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Audio Player??

Is there any Developer working in a new audio player, with a lot of new features including just play songs from the folder you select.
I use my g1 on my car alot and the stock audio players sucks!
for example I can't play songs from a specific folder, the player takes all the songs from the g1 sdcard. the shuffle option don't work right I have about 1500 songs and it playes the sames songs when on shuffle etc.
I'm desperate for a new audio players with good features, specific to use the g1 as a real mp3 player, and for car mp3 play use.

TuneWiki perhaps?

^^^ I hate tune wiki. It never displays the right album artwork.

Hey there! Not trying to hijack your thread, but I got a quick question...I noticed that you said you use your G1 in the car. I have Ford Sync and I have heard the music/navigation broadcast over the speakers, but only when I was actually on a call. How are you connecting? Bluetooth doesn't work and I've also tried using the usb cable.
I also second your "request" for a new music player. The G1 is lacking in the music/video department. My boyfried has an iPhone and I just can't argue when it comes to the media part of the phone...my only argument is having to use iTunes.

Perrosky, have you tried aPlayer?

I'll agree with you on those points. I have a lot of poorly-tagged music and just being able to browse by folder/file would be helpful. Shuffling a folder would be nice as well.
I ended up creating a ton of playlists to accomplish this with the current players. Tunewiki is a step up from the bundled player, but it is still quite lacking.
Some other features I'd like to see:
1. Audio controls like EQ, Balance, etc.
2. Bookmarking. If I'm 15 minutes into a 30 minute audiobook track I'd really prefer to not have to remember where I left off when I start listening again.
I'm sure it is only a matter of time before somebody ports an open source audio player to Android. If they can do it for Rockbox, they can do it for android...

JonFolse said:
^^^ I hate tune wiki. It never displays the right album artwork.
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Funny it does for me. Best player out there right now. Coreplayer should be coming out with one soon for android.

Perrosky said:
Is there any Developer working in a new audio player, with a lot of new features including just play songs from the folder you select.
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AMEN! I Have been searching for a media player that could do that.
That is the ONLY thing I miss about my windows mobile phone is the windows media player!
I hope coreplayer can do this. Almost 80% of my songs are poorly tagged (ID3) and being able to play an entire folder would be perfect!

Popular media players

I was thinking of making this a generic discussion thread on what the going media players are. There are a couple of subjects I'd like to bullet-point:
1) (HD) video players
2) Music players
3) music/video streamers
4) Remote control functions for media players
To elaborate, and I'll start of with asking questions so people can add their comments/suggestions/questions/et al to the thread. If we can keep it tidy maybe we can turn this into a sticky at some point.
1) I guess there are plenty of (HD)video players around. Could someone tell me which ones are the more popular ones currently?
2) Same question for music players
3) This one applies to both points 1+2 I guess: Are there any players that can stream directly from your shared music/video folders wirelessly?
How about iTunes integration? I'm kinda considering an Apple TV kind of approach, where you can play all your music and videos stored somewhere on your network. This may require additional hardware though if the gTab is to be used as remote. Though another option would be to hook up the gTab to your TV and have it function as the Apple TV, and use for example your iPod/iPhone, or better yet, your Android phone, as a remote.
Another option would be to use the Viewsonic VMP75 (or similar media player) for the desired functionality (web browsing/streaming music/streaming video on your TV) and use the gTab as remote control. However, I actually did look around and couldn't find an app that allows an android device or apple device to control the VMP75 from Viewsonic.
This leads us to the final point:
4) Remote control functions: Are there any apps that allow this unit to control for example iTunes
So any thoughts/ideas/opinions/etc will be welcome...

Can't answer much.
2) I've tried these so far:
winamp
mortplayer
simple player
I actually like the widget that comes with tntlite, since it just works and doesn't take up a lot of space. On my phone I like to have more than one program so my music listening doesn't throw off my audiobooks.
I haven't messed around with winamp much but it is supposed to have some type of music integration with winamp on windows. I think it will sync wirelessly somehow.
3)upnpplay, might not have the spelling correct. I've gotten a few things to play, but don't think the interface works too good on a larger screen. But again I will admit to not trying it much.
4) someone on here had a post on reconfiguring the XBMC remote for use with the bigger screen. I don't use itunes so can't comment on that at all.
Hope that helps.

I have tried winamp and realplayer beta. I like the realplayer better and it scans pictures/movies/music from a SDCARD2 (micro SD card).

Spotify offline music

I think I have found something quite interesting I just got spotify and was wondering how to convert the music to my ipod mp3 format. I don't believe they use drm.
Expiriment:
I played one song only.
I recorded the cached files size after the song was played.
Output:
I got 4 files that were each 1.3 mb each. I also download a ogg version of the song I wanted in 160 kb/s (correct me if I'm wrong I don't know the right unit)
the size is 4x1.3 = 5.2 mb and the ogg version I downloaded from the internet was 5.2 mb.
I believe spotify splits up the files and then puts them back together somehow.
Im no programmer just a redneck with alot of time on my hands when its raining. So is this possible?

Well the easiest way must be to record the play-back from the Spotify program/client with Audacity(GNU/freeware). In Audacity choosing the Windows Stereo Mixer as source.
Then export the Audacity files in any format of your own liking.
For further tagging and then transfer to your MP3-player.
Though. having a Spotify Premium account and a Smatphone (Desire HD) as a music player.
Gives me several playlists with some 1000 songs to play streamed over Wifi or 3G, and some 200 song off-line.
As a bonus I can use the same account on my PC (Not at the same time but with the same playlists) for playing Spotify thru the Home stereo amplifier and floor standing speakers.
PS. the DHD/Spotify is my music player at home and away, have hardly touched my CD collection since I got Spotify, still seldom over 4GB/month.

but the problem is I have over 1000 songs already (US User). and no windows computers. If you have the premium account and have offline mode could you go to C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Spotify\Storage and get me the biggest file in there so i can test some more

I'm away from home, my summer vacation.
I believe cracking Spotify's music crypting will not be easier than cracking my Internet bank account.
The music companies would never allow their music on Spotify if it was easy to crack.
Here's my Spotify files on my Android DHD at least.
Phone/sdcard/spotify2/Users/Storage. The Storage folder hold some 900MB of data
Phone/sdcard/spotify2/username, Hold just a couple of MB
I didn't want to mess around in there but some hundreds sub-folders(00, 11 e1, fe etc)
If you got 1000 song to convert/pirate for your Ipod, you better get started.
Recorders for the Stereo Mixer(or what ever it's called for Linux and Mac)

you could try audacity like someone else suggested. or tunebite. it works in a similar way. basically, you record from the sound card but the soft cuts the audio files and adds tags to each of them so you get the full song in once piece. you can find a step by step description here in case you wanna give it a try. oh and does converting as well so if you need mp3 files, you're covered.

Old thread is old, and it's also a discussion about pirating music from a paid service, which is obviously a no-no.
Thread closed.

[Q] Why are m4a files ripped from CD not playing?

Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!

m4a AAC vs m4a ALAC
The HTC One specs do indicate that it supports m4a, but Apple's m4a lossless (aka. ALAC) is not the same as a 'normal' m4a format. As per Wikipedia:
Apple Lossless is not a variant of AAC (which is a lossy format), but rather a distinct lossless format...
This seems to say the two formats (m4a AAC and m4a ALAC) are as different as MP3 vs FLAC media, but Apple decided to use the m4a extension for both distinct proprietary formats.
You will need a music player that has a codec that supports m4a ALAC: PowerAmp supports m4a ALAC and it is much better than the built-in HTC player or Google Music. There are others in GooglePlay store; search for 'alac'

Broo said:
The HTC One specs do indicate that it supports m4a, but Apple's m4a lossless (aka. ALAC) is not the same as a 'normal' m4a format. As per Wikipedia:
Apple Lossless is not a variant of AAC (which is a lossy format), but rather a distinct lossless format...
This seems to say the two formats (m4a AAC and m4a ALAC) are as different as MP3 vs FLAC media, but Apple decided to use the m4a extension for both distinct proprietary formats.
You will need a music player that has a codec that supports m4a ALAC: PowerAmp supports m4a ALAC and it is much better than the built-in HTC player or Google Music. There are others in GooglePlay store; search for 'alac'
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Aaaaah, thanks Broo! After reading this I went back and checked the info in iTunes for the songs that were and weren't working... for some reason I thought the purchased/downloaded were all apple lossless, but they're "Purchased AAC". I don't know how I got confused with that (it WAS 2am when I was trying to figure this out last night, lol)
I've used poweramp a bit, but wasn't crazy about it.. mayhaps I'll have to try it again.
Thanks again!

M4A file format
humangobo said:
Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!
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I just went through this today. HTC tech support insists that even though the specifications say that the HTC One will play various formats it really requires MP3 to play correctly. My HTC One would play M4A but it would skip through the songs only playing a second or so on each one. I used iTunes to convert all of the m4a files to mp3 files and then moved them to the HTC One. They all play fine but I have not had a chance to see if it corrected the music player skipping problem. I really think the skipping problem is associated with Electromagnetic Interference since it does not happen when the phone is on my desks but it happens every time when I am outside walking around in a varying electronic environment.
Would have been nice for HTC to post some sort of notice about the MP3 issue but that would have caused problems with sales I suspect.
The conversion to MP3 is not too difficult but it is time consuming. The iTunes help will walk you through it. You can just convert them to your existing directory structure and then cut and paste into the HTC One /internal storage/Music directory but I created a different directory on my computer and then imported to there so I would not have to sort through all of the myriad iTunes/iTunesMedia/Music directories.

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I just went through this today. HTC tech support insists that even though the specifications say that the HTC One will play various formats it really requires MP3 to play correctly. My HTC One would play M4A but it would skip through the songs only playing a second or so on each one. I used iTunes to convert all of the m4a files to mp3 files and then moved them to the HTC One. They all play fine but I have not had a chance to see if it corrected the music player skipping problem. I really think the skipping problem is associated with Electromagnetic Interference since it does not happen when the phone is on my desks but it happens every time when I am outside walking around in a varying electronic environment.
Would have been nice for HTC to post some sort of notice about the MP3 issue but that would have caused problems with sales I suspect.
The conversion to MP3 is not too difficult but it is time consuming. The iTunes help will walk you through it. You can just convert them to your existing directory structure and then cut and paste into the HTC One /internal storage/Music directory but I created a different directory on my computer and then imported to there so I would not have to sort through all of the myriad iTunes/iTunesMedia/Music directories.
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Actually, I've managed to quickly and easily convert all those files I was having issues with to AAC versions, and they work like a charm! It's true, HTC should be a bit more specific with the file formats supported, but technically they do play m4a (all mine now work fine, since converting from ALAC codec to AAC), they just need to be a bit more specific about what codecs of m4a it'll play. Poweramp did work fine, which is awesome, but then I want to use some of the songs as ringtones or alarm sounds, and they weren't supported, thus the decision to just convert them all.. It'll save me a bit more space on the phone this way too
That's quite an odd problem you're having though, with the songs skipping... I wouldn't even know where to begin troubleshooting that! Maybe a short in your headphones? Could be sending a bad signal to the phone telling it to skip...?

HTC One Earphone Issue
humangobo said:
Actually, I've managed to quickly and easily convert all those files I was having issues with to AAC versions, and they work like a charm! It's true, HTC should be a bit more specific with the file formats supported, but technically they do play m4a (all mine now work fine, since converting from ALAC codec to AAC), they just need to be a bit more specific about what codecs of m4a it'll play. Poweramp did work fine, which is awesome, but then I want to use some of the songs as ringtones or alarm sounds, and they weren't supported, thus the decision to just convert them all.. It'll save me a bit more space on the phone this way too
That's quite an odd problem you're having though, with the songs skipping... I wouldn't even know where to begin troubleshooting that! Maybe a short in your headphones? Could be sending a bad signal to the phone telling it to skip...?
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It has taken me a week to resolve this issue. Tried resolving some issues with the file structure on the phone, where the music files are stored on both the phone and in iTunes, trying working with HTC Sync Manager, uninstalled and reinstalled it, could not get it to work correctly, converted all of the files to MP3 format and finally flushed the cache. Nothing resolved the problem. This morning I changed earphones from an iPod earphone I had been using to the HTC earphone that came in the box with the HTC phone. Works as advertised.
The iPod earphone jack and the HTC earphone jack appear almost identical. However, the HTC earphone jack is about 1 mm longer than the iPod jack. Thus, it appears to me that that minor difference in earphone jack may be the problem or there is a possibility that the iPod earphone wires are not shielded and the HTC earphone wires are but I strongly suspect that it is that 1 mm of jack length difference that made the iPod phone not quite making sufficient contact and that was causing a spurious input to the music player.

bennywhite said:
It has taken me a week to resolve this issue. Tried resolving some issues with the file structure on the phone, where the music files are stored on both the phone and in iTunes, trying working with HTC Sync Manager, uninstalled and reinstalled it, could not get it to work correctly, converted all of the files to MP3 format and finally flushed the cache. Nothing resolved the problem. This morning I changed earphones from an iPod earphone I had been using to the HTC earphone that came in the box with the HTC phone. Works as advertised.
The iPod earphone jack and the HTC earphone jack appear almost identical. However, the HTC earphone jack is about 1 mm longer than the iPod jack. Thus, it appears to me that that minor difference in earphone jack may be the problem or there is a possibility that the iPod earphone wires are not shielded and the HTC earphone wires are but I strongly suspect that it is that 1 mm of jack length difference that made the iPod phone not quite making sufficient contact and that was causing a spurious input to the music player.
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Aaaahh, yes had I known you were using iPod headphones, I would have said that's the culprit right away! When i first went android with the HTC One X+, I had a pair of skullcandy earbuds made for iPhone that didn't quite have the same problem as you, but were an issue nonetheless. I tried just a pair of regular headphones and worked fantastically. Since then I either get regular headphones without the mic/remote, or i just started using the HTC ones, which seem surprisingly good for a pair of packaged earbuds. Glad you got it sorted!
<edit> also, If I'm not mistaken, Apple wires theirs slightly differently, so even if the lengths were the same, the connections would be whacky and cause issues. "Think Different" they say...

humangobo said:
Hey there! Long time reader, first time poster!
As the title states, I'm having problems playing m4a files on my HTC One, specifically ones that are ripped from CD. I went through and updated a bunch of artists' albums with fresh Apple Lossless versions instead of the mp3s I had, and none of these rips are playing on my phone. I have a crapload of other m4a apple lossless files bought from iTunes that work just fine.. it's just these CD rips.
Anyone have any idea why? I'd love to have the better versions of these songs, and I know I can just convert them to something usable, but I want to understand what makes them not play, and if there's anything I can do in the process of ripping to fix it.
I used iTunes for all the ripping, and just selected the Apple Lossless Codec as the option. (and please, no smart-ass comments about not using iTunes It's how I buy and organize my music, since we don't have many options for online purchasing here in Canada).
Thanks!
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If you just rename the file extension to mp3 it may work. I had and m4r file which is an iPhone ringtone format and just changed the extension and my HTC One used it no bother.
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I have develop an android APP "CD Ripper" to rip CD to WAV or MP3 , you can try it on GOOGLE PLAY :
What's the CD Ripper
CD Ripper is the first FREE CD ripping APP of the Android.
It can rip CD tracks to lossless or compressed music files.
Why to use CD Ripper
- We have many CD discs with favorite musics
- Before , We can play them with Discman or Microsystem
- Now , We want to play those musics in mobiles
- Use the CD Ripper to rip CD tracks to WAV or MP3 files
How to use CD Ripper
- Connect the USB CD reader (Optical Drive) and power with OTG cable
- Connect the mobile to OTG cable
- Click "Load CD" to load CD
- Show CD tracks (TOC) after finish loading
- Click "Rip WAV" to rip those tracks to WAV files
- Or Click "Rip MP3" to rip those tracks to MP3 files
- Click "Save As" to save your WAV/MP3 folder with the special name

App for music and playlists?

I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?

iaitoo said:
I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?
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You can use Google Play Music for that.

iaitoo said:
I Listen to the same music all the time, so I'm done with spotify. Gonna save loads by just buying the tracks I listen to. What sort of app do you use to listen to your music? The only thing I like with the iPhone system is that you can make a playlist in iTunes and then sync it. I hate managing that on the phone it self. Anything like that for android? Can you use google music for that, or is that only a spotifyish service?
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if you are very used to iTunes you can also use something like doubletwist or similar apps for your pc to sync your itunes library with your android phone. I have done this like 8 years ago when I switched from my ipod to my first android phone so I have no idea if that still works or how it is improved these days :angel: But getting rid of iTunes is a good idea anyway. Feels liberating! (don't take this too seriously)

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if you are very used to iTunes you can also use something like doubletwist or similar apps for your pc to sync your itunes library with your android phone. I have done this like 8 years ago when I switched from my ipod to my first android phone so I have no idea if that still works or how it is improved these days :angel: But getting rid of iTunes is a good idea anyway. Feels liberating! (don't take this too seriously)
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Not used to iTunes. Just like how you can make playlists in it Don't like google music as an app. But I buy music there. Have started to use MediaMonkey. It syncs nicely. And its both a desktop and phone app. But it has waaay more options that I need and feels a bit cluttery. Would love a simpler option

Well I personally just keep my music in folders on my PC and copy it to the phones SD card if there is something new. And since I have everything on my SD card I never have to sync anything - even when I switch phones. I'm an offline freak though, I need all my music physically on a card and I need it all with me all the time (I'm a musician and music teacher so it's a special situation I guess but I really do need a lot of it for work too). Also you never know when you're in a tunnel somewhere and you need that Pink Floyd fix!
Currently I use the Xperia Music app btw (link) and make my playlists directly on the phone.

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Well I personally just keep my music in folders on my PC and copy it to the phones SD card if there is something new. And since I have everything on my SD card I never have to sync anything - even when I switch phones. I'm an offline freak though, I need all my music physically on a card and I need it all with me all the time (I'm a musician and music teacher so it's a special situation I guess but I really do need a lot of it for work too). Also you never know when you're in a tunnel somewhere and you need that Pink Floyd fix!
Currently I use the Xperia Music app btw (link) and make my playlists directly on the phone.
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MediaMonkey is also offline Would love to use the stock music app actually. But making playlists on the phone is annoying. I need a computer when doing stuff like that
Edit: Wasn't bad at all using the stock app! Just so used to the spotify app and its horrible! bye bye mediamonkey Thanks!