Hi there
I posted this in another thread, but got no reply? So I have started another thread hoping for better response.
I do not normally get any answers or replies on this forum for some reason, hopefully i will be more lucky with this post.
I have just bought a used Touch Diamond, and was looking at downloading and upgrading the system with the official ROM upgrade from HTC, (Diamond_HTC_WWE_1.93.405.1)
It doesn't give you that much info on the HTC site, and I was wondering if
1 - it will be WM 6.5?
2 - It say 'Orange' ROM, would this revert the phone back to Orange only sim settings, or would I still be able to use my O2 sim card? The phone is 'Orange' branded but unlocked.
Thank you and here's hoping for help.
Steve
steveluigi said:
Hi there
I posted this in another thread, but got no reply? So I have started another thread hoping for better response.
I do not normally get any answers or replies on this forum for some reason, hopefully i will be more lucky with this post.
I have just bought a used Touch Diamond, and was looking at downloading and upgrading the system with the official ROM upgrade from HTC, (Diamond_HTC_WWE_1.93.405.1)
It doesn't give you that much info on the HTC site, and I was wondering if
1 - it will be WM 6.5?
2 - It say 'Orange' ROM, would this revert the phone back to Orange only sim settings, or would I still be able to use my O2 sim card? The phone is 'Orange' branded but unlocked.
Thank you and here's hoping for help.
Steve
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I don't think 1.93.405.1 is the current official ROM from HTC. There has to be a newer one like 2.03. xxxxxxxx
Anyway the newest ROM for Diamond is still WM6.1. There is no official WM6.5 ROM.
If your diamond is simlock-free then you can use the orange-ROM with other providers. I had the official ROM from O2 and used it with a T-Mobile-SIM-card without problems.
The only thing is that the provider-settings are false. But there are tools to configure this.
Or you use the official HTC-ROM without branding:
www.htc.com => support
There are also good custom-made ROMs.
Good luck.
Thank you for your reply.
I have tried a couple of ROMs since I got the phone, but there always little niggles with many of them. At the moment I am using a 'BsB Ultimate 6.6' ROM which is quite good, but I would like one with the animated weather reports (the windscreen wiper) and the book like image viewer that you can flick through.
Any idea which I am looking for by that description please?
Thank you
Steve
P.S. Oh and maybe I should mention that i am the O2 network so if there is an O2 ROM available, that would be a bonus.
steveluigi said:
Thank you for your reply.
I have tried a couple of ROMs since I got the phone, but there always little niggles with many of them. At the moment I am using a 'BsB Ultimate 6.6' ROM which is quite good, but I would like one with the animated weather reports (the windscreen wiper) and the book like image viewer that you can flick through.
Any idea which I am looking for by that description please?
Thank you
Steve
P.S. Oh and maybe I should mention that i am the O2 network so if there is an O2 ROM available, that would be a bonus.
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I had this ROM on my diamond and I was pretty happy with it. I don't know wich language you prefer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
It's with Sense 2.1 wich runs really good. A network-wizard to setup your provider settings is integrated.
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Sorry to bother people again but am having problems with my data connections etc... with the HTC ROM and was looking to install my original Orange UK ROM.
Can people point me in the right direction...
Thank you,
K
hasnt been released by orange yet so you wont be able to get it back until they do.
have you heard if they will release any ROM update? Orange very rarely offer update any of their phones updates.
it took about 18 months for an Orange ROM for my M600 to "appear". I emailed and called Orange UK support who were hopeless- they couldn't even find the correct department responsible for ROMS!!!
However I tried almost every other WM5 and WM6 ROm during that time. Finally I found a great WM6 ROM with almost no bugs (for my usage).
My advice is try other ROMs until you're happy!
You'll get one in the end and it will be better than Oranges offering.
Thanks. I Just upgraded to the LVSW ROM.
is there anyway to back up (download) the rom on my phone? that way i can get an orange backup rom!
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309959
ahh thankyou however i just realised i'm in the wrong place! needed to post in prophet area
Hi all,
Sorry to be so demanding in my first couple of posts but I have another quick question. I currently have a Vodafone v1615 on which I am considering installing Duttys latest ROM but had a couple of quick questions of someone could help me:
Does this and other ROMs work fine with non-standard HTC Kaisers (for example the vodafone branded v1615?
Do I need to take a backup of my current ROM incase the phone develops a fault in the next 12 months and if so how do I go about this?
Finally, I have installed quick a few ROMs and have the phone setup how I like it but cant help being tempted by the increase of speed offered. Is it really that much of an improvement over standard roms?
Thanks,
Michael
cyberkid2002 said:
Hi all,
Sorry to be so demanding in my first couple of posts but I have another quick question. I currently have a Vodafone v1615 on which I am considering installing Duttys latest ROM but had a couple of quick questions of someone could help me:
Does this and other ROMs work fine with non-standard HTC Kaisers (for example the vodafone branded v1615?
Do I need to take a backup of my current ROM incase the phone develops a fault in the next 12 months and if so how do I go about this?
Finally, I have installed quick a few ROMs and have the phone setup how I like it but cant help being tempted by the increase of speed offered. Is it really that much of an improvement over standard roms?
Thanks,
Michael
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You could search the Stickys and The WIKIs. They cover all your answers. And Is it an improvement over Standard ROMs. Hell to the Yes. I won't want to use a Stock ROM.
P.S. I hope its a typo But When you say you installed a few QuickROM i think you meant CABs. Good to know the difference here.
u can always flash it back to stock in case anything goes wrong
I can't comment on the V1615, but I had a V1605 (Hermes) and that unlocked (CID and SIM) fine and I tried every rom going without problems. There are also quite a few posts from people with the V1615 so I think you're ok. Anyway, as bapssystupr3m3 says, you can always return to stock rom.
I'm using one of Duttys ROMs on my v1615 and i wouldnt dream of going back, its a huge improvement
I emailed O2 about a ROM update for the stellar, as my Device Information currently states:
ROM version: 1.82.206.1 WWE
ROM date: 10/04/07
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
They replied with:
Good Morning Dave,
Thank you for your email
O2 are currently in test with the new ROM for the Stellar which will be WM 6.1. This should be released in the next month or so. Unfortunately we cannot provide you with a specific date for when it will be placed on your website for download due to confidentiality.
Kind Regards
Paul Lonsdale
O2 Customer Technical Support UK
Is it worth upgrading for WM6.1? There seem to be differing opinions on the HTC ROM upgrade.
The O2 ROMs seem to be quite good and most complaints are due to the disappointment of the updates not including decent graphics drivers.
I will most likely upgrade mine.
davetibbs said:
I emailed O2 about a ROM update for the stellar, as my Device Information currently states:
ROM version: 1.82.206.1 WWE
ROM date: 10/04/07
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
They replied with:
Good Morning Dave,
Thank you for your email
O2 are currently in test with the new ROM for the Stellar which will be WM 6.1. This should be released in the next month or so. Unfortunately we cannot provide you with a specific date for when it will be placed on your website for download due to confidentiality.
Kind Regards
Paul Lonsdale
O2 Customer Technical Support UK
Is it worth upgrading for WM6.1? There seem to be differing opinions on the HTC ROM upgrade.
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oh! next month or so..this is great news! finally 6.1 for my bottle of ...ehem, for my o2 stella.
This is great, I've been on their site at least 2 times a week for the past month searching to see if they have brought out an update.
Well it's now July...anyone got any more news on this? I too keep checking the O2 software updates website. I have also tried emailing them but they didn't respond to me.
Just last week there was a flurry of Vodafone and T-Mobile updates for their branded kaisers, so I'd expect something v. soon.
As far as 6.1 goes, it's very good IMO, although some of us have experienced poor GPS performance on first fix.
Just had a look on their site and it's available to download.
Downloading now and will update later. Hopefully it'll work ok.
Watch this space
stevejb said:
Just had a look on their site and it's available to download.
Downloading now and will update later. Hopefully it'll work ok.
Watch this space
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great news,
:holdsBreath:
downloaded and installed without a hitch, fired my Garmin up GPS seems fine
great stuff
Alas, it doesn't make the camera any better..
Everything else seems fine so far.
Can anyone point me in the direction of the O2 site for the upgrade?
nordberg_73 said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of the O2 site for the upgrade?
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http://www.my-xda.com/software_updates.jsp
Great thanks. Redirects to the HTC site in the end I see!
dazb2001 said:
Alas, it doesn't make the camera any better..
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I am downloading now.
But I thought I would point out that I have improved the performance of my camera using KaiserTweak which has a setting regarding the camera that can change to make the camera respond in a quicker time (assuming that is your complaint!)
hi Guys
any chance to upload this rom somewhere like rapidshare.com as I am a Vario III user on o2 and I think my imei won't pass the check.
tia
br
bro
bronx said:
hi Guys
any chance to upload this rom somewhere like rapidshare.com as I am a Vario III user on o2 and I think my imei won't pass the check.
tia
br
bro
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if you can wait till friday (or no1 does it first) I will download it and set it up as a torrent from my house at Uni as i have 1mb upload there n only like 128k at home.
sure thing pal, although I hope for someone to show me mercy on that bit quicker...
thanks for quick reply and see You in this thread.
bro
I'll try this later tonight - I presume that with a rom upgrade all installed programs will be wiped. Whats the best way to save the programs so that I don't have to go through installing them again (if thats possible)
cotc2001 said:
I'll try this later tonight - I presume that with a rom upgrade all installed programs will be wiped. Whats the best way to save the programs so that I don't have to go through installing them again (if thats possible)
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Indeed...everything is wiped and all the data too.
I used SPB Backup which worked well in the end. I made a few mistakes during the restore process that made it much more of a time consuming headache than it should have been but I think I got back to where I want to be. Ringtone assignments and contact picture assignments were not restored but that may have been my error rather than the fault of the software.
I have a question though...next to the O2 task manager bubble at the bottom of the today screen is a new flashing icon that looks a bit like a Bluetooth symbol...anyone have any ideas what this is? I have tried clicking on it but nothing happens.
Also, apart from the threaded SMS (which I am excited about having gone from a Treo 650 to the Stellar), what other delights does WM 6.1 provide?!
dg252 said:
Also, apart from the threaded SMS (which I am excited about having gone from a Treo 650 to the Stellar), what other delights does WM 6.1 provide?!
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I like the zooming in Internet Explorer but have you tried the GPS since 'upgrading'. What radio code does O2 offer with the update - is it the same radio as mine (in my sig)?
I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....
if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
Why go to WM 6.1?
peto01 said:
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!
Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !
I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!
Flying Kiwi said:
Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.
OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...
Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.
Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....
No WTFs reqd after-all
targ said:
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.
Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers
hi i am new to all this but i have managed to hardspl my kaiser and also sim unlocked it and removed the cid.
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
also as i have unlocked this and i want to use it with t-mobile in the uk how can i put the mms sms and internet settings onto the handset to allow it to work with my t-mobile sim card
any help would be greatfully appreciated thanks
dazzlet said:
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
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It is very difficult to recommend one since we all have our own preferences. The best thing to do is decided are you going to go with WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, the next step is to pick a ROM and read the thread about it, seeing what the chef has put into his ROM and then finally...flash...that is the only way that you find the ROM that you like the best....
Good Luck...flashing is half the fun.
what is the differance between the 6.1 and 6.5 is one more stable than the other. also i have seen the athineOS too which i know runs on 6.5 but i dont fully understand what it is
dazzlet said:
what is the differance between the 6.1 and 6.5 is one more stable than the other. also i have seen the athineOS too which i know runs on 6.5 but i dont fully understand what it is
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6.1 has been officially been released, but 6.5 has some improvements in it, but it has not been officially released, but the chefs here have been able to craft some pretty good ROMs that are stable and workable.
Myself, I have chosen to stay with 6.1, because I have seen and read to many problems with 6.5 roms. It is ultimately your decision which version to go with.
dazzlet said:
hi i am new to all this but i have managed to hardspl my kaiser and also sim unlocked it and removed the cid.
i am now looking at flashing a rom but i would like a rom that has good look and also if possible has windows messenger and you tube allready in it and a smart look. can you recomend one?
also as i have unlocked this and i want to use it with t-mobile in the uk how can i put the mms sms and internet settings onto the handset to allow it to work with my t-mobile sim card
any help would be greatfully appreciated thanks
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like greywolf said, you pretty much need to look around and see what you like. i am using the lastest TPC rom and pretty happy with it, but there are a lot other good choices out there right now
As for you using your phone with other sim cards most roms come with "Connection Setup" it usually detects your sim card and asks you if u want to change the setting to the carrier. you can always search for the latest cab on this forum.