilt 2. I guess I'm old fashioned because I prefer the WM5 style today screen (screenshot below) and don't like Sense, Manila, or even the default WM6.5 today screen. I'd love to use the Tilt2 roms but am not seeing any that don't include either of those.
Can somebody please recommend a solid and current rom that uses the WM5 style today screen?
Thanks very much...
Greg
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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I can do that but was more looking for a rom that didn't have them there to begin with because they may get loaded even though I'm not showing them on the today screen. That's a lot of overhead if they are loaded. No big deal if I'm wrong, I can certainly disable them that way.
Thanks for the advice...
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
agent_47 said:
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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Are you recommending the Firestorm ROM or one version of it?
You probably can cook your own from the official ROMs. Da_G gives out ROMs without manila, but it does have titanium in it.
I'm by no means an expert, but I would guess that titanium would be more difficult to remove from an OS build, as it comes as part of WinMo. Manila/Sense comes from HTC, so it is probably easier to break off from the base OS. I'm betting that if you disable Titanium as mentioned above, you'll remove whatever overhead there is.
Also, as mentioned above, Da_G's ROM is sans manila... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577594 ... it appears to be made specifically for the Tilt 2, judging by the title of the thread.
Hi All,
I too am looking you for this, I can assure you I've flashed almost every rom out there... Da_G is indeed a clean one but I hate the new builds with the big buttons at the bottom...
@ Agent_47, is the rom you propose has this as well I suppose...
;(