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Hello guys!
I have the phone for 3-4 months now, and I used the camera only 3 times.
I noticed that the white color is very bright, and the photo becomes bad (please look at the photos attached). Can you tell me if your camera is having the same problem, or it's only me ?
If it's only me - do you have idea how can I try to fix it ?
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I changed the ROM 3 times /No difference
I changed the brightness/contrast in the settings, but there is no big difference ( the photo becomes better if I use brightness+contrast = max, but still the white is very bright)
both of these images are backlit... this is very hard for the camera to do, because the foreground is a low light situation... try to adjust the angle of the shot to avoid this situation. In the attached photos I have demonstrated what I am trying to say. These are pics of my 20 year old Cocker Spaniel, Sheeba. Notice in pic 01.jpg, her face is blown out. But in the second it is actually better, and in the third (as I move further around her) her face is now clearly visible.
Remember this is a Pocket PC, with a camera chip. Not a camera with a Pocket PC attached. With that in mind, this camera does a phenomenal job!
Hope this helps!
Also it looks like your lens is dirty, and make sure that the blue plastic is pulled off inside the battery cover...
For the picture of the child tilting the camera down more would have helped the light metering compensate better, see all of the area above his head, that is where most of the metering is taking place.
here is another example
You can also try lowering the brightness down to -1.5 or to your liking. It might help a little bit (it does to me)
Thanks a lot for the tips guys!
From what I'm seeing here the Tilt has just bad camera...
My wife has Samsung U600(with 3MP camera) and the pictures are way better than the Tilt ones.I guess I'll just use her phone.
Thanks again for your help!
You should try the camera outside in the daylight with a front-lit subject before you condemn it.... post some pics from your wifes Samsung for us to view then
Here is how the camera would have metered it (photoshop profile) had you not included the area where all of the light was.
The camera does work pretty awesome with the proper lighting...
Notice in the first two, pointing the camera down, so that the car is the majority of the picture, the camera meters for the car, overexposing the sky. Put pointing the camera up underexposes the car, but the sky is brilliant blue, instead of white....
Now I am not saying that this camera doesn't have problems... on the contrary, this camera has a light leak.. which is clearly obvious when every picture taken has the same Spike in photoshop's histogram. But an ounce of prevention, in this case is truly worth a pound of cure! Play with the camera, experiment with all of the settings, find out what you like best. But most important, just pay attention to the screen and move the camera up, or down, left, or right ever so slightly and watch how the exposure changes... It won't take long before you can take great pictures with it!
Oh yeah, and clean that lens every time you use it!
Hi guys... i'm new in this forum and i'm a brazilian, so sorry for my bad english
I've got my tytn some weeks ago, but i have a little problem... When I take any photos with the back camera (the 3.0mp one), it always ends up VERY blurred. I've noted that before pressing half-camera button, the camera image is nice, but when i take the photo or press half button, the camera image begins to blur. So, i think this is some problem with the auto-focus feature.
A curious note is that when i take/focus photos from very close (aprox 2-5cm from the camera), doesn't show any blur at all... but more far than that it gets completely blurred. And before doing any focusing, the camera picture isn't blurred at all.
The front camera photos don't get blurred because they haven't got any auto-focus, so the pics are shot instantenously.
Anybody has any idea of how fix that blur in the back camera? or at least how to deactivate the auto-focus so i can take some pic from distance?
Oh yes, i already cleaned the lens from inside and outside.
Thank everybody for the patience, and sorry for the bad english
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
neonspeed1995 said:
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
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Yeah, i've tried that, but the photo still come blurred without the battery cover.
If you guys want, i can take some photos and upload them so you guys can see the blurred photos.
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
KD8DNS said:
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
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I use an original WM 6.1 rom, build 3.28.405.0 WWE from date 05/02/08
My radio is version 1.65.17.56
Just a note, this rom was flashed, my original rom was a 6.0 one with radio version 1.26.xx and rom build 1.7xxx from 2007 (i can't remember)
but even with the out of the box rom, the camera wasn't right, I think (I haven't used the camera until a little time ago)
BAD HTC autofocus
I have exactly the same problem with my Polaris Htc!! Please find a solution!!!I tried everything to resolve it but nothing worked. SOme people say it is a hardware problem, but i hope it is a software problem...
Please help me!!!
Thanks for all
Fishos
try updating your camera app to this one
Nadavi's Camera
make sure u install HTC album first or else the Camera app will show a black screen while taking pics.
Also make sure your environment is well light and hold the camera still while takings pics, HTC didnt exactly make the best camera for this phone.
i had the exact same problem with my htc kaiser.
after 1 1/2 year, i decided to send it back to t-mobile to have it replaced due to a hardware warranty issue. the knew about the problem. there seems to be something wrong with the lense/sensor the auto-fokus uses. dunno.
about 2 days later i got my replacement tilt (refurbished one), reflashed to a anryl wm6.5 rom i used before and now the picture are way better
so you might try to get yours replaced.
The point is: your autofocus does not keep its parameters while the image is shot. Try hard resetting Kaiser, then install Nadavi's patch mentioned above, add latest HTC Camera and welcome!
P.S. If you do really need a cam in your Kaiser, switch to Android. Some builds support the camera, but it is... manual. I mean, you focus with a scroller wheel: far from perfect, but in some 50 pics taken you'll be into it quite nicely.
set the camera button to take the picture immediately and not full press
Hi,
Something I've tried to to find the answer to, but so far have been unable to do so - the camera performance has always been terrible on my tytn2. I've tried a range of different roms, but none have made any difference to the camera.
My understanding is that it is important to have a radio that works with the rom you are using, but can I get better camera performance by using a different radio?
Currently I am using "07/10[Super Ram][CHOME][Manilla] Josh's Kaiser Roms+Kitchen "21929 Hybrid Light" - a great rom, and my radio is 1.65.16.25.
I would really appreciate it if anyone can give me any pointers with this or otherwise help me get better camera performance (the tytn2 is an amazing phone, the camera is the only problem I have with it).
Cheers
Moved as not ROM Development...
The camera is just whack anyway unless in ideal light situations.
Typically the camera will either work or not work at all depending on the Radio, unfortunately the Kaiser's camera (and all cellphone cameras in general) is not the greatest in low light so you are pretty much stuck with what you got.
Thanks for the responses. It's not so much the camera performance in terms of picture quality, but the terrible lag when taking pictures - there is a two second or more delay between pressing the camera button and the picture taking. This always results in pictures that are extremely blurred.
Turn off the full press and also the shutter noise...
I tried everything possible with my tytn to improve camera , however it was all pointless since it could not be done.
Well not quite. In my frustration with a few things which aren't perfect in Shifu's latest ROM (hey, it's pretty darn nice for the most part, even M2D is running well for the first time in my experience of over 20 WM6.5 ROM versions, mostly on the Elfin, 3 on this Kaiser), I did some searching for a camera video frame rate solution. Found one. I've already forgotten the link (since reading it this afternoon), but it's so simple there's no need to go looking. Here's the procedure. Works in any lower light situation, as in not broad daylight. Haven't test it it outside in daylight yet, but it might even work there, will find out tomorrow.
1) Open camera application.
2) Put hand over lens to create a black screen.
3) Turn off power. (This part is a bit of a stumbling block for those with slide to unlock or a password active - have to have those turned off for this to work.)
4) Keep the hand (or whatever, doesn't matter so long as it blocks light) over the lens for at least a second.
5) Take off the hand.
6) Press the power button again.
7) Start shooting when you like.
8) Enjoy what looks like 30fps video, much improved autofocus and shutter response times, and unfortunately, darker images. So still not a great low-light camera, but indoors in average conditions or even somewhat dim light it's not bad at all for a phone camera. Took me a few tries to nail down the procedure and be able to reproduce the effect every time, but five minute's practice at most.
Apparently the vast improvement in frame rate and general responsiveness globally in the camera's operation and settings dialogues is over-ridden if one points the camera at a light source or brighter reflective objects. I find it stays stable during a session even if I point it directly at a 20W halogen light from 6 feet away, but your mileage may vary.
Another tip would be to avoid the double-take of the autofocus algorithm. Bloody thing focuses on a half-press, then focuses all over again, blurring out then returning to sharpness, on full shutter press. So either go to half-press shooting, or use the D-pad centre button to shoot pictures and videos, as this is a single-stage switch.
In my case, running Shifu's latest ROM from December and his recommended radio, and just this evening flashing Kaiser-HardSPL-3.56, I find the video frame rate to be about 2 to 3 frames per second without this trick, and well above 20fps with the trick. Awesome. A little bit irritating too, having to do this silly little button sequence thing, but it's better than having to go hunting for my 'real' camera when a video opportunity presents itself and the Kaiser will take less than 10 seconds to get ready, and getting the proper camera will take over a minute of walking and digging and powering on... As has so often been said in web discussions of phone cameras, it's not so much the quality of your best camera that's important in everyday use, it's whether you have a working camera with you that counts. And this little trick makes the camera I ALWAYS have with me a whole lot more usable.
Now, if only there were a way to get Resco Audio Recorder to make clear 2-sided recordings of my calls. Worked like a dream on the HTC Touch Elfin. All I hear is remote, static-distorted voices with this Kaiser. Seems from discussions that this is a hardware limitation. Hope not. And it'd be nice too if the device weren't cranky about my 8GB microSD. Seems a tad unstable at times. Same for considerable numbers of other users, so maybe another hardware limitation? Hope it's drivers, and that some genius presents an update.
GerardSamija,
Yeah that's an old trick but not perfect as tends to dim the light and when hit by a large light flips back to the slow fps another one is to remove the plastic cover on case covering lens.
I gave up using camera unless outside & it's the same issue on Touch Pro even with the built in flash "well light really"
2 Side Voice Recording on Kaiser **WORKS**
Thank you very much for that stylez. I'm reading through the pages of that thread, and while so far the latest CAB there hasn't quite made decent quality two-way recording for my Kaiser, it's considerably improved from what it was yesterday. Nice.
Trying the 'old' camera trick (sorry for re-publishing ancient news - I've only had this Kaiser a few days, so just getting caught up. On testing it this morning I found a number of tries didn't work at all. Not sure why. Then just now I tried it again and it worked fine, though delivering only about 15 to 20fps, not quite smooth. I did back to back tests without and then with the trick, and there was about a tripling of framerate from A to B. Guess I'll just have to keep practicing to get it down solid.
And I probably will remove part of the shielding over the camera lens, carefully. The lens in the body itself has a flat glass cover so no real risk of damage there, as it's recessed behind the battery cover. Occasional cleaning of dust is necessary anyway with a pocketable camera, so this just adds the step of slipping off the battery cover to do that. The phone I have was used for a few months, then left in an office drawer for over a year. Not a lot of wear, but obviously some fine scratching of the coating on the camera lens protective filter. Removing it will improve imaging, and the glass lens cover beneath is about the same as on my old HTC Elfin. That one has held up very well.
I hear windex helps.
ChumleyEX said:
I hear windex helps.
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lol ya i gave up using the camera really, i know im just caring around a big brick, with the advantage that its touch screen and has a keyboard... otherwise its not used much for anything else, unfortunately there are a million other phones that would meet this basic need, though im not getting burned by HTC again or any other phone maker...
I'm getting better at the timing with tricking the camera into responding quickly for stills, and getting 15fps and better almost all the time. This afternoon was fairly sunny here, and I shot a few videos of my son at the playground. Checking them later on my Asus 901 they look quite good. And contrary to many comments saying pointing at bright light kills the effect, I was able to shoot almost directly into the sun without losing frame rate.
Oddly, VLC gives an audio codec cannot be found error. Guess I'm off for yet another codec hunt. Windows 7 has mostly been pretty solid in supporting things like that, but I guess VLC stands apart from the OS in terms of codecs.
Windex? Nah, bit of a rub with a shirt end is fine. It's not a camera for making museum grade images. It's convenient, when I don't want to carry a bulky HD camera with proper optics around with me.
My camera has problem like this. i took 2 shots at the same place and with the same light !
In the past:
https://www.box.com/s/f3902817ef5ad81bc399
Now
http://nn9.upanh.com/b3.s29.d2/29f6452fb48a8c1e1769eaa358bb9c72_45968999.20120611092426.jpg
Anyone know how to fix ? Thanks
Some obvious things:
- Have you changed ROMs/Kernels between shots?
- Did you change any camera settings? White balance maybe?
- Have you checked the lens to make sure it is clean?
Bit hard to tell what has happened without knowing the above.
TempusFudgeIt said:
Some obvious things:
- Have you changed ROMs/Kernels between shots?
- Did you change any camera settings? White balance maybe?
- Have you checked the lens to make sure it is clean?
Bit hard to tell what has happened without knowing the above.
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Thanks
+ I have tried several ROM (stock GB, stock ICS, CM9), and still got this problem
+ I did not change any thing in setting
+ How can i check lens ?
Not sure there is a way to check lens apart from viewing through camera. I clean mine with an alcohol wipe when I clean the back of the case. You may have some grime on it.
If you have used different ROMs then must be related to the lens I would think. I have noticed that the camera is not so good in room under night time conditions, but does do excellent job outside. Have you tried taking outside shots during the day?
TempusFudgeIt said:
Not sure there is a way to check lens apart from viewing through camera. I clean mine with an alcohol wipe when I clean the back of the case. You may have some grime on it.
If you have used different ROMs then must be related to the lens I would think. I have noticed that the camera is not so good in room under night time conditions, but does do excellent job outside. Have you tried taking outside shots during the day?
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+ Do you need to disassemble your phone before clean lens ?
+ I have tried taking outside shots, and results were the same
No - I onlu clean outside of it very carefully. If you have done that and outside shots are the same then it seems like it is a hardware problem. Did you take any shots of the Sun (silly question I know but with the Transit of Venus last week some people may have pointed phone at Sun and cooked their photo receptor)
THe only other thing I can suggest is to select Reset from Camera settings and then see if that undoes any weird settings that are affecting the picture.
TempusFudgeIt said:
No - I onlu clean outside of it very carefully. If you have done that and outside shots are the same then it seems like it is a hardware problem. Did you take any shots of the Sun (silly question I know but with the Transit of Venus last week some people may have pointed phone at Sun and cooked their photo receptor)
THe only other thing I can suggest is to select Reset from Camera settings and then see if that undoes any weird settings that are affecting the picture.
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I checked again, and maybe my camera has had problem since taking this pic:
http://nn4.upanh.com/b2.s26.d1/9a916f303b6cda5e4838c6f8a17ebe1a_45974474.20120524215922.jpg
Did you reset the camera settings? Does look like you have some sort of effect on the camera like a pinhole
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Did you reset the camera settings? Does look like you have some sort of effect on the camera like a pinhole
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Yes, i reseted camera setting. Maybe i have to bring it to Samsung care
Yes, sorry. Can't think of what else it could be. Good luck
Yesterday I bought a used (yet excellent condition) M7_UL. I was hyped for a bit, unlocked the bootloader, flashed recovery, rooted, and installed some roms. Eventually I settled on GPE+ 3.0.2 but my joy was short lived.
I soon noticed very weird behavior of the focus. (I've owned 3 other M7s and neither behaved like this).
The camera finds it really hard to focus on anything further than... let's say a foot. When I does, it's enough to ever-so-slightly move the device by 1mm and it will lose focus, even with AF and AE locked before capture. At times, it will lose focus even on a tripod - I tap to focus, make sure it really is in focus and wait. A few moments later focus is lost. Tried this outdoors, where light variations are expected, and also indoors. Same thing.
It does have an easier time focusing on objects closer than a foot or so, but the behavior is similar. Just wait or move the device in the slightest and focus is lost.
More than this, while it tries to focus, there are some strange going-ons with the camera and it's viewfinder - screen tearing, shaking, jittering... I'm really not sure how to explain it so I've uploaded a video.
https://youtu.be/B7Jla932rJY
I've done a couple of hours of research and I think I eliminated most obvious culprits. I've thoroughly cleaned the lens cover, gave the phone a tap on the back, threw it on my bed, snapped it against my thigh, thinking maybe it's jammed , cleaned data of the app, tried stock, and several 3rd party apps.
Nothing did anything.
Can anyone offer some insight, please?
zgomot said:
Yesterday I bought a used (yet excellent condition) M7_UL. I was hyped for a bit, unlocked the bootloader, flashed recovery, rooted, and installed some roms. Eventually I settled on GPE+ 3.0.2 but my joy was short lived.
I soon noticed very weird behavior of the focus. (I've owned 3 other M7s and neither behaved like this).
The camera finds it really hard to focus on anything further than... let's say a foot. When I does, it's enough to ever-so-slightly move the device by 1mm and it will lose focus, even with AF and AE locked before capture. At times, it will lose focus even on a tripod - I tap to focus, make sure it really is in focus and wait. A few moments later focus is lost. Tried this outdoors, where light variations are expected, and also indoors. Same thing.
It does have an easier time focusing on objects closer than a foot or so, but the behavior is similar. Just wait or move the device in the slightest and focus is lost.
More than this, while it tries to focus, there are some strange going-ons with the camera and it's viewfinder - screen tearing, shaking, jittering... I'm really not sure how to explain it so I've uploaded a video.
https://youtu.be/B7Jla932rJY
I've done a couple of hours of research and I think I eliminated most obvious culprits. I've thoroughly cleaned the lens cover, gave the phone a tap on the back, threw it on my bed, snapped it against my thigh, thinking maybe it's jammed , cleaned data of the app, tried stock, and several 3rd party apps.
Nothing did anything.
Can anyone offer some insight, please?
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dont know about GPE but CM has some issues with camera
try going back to HTC STOCK ROM and see if the problem persists