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MKV files bigger than 4Gb? How to split them to copy into FAT32 4Gb size-limit SDcard

I don't know if it's already been posted or not.
You know that our SD cards (internal and/or external) is FAT32 formatted, so the FileSystem size limit is 4Gb.
This means that if you want to copy on your phone one file .Mkv bigger than 4Gb you can't
Some users have tried to split the Mkvs in several files less than 4Gb using tools like MkvMerge, but the Phone doesn't recognize the files outputted.
But if you split the file on a Linux OS (Ubuntu i.e.) the files generated works perfectly on the phone.
I have tested it on Ubuntu using MKVMerge, starting from a 4,8 Gb Mkv file splitted in 3 files (2Gb-2Gb-800Mb), files copied on the phone and played perfectly with the default Video Player.

There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
If you connect the phone in Kies mode (in the usb settings) and it connects properly you will get a "GT-I9000" Device show up in my computer instead of the standard lettered drive under "Devices with removable storage". It seems that you need to have Kies running in the background (with the icon in your system tray) but not fully open for this to work (not entirely sure on this as Kies is finicky). When you double click on the GT-I900 device in my computer you will get options for the internal or external sd card (assuming you have one installed).
If you copy and paste a file onto either of the sd cards using this method, it uses the Kies background service to check the file. If it detects a media file that might not be supported it will give you a warning which you can choose to ignore and copy the file anyways. I've found that if you copy a larger than 4gb mkv it uses the Kies service to split the file and put it on the sd card automatically. This takes a while as it has to split/convert the file and then write a fair amount of data to the sd card over usb.
You may be confused when it finishes as it only shows 1 file, it is smart enough to hid the others. The size of the file seems to be the amount that the original one was over 4gb (ex a 4.7gb movie will show as 700mb), however if you check the space avail on the sd card you will see that it contains the full movie. I transfered a 4.7gb 720p rip of "Tropic Thunder" this way to my phone and it played just fine on the samsung video player.
Let me know if that works out for you, I havn't seen anyone else try this.

how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?

Nirvana388 said:
There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
If you connect the phone in Kies mode (in the usb settings) and it connects properly you will get a "GT-I9000" Device show up in my computer instead of the standard lettered drive under "Devices with removable storage". It seems that you need to have Kies running in the background (with the icon in your system tray) but not fully open for this to work (not entirely sure on this as Kies is finicky). When you double click on the GT-I900 device in my computer you will get options for the internal or external sd card (assuming you have one installed).
If you copy and paste a file onto either of the sd cards using this method, it uses the Kies background service to check the file. If it detects a media file that might not be supported it will give you a warning which you can choose to ignore and copy the file anyways. I've found that if you copy a larger than 4gb mkv it uses the Kies service to split the file and put it on the sd card automatically. This takes a while as it has to split/convert the file and then write a fair amount of data to the sd card over usb.
You may be confused when it finishes as it only shows 1 file, it is smart enough to hid the others. The size of the file seems to be the amount that the original one was over 4gb (ex a 4.7gb movie will show as 700mb), however if you check the space avail on the sd card you will see that it contains the full movie. I transfered a 4.7gb 720p rip of "Tropic Thunder" this way to my phone and it played just fine on the samsung video player.
Let me know if that works out for you, I havn't seen anyone else try this.
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Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
EDIT: Could not wait any longer... thing was maxing my CPU for 1/2 hour. I am pretty sure this is doing some kind of trans-coding.

AllGamer said:
how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?
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This is exactly the test i would like to do, do you have already tested this way?
But, atm, i haven't any SD card to use and (most important) i would like to know if after having formatted in i.e. ext4 i will be able to re-format in Fat32.
And however, do i need a particular Memory Card Reader to read one ext? SD formatted card?
Nirvana388 said:
There's a much easier way as well, though I've only tried this once:
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Good trick!
I will try it asap to give you a Roger on that!

brunes said:
Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
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Yea just make sure that it's 720p and not too high of a quality level.. I know it doesn't do quite all MKVs as the format is not yet entirely standardized. It seems to handle 4~5gb 720p mkvs just fine though, they just take FOREVER to transfer.
AllGamer said:
how about formatting the SD card as Linux EXT3 or 4
the use smb mount, so when it does the mass storage mount to windows you can simply drag and drop, without having to cut any video into 4 GB chunks due the FAT32 limitation?
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I don't know that the phone would accept a file system other than fat32? Would be easy to find out though.

i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)

brunes said:
Wow if this is true it is some pretty slick thinking ahead by Samsung both on the phone and PC side.. I think I will try this just for kicks, have a 6 GB MKV right here.
EDIT: Could not wait any longer... thing was maxing my CPU for 1/2 hour. I am pretty sure this is doing some kind of trans-coding.
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Haha yea it's software encoding, I think having Samsung encode it so it could run on your GPU would be a bit too much to ask lol. A 4.5gb movie took my quad core about 25 minutes to encode and then transfer.

AllGamer said:
i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)
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Looking forward to your experiment!

AllGamer said:
i have some videos that are larger than 4G
i'll definitely give it a shot to test the Linux partition theory.
I'm almost positive it'll work, as the "Lag Fixes" solution all uses the EXT3 and EXT4 partitions anyway.
but in our case we want to use it natively for video playback, and be able to mount it when we want to use it with Windows
re: question about formatting back to FAT32 after EXT3
Yes, it's possible and safe to do so.
As soon as i have more time in my hands, i'll give this a go, unless some one beats me to it (some one with more time on their hand)
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Have you tried this yet? I've googled all over. Cant find solution how to format and use external SD like this. Found this thread and posted in it as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975803

u can download mkv smaller than 4gb..and graphic will be still great =)

Its not just movies I want to be able to place on sd card. I can't split those files. And I don't want to convert existing mkv files to a lower resolution, spend time on that.... its not a quick process to compress the resolution. I much rather be able to copy what i have now to my phone, instead of having to modify. ...
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http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
I use http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
You can set the file size and even remove unwanted subs and/or audios.

I have mkvtoolnix and have used it. Thats not the question, but thank you

Anyone knows?

not losing hope. It will be useful for others, I am sure.

compressing the file would help
as in making DVD sources with less channel or less quality can drastically reduce the file size without too much sacrify to HD quality
say for example choose 720 instead of 1080
2 channels instead of 6 channels
or even if you keep it 6 channels make it 160 instead 320, or maybe drop it lower to even 128 kbps
use 44 instead of 48
use 25 fps instead of 30fps
etc...

bmvik said:
Its not just movies I want to be able to place on sd card. I can't split those files. And I don't want to convert existing mkv files to a lower resolution, spend time on that.... its not a quick process to compress the resolution. I much rather be able to copy what i have now to my phone, instead of having to modify. ...
Sent from my SGH-T959D using XDA App
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so there is no way? We're just stuck having to use a workaround?

That size of file requires card to be formatted as exfat .
Try it see if phone reads exfat .
jje

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How to play files larger than 4GB ?

Is it possible to play big .mkv files of 5-9GB on the Galaxy Note ?
If yes, can we just format SD Card to NTFS and the phone will recogonize it... OR do i have to do sum rooting and sum complex stuff for the phone to identify the card?
Also, can we play big files frm phones internal memory ?

I dont have the device myself, but by using lots of different Android devices, I would think it wont read NTFS drivers. I have used some Honeycomb tablet that had modules and custom apps to mount NTFS drives.
I think the device should support EXT2 formatted card, but if you were using linux with that filesystem already you wouldn't ask this.
I use softwares like AviDemux to split the MKV file. Also is there actually any Android software that provides hardware acceleration for MKV files, otherwise I would think HD MKV files would struggle to play smoothly.

eksasol said:
I dont have the device myself, but by using lots of different Android devices, I would think it wont read NTFS drivers. I have used some Honeycomb tablet that had modules and custom apps to mount NTFS drives.
I think the device should support EXT2 formatted card, but if you were using linux with that filesystem already you wouldn't ask this.
I use softwares like AviDemux to split the MKV file. Also is there actually any Android software that provides hardware acceleration for MKV files, otherwise I would think HD MKV files would struggle to play smoothly.
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Hull 1080p, works fine. Many videos on youtube!

Note can't play files over 4gb. Use an mkv splitter instead.

Using Es file manager network access + dice player worked well watching mkv files > 8GB over a network share.
Of course this approach may not be suitable for everybody.
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Sharpshooterrr said:
Note can't play files over 4gb. Use an mkv splitter instead.
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What software actually just split the files and dont actually recode/encode them, so that the procedure is completed in a minute? please suggest a few...
Also, are you referring to this software?
http://www.mkvsplitter.com/
Sproxy,
Tht seems too complicated to sum1 who never used android before!

Sry Double post

I am sry but i have to bump this, as i am still looking answer to my last post above ^ [#6]

You can use MKVToolNix to easily split without re-encoding the files...

RenkliArif said:
You can use MKVToolNix to easily split without re-encoding the files...
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Seconded, with mkvtoolnix it's actually very easy to do this, just load up the file, give a new file output name, set the file to split every e.g. 4000M and go.
It will take a while, but you get a serially-named group of files which are (as far as I can tell) exactly the same as the input, but split into 4000MB chunks. Dead easy.

Pity that the siyah kernel does not work on the note yet.
Siyah Kernel supports NTFS mounting of SD and USB-Storage.

No ntfs can you have filesizes bigger than 4gb?

I formatted my sdcard to ntfs to see if it would recognise, but phone won't read the card. Is there a way to copy file sizes bigger than 4GB onto the note?

I can confirm, I couldn't transfer a 4.7 GB .mkv file to my phone (was trying to use it as a temporary hard drive to transfer a file from one computer to another). I had to break it up into 7 smaller pieces using win-rar and recombine it.
I would love to know why?

Just so can play 3d mkvs off my phone

NTFS can only be used hard drives for Windows NT/WinXP or later.
FAT32 is used on most everything else besides Windows, but unfortunately it has a limit of 4GB for a single file.
Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here... I remember hearing that kies has built in functionality to cope with the fat32 4gb file limit. If you transfer 4+gb files using kies you shouldn't run into any issues as kies splits up the large files seamlessly and transparently to the end user. Once the file is transferred it appears as 1 logical file on your sd card.
Can someone confirm or deny this?

Does the note support exFAT? If so, that is the solution as it support greater than 4GB file sizes.
Actually, just looked this up and it doesn't seem to support it natively.. Looks like there are mods to add support though, so this will probably be the solution in the future..
Riley

Thanks guys ill try the kies thing, see if it works. Stupid in this day and age it can't support ntfs.

Video converter for smallest file size?

I have Nook Color 8GB with 2GB microSD card. I want to save a few movies to my Nook for my upcoming long flight and wonder what the best way to do it is. Could somebody please answer these two questions for me:
1. Can I copy videos to Nook's internal memory to take advantage of the 8GB?
2. Which video converter and which settings one should use to get the smallest file size possible with a decent quality?

alosito said:
I have Nook Color 8GB with 2GB microSD card. I want to save a few movies to my Nook for my upcoming long flight and wonder what the best way to do it is. Could somebody please answer these two questions for me:
1. Can I copy videos to Nook's internal memory to take advantage of the 8GB?
2. Which video converter and which settings one should use to get the smallest file size possible with a decent quality?
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I do copy videos to my internal memory; however, they cannot be seen by the video player in that location. I find that the internal memory is a great place to ‘store’ the videos, but they need to be moved to the SD card (at least that is where I move them) when you are ready to watch them.
As for the video conversion, I use HANDBRAKE which is very easy to use and free. If you google NOOK settings for HANDBRAKE you can easily locate the configuration for the Nook Color.
Hope this helps and have a safe trip.

rnclock said:
I do copy videos to my internal memory; however, they cannot be seen by the video player in that location. I find that the internal memory is a great place to ‘store’ the videos, but they need to be moved to the SD card.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Which application do you use to move files from the internal memory to the SD card?

alosito said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Which application do you use to move files from the internal memory to the SD card?
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I use Root Explorer (cost, but worth it) for all my file exploring needs.

I use mobo to watch tv shows on my internal memory. Works great.
Sent from space

+1 for mobo and no converting to mp4.

alosito said:
I have Nook Color 8GB with 2GB microSD card. I want to save a few movies to my Nook for my upcoming long flight and wonder what the best way to do it is. Could somebody please answer these two questions for me:
1. Can I copy videos to Nook's internal memory to take advantage of the 8GB?
2. Which video converter and which settings one should use to get the smallest file size possible with a decent quality?
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1. Yes, you can. Mobo player or Rock player played almost every file format perfectly fine no matter they are stored in the internal memory or external uSD card.
Side note: you never has 8GB of internal memory. To know how much, pls check it under Storage. If your NC is new, most likely you only have 1GB.
2. Handbrake is great tool.

When I connect my Nook Color to the computer, I see the drive called MyNOOKcolor, but its capacity is only 1 GB. Is it supposed to be that little? No way to take advantage of the full 8GB?

@alosito,
You will never have 8gb available as the system uses some of it to boot up. I repartitioned mine by following the guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371 .
As far as your two questions above.
1. You can copy anything to your emmc and access it. Before I got my 16gb sd card, I put movies there unconverted. But a feature length movie can be brought down to the native screen resolution of the nook color using several converters including handbrake. All I did to access the movies was to use File Expert (free on the market) and navigate to the emmc to play the movie using rock player.
2. There are plenty of guides for handbrake and others to achieve this. I do not convert as I have a big enough card and rock player plays anything I throw at it. A converter that I use for work that has hundreds of presets is from Xilisoft. They make converters that go straight from blue ray or dvd to multiple formats/devices.

alosito said:
When I connect my Nook Color to the computer, I see the drive called MyNOOKcolor, but its capacity is only 1 GB. Is it supposed to be that little? No way to take advantage of the full 8GB?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
You will never get the "full 8G". The above should net you about 5G.
Repartition as above and consider this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227

zires said:
I repartitioned mine by following the guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
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When I reboot in Recovery, I get "Install Failed" message. I have CM7 installed. What am I doing wrong?

You need to have a bootable sd to get this to work as it wipes everything on internal (emmc) memory. A CM7 rom should be on the bootable sd too.

+1, Redoing the partition on any drive totally wipes that drive.

[Q] can ds7 play .mkv?

I tried to put an .mkv movie on my ds7, and the windows or the computer, who knows, didn't let me do it. It said that the file is larger than the permitted, or something like that.
Oh, and I have an other question as well. Is there a faster way to put movies, actually files from the computer to the tablet than just copying it simply to the chosen directory?
Thanks in advance!

raidon24 said:
I tried to put an .mkv movie on my ds7, and the windows or the computer, who knows, didn't let me do it. It said that the file is larger than the permitted, or something like that.
Oh, and I have an other question as well. Is there a faster way to put movies, actually files from the computer to the tablet than just copying it simply to the chosen directory?
Thanks in advance!
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Since the format is FAT32 you can't put a file larger than 4gb on the SD... I may be mistaken... as far as file transfer you can learn to use ADB commands or something like SAMBA which for me both are faster than MTP

Okay, I see... and should I change its format to NTFS? I read somewhere on the internet that somebody changed his SD card's format to NTFS and it solved his problem. But I also heard something about that it's intentional I mean significant that it's FAT32... what do you think? And what would happen if I changed it and would go bad? Would it screw the whole SD card?

raidon24 said:
Okay, I see... and should I change its format to NTFS? I read somewhere on the internet that somebody changed his SD card's format to NTFS and it solved his problem. But I also heard something about that it's intentional I mean significant that it's FAT32... what do you think? And what would happen if I changed it and would go bad? Would it screw the whole SD card?
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im not sure the kernel supports ntfs

u should split ur movie file to bring it under 4gb.
reformatting ur sd card to some other filesystem will render it unusable in the tablet.
u can try using an ftp server or stream directly from ur computer (like using vlc direct).
class 4 sd cards (the common class) ve max write speed of 8-10mbps, so cant go beyond it.

Thanks! Good ideas! I think I'll just split it to 2 parts, but the streaming through VLC is also simple. Thanks again! Btw, would you recommend me a program what I could do the splitting with?

handbrake is considered one of the best video editors (available for both linux n windows)

tlnlion said:
handbrake is considered one of the best video editors (available for both linux n windows)
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This time I did it with something called mkvtoolnix..and was quite good. I could do what I wanted, so I'm kinda satisfied. Thanks anyway, I think I'll check that one also.

You can try to put it on the Internal and use an app to play it. That's what I do.

ikutoisahobo said:
You can try to put it on the Internal and use an app to play it. That's what I do.
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I was trying to put it on the internal. But I think I have solved the problem. I got a player called Dice, and as it is said it plays HD videos perfectly. It really does play movies better than MXplayer, so I recommend it, especially for Tegra 2 tablets.