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Im On Rom CyanogenMod 5.0.8 droid i have lost everything with no back ups of my cellularsouth original rom PLUS I HAVE NO DROID APP MARKET WHAT SO EVER i have a motorola milestone throught cellularsouth and was on the milestone forums and they told me since i have a cdma phone that nothing the moto milestone forums have nothing to do with it that it is the version only due to the hardware could anyone possible give me the file and instructions to help me set my phone back to the original rom and factory settings right out of the box state and yall will never hear from me again ive been over here for hours playing russian roulette wanting to hack this phone and it is no where as simple as jailbreaking and unlocking the iphone I REALLY NEED HELP and if you dont feel like typing call me at 228-697-7467
THANK YOU
I think the first thing you should do is download the new google apps. You can get them through a search. Go back into recovery and flash the Gapps.zip file. You will then have the market and all the google apps. There is a "rule" that any cyanogenmod ROM cannot have the google apps inside it and must be flashed separately. Go back to where you got the ROM and you should be able to find the Gapps.zip file. Try that first. I am not sure how to get you back to stock, but someone might be able to help in that situation.
If you have a custom ROM on the phone, the hard part is over. Just flash the Gapps.zip file and you will be done. Just breathe and relax. All will be fine.
ok but
im new to the going to recovery and flashing files inform me with a little more of that process been looking it up but know one speaks english when it comes to flashing.
I would go to theunlockr.com. That is where I went to learn how to flash ROMs on my Eris. Look under the how to section for your phone and how to flash a custom ROM. It should give you all the info you need there. Try it out. You will end up with a phone that you will want to keep for a while still. Give yourself time to learn and you might be flashing ROMs daily just to try them out. It will become second nature to you. Trust me, it has for me.
You Have Been Alot Of Help But What About Firmware and Base Band Issues
I put this Sapphire rom on my phone figured out how to put all the good apps and stuff back on but now i have firmware 2.2 so does that mean i can go back to and roms that worked with 2.1 or 2.0.1
If you mean you want to go to previous iterations of android, its entirely possible just find the right rom, and concerning baseband, depending on what you mean by that, you will have to go to your carrier to flash your phone if your service isn't working, but a baseband update is available via rom manager, though as far as I know thats only to increase internet speed. Btw, noone should have to play games of chance to find a solution for an android fix, or be having to search for hours, either, android= ease of use and application, also, your completely welcome to these forums, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Is there a working EPST for the Vogue running 2.2? Or rather, a way to program the device without having to flash back to WM?
Thanks in advance!
I am not familiar with that tool, but it sounds like something you won't need for these phones. If you install a kernel to NAND, you can install another by copying the NBH file to sd card, then using the bootloader to install. I won't go into details because there are sticky threads that spell everything out.
If I have missed the mark and you are asking for something other than how to install new kernels or roms, then please clarify the question by explaining what EPST.apk does that seems to be missing.
It basically allows service commands, and the programming of a device. (##MSL#, ##DATA# etc.) I was wondering if anyone had this working, as the usual solution to activate a Vogue would be to flash back to WM, program, and then back to Android, that is if you install to NAND.
Sorry if I was unclear in my post.
EDIT: What I'm mainly asking is, if there's a way to activate a Vogue with Android 2.2 installed on NAND, via EPST or another method. (App, CDMA Workshop, etc.) Probably asking a stupid question.
Ah I understand now. That sounds like something that is definitely needed. Maybe someone else knows?
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Larbo, I am also on Sprint and recently took advantage of the
Free Optimus S phones as long as I renew my plan - which I was going to do anyway!
When I activated the new Optimus S - I was able to activate over the Sprint Website.
I didn't have to do any phone codes or anything, that stuff happens in the background.
I don't think the Droid stuff needs to use those codes and stuff anymore.
Best bet, I would recommend you get your Vogue working like you want.
Save the androidinstall.tar file you used.
Do a full /data backup img file
Flash one of the NFSFan's Sprint winmo's - do whatever programming, then
flash back to android kernel .NBH and then reload the androidinstall.tar
and re-load your data backup image - its a little more work, but only option currently.
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Flash one of the NFSFan's Sprint winmo's - do whatever programming, then
flash back to android kernel .NBH and then reload the androidinstall.tar
and re-load your data backup image - its a little more work, but only option currently.
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I did a little more searching and that seems to be the only option. It surprises me somewhat, as dang near everything Android runs on this little phone, everything working (Minus hardware limitations), to the point where it seems Android natively.
The Optimus S really reminds me of the Vogue in design, maybe I'll have to pick one up.
you can backup all the phone (system and data using atools)
CDMA Workshop allows you to do all that from the flash screen (Power + Camera)
QPST may also
dzo wrote a partial service programming app a long time ago. It sounds like it wouldn't be hard for the more talented devs to finish up, but since everyone with a vogue has winmo to start with and can provision there, there hasn't been much need for it.
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
chaoscreater said:
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
DevIcon
DevLogo
At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
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http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )
Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you
apefist said:
Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you
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Do you have a sim card in the phone? This was an issue with some Jellybean/ICS roms. It happens to me as well. For some reason when placing a sim card in the phone(it doesn't need to be active) it allows your phone to get reception.
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Do you have a sim card in the phone? This was an issue with some Jellybean/ICS roms. It happens to me as well. For some reason when placing a sim card in the phone(it doesn't need to be active) it allows your phone to get reception.
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Hey,
So this actually worked, thanks for the heads up!
step by step
apefist said:
Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you
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Hey, Glad u got your issue resolved..
i am getting my first Android phone (Droid 3 XT862 Gingerbread 2.3 ) and i want to install a custom rom the same way u have..... i was wondering if you or anyone else on the forum could give me step by step guide on how to go about installing the custom rom with the ability to revert back to my original stock OS wen i need to......
i had posted a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378162 and i got some good advise so far:
you or anyone here could reply with the instructions i need or at least send me a link to a tutorial .... as i said this is my first Android so i really dont want to make any mistakes while doing this..
THANX MUCH !!!!!!!
Tha slayer said:
Hey, Glad u got your issue resolved..
i am getting my first Android phone (Droid 3 XT862 Gingerbread 2.3 ) and i want to install a custom rom the same way u have..... i was wondering if you or anyone else on the forum could give me step by step guide on how to go about installing the custom rom with the ability to revert back to my original stock OS wen i need to......
i had posted a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378162 and i got some good advise so far:
you or anyone here could reply with the instructions i need or at least send me a link to a tutorial .... as i said this is my first Android so i really dont want to make any mistakes while doing this..
THANX MUCH !!!!!!!
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Hey, so this was my process.
First, I made sure that the stock software on the phone was up to date. I did this since that way if you have to go back to stock, you are on the latest version, and you can confirm that you are using the correct rooting application. The root tool I link to below will work on 5.7.906 which I believe is the latest.
Second, root your phone. You will need to go HERE to download the tool. Follow the instructions on the page, and it should go fine. The phone will reboot several times during the process, this is normal. Once the program says it is done, you can go check for the Superuser application in your app drawer (it might be SuperSU or something similar, I can't quite remember).
After you have root access on your phone download the safestrap application for Droid 3 HERE. Make sure you get the one that is specifically for Droid 3. Transfer that file (should be called Droid3Safestrap-3.05.apk) onto your phone.
There are a few ways to transfer files onto your phone. You will also need to do this later to transfer the .zip of whatever ROM you decide on). If you have a micro-sd card that you can put into your computer, that works. Or, you can have the phone on and plug it into the computer and transfer it that way. I believe you can transfer to either the micro SD or the internal memory. I prefer micro SD since you might want to wipe the internal memory to fix things or switch ROMs.
After the .apk is transferred find where you put it using a file manager (I personally use Root Explorer but I think Astro or stock will work), and install it. Go to the new app and run it and it should request root access, which you grant, and it should flash the recovery.
Once you have the recovery installed you can install whatever custom ROM you want, pretty easily. Safestrap is great because even if you screw up the ROM somehow, you can always just boot back into Stock.
Here is where you'll have to chose what custom ROM you want. Now as far as I know, the Droid 3 is fairly limited in its ROM selection. It does have a Cyanogen Mod 10 version, but it is not a stable version and in my experience, doesn't run super great. If you want to try Cyanogen Mod 10, I actually suggest you get the Avatar Rom variant HERE, but keep in mind that apparently you do need a SIM card inserted for the cell signal to work at all. Overall it did seem to run fairly choppy but they are still releasing newer nightly versions (July 20th was the last) so it might have gotten better. One thing to know about these ones is that the camera does not work at all, so if that matters to you just skip these.
Now those two (CM 10 and avatar) are ROMS that will bring the droid 3 up to Android 4.2 Jellybean. If you don't care about getting up to the latest version (Jellybean actually isn't the latest anymore but still pretty darn close), then there are a few other Gingerbread ROMS out there that work a bit better.
HERE is a list of a few other droid 3 ROMs, my favorite Gingerbread one that worked overall really well and stable was Steel Droid. Otherwise, you can just look around and see what's available or what other people are suggesting. Choose your ROM (or several, it's fairly easy to install them so try a few!), and download it. You should get a .zip that is approx. 150-170 MB in size. As an aside you will probably also want to download the corresponding GApps package HERE and put that on the SD card as well. I think some ROMs have that included, but if you boot into a room and it doesn't have the Play store installed, you need to go back into safestrap and install the GApps package over it. You don't have to delete and recreate the rom slot, just go back into install and install it over. When I say corresponding, the different packages go with different versions of Android so for example the one labelled 20110307 would go with Android 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread, the version that Steel Droid uses.
For whichever one you choose, the install process is mostly the same. Reboot your phone, and after the Motorola Logo comes up, you should see the Safestrap splash screen. To get into the recovery menu you have to hit the "Menu" soft-key (the one all the way on the left) within 10 seconds so keep an eye on it.
From the recovery menu go into "Boot Options" You should see 5 options, rom-slot 1-4 and Stock. When you want to switch what ROM you are booting you select on the corresponding slot, and hit activate, then you can reboot through the menu option and it will start that ROM.
To install you will go into "Boot Options" chose whichever rom slot you want (most likely #1). You will have to create that slot, which can take a few minutes. After the slot is created, back out of boot options, and go to "Install". Find the .zip of whichever ROM you chose, and select that to install, and then you can install the corresponding GApps package.
After the install is complete, you can reboot (make sure it says rom slot 1 is selected up to), and it should boot into the Setup process of the ROM. If you ever need to go back to stock, just reboot, go back into Safestrap > Boot options, activate the "Stock" one and boot into that.
A few notes, if you want to switch ROMs, or install multiple ROMs you can do that using the different rom slots with a few exceptions. The Cyanogen Mod 10 and the Avatar Rom (most Jelly bean ones I think) have to be installed in rom slot 1, so if you're doing those and another like Steel Droid, put the Jellybean one in rom slot 1 and the Gingerbread on in rom slot 2. Also if you want to install a different ROM, it's generally best to just completely erase the rom slot and recreate it, then install the different ROM in the newly created rom slot. You can always create backups with Safestrap and restore them with Safestrap. Oh and make sure your phone has a decent charge before doing a lot of the safestrap stuff (I would say at least 60%) you can also have the phone plugged in while doing this stuff, but I'm not always confident it is charging so try and get it charged up before hand.
Finally, if you ever mess up to the point where you're worried that you broke the phone, (boot loops or it is stuck on the Motorola Logo) you can download this restore tool HERE. This should completely wipe and restore the stock software on your phone. It will bring it back one version previous though, so be sure to go through the standard update process to bring it back to 5.7.906 so that the root tool will work. This tool has saved me a few times and is pretty easy to run.
Sorry, I know that is a lot of stuff and looks pretty scary. It really is just a few steps that you should research and make sure you are comfortable doing.
1: Get Root access on the stock software on the phone
2: Install safestrap and flash the custom recovery
3: Boot into recovery and install whichever custom ROM you want
If you have any questions feel free to ask!
Much appreciated !!! ..... i will try these steps as soon as i get my phone..... hope it doesnt make a difference if my D3 is an unlocked GSM phone because all service providers in my country uses GSM
Tha slayer said:
Much appreciated !!! ..... i will try these steps as soon as i get my phone..... hope it doesnt make a difference if my D3 is an unlocked GSM phone because all service providers in my country uses GSM
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if you are using gms you may need Rom version with a modified build prop, most of the roms threads will have a modified version for GMS, in the OP or somewhere in the thread. if you can't find it just ask in the original rom thread
also some good how to videos here https://sites.google.com/site/tomsgt123/all-videos/videos-page-4
Hi guys, I have an old G1 at home that I've been using as a time killer, to play chess and some music. I want to try changing the ROM on it, because I have some problems with it, but i'm not sure where to begin. I'll give a quick rundown of the phone's problems and what I'm trying to do. This is an old machine I bought for my dad awhile ago. It's not been used for some time and I wanna to do something with it. It has a lot of problems which I don't understand. For example I cannot connect to google nor through a data plan on a simcard or through Wifi. I've seen threads having some tips on this but none helped. Same problem with some applications - facebook, teamviewer and so on. They just won't connect, although wifi works fine with the browser, so I don't know what going on. There are other problems as well and I think it's running slower than it should because it won't even manage to do stuff a generic G1 should - videos have to be heavily converted to even run - trying any video player is useless - it'll lag as hell. I have to convert to a specific audio and video format with lowered fps, then it runs ok, but still only using the generic video player. Anything else will just become a comic book.
Anyway - this is a phone I got off eBay and it already came rooted and with the Super D rom loaded (kernel 2.6.29.6-SuperD) So because all the problems I want to reflash it completely to try find out, whether it's all hardware related or the rom's unstable... Now, because it is already rooted and I'm new to this, I don't know where to start.
I have looked through a few rooting/flashing guides, but my problems is: I don't know whether I need to do it all, or can skip a few steps, because it being rooted already. For example whether I need to downgrade anything again, or not before going on. My first important question is, is there a point in flashing anything higher than android 1.6? As the phone is very limited with it's resources, I'm not sure, whether for example flashing the 2.2 froyo CM rom will do any good. Secondly: there are several different guides out there and I don't know which one is good for me. I believe I tried the one click thing once, but it didn't work then, but not sure what was the problem. I presume it is because I either didn't have to do all of it, or I didn't do something else I was supposed to.
So all in all, if someone could point me to a good guide, that would take in account the option, that it already is rooted and I just need to change the Rom, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi guys, I have an old G1 at home that I've been using as a time killer, to play chess and some music. I want to try changing the ROM on it, because I have some problems with it, but i'm not sure where to begin. I'll give a quick rundown of the phone's problems and what I'm trying to do. This is an old machine I bought for my dad awhile ago. It's not been used for some time and I wanna to do something with it. It has a lot of problems which I don't understand. For example I cannot connect to google nor through a data plan on a simcard or through Wifi. I've seen threads having some tips on this but none helped. Same problem with some applications - facebook, teamviewer and so on. They just won't connect, although wifi works fine with the browser, so I don't know what going on. There are other problems as well and I think it's running slower than it should because it won't even manage to do stuff a generic G1 should - videos have to be heavily converted to even run - trying any video player is useless - it'll lag as hell. I have to convert to a specific audio and video format with lowered fps, then it runs ok, but still only using the generic video player. Anything else will just become a comic book.
Anyway - this is a phone I got off eBay and it already came rooted and with the Super D rom loaded (kernel 2.6.29.6-SuperD) So because all the problems I want to reflash it completely to try find out, whether it's all hardware related or the rom's unstable... Now, because it is already rooted and I'm new to this, I don't know where to start.
I have looked through a few rooting/flashing guides, but my problems is: I don't know whether I need to do it all, or can skip a few steps, because it being rooted already. For example whether I need to downgrade anything again, or not before going on. My first important question is, is there a point in flashing anything higher than android 1.6? As the phone is very limited with it's resources, I'm not sure, whether for example flashing the 2.2 froyo CM rom will do any good. Secondly: there are several different guides out there and I don't know which one is good for me. I believe I tried the one click thing once, but it didn't work then, but not sure what was the problem. I presume it is because I either didn't have to do all of it, or I didn't do something else I was supposed to.
So all in all, if someone could point me to a good guide, that would take in account the option, that it already is rooted and I just need to change the Rom, it would be greatly appreciated.
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First thing I would do is just factory reset it through recovery (power on while holding home) and see if all works after this. Super d is for sure one of my favorite donut ROMs and it shouldn't be having the issues you have.
If that does little or nothing than write down all info from bootloader (power on while holding camera) here and the version of recovery you have (written in recovery screen)
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Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I've already reset it multiple times, but it didn't change anything. What most angers me, is the Wifi issue (because I know my dad has been using his dataplan and it worked fine and when I tried it later, it just didn't work anymore) and the video thing.
As for the info:
Hboot-1.33.2005 (Drea11000)
Clpd-4
Radio-2.22.23.02
Recovery is ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
Magicnet2 said:
Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I've already reset it multiple times, but it didn't change anything. What most angers me, is the Wifi issue (because I know my dad has been using his dataplan and it worked fine and when I tried it later, it just didn't work anymore) and the video thing.
As for the info:
Hboot-1.33.2005 (Drea11000)
Clpd-4
Radio-2.22.23.02
Recovery is ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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Yes it is strange, try finding a ROM called donut by Laszlo, search is down right now but it should be within the first five pages or so in developers thread. Put on sdcard along with this
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291678371
First flash super wipe in recovery and then flash new ROM
If it all does not work still we will go from there
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Right, so I've got some new info on this. I wanted to go reflash, but just for the sake of it, I re-wiped though recovery and nothing changed. then on the second time, the market suddeny started working through wifi, which it has not for the past few months, even after 3 or 4 wipes. So it started working, but the signal kept failing. It found the first application, downloaded, installed, then "network problem" so I reflashed using the files you mentioned. It worked beautifully on the first fly, for which I am grateful. This was my main concern - I had no idea, whether I needed to change the radio or bootloader or anything prior to trying to flash the rom. So the rom works nice, the market and facebook and teamviewer do connect now using wifi, but I keep loosing the signal. Better said - he stays connected to wifi, just that the applications keep throwing network errors and loose connection. So I presume, it will be either hardware related, or I was wondering, if a change of radio might help... Secondly, I keep getting one more problem I had with the old Rom and that is - when using ES File explorer, when I close by pushing the back button, it closes and then an error says it stopped working and needs force closing. Wondering how this kind of error can transfer between different Roms. Again - posibly hardware related? I don't know.
Anyway, the rom works nice, so I'll try it out and see if it's better than the previous one. One question though - when flashing to a different Rom, do all of them have specific requirements for radio and bootloader and recovery and so on, or is the setup I have ok for flashing anything, that is suited for the G1?
EDIT: One more thing I just remembered. The Superwipe, as I read the description, was supposed to wipe everything + the SD card as well. First of all I noticed that it took just about a second or two, which I thought was a bit too quick, but the SD card was not wiped at all, so I'm thinking, that theoretically there could be a file on there, that causes the problems, that have transfered from Rom to Rom, as it was not wiped at all. I'll reformat the SD card, superwipe it, reflash the Rom and see what will happen. Will post the results first thing tomorrow.
It only wipes ext partition not fat32
Only newer ROMs will require a different bootloader/radio, which also will give you more ram so it is preferred. See ezterrys post on the 2708+ update or read the through the thread below this on where I discussed the benefits of upgrading with another dream user
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Right, so from what I see from the other thread of yours, CM5 should be a good Rom to try. I will definitely wanna go there, cause while the current Rom seems a bit better than the Super D, it seems it uses up more memory - can't install as many apps as before and I'm keeping it pretty low on apps. And I definitely want to see, whether it will improve any of the lingering problems I've been having, or whether it'll be worse. So judging by what you told the other guy, I already have the right bootloader as I have the 2005 with fastboot enabled, but I'll have to update the radio. Here's what I'm not sure and that is, which to choose. Should I stay with the current SPL and get the same radio the other guy had (RADIO-2.22.19.26i) or should I go straight for the 13d SPL with radio-2.22.27.08? I would say, for now would be safer to stay with current SPL, update the radio and then flash Rom + Gapps and see what it does. Plus if I remember right, you said that to get the ramhack I need the 13d spl, which doesn't support fastboot...
You got it all, well you don't need to change radios, the one he has is a Europe version, yours is more us. Both work fine for cupcake, donut and eclair ROMs. You can try out the other if you were getting poor reception but not needed
Cm5 will work fine for you as of now, just full make a backup, wipe, superwipe, fastboot -w whatever, then flash ROM, then gapps then reboot
The ram hack is awesome but so is learning fastboot. I do recommend you at some point upgrade to the .13d SPL but I think its a good idea to flash a few things first and be comfortable before doing so. If you have issues having fastboot is helpful in fixing things
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Ok. So what I did is partition the SD card using the nice "Mini tool partition wizard" and went for a 250 MB ext4, made a backup, left the radio be so far, wiped, flashed the CM5 and Gapps and I have to say I'm impressed at how swift the Rom works. It appears to be generally faster than both the SuperD and Laszlo Donut Roms. I have been testing it only a short while yet, but the wifi, although it shows constantly weak signal (one or two lines), it hadn't lost connection yet, which gives me hope and the apps2ext seems to work perfectly right away. At least I'm able to move them around and it installs straight there, without any failure so far and the apps work so thumbs up.
This deserves a big thanks to you for the supplied info. Before I wrote this thread, I was about to try one of the long guides - which would take me through downgrading and everything - you saved me a lot of stress man I'll play around with this and will try going for the ram hack a bit later. I'll let you know any bugs I notice...
P.S.: You were right to suggest getting familiar with fastboot and adb - it's a great thing and it's good to know I've got it set up and running fine.