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[Q] Market Notifications

Do Market notifications work for anyone? Or is it a known Android issue? Never worked for me and I'm on wifi/cell towers about 50/50.
Does it work in 2.3? I've never seen it work on 2.1 or 2.2. I've only seen it pop up in the notification area when manually checking/downloading an update. (thanks Google! -eye roll-)

Rarely it will pop up for me when I open the market and don't go to my apps. But almost every time its popped up for me was because I went to my apps.
I was really hoping Androids implementation of this would be better than iOS. Especially when froyo let you update all or enable auto update. In reality I think iOS is better (in this one tiny area), because if you open the app store you instantly see updates are available. But in android if you don't go to my apps sometimes it will take several minutes of browsing the market before you are notified.
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I rarely get any Market notifications unless I'm at My Apps in the Market app and let it sit there for a while. It'd be pretty nice if I got notified to update my apps before I go into the Market though, I agree.

always have worked for me whenever i open the Market

Xtracter said:
always have worked for me whenever i open the Market
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Thats the thing....they way the market was sold....so to speak....is that you would get a notification, whenever any app you have installed has an update. Seems most everyone gets that notification after they manually check. Thats what happens with me.

Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
These guys found a way to kick start it a while back, but I can't find the files to do the same for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635050

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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hokiemoto said:
That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
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I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.

pc103 said:
I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.
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Gotcha. Regardless, I don't see any point in having update Notifications if it requires you to keep the Market app running constantly. I assumed Google had it connected to one of the basic Android services that always run in the background.
In the link in my last post, they talk about a value in a settings.db that triggers a CheckinService. Stuff that I can't find on our phones.

It's an interesting question. I got notifications regularly in 2.1 and can't recall when I got one in 2.2. I kept background data enabled under both.
Checking Manage Applications, Market Updater 1.0 only shows up when viewing All, and appears to be a dead service even when Market is running. I never checked it under 2.1 because it appeared to work.

Mine has never worked...only when I open the market does it decide to tell me I have a update!

Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.

mansared said:
Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.
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Only in notification bar is what's expected. And it doesn't happen.

[Q] Cannot update multiple installed apps, is it the new market?

Anyone else noticing that since getting the new market, multiple apps on the Nook Color won't update? They just show open, and I presume would not let you install them at all?
The new Windows Phone 7 clone market seems to show apps even if you can't install them, so sounds like that's what's going on but can't figure out why.
Waze, Facebook, Wifi Analyzer.. I think I saw another one too.
Solution is found, although still a tad quirky. You must have the new market and follow this procedure:
skwalas said:
Ah hah! You are correct. Clearing market data at 161 caused me to lose my apps again. So it seems the full process is as follows: (and note I've never force closed the app, not sure why that should be necessary.
1) set dpi to 160 in build.prop
2) reboot
3) clear market app data (force close first may help?)
4) restart market, accept terms, let it rebuild data at 160 dpi
5) profit
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And another procedure, similar, with a few extra steps.
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Posting my results, might help someone
Preface: NC running cm7 7.1.0 rc-1 on sandisk cl4 16gb card with 0.5 random write, 32 queue depth... See my post in the sd card performance topic
Downloaded and installed lcd density app
Choose 160 dpi
Choose reboot via first option, kill
After rebooting, run market
Notice its still broken
Goto running app/services
Kill 2 market services
Goto installed app list
Force quit market app
Clear data
Run market
Accept
Full market front screen with movies, books, apps, etc
Was able to update 12 apps that didnt have update icons since i downloaded new market app.
I just did that, so i will post back if it has problems and or stops working in the future
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If you update your CM7 or otherwise go back to 161 DPI, the market will eventually stop letting you update again. You can redo the procedure above to fix it. And if you you find your Apps list is empty you can try using AppBrain, it will list updates and you can update them one at a time. Not sure about installing new apps that otherwise would be "incompatible" this way, however.
Thanks to everyone that figured this stuff out, the two posts above are only examples which seem to work, there are other folks who started the ball rolling towards a solution.

New market updates multiple apps for me.
Only problem is that sometimes even if some app is already updated, it still shows it at updating list.

i constantly have to clear data for the new market to work properly. Have you tried that? I know after I clear data I get a notification that updates are available.

mrkavanagh said:
i constantly have to clear data for the new market to work properly. Have you tried that? I know after I clear data I get a notification that updates are available.
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By that do you mean clear the notification list? I wouldn't want anyone to read that and go ahead and wipe their data.

Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data.
I constantly have to do this as well.

RASTAVIPER said:
New market updates multiple apps for me.
Only problem is that sometimes even if some app is already updated, it still shows it at updating list.
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Oh, sure, it's updating some apps.. Just some are showing up without the ability to update.
Like I know at least a few apps have updated and they don't show up as needing updates. Or look at Appbrain, you can always see app updates there regardless of the market.
Seems like it's just filtering more apps than it used to. I'm about to remove the new market, it sucks anyway.

Silly question, but how do you guy get the new Market?

votinh said:
Silly question, but how do you guy get the new Market?
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Installed automatically on my NC.. Lucky me. There are also apk's floating around.

I'm having a similar problem since updating to nightly 142. Certain icons are no longer visible in Launcher, Advanced Uninstaller, or Titanium Backup. When I visit the Market I'm not given the download box in the header or an update option. Almost as if the app is incompatible with the device. I tried the Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data procedure with no different result. I did get the message when returning to Market, so I guess I cleared something. The effected apps ( that I'm concerned about ) are Facebook and, of course, Angry Birds. Couple others as well. Thanks for any suggestions

416inversed said:
Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data.
I constantly have to do this as well.
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^THIS...Oh SO much THIS
I had to do this today so that nook tweaks would update

khaytsus said:
Installed automatically on my NC.. Lucky me. There are also apk's floating around.
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Thanks, m8.
You aren't the first one saying "it automatically updated" but surprisingly, mine doesn't. Don't know why.
Yes, I can see some Vendor (Vending?).apk floating around the net but no clue which version they are.

Maugchief said:
I'm having a similar problem since updating to nightly 142. Certain icons are no longer visible in Launcher, Advanced Uninstaller, or Titanium Backup. When I visit the Market I'm not given the download box in the header or an update option. Almost as if the app is incompatible with the device. I tried the Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data procedure with no different result. I did get the message when returning to Market, so I guess I cleared something. The effected apps ( that I'm concerned about ) are Facebook and, of course, Angry Birds. Couple others as well. Thanks for any suggestions
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Didn't help the issue at hand here for me either, unfortunately..

Sorry you're having the same issues. I also posted to the cyanogen forums and am still waiting for another reply to the post. That's where the Titanium Backup suggestion came from. Here's hoping for another suggestion here.

It doesn't seem like the market notifies you if an app needs a manual update due to changing permissions anymore. Also I get a Appstore and market both saying I need to update Amazon mp3 and after I update one the other app store will still say it's not updated so you have to update again in order to clear the two out
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I am having the same issue as the OP. Agenda Widget Plus and Facebook disappeared from my "MyApps" list but can be found by searching. I have the new market and going into settings to clear data and cache for market did not help. Had been working without issue previously. I am running n146.
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I disabled MarketUpdater.apk last night and uninstalled Market updates and I STILL am having problems with SOME apps.
Oddly, I can see Waze again, but I still cannot 'see' the Plus version of Android Agenda Widget and a few others. I CAN see the free version of Android Agenda Widget, go figure. For some reason I can usually see apps in AppBrain that need updating, but those apps have also disappeared from AppBrain, so I'm not sure what I'm missing currently.
Damn you Google, what are you doing?

Same situation for me. Went to a backup of an earlier nightly that still had the old market and even there Agenda Widget Plus was missing. Also checked the android market web site and it shows Agenda Widget as incompatible with NC. How does the market determine whether an app is compatible with a device? I contacted the Agenda Widget developer and he said he had not changed anything.
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elwood1229 said:
Same situation for me. Went to a backup of an earlier nightly that still had the old market and even there Agenda Widget Plus was missing. Also checked the android market web site and it shows Agenda Widget as incompatible with NC. How does the market determine whether an app is compatible with a device? I contacted the Agenda Widget developer and he said he had not changed anything.
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I'd kinda like to know that as well. When I originally downloaded the crappy Facebook app I had no problem. But when I go to the market on the website now it says it is not compatible even though it works fine. I suspect now that the market is "device aware" any of my installed apps that get updates will not show if the app is no longer considered compatible so I will be stuck with the older version.

patruns said:
I'd kinda like to know that as well. When I originally downloaded the crappy Facebook app I had no problem. But when I go to the market on the website now it says it is not compatible even though it works fine. I suspect now that the market is "device aware" any of my installed apps that get updates will not show if the app is no longer considered compatible so I will be stuck with the older version.
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My guess is that Facebook can use the GPS, or Microphone, Camera... some hardware we don't have.
This is new behavior, at least changed behavior, and it's very annoying.

I've read that "device aware" suggestion in a few places, and decided to try the build.prop edit that I've read about elsewhere. Changed the device name to Samsung S and manufacturer to samsung. It didn't make a difference. I also can't understand why Angry Birds and Checkers could be device specific. The Market definitely knows I've got Nook because it is grayed out in the drop down box. I hope brighter minds than mine can come up with a work around.

Hyperdroid (Pongster) - Can't install GMaps, Facebook etc.

Hi there,
I just re-installed my favorite Rom and I remember that it asked me in the beginning which programs I want to install. It was specific to the ROM and had maybe 20 different major apps like GMail, Google Maps or Facebook on it. Some apps returned with an error message, that they couldnt be downloaded.
So after looking up GMaps or Facebook on the market, they show up but the Install Button does not so there is no way for me get it off the market. I checked my phone but no GMaps to be found, I tried installing it from other sources but can't seem to find it anywhere. Is my last resort to manually go through the .apk? Or has anyone had this problem before and knows what to do?
thanks

Make a backup of "MarketUpdater.apk" located in "/system/app/" using any root explorer app (or use adb). After making the backup, delete the application. Then go to Settings > Apps > Manage Apps > Market > "Uninstall updates" .. when you get the old market back you can install any app you want.
That's a known issue in the new market.

Hm how do I completely delete the android market from my phone? I managed to download the android market apk, uninstalled the updates but still same issue. I think I need to completely uninstall the app, just not sure how to do that

brutzel1 said:
Hm how do I completely delete the android market from my phone? I managed to download the android market apk, uninstalled the updates but still same issue. I think I need to completely uninstall the app, just not sure how to do that
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I had a similar issue with some apps in the new android market. I finally read in a post here on XDA that the market does not work with certain LCD densities. I had mine set to 200 and had to change it to 240 and that solved my inability to download google maps and other apps. So give that a shot and let me know what happens.

sizz-lorr! said:
I had a similar issue with some apps in the new android market. I finally read in a post here on XDA that the market does not work with certain LCD densities. I had mine set to 200 and had to change it to 240 and that solved my inability to download google maps and other apps. So give that a shot and let me know what happens.
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That was it! Thanks! Although it means Im gonna have to go back to 240 which just looks awful

brutzel1 said:
That was it! Thanks! Although it means Im gonna have to go back to 240 which just looks awful
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:/ sorry. but that's why the new market is not included in the newest version of hyperdroid cm7.

I solved the same problem with "Market enabler"
https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler&feature=more_from_developer
chose T-mobile

I have the same problem with the old market, manually updating to the new one makes no difference. Funnily, using typhoon I can set my density to any I like. Market enabler made no difference. What's really weird is that it only seems to affect some phones. I have a sneaking suspicion it's a tmous issue.
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Missing Market Updates - don't show

I've been using DROIDs since DROID 1, then X, and now Bionic.
I have the issue on my Bionic: I'll get a notification that an App has an update. When I select the app from my notification pane, it opens Android Market and takes me to the My Apps view. However, no apps display as needing updates. (Yes, I'm sure it's a notification to update an app and not the notification that an app has been updated (auto updates)).
I can go through all my downloaded apps and none of them show as "updateable." Sometimes it displays, that there are more than one (like 3) apps that have an update, but again, when I go to My Apps, I can't find any app that has an update - there is no update button only Open and Uninstall.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this issue?

Have you changed the LCD density at all? That gives me various problems. I always have to grab an older version of the market place to update.

KTrentLR said:
I've been using DROIDs since DROID 1, then X, and now Bionic.
I have the issue on my Bionic: I'll get a notification that an App has an update. When I select the app from my notification pane, it opens Android Market and takes me to the My Apps view. However, no apps display as needing updates. (Yes, I'm sure it's a notification to update an app and not the notification that an app has been updated (auto updates)).
I can go through all my downloaded apps and none of them show as "updateable." Sometimes it displays, that there are more than one (like 3) apps that have an update, but again, when I go to My Apps, I can't find any app that has an update - there is no update button only Open and Uninstall.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this issue?
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I know what you're talking about. I've found when that happens, it's usually tied to a system app or a preinstalled app, such as Gmail, YouTube, or Zumocast.
Annoying.

mistawolfe said:
I know what you're talking about. I've found when that happens, it's usually tied to a system app or a preinstalled app, such as Gmail, YouTube, or Zumocast.
Annoying.
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I concur, I had the issue as well and updating the pre-installed crapware seemed to remedy the issue.

This has been happening to me as well, and it's not always system apps. Yesterday I had the notification in the morning, with no app showing up to be updated. However, I checked the market later last night, and Swiftkey X was showing up. (I had read that Swiftkey had an update earlier in the day, as I recalled when I saw that.)
It could be that the apps are sending notifications before they hit the market, or it could be that the market app has issues. I think it's the latter. I generally used to check the market for updates when I plug in the phone when going to bed at night, and I may start doing that again.
I hate the new market - since the last few updates (when it got its current new look, with books and movies) the market has been pretty crappy.

Same thing here. I get the notification, but there are no apps showing as having update available. If I go through the apps one by one I can usually find some with updates. I also have apps mysteriously disappear from time to time. I went to open Gentle Alarm last night and it wasnt there anymore, I re-downloaded it and it installed and all my settings were still there. Strange.

For some reason, it keeps changing from your default account to a secondary account. I have two Google accounts on my phone; one for personal and one for work. If you go into Market and then hit menu, accounts-you will notice it changed your default account. I haven't figured out why it does this-my OG never did.

Could it, in part, be due to applications that were set to auto-update?

aac230 said:
For some reason, it keeps changing from your default account to a secondary account. I have two Google accounts on my phone; one for personal and one for work. If you go into Market and then hit menu, accounts-you will notice it changed your default account. I haven't figured out why it does this-my OG never did.
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This happened to me this morning, but changing the account showed me the applications that needed updating. If anyone knows why the account changes, I'd like to know!

[Q] Phone thinks I have an app update, but nothing on Market page?

Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?

What exactly, quoted, does the notification say? A lot of apps are set to update automatically, these apps might be telling you they were updated, not that an update was just available.

Quick tip: you can always go the market page for each app to see when it was last updated. Totemo is here, and it appears it hasn't updated since July 29.
Mine will sometimes say that there are more updates than there really are, but I've never had it tell me there's an update when there isn't yet. Have you used Titanium to freeze any apps, by chance?

minmongoblin said:
Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?
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Your apps disappear cause some of the by default get installed to your media. You can fix this by going to settings /applications /manage apps/media area and the O. Es that have a check mark by them, click on it and select move to phone and they won't disappear anymore. As far as the updates go, and as the other post says apps are set to update automatically and thats why you can't see them. It's just letting you know an update has been done. Hope this helps

I had a customer with this problem yesterday. Try going to market>menu>my apps> then look at each non installed app and look for ones that say "update" (for him it was myverizon and vz tones)
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There are a few different threads on this......what is happening is your default account is switching over to a secondary account. If you go into accounts under the market menu and switch your account, you will see there is in fact an update for an app purchased on the other account. I am desperately searching for a fix to this. I now have apps split between the two accounts and if it weren't for my company using G-apps for e-mail now, I would delete second account.

aac230 said:
There are a few different threads on this......what is happening is your default account is switching over to a secondary account. If you go into accounts under the market menu and switch your account, you will see there is in fact an update for an app purchased on the other account. I am desperately searching for a fix to this. I now have apps split between the two accounts and if it weren't for my company using G-apps for e-mail now, I would delete second account.
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This is not happening for me. I have only one google account on the phone. I have turned off automatic update for each app where it was turned on. I get a notification every day that there is an app with an update; open the notification and find that there are no apps available to update.
This version of the market has issues, for sure.

Just go to settings/apps & clear market data. You might also have to do that if you have updated an app outside the market.

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Just go to settings/apps & clear market data. You might also have to do that if you have updated an app outside the market.
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I've tried that; it doesn't fix the problem (and I have no non-market apps installed.) It's more of an annoyance than anything, but I just wanted to point out that this is not always explained by an app with automatic updates enabled (which should give a notification of their own, by the way), or having a second Google account on the phone. The market app is problematic, period.

minmongoblin said:
Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?
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I get this too sometimes and find it to be Verizon apps like "Verizon Video". When you go to "My Apps" in the market scroll to the very bottom of the list and you might see it there. That's where I found my missing updates.

Yep most often Verizon apps. Annoying
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