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Hi Chefs,
Just an idea.
Been wandering around on this super forum for a while and have tried a lot of ROM's.
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
Why don't you chefs try to built in a other way. So why don't you start with the fastest and most stable ROM ever, and then one by one try to add the functionality that we are now used, till you see that the ROM starts getting slower.
On my Diamond I've got a ROM that is based on WM6.1, and runs Sense 2.1. This ROM is much faster than the original stock ROM for the Diamond. In speed and functionality this ROM can really compete with the speed of an iPhone.
Why not do the same for the HD? Why not trying WM6.1+Sense 2.1 and add the tools we are used in the latest ROM's? Or perhaps WM6.5+TF3D?
The must be a lot of way to do this, but the goal is to start with the fastest and most stable ROM, and than adding new stuff. Instead of the other way, like almost every Chef is doing on this forum.
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but I don't have the knowledge of doing this.
I Hope a Chef can pick this one up!
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Hi Chefs,
Just an idea.
Been wandering around on this super forum for a while and have tried a lot of ROM's.
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
Why don't you chefs try to built in a other way. So why don't you start with the fastest and most stable ROM ever, and then one by one try to add the functionality that we are now used, till you see that the ROM starts getting slower.
On my Diamond I've got a ROM that is based on WM6.1, and runs Sense 2.1. This ROM is much faster than the original stock ROM for the Diamond. In speed and functionality this ROM can really compete with the speed of an iPhone.
Why not do the same for the HD? Why not trying WM6.1+Sense 2.1 and add the tools we are used in the latest ROM's? Or perhaps WM6.5+TF3D?
The must be a lot of way to do this, but the goal is to start with the fastest and most stable ROM, and than adding new stuff. Instead of the other way, like almost every Chef is doing on this forum.
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but I don't have the knowledge of doing this.
I Hope a Chef can pick this one up!
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A lot of chefs like to try and use the latest builds and with new builds appearing all the time, the time to do as you wish becomes less. A few chefs have created roms using wm6.1 & manila 2.1 but this is becoming less often as wm6.1 is seen my a lot of people as a dying format especially with wm7 soon being released for mobiles. Also there is compatibility issues with some apps and wm6.1 as most are now designed for wm6.5
there is topix anyway. wm6.1 tweaked to the max
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but i...
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
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blackstone will never be really fluid, like for example a iPhone because it runs windows mobile 6.1, or even worse, 6.5, which requires more juice than the processor is able to provide.
my guess is that cooks cook roms to there personal taste(i know i do)
and wm6.5 has reached a lvl that it is verry usable for daily use
thats why i think there isnt to much 6.1 cooked anymore
Hi Guys,
Don't get me wrong, I do like the latest builds. As a matter of fact, I always used the latest versions, because I like all the features that has been introduced in WM6.5 and Sense 2.5.
Because I've experienced that the latest ROM's really use a lot of power of the HD, (resulting in unstable performance and fast battery drainage), I was looking for a ROM with Manila that was as fast as the Stock ROM, but had the features of the latest builds.
After a while I concluded that WM6.5 combined with the latest Sense is too heavy to get fluid performance like the stock ROM. (allthough Miniterror's ROM is very good, I'm using his ROM for over a month now!).
That's why I suggested a few options, like WM6.1 with Sense 2.5, or WM6.5 with TF3D2.1 or anything else. Just to get fastest and most fluid ROM.
I found a ROM that perhaps answers my questions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679670
I will try this one and give some feedback.
Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?
the clean rom ist the best and the fastest rom on xda.
the top version is better than the bottom version.
==> try clean rom top version 1
http://www.multiupload.com/IK64V7SC7D
BlackNew V
I really like BlackNew ROMs. I tried Energy ROMs, both on my Diamond and current Blackstone. They are pretty and full of apps, but slows down the machine a lot. And for speed and functionality is top priority
With BlackNew ROMs you get speed and some usefull apps
are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious
Yep cant be long before the padlock cometh...We're not allowed to have a discussion about who likes which rom & why on here You've got to spend hours and hours, days and days trying them all yourself and going with the one you like, but remember not to post to tell anyone..
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are the mods on holiday? they normally close these threads because they can be so contentious
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The mods will soon type something into this thread along with this line: "thread closed"
Maybe the Mods have realized that you can't close down these types of questions, hence another one will always pop up! These forums by nature produce these comparisons, so in effect they are the root cause. Can you condemn something that you are responsible for?
I love Energy Roms...I always come back to these. They just are "eye candy", and have all the features and personalization ideas that I love...but they are really designed for the HD2 which makes them "fat" on our HD units...Eg... they are 220+ MB for a ROM footprint compared to 168MB for a KWBR rom footprint. Hence the downside to me is they are generally more sluggish COMPARED to others...but they get faster as NRG keeps cooking.
KWBR's rom is quicker, but would love to see some eye candy enhancements.
Miniterror's roms are awesome...but would love to see CHT back in.
Have not tried many of the others as these guys keep producing too much quality to send me elsewhere..
I tried Kenia's BLack V, and that was awesome!! But just could not got back to the 6.1 OS...but he did a super job blending new age enhancements with the stability and speed of the older systems.
Thanks cooks
Regards
J
I don't see the problem with other people's opinion it's like feed back in one place instead of going through each thread on the ROM have one thread with feed back for all the ROM's in one place. Just an idea..
the reason why they get closed is that everybody has a different look of how a rom should lok like and what should be included in the rom
as it are opinions there cant be decided whats the best rom
also benchmarking wont be the answer as i have read that you can set some thing that the rom becomes verry slow but benchmark scores mega high that it should be the best rom
so for me the best rom is my own
i like the colors that are in and the programs and the fact its dutch
some others could like nrg rom more as they like those colors or the startmenu at the bottom builds
it all comes down to you what you want
maybe on a side note somebody can make a spreadsheet off the roms out here with the functions the roms have like startmenu at the bottom or on top
colors or default look and stuff like that
best ..
.. is your own ROM ..
My best: Blackdragon 3 Final
I tried them all, but with a windows phone speed and stability should be top priority. You can always customise your phone to your requirements. So I vote for blackdragon by Andy, as my best rom; mainly becasue of its incredible speed and stability.
I've tried most ROMs and became a bit of an NRG fan but I think there are too many changes for me to keep up with these days. It's great to try many ROMs and see what nice toys there are and also which areas of stability you need.
Been using G10's Evo v6.00 (24001) 30.06.10 for a couple of weeks and have to say I love it. Battery and connection (UK) as well as GPS for TomTom is great so I'm sticking with this for a bit.
I'm sure some great new feature or app will tempt me to try something else in the future though.
Just flash a couple a week until you get bored (by then you'll know exactly what you want) would be my best advice
Hi there,
I my opinion these are the best 3 options:
1: [ROM][WWE][10-Jul-10] Cloudy 0.4 (WM6.1)
It's one of the fastest roms on this forum but has all the features you want. It's no "clean"rom or anything like that. I see this rom as one of the "jewels" around here. I did not detect 1 bug or glitch or anything like that while using this rom for a week now.
2: Try KWBR's rom. I am a big fan of his work and his roms are usually the most stable and also very fast.
3: Go with a wm6.5 titanium rom and if you like buy spb mobile shell and customize it the way you want. I belive ram usages will go up to around 50% while using spb so you are probably not as fast as option 1 or 2.
Good hunting!
i would say again there is no such thing best rom...
read the sticky dude...
every chef has different goal on their rom release
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- want clean roms for fast performance ( i prefer clean rom ... )
- want stable rom less bug ( for stable i prefer stock rom )
- want best look for lastest rom release ( WM 6.5 com 5 built )
I think jude1993 just wanted people's opinion to what they liked or disliked about the ROM's. I am intrested aswell. What is the best ROM is the wrong title for this thread though, Maybe it should say your opinion of the ROM's. Just an idea
I've tried loads of different roms too....Gets very tedious Loading all your programs n contacts n messages etc..
This weekend I've tried most of NRG's latest offerings, but dear god they are slow. For me anyway I use my phone for work, not to look trendy, but to run fast, stable & smooth.
I've come from Onkologs stable of roms, so its been tricky to find a modern comparison...And I much prefer 6.5 to 6.1, but not the latest bottom button builds.
For me the fastest most stable clean rom I have come across and go back to each and every time is....
Energy.BLACKSTONE.21895.Titanium.Mar.17
Needs a bit of tweaking here n there but have not found anything to touch it for speed/fluidity/stability.
Just my opinion
Mick
this is very interesting
as i've been trying out WWE 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5sth(at least 30+ times of flashing)...i'd say i eventually chose WWE 6.1 Lite Rom. The reason why to my choice is more speed, more rom capacity, and ram usage. Well, actually most cookers here did very good job as theirs roms are stable, compatiable and fast in general, appreciated! Without considering eye candy interface, WWE 6.1 is the most fastest rom compare to WWE 6.5 or up...
All in all, there's always sth i think which hardly get solved is language patch problem. Ok say like i am chinese, hk...my rom is WWE 6.1, i'd spent some certain time trying out chinese patch which i needed to read and write chinese...some cabs installed that could read and write in chinese but then while some app running that easy to get device "hang", some apps couldn't display chinese characters properly...this is i what found so far an unresolved issue...would you agree...?
thanks
cheerz
over the past 3 days i have flashed about 5 roms Im currently trying miniterror ,but i find my self wanting to go back to the energy roms more for the eye candy
before it used to be duttys roms but now im neither here or there.
But always gravitating towards Energy the Maryone roms I have tried so many times and they always feel too slow and sluggish ...
jude1993 said:
Looking for a good reliable rom, just wondering what would you say is the best rom to have on my blackstone?
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try CLoudy 2.2 COM5 or COM2... for me, this is the best ROM ever had. no issues with this ROM. retain more stock ROM... not very much added application or programmes for optimal speed
okay if there is no best rom ,, i need the fastest rom with out bugs ???
can i get this
I used more than 80 roms so far (including English roms,Chinese roms,Thai roms,Italian roms etc).
The roms are from many talented chefs,inluding:
Energy roms,Cell pro series,Deepshining series,Valkyrie FireStorm,Rhodium_AF,e2 roms,Touch X by smaberg,AthineOS roms,Jackos Oldschool ROM v1.1,WCX rom by WildChild,rom by Joshkoss,6.5 Foundation by Joe USer etc.
But my impression is that 6.5 Foundation v1.0 is probably the most stable so far.
Others roms,in one stage or the others, you always would see some "instability things",for example,SOD(screen of death),SMS panel slow or sometimes freeze,Sometimes incoming SMS doesn’t ring or vibrate unless you wake up the screen,weird things popping up if you dont soft reset the phone for some time.
etc etc
In 6.5 Foundation v1.0 I found none of these "instability things".
Plus,this rom has good battery life and good speed,so it is enough for me to recommend this to any challenger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692978
Never found a very stable rom...
I think sense 2.1 is most fast, but i love 2.5 with CHT.
Atm using Core Cell Evo 3.1 because for me this rom is near "bugless".
I love also Energy rom, but it have too many release (not always a new release fix bug) and drain the battery more fast then Core Cell.
U can try use this two rom in titanium mode..
It's just my opinion...
DiAbLoxx83 said:
Never found a very stable rom...
I think sense 2.1 is most fast, but i love 2.5 with CHT.
Atm using Core Cell Evo 3.1 because for me this rom is near "bugless".
I love also Energy rom, but it have too many release (not always a new release fix bug) and drain the battery more fast then Core Cell.
U can try use this two rom in titanium mode..
It's just my opinion...
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Almost all the early roms by Sergio were tried by me,his roms are great with a name for very good battery life, one of my favorite. His roms were like movies directed by James Cameron,everyday i just yearned for his new releases.
Since I flashed 6.5 Foundation v1.0 by Joe User,I have not followed up Sergio's new updates for several months, I will check his threads.
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Almost all the early roms by Sergio were tried by me,his roms are great with a name for very good battery life, one of my favorite. His roms were like movies directed by James Cameron,everyday i just yearned for his new releases.
Since I flashed 6.5 Foundation v1.0 by Joe User,I have not followed up Sergio's new updates for several months, I will check his threads.
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I don't find any screenshot of 6.5 Foundation v1.0
wm6.1
Hi,
I have switched from TytnII to my recent Rhodium.
On both, but especially on my TP2, I have figured out that WM6.1 stock is the best FOR ME. Manila is fine for me.
I have tried other ROMs, stock 6.5 or cooked ROMs, 6.1 or 6.5 no matter, I didn't like them.
I think 6.5 sucks in general. Most of the cooked ROMs contain stuff I don't want, so why have them? I appreciate all the chef's work, no question.
I am not conservative either, I am open to new things.
I will never give up speed and simplicity for eye candy, that's it.
Exactly my thoughts - that was original purpose of LBFAR - Light But Fast And Reliable - using stuff from WM6.1 ROMs (specifically TMOUS one, since it was using one of the last TF3D's, before Sense), keeping it really, really fast and really, really simple with a lot of RAM and ROM after boot.
Vote please for the best one.
so every one can desicde easier.
1) STABILITY-RELIABILITY
2) SPEED
3) GENERAL PERFORMANCE
4) GOOD LOOKING
bluelove2 said:
Vote please for the best one.
so every one can desicde easier.
1) STABILITY-RELIABILITY
2) SPEED
3) GENERAL PERFORMANCE
4) GOOD LOOKING
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There is no best ROM. This question have been asked for over 100 times now. Each one has his own needs.
Maybe the best ROM is the original one + some tweaks.
If you look for speed, than don't choose a ROM with Sense. A clean one should be fast, so look at Lite ROMs.
If you want something good looking and speed, choose a port of X2 ROM, because it looks better than X1 and it's not sluggish like Sense ones. But X2 ports still have some issues so they are not so reliable (Slideview is buggy; if you don't use Slideview it will be a good ROM; whenever I don't want Sense anymore I flash jerpelea's X2 port).
Right now I'm using "Genesis One" ROM. It is one of the fastest Sense ROMs, and has cooked in some programs I usually install (latest version has some unsolved bugs from what I've read, so I don't use latest version).
Another good ROM if you are looking for Sense is 826x one (one of the best contenders for the first place and highly recommendable).
Valkyrie and Energy ROMs have lots of programs I don't use, so I skip them (maybe you'll use those programs so they will be best ones for you).
Jack's v5 is another fast and stable ROM that uses WM 6.5. I haven't tested latest version because I couldn't download it. It has multiple types, so you can choose between lite, medium and full.
I haven't flashed other ROMs lately, so I can't comment about those.
The best ROM is the one YOU like, so read first posts of each ROM thread to see if it contain what you need, and latest posts to see which one is more stable.
Cheers!
The one that doesn't suck. 826x♥
I have a question .
I think the best rom is original rom .
50 % faster than other roms .50 % more STABILITY .never freez .more battery less bugs.
If someone want good looking menu no problem .there is alot of thems like spb mobile shell .
why should I choose other roms ?what is the benefit ?
I voted for the original rom R3AA. It's the most reliable and that's what is most important for me. I don't want to deal with freezes, not working features, synching issues etc. And if you tweak it (increase font size, install spb pocket plus, spb mobile shell, pointui home 2 etc.) it is almost as finger friendly as WM 6.5.
1) STABILITY-RELIABILITY - 826 (used to like Energy/christians, now 826 by a distance)
2) SPEED - 826x doesent slow down muchn after installing all apps etc.
3) GENERAL PERFORMANCE - 826 is very well rounded, though energy isnt bad
4) GOOD LOOKING - Energy (GTX), but i prefer to make my own look, so ir doesnt bother me too much.
To sum up, i dont think the rom cookers have matched the speed and stability of 826x. If only 826x were updated as often as Energy (but his is more stable, so i guess no need)
Edit : would like to try laurenti's as seems tiny!
general performance and for texting = Valkyrie Firestorm. , I tried 826X and energy series (all) although they are fast , needs restarting and for me slow when typing on the on-screen keyboard. Valkyrie Firestorm best used for txting + maxkey + softtouch config. The best. But that's just for me
agrees with cristidotro.
issues like this has been tackled soooo many times already.
it all boils down to your personal choice based on your needs.
best way to know which ROM suits you best? try everything.
there's no easy shortcut. experience is the best teacher.
i arrived with Jack's basic ROM. but that's just me.
There is one very good "old" ROM missing - PCTech4U v.2 - I'm testing a lot of ROM's but still comming back to mentioned ROM. Stable, fast, ...
i never try using other rom except 826x,but i think its pretty satisfying
very fast,responsive,and stable
good job master willy
I think Shady's rom is the most customizable I've ever seen here on the forum. Have a look here
[ROM][Multi-lang][19 langs] Shady313 Make Your Own Series [23134 Release 1][29/08/10]
To bad it's not an option in the poll, otherwise it would have got my vote. Have tried almost all the other roms but this one is the best....if you ask me ;-)
Peter
I just wish more rom cooker include Maxsense! I've just switched to the only x1 Maxsense rom (Energy one). It looks awesome, but a bit slow. I was flashing my sister's Palm Treo Pro to a 6.1 w TF2D rom...and it was BLAZING fast! Lookwise, is a lot to desire.
Sounds like 826x is the most recommended rom, but I think the next rom I'm going to try will be Christian' because I really like the tilewave panel.
Granted, I haven't tested too many ROMs.
But from what I have seen, the 826x Series definately stands out as the most reliable, stable, fast and responsive ROM. It also has a lot of free RAM - for a Sense ROM, that is.
It also looks very nice, though you can possibly find better lookers out there. But doesn't seem like that performance and reliability can be beaten.
i actually like th xpure as the best
used to play around with energy, but the stability of energy is not good enough for me and the battery consumption is pretty fast for its eye candy
moved to 926 for a few days and the stability of it is just awesome. great speed also and that's what i wanted for.
If you want a rom with the latest tech and full of eye candy, energy rom must be your good partner. But for users need stability and speed, 826 series will not disappoint you
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.
Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!
Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it
gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX
I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....
Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.
My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.
My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...
I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!
What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?