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wm6 grps doesn't work (tmobile)

All of a suddden today my internet won't work (tzones 5.99 plan). I have the 2.19 cingular rom and it has been working great till today. I did many soft-resets and wanted to hear other suggestions before I do a hard-reset or possibly a downgrade to aku3.3..
any suggestions?

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sorry, wtf is that? I am running pdaviet3, if that is what you're asking.

have you set up tzones to work with your wm6?

yea it has been working for over a month on wm6 now. I had a issue last week and a softrestart fixed it. The problem was with spb insight which I uninstalled now. Softrestarts don't do anything now.. not sure what happened.

wierd.. ok.. and its working again. That was odd, I hope it stays functional now.

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wierd.. ok.. and its working again. That was odd, I hope it stays functional now.
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How did you get it to work? Im having the same problem.

tzones no longer works check www.howardforums.com tmobile section for details. they blocked all ports and only allow limited wap access, u need to change to the 19.99 blackberry plan inorder to use the inet on ur mda.. ****ty i know.

It seems full access is back on for the moment with TMobile. There are several dozen threads in many forums about access being turned on and off as apparently TMobile works on the network.
The only official statement I have seen TMobile make is that 3rd party apps are going to be disabled soon.
My guess is they are preparing their system for the new highspeed band and using the current one to test various methods of restricting access. This may possibly mean adding more payment tiers or levels of speed. Just a guess on my part but in my opinion a welcome feature. To be able to pick and choose several features (push email, msging, speed, or data caps) tailored to individual usage would be ideal.
Tmobile seems to be frustrating a lot of people by turning on and off access to their system without any public notice. Seems like they should just make a statement on their intent.

Posts on Howard forums and here confirm TMobile is tightning up internet access. Recent "internal memo leak" indicates they were attempting to stop access for 3rd party apps. Also attemping to stop people on tzones sbility to recive anything but wap material.
Just be aware the "free ride is coming to a end soon".
As a bonus they also appear to be messing up the paying customers and aggravating them too.
Please save the messing with a loyal customer talk or for xxx speed and price I'm leaving for the Tmobile csr's because no one here cares if you lost your free or discounted access.

i posted the info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295792
if u look in forums its titled
""Say Goodbye To Using Tzones Or Blackberry Internet On Mda/dash/sda""

ATT, tethering and download limits

Hello all,
First of all I am new here and to hacking phones. Plenty of experience hacking everything else though. lol
I am a real estate agent. Finally, the ATT HTC Tilt is a device that will meet my needs! I do not want to pay for the tethering plan. The basic 20MB/$30 per month data plan may or may not be enough for me so I need some advice. For $10 more, I may just get the $40 unlimited PDA deal which does not include tethering.
1st - All I will need the device for is emails and checking the MLS websites. I can get an idea of my email amount but what is an average web page?
2nd - I know I can tether without paying them for it and I plan on doing so. I am not going to download huge files. I would just like to connect my laptop, cruise the Multiple Listing Service website and be able to show clients the data on a nice big laptop screen. Do you think that would send ATT any red flags?
3rd - If I use some of the hacks/ROMs here to get rid of the ATT garbage (as I have read this is a smart thing to do) will it effect my ability to tether?
Occasionally I may have to download a a 5 or 10 MB PDF form. Normally, I would already have that on my laptop ahead of time though.
Thanks for your opinions and guidance. I know some of these questions have been addressed but I just wanted to confirm this for my situation since I will be leaving Verizon for ATT and buying a new phone and cannot afford to screw up. lol
By the way, this website rocks!!! A true treasure!

1. Average website is about 2KB to 100KB, depending on the number of images. Things like flash animations, videos, sound, or very large images will make pages much bigger.
2. Make sure your bandwidth usage is not huge, and it will not set off any red flags, there is no way for them to know you are tethering besides guessing based on your bandwidth usage. With the $40 PDA plan, the "limit" is already pretty high, so you don't have much to worry about.
3. Won't affect you ability to tether, as long as the ROM you chose still has the internet sharing software still on it. The stock HTC ROM does have it, but some of the "light" ROMs may not. Many people actually seem to like the stock AT&T ROM, after tweaking it. Consider these tweaks instead of reflashing, as reflashing will void your warantee.

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3. Won't affect you ability to tether, as long as the ROM you chose still has the internet sharing software still on it. The stock HTC ROM does have it, but some of the "light" ROMs may not. Many people actually seem to like the stock AT&T ROM, after tweaking it. Consider these tweaks instead of reflashing, as reflashing will void your warantee.
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Jozer is totally correct, DO NOT FLASH it, just tweak it. The AT&T ROM is fine after you stop the bloatware install. To do that, when you first get the device and boot it up you will have to go thru the normal OS prompts (time, screen alignemnt, password, etc) then you will see a dialog that says that it will customer the device in 3 seconds. Reboot the device before the 3 seconds are up and none ofthe bloatware will be installed.
Then, just tweak away will all the cool cabs here on this site (of course, I mean the cabs for the Kaiser).

WOW...good stuff and made crystal clear too. Thanks so much guys. I would like to just tweak as you both recommend since I have enough headaches and don't want to get radical in the first few months of a new plan any way.lol
Does anyone recommend dealing with ATT directly or can I find a better deal online without customer service headaches if help is needed down the road? I have never bought from online, I always went directly to the store.
I have seen some good prices on the http://www.letstalk.com/product/browse.htm?pgId=100 website.

Wing - Data - not working after new IM+ install

so as i have posted b4 with my problem
the data just stoped working
i fianlly figured out what the problem was/is again
the new v of im+ 4.53
after install and disconnect of it
i no longer have any data function
im uninstalled no change
emailed them about it..
im thinking some sort of reg problem?
any one of your wing brains know how to fix this?

I never unistalled IM+. I just reflashed with a new ROM and installed it. I suggest you do the same. If you're running the stock T-Mobile ROM, you'll be MUCH happier anyways.

It may be, bc the moment IM+ stops using the data connection, it tells the phone to disconnect it. Try going to the comm manager before and after you run IM+ and see if the data connection is open before and then check it after. The program might just be closing the data connection and you just need to reactivate it.
Also, if you're convinced the problem lies with IM+, go to their site, and see if there's something in their forum or report it.
http://www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=im&platform=pocketpc
Personally, I use PALRINGO for instant messaging.

ok, well on a fresh restart of the phone [power cycle] data connection is greyed out. soit seems data is disabled now
further more, if i try to connect right now, and it trys and fails, i dont get calls.. so i have to restart..
last time this happened i flashed up to open touch and still had the same problem
so how do i get the data connection active again, with out making my wing fly into a wall

in commanager "data" is allways greyed out!!!
it is only available for DISCONNECTING.
i don´t know why but it was like this all the time. also with wizard. no way to establish a connection manually. only by using IE or any other gprs-needing program.

yea i noticed the its greyed out after, this is annoying
i emailed shape services - waiting for there mail back now
any one have a install cab for the older version of im+
the one b4 they added myspace being 4.53 [current]
i want to try to set back one version and see if it works
but i dont think it will bc PIE will not connect - with having that totally removed from the phone
as i said this is the 4th time this has happened now and really dont want to go to my 5th repalcement wing..
installing the htc home 5 and black theme has gotten annoying so many times lol

BUMP so people can help me i really dont want to go for a 4th replacement

Damn, you've had to replace your phone four times?

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Damn, you've had to replace your phone four times?
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for this same thing every time
data stops working
they send a replacement
atleast some good has come from this. the first time i had to ship the phone i went ot the local ups store, the 2nd time it happened i went and they know me already - had a help wanted sign, filled the app out and got the job
so thanks to defective phones i got a new job... which will be nice when it comes to having to ship the this one back when i get my next replacement..

^Wow. An act of God maybe then cuz these phones are of high manufacturing quality.

Ive had to replace my Wing 4 times since I bought my first one in June.
MMS wouldn't send at all
TouchScreen stopped working
Earpiece stopped working
and I can't remember why it was replaced the other time.

yea on my 4th. im gonan try opentouch and pray. if not the wings going for a flight...

no one has any clues to how to fix this with out a replacement again!?!?
i really dont want to spend another 3 hours on with pda tech for them to say the normal oh its the network sorry, blah blah , ok repalcement

Are you running stock rom? or have you upgraded?

last time this happen i was on stock - went to open touch 2.4 didnt change anything.. so i ruu'ed back to stock b4 i sent it back
it happens on stock..
and stays with any upgrade i do

I dunno man. hard to say without being there personally. The Stock Rom sucks, and on top of that Tmo blocks ports and **** ...
When you installed Touch IT, did you run the network wizard to set up the correct settings?

yea did the whole 9 yards and nothing... phone just ahtes me
i would just go for a sidekick but i went n spoiled myself with the touch screen [this is my first] and i dont think i can go back to something so simple
just need a wing that will work and stay working

I'd say go with the exchange I guess.

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I'd say go with the exchange I guess.
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lucky number 5 i guess?!
lol
arg i dont wnan spend another 5 hours on the phone with those drones at the cs centers

I know man, I've been there.

New to the Dream, questions! (and yes i searched for these first!)

what up yall! My ATT tilt died a few weeks ago (flex cable went bad, decided it was time to move on) so i got a G1 from my buddy that had a broken digitizer and LCD. ordered the parts online and got it put back together today. few questions though.... it seems that about the bottom 1/4 inch of my touch screen dosent respond....its brand new and the rest of it works fin...just the small strip that seems to not work. any ideas? also t mobile are assholes...i cant get them to unlock it but i will work on that one...im quite sure that answer is on here. Also...do i really need to get a data package or can i choose to keep my phone from constantly connecting and updating my gmail and other apps? thats the reason i continue to get HTC is because i think data plans are silly when everywhere in america has WiFI....i think thats all for now...and ive been a member on here for quite sometime but this android mess is totally different. lol. thank yall!

That 1/4" at the bottoms sounds like a bad digitizer. =/ *Most* likely not software. But you can check by flashing a new ROM and if its a software problem, the new ROM will override whatever was causing it not to work before.
You can get it unlocked for $20 from one of many unlocking websites, just google it. You can't get it free anywhere other than T-Mobile sorry to say.
You don't *need* a data package, I don't have one. There are applications that can disable your data connection except for when you need it (i.e. MMS). Or its a built-in widget with the Hero ROMs.
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi. But honestly, I think this phone is crippled without a data connection even if you don't use it all the time, I'm currently waiting for my current plan to end to sign another 2-year contract with data. But its up to you, its certainly still usable with enough WiFi connection points.

darn....its not very fun to take apart...plus i have to wait even longer...im currently using an old school , non color green screen nokia probably digitizer and not some random flex cable along the lines? maybe the black one? i guess there wouldnt be any way to check without replacing. and im not real addicted to any apps or anything, just mainly want it as phone/organizer. im a studennt and have wi fi at the house and at school, and every bar i go to has wi fi so i think im covered =) just making sure i could regulate it so it dosent pull and jack my bill up. if i were to flash a new rom, wouldnt that unlock it....and can you still downgrade it to rc29 when you dont have a t mobile sim card....or rather is there any other way besides adp or should i just go ahead and learn how to use it...seems a bit intimidating to anything ive done on a WMo phone.

you can use apndroid to block data from being used accidentally
flashing a rom will not unlock the phone.
Yes you can downgrade to RC29 without a tmo card

mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?

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mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
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You are correct.

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Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi.
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I haven't tried it myself, but this thread tells you how to get around that.

note how that thread tells you to obtain root...

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note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.

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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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ah ok i figured he already found that or would.
sorry

You can root without data. Just activate wifi at RC29 when trying to sign in

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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).

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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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all ROM's based on adp (and most modded tmo) have the option to skip (at least im pretty sure)
He just wants to activate his phone without data, which would require him to get down to a root level rom (RC29)
after he logs in, he has the option to root or wait for the OTA update if he wants to stay stock
if he wants to try to use his data, he can try but it doesnt always work (it did for me at first, but not the next few times)

ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!

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ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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1. That would stop just contacts, calendar, and gmail not all of the other apps that come with the phone
2. Rooting is definitely worth it, loving my hero rom
3. If your on RC29 there is no camcorder, but if not then it's definitely a hardware issue, when I was on stock everything worked fine

Just FYI: the unlock code is phone specific, so if your getting a replacement, the unlock code wont work on that one if the code you got was for the other.
1) If you want to disable data, download and run APNDroid. You can turn off autosync if you want but data will still be used.
2) Rooting has lots of advantages. Themes, faster updates (i.e youll get the latest android before its released OTA) more modifications, use of certain apps such as Ad-Free, etc. cooked android roms are more stable than winmo cooked roms, and you have the option between stable/experimental
3) if it was stock, its probably a hardware error

so could i potenitally not have any apps and not have a data pull problem? or it seems as though just rooting and flashing to hero (would you all go hero, or newer 1.6 stock rom, or custom 1.6?) and ill be taking it back apart to send the bad digitzer back, so ill check the ol camera out. still is stock T-mobile 1.5....no rc29 or anything....yet...

if you still have 1.5, you can use the 1 click root
im using hero right now, but i switch between hero and cyan using the switchrom script
the g1 on stock android will still use data even if you have everything disabled. the only way to completely disable it is by changing the apns, or by disabling mobile data on a hero rom
what was wrong with the camera? give a little more detail so we know if it really is a hardware or software problem

Quiccest way to get unlock code..just tellem you are goin to the uk or sum and you are in need of unlocking since u will be on there network for a while.. Usually that works!

Had an HD7 queued up until I read these threads

NO TETHERING
NO NAVIGATING
I really like/dislike my Samsung Vibrant. My HD2 was stolen and got the Vibrant on a temporary basis until the HD7 came out. Love the market place, hate the phone and the android service or whatever I had to switch my internet plan over to.
I cant stand roaming data charges. $30 a megabyte. Im pretty sure I wont get that with the HD7. Im a truck driver so I need tethering and navigating.
Is it possible for a tethering app in the future or is it a hardware thing?

It seems to be possible on the samsung phones, so it is possible. Cant say if itll happen on the hd7, but id bet its a matter of time before someone finds a way.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/windows-phone-7-usb-tethering-uncovered-on-samsung-phones/

they also got a lg wp7 phone to tether.
That will happen. As far as gps goes, bing navigation is supposed to be in the jan. 11 update.