Has anyone else had problems with the time stamps for Chomp and/or Handcent after updating to rooted 2.2 on their DroidX? The timestamps are correct in the native messaging app, but everything shows up with a time stamp 5 hours earlier than the actual time received.
Yeah a lot of people are reporting it. It's a widespread issue.
Yes I have definitely noticed this as well as it randomly moving my picture messages to different places than they originated (if that makes any sense...)
i'm almost fed up to the point where I want to go back to stock . .
Both devs are good about updating bugs, it is probably an easy fix that they will have corrected in a couple of days.
Handcent just updated theirs and fixed time stamp issue on froyo for Droid x was in the release notes
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Handcent is back up for me with correct time stamp and I can't recreate my MMS issue which is cool.
Another thing I love about switching to android...bug fixes don't take extra time for approvals...ahhhhh life is sweet!
Guess on to handcent
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After the handcent update my timestamp is fast an hour.
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Ugh...noticing the time stamp bug again. 3 hours ahead but only on a couple of texts.
Anybody else?
If you're still seeing a timestamp issue, install Handcent, then optionally go into settings and toy with the Timestamp adjust option until it shows up correctly. I don't believe this will have any effect on the native app, and for some reason conversations may still show in the wrong order in the convo list, but at least the messages are in the right order.
I'm still having the problem. Changing the offset does nothing.
Are you testing by sending new messages after changing the offset or just looking to see if it fixed the messages you already recieved?
I'm pretty sure changing the offset will only fix the order of newly recived messages since the change, and only in the Handcent app. Keep in mind, it will not fix the order on the conversations screen. Only when you tap through to see each conversation.
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I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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that's interesting cuz i was having similar issues as well.. not all the time, but just had that first occurence yesterday. Have you tried sending a message and waiting for the "spinning" timer disappear before exiting the convo?
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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Yeah, I have. It works fine on my gf fascinate, but not mine. Funny thing is, I've gone all the way back to stock and still won't work. Maybe a network profile thing.
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I have a similar problem except SMS works fine for me but I cannot receive MMS messages. I can send MMS fine though... I hope 2.2 will fix it.
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
ithecho84 ,
Contact tech support and have the "flush" out your cell number. I had the same problem with my DROID and they did something to the switch in the network and I have never had an issue with MMS ever again.
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Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
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I am the same person.
I also know exactly what the apps I remove do.
None of the apps I removed affect sms to cause the issues I am having.
My g/f has the same phone. I have removed the same apps on hers, she doesn't have the issues.
I have a buddy with a droid incredible on CM6, he flashed a new radio and couldn't text his GF, but only her.
I have another friend with a Droid2 who cannot use handcent.
The handcent boards have posts from people on every network with various phone who have various issues.
I never had a problem with handcent on my N1.
So then, Mr. Logic boy. Put that together for me with the pieces I have given you.
let me know what you come up with.
P.S.: You may have missed the "I went back to stock and it still didn't work" part of This Thread.
Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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The sns enable the syncing with the integrated Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace clients into your address book and the TouchWiz widgets. I have no use for these, as to me it's unnecessary contact clutter, and sync drain to boot.
The stock Mms app can be replaced, and has been, but I use the stock for the ability to select multiple recipients which is absent in the Android stock mms.
I haven't figured out all the differences between the Verizon and T-mo network stuff yet, but I will do some research as I have time, because I am 90% sure my problem lies there. The tech support I've been able to get through to seems uninterested in any kind of in depth troubleshooting, instead urging me to replace the handset, which I will not do.
I had same issue and I uninstall and put it back without using the back up data from a back up . Worked great .
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If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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OMG.
I hate when something that drives you completely crazy is this simple.
Why in the hell doesn't Verizon know this? ha. Thanx.
Daswolven said:
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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I was wondering if you resolved your problem with Handcent? I have a problem now where if I try and attach a picture to a mms directly from the camera Handcent force closes. I tried the same thing with the stock MMS and same result. I went to Rom Manager and downloaded the MMS.apk for the ROM that I am running. I tried it again on Handcent, same result, but I was able to do it from the stock MMS I downloaded. I personally like all the options that Handcent has and would like to know if you have any suggestions regarding my problem.
Yeppers. Whatever the issue was stopped after I changed my methods of building from stock a bit.
Never managed to pin point it.
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I'm confused by the notes about the "+" in front of phone numbers? Why would you have a "+" like that, and what does that have to do with GSM? Furthermore, can you send a text to these numbers with the stock Messaging app, but NOT Handcent? Or does it work in neither? Thanks.
If you find a specific, reproduceable issue with Handcent though, especially if you know the cause, let me know if you want, because I've been working with one of the developers (or the developer, I'm not sure) - Jack, directly and frequently. I'm the one that cleaned up the Handcent forums to get rid of all the spam threads/users recently (if you've ever been there, you'll know how horrible it was prior), and helped him get it changed over to SMF from phpbb2, etc. I'm also a mod on the forums there, and I've been testing a few bugs directly with him, on beta builds of Handcent. So I can certainly bring something to his attention directly if it warrants it.
I've scoured the forums for an answer but all of these seemed to be pointing to the actual stock SMS app or another like Handcent.
What I'm talking about is that on third party applications that send SMS data to a server, the timestamp (apparently for all motorola phones) is delayed on applications such as:
DeskSMS
Web Desktop
LazyDroid
I'm experiencing this problem. Although on texting applications on the phone the timestamp is correct, on these third party applications that send information to my computer the time is around 4-5 hours behind.
Any theories/fixes? I have a feeling the normal time fix app won't work for this...
It's a known problem for all text messaging functions (phone and tied to PC). It has to do with how the date codes are stored in the text message database (which all SMS programs use). If you use SMS Backup and Restore to backup, then view your messages, all your received would be a few hours older.
On the phone, Go SMS works just fine (probably reads and writes to the database itself, instead of going through Motorola's crappy SMS programming). Dunno about the PC end. Although if you use LazyDroid and GO SMS at the same time, you'll get two copies of the same message: correct and old dated. Not the best workaround, but it's something.
Technically speaking, the Motorola coding (with Stock and apparently Handcent use to interface with the database) causes the date to be written as if your local current time IS the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT 0). When another program reads the code without using the Motorola programming, it tries to convert the
"GMT" to your time zone. So for me on the East Coast of the US, I'm on GMT-5. Add a difference of 1 for Daylights savings time in the US, and my messages are 4 hours old.
I don't have any issues. I get texts basically instantly from chrome to phone as well with the stock messaging services.
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i'm going to bump this because I have a weird issue.
i use GO SMS Pro and wanted to use Light Flow to control the LED on the device. When you disable GO SMS native notification settings and uncheck the 'block other notifications' it allows the Light Flow controls to work, but I see the issue where all the received timestamps are 5 hours behind (I'm in the eastern time zone). However, if i do check the 'block other notifications' it works fine, but Light Flow blocks all use of the LED for text messaging. Kind of annoying since I don't see how Light Flow can reveal this bug, but after uninstalling the issue goes away.
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I've scoured the forums for an answer but all of these seemed to be pointing to the actual stock SMS app or another like Handcent.
What I'm talking about is that on third party applications that send SMS data to a server, the timestamp (apparently for all motorola phones) is delayed on applications such as:
DeskSMS
Web Desktop
LazyDroid
I'm experiencing this problem. Although on texting applications on the phone the timestamp is correct, on these third party applications that send information to my computer the time is around 4-5 hours behind.
Any theories/fixes? I have a feeling the normal time fix app won't work for this...
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I'd assume you do not use your phone on Verizon. Anyways - there is an app on the market called SMS Time Fix. I think it can solve your issue without having to replace standard SMS client.
I was using go sms for like 14 hrs. Deleted it, tho. It was nice to theme it but for some reason it kept reverting my theme to the default and or would revert some aspects of it while keeping others.
Ill just wait for a rom, I don't really have that big of an issue with the stock app.
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leobg said:
I'd assume you do not use your phone on Verizon. Anyways - there is an app on the market called SMS Time Fix. I think it can solve your issue without having to replace standard SMS client.
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Not sure if you're on a Droid3, but my SMS Time Fix doesn't work all the time on my Bell XT860 (running on Rogers). How has your experience been? Most of the time it gets the right timestamp, but sometimes it doesn't. Is there any way I can tell if the task manager is killing the app or...?
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Not sure if you're on a Droid3, but my SMS Time Fix doesn't work all the time on my Bell XT860 (running on Rogers). How has your experience been? Most of the time it gets the right timestamp, but sometimes it doesn't. Is there any way I can tell if the task manager is killing the app or...?
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I am indeed using Bell XT860 on Rogers. SMS timestamp fix works fine for me. Without it installed messages are stamped with GMT time.
Beside installing it you need to open it, set it active (it is disabled by default) and choose method to correct time (adjustment method) - select top one - Time zone.
I have an issue that comes up randomly. I noticed that sometimes when i send or receive a text message that there is a chance that it will create a new thread. So basically i have 2 ongoing text message threads with some of my contacts. This happens often when creating a new message, sometimes when i receive a reply, and rarely (but still happens) when replying to a thread. Replying to a thread is the weirdest one because i type and hit send and suddenly all the messages disappear as it created a new thread, or all the messages change since it threw me into the other ongoing thread.
Is this supposed to be a feature? At first I thought it dealt with a setting I saw where after 3 minutes it can stop grouping messages or something like that. I can't seem to find the option now. But i use GO SMS Pro and saw this 'bug' (as i see it) before i installed GO and now the issue is mirrored both in GO and the native android text messaging app. Is there any way to turn this off? I just want all my texts for one contact in one thread in the order they were sent/received.
I haven't encountered this, but I installed handcent the first day I had my phone and haven't looked back.
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I remember reading about someone else having this same problem, never happened to me tho.
Yeah like i said i dont think its the 3rd party app since i see the same exact thing in the native app. I'm worried about rooting and freezing the service before i can fix it, for now anything that goes wrong i can switch back and forth to try and trouble shoot or try and find the root cause. do the 3rd party apps just pull info from the native android app or do they receive the messages separately?
I had this problem. Turns out somehow the phone number was copied and it was under mobile and home. There was a sms thread for the home and a thread for the mobile but since they were the same number it took me a while to figure out. Hope that helps. Deleting one of the numbers will stop it. At least it did for me
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I have this issue occasionally too. Although I noticed that the number format was different. One would include country code and the other thread was just area code and number
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Same issue here, with the stock app, with just one person.
I can only find one iteration of the number so I have no idea how to remedy it.
SecretAgentMan said:
Same issue here, with the stock app, with just one person.
I can only find one iteration of the number so I have no idea how to remedy it.
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same here, most of my contacts i only have a mobile number saved in the first place. its not so much frustrating as it is just kind of weird. i can still text fine but it would be nice to have it all together.
I've noticed that I get a lot of duplicate texts or they are out of sync when coming in and just curious if anyone else is seeing this?
I'm currently on my own ROM but noticed this on full stock as well.
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+1 on duplicate texts. Also noticed when I get a reply in the same minute it lists above the original text
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Just an AT&T thing, methinks.
I've always had this, even when I was back on the LG Shine.
Same here. What SMS app are you all using? Go SMS here
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I usally get duplicates when I'm texting someone using a iPhone, out of sync happens when your having a fast paced text convo , notice it mostly happens texting a blackberry, with that said I don't have the sync issue much anymore but 6 months ago when everyone still had a bb it was out of control
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It happened most when it's within same minute but there's plenty of times where it could be 5 minutes between and I'll get duplicate texts that come in. It's pretty annoying. And I'm just using stock messaging app.
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I'm on the Rogers network here in Canada and I have noticed that as well. I thought maybe it was just the provider, but it may be a system issue. I'm just using the stock messages app that comes with the ROM. I have chompSMS installed as it sorts the message better than the stock app.
There's no fix for this yet, I've searched already. I think is related to the new pta lte apn since I didn't have the problem before on hspa...
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I have the same issue, but I've had it since I got the Vivid back in November. I just assumed it was an AT&T network issue, but I never had that problem before with other phones. Hearing that it happens with the Raider in Canada makes me wonder if it's something in the phone itself and the way it pulls messages from the network.
I'm not 100% sure of this (just a hunch) but I'm wondering if it has something to do with the NTP servers that HTC has the device set to sync with to get the time (or the method that it gets the current time from the cell network).
It would appear that the clock is just a few seconds behind everyone else's...
I suppose I'll take a look at it here shortly, since this has been happening to me since day 0 of owning this phone and it's quite annoying...
try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
Yeah, Ive noticed the exact same thing. If you get a message in the same minute as the one you sent it puts the new message you received above the one you sent. Ive also noticed duplicate messages from people as well, thought it was just them, but when it was mentioned about the duplicate messages coming from iPhone users, that sounds right. Does anyone see any fixes coming anytime soon? Forgot to mention that im completely stock right now, using the stock SMS app. Haven't unlocked the bootloader, rooted, or put a custom rom on it yet.
try using the link from the above post, let me know if you have any success
This issue has been driving me nuts. Sometimes I get the same text three times in a row. And sometimes every single text I get is duplicated. I have unlimited texts, but it's annoying and it shouldn't happen. I'm using stock ROM and stock messaging app and I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this. It's either something specific to Sense, or it's the LTE.
Either way, I wish they would fix it. If I didn't like the phone so much, I would have taken it back over this.
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try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
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Thanks for the link. App is downloading as we speak...
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I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this.
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Will try the app you linked to. Found the exact app in the Android Market since I didn't have AppBrain...
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
I have been having the same problem as this as well. It's super annoying, especially since I tend to have fast paced conversations, so my texts are always out of order. And every time I get a duplicate text message, my phone vibrates or rings again, which is really irritating since there isn't actually a new message.
I noticed this happened on the stock messaging app, and a while ago I switched to Go SMS. I didn't seem to have nearly as many problems with texts being out of order or receiving duplicate texts. In fact, it seemed to go away almost completely with Go SMS. But while using Go SMS, my friends told me that about every 3 text messages, they would receive the same text from me anywhere from 2 to 6 times. That was ridiculous! I loved Go SMS, but I had to switch back to stock because of the repeated text sending, even though now I have to deal with the duplicates on my end.
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Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
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I beleive that it identifies incomming messages and drops the text if it is a duplicate, but you would need to contact the developer, I'm just a google search user
I've been having a lot of problems with MMS since picking up the Active and switching to AT&T.
I usually use Handcent, but right now it's pretty worthless when it comes to group messages or receiving a picture. in both the stock messaging app and Handcent settings I have it set to group messages, and to automatically download. when I receive an MMS, though, I still have to click on download (and they won't download at all in Handcent even after clicking).
say I receive a group text from someone and 3 other people respond. both apps now display 4 different entries, one for each person. if I open each individual's thread and click download (again just in the stock app) the messages will be removed from that individual's thread and then be added to a group thread.
this is pretty frustrating, and I really want it solved. is this an AT&T issue (I was on VZW riding the Droid train before) or something with the phone?
a little update on this:
sending of MMS is also way less than ideal, either not sending at all, or taking a really really long time. I tried to send a picture earlier and it took 40 minutes before it finally went through. my searching of the interwebs leads me to believe it's perhaps an APN issue? it would be strange if the default settings out of the box prevent it from working, though. anyone else have an issue with this?
MMS is horrible for me on Handcent, too. I have to open the stock Messaging app just to download an MMS and sometimes that doesn't work, either. I also tried AT&T Messages, but it won't ever even setup correctly.
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