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Nexus one screen: color and white shadow

Does anyone experience a "white shadow" problem on n1's screen?
when i read a document, i notice the margin area is not purely white, but there's "shadow" of text on the right
is this a amoled limitation of is it just me?
I will try to take photo if the explanation is not clear enough
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?

Hey, no red hue but i do sometimes have a 'white shadow effect' which i notice looking at text, such as reading an email [not 100% sure if this is same problem as yours tho].
i was worried that this might be a problem with the screen but its just a fingerprint issue - all you need to do is wipe the screen!!
the finger prints left on the screen were what caused my white shadow, wipe the screen clean and all the text is evenly black.
magic

I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.

I have the odd ghost shadows when reading black text on a white background too.

boxmander said:
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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I see this too. I just chalked it up to a byproduct of AMOLED screens or something. Doesn't really bother me and I don't really notice it that much either.

boxmander said:
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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hmm that's strange because i do sometimes have exactly the same problem and can see the problem disappear as i wipe the screen. From my limited knowledge about amoled screens it seems unlikely that the pixels could be experiencing some sort of 'come and go' problem such as this. If someone could put up a picture...

Well for the record this is a very minor issue, I like my N1 a lot, its hardly noticeable. However I am interested in investigating it, and attempting to take pictures of the effect was well, less then fruitful.
It turns out my digital camera doesn't take pictures up close that well, its actually pretty terrible. I was trying to get a screen shot app to try to capture it but the ones on the market are only for root users, and I haven't made the plunge into root, yet.

kiddyfurby said:
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?
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I have this problem and it's very off-putting.
Does anyone know if it's theoretically possible to calibrate the screen à la a computer monitor to reduce this reddish casting? In greyscale photos all shades have a very noticeable pink tone (not photos taken by the phone's camera).

I'm giving this thread a kick, because I also experience this 'problem' of having (faint but clearly visible) ghost lines or 'white shadow' when viewing small text/objects (Nexus One), especially noticeable in the browser. The weird thing is, it completely disappears when switching to landscape mode. Turning the brightness down worsens the phenomenon.
It is also reported at Google's Android support, sadly I can't report the link because of my newbie restrictions I also found one report of the Desire having this problem.
I would ask felow Nexus owners if they want to turn down their brightness and report if they also see this ghosting in portrait view (i.e. when viewing an article on nytimes.com fully zoomed out), so we can conclude if this is an insoluble AMOLED related issue or an actual screen defect of your phone (RMA/waranty-issue).

I have the text ghost image on white background. I thought it was software issue, but since it disappears in landscape view that might mean its a limitation of the pentile sub pixel layout.

I think this should explain it. It's not really the AMOLED, but how the "pixels" are actually laid out.
arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/secrets-of-the-nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars

I read that this issue doesn't occur in the old Dolphin browser. I don't have my phone with me right now. Can someone try it? I doubt it has anything to do with the pentile subpixel arrangement. I mean if the part of the screen is supposed to be white, the pixel should display white, not grey. Probably a software issue, IMO.

I just checked, shadows on both. It's a screen thing.

My bad. You weren't using the Dolphin HD browser, were you?

Thank for your replies I don't think it is the browser though, the same problem persists in Gmail, Adobe PDF Reader and Documents togo, I suggest you use one of these applications to look at small text on low brightness. It might be a little more noticeable in de browser, but looks like it isn't a pure software issue. Can you confirm this finding?
@voiceunebunu: yes, I've read that, but that article concentrates on text fuzziness etc. because of the PenTile arrangement, but does not mention this 'ghosting-like' effect.
Of course this isn't such a 'big deal': I would rather have my screen calibrated so it doesn't show up al reddish and get a better screen view in daylight, but hey, I knew about those problems before I bought the Nexus, but this one seams to be very sparsely documented on the internet.
This effect reminds me of the first, monochrome LCD-displays, which also had this problem (only 100x times worse), especially if they grew older.

Possible work around?
Hi everyone,
I've found a work around for this!
Cyanogen 6 has a feature called "Render effect" and basically, there are options to change what and how colours are displayed.
The last three "calibrated" seem to be for the Nexus specifically. I've used all three and the "calibrated" and "calibrated (cool)" are my favourite. Both slightly change the colour output.
There is a slight yellow tint over whites. For my screen the ghost lines are greatly reduced (it used to be visible with normal size text and exceptionally bad when zoomed out). Now its only slightly visible when zoomed out!
Hope that helps!

display issue with super-amoled

or my screen have problem.
download display color test from market or any other aplication
set your display light to manual and lower one possible.now open display color test, or any other picture and you whil see.... some orizontal lines like gradients.
(for me i can use a lower light to 40 %).
tell me your experience.
please.

Light lowered as low as possible... no probleme here

With some less intensive colors I could make out some kind of lines but I had to watch pretty closely to notice them. If I hadn't been searching for them, I probably wouldn't even have noticed. So it's nothing I would worry about, unless they are more pronounced for you.

CazeW said:
With some less intensive colors I could make out some kind of lines but I had to watch pretty closely to notice them. If I hadn't been searching for them, I probably wouldn't even have noticed. So it's nothing I would worry about, unless they are more pronounced for you.
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for me are pronunced with lover ligt

same here, especially for grey colors, i noticed this first in the application "Programm Manager" (German TV guide) at the home screen.

How to completely Disable Bravia Engine

Since I've got my Xperia T I have noticed a weird screen behavior I hadn't seen yet in any other android phone, whereas the device adjusts not just the backlighting, but also the contrast and the saturation based on the onscreen content.
I outright dislike it, as it's not seamless - you can actually see them slowly changing while you navigate your android screens, and it's not limited to photos and videos, as someone says. It's system-wide.
Just try closing all tabs in Chrome (remain with the dark chrome background icon), and look at the status bar icons: they are pale white, not bright white. Then open a browser tab and watch the address bar colors (sand, white, and black text), go through all of the shades of grey, before finally settling to the right colors. It's not just Chrome... every time your display shows a dark scene going brighter, you can see it happen.
Couldn't it stick to the max contrast and saturation setting, just like what we see in the photo album?
Alternatively, is there a way to disable the bravia engine and make my screen behave like all other screens?
Thank you for any answer

thenext1 said:
Since I've got my Xperia T I have noticed a weird screen behavior I hadn't seen yet in any other android phone, whereas the device adjusts not just the backlighting, but also the contrast and the saturation based on the onscreen content.
I outright dislike it, as it's not seamless - you can actually see them slowly changing while you navigate your android screens, and it's not limited to photos and videos, as someone says. It's system-wide.
Just try closing all tabs in Chrome (remain with the dark chrome background icon), and look at the status bar icons: they are pale white, not bright white. Then open a browser tab and watch the address bar colors (sand, white, and black text), go through all of the shades of grey, before finally settling to the right colors. It's not just Chrome... every time your display shows a dark scene going brighter, you can see it happen.
Couldn't it stick to the max contrast and saturation setting, just like what we see in the photo album?
Alternatively, is there a way to disable the bravia engine and make my screen behave like all other screens?
Thank you for any answer
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I never noticed it before but you are right, i see the same effect.
Even if i disable Mobile Bravia Engine in settings... now as i know it a bit annoying.

remoh said:
I never noticed it before but you are right, i see the same effect.
Even if i disable Mobile Bravia Engine in settings... now as i know it a bit annoying.
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Apparently that setting affects just the Bravia Engine behavior when watching pictures or videos.

I did notice that behavior on my XT screen but i don't think it's a bravia engine issue, i believe is sony stock roms problem. Actually i'm on recCoba's curiosity Rom, wich has the same acreen behavior, but i don't temember too well but i think when i was on jellybam rom the screen was behaving as a regular screen but as i said i can't say it for sure. Someone with a CM bases rom could tell if that happens too on those roms

It has already been discussed -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2020892

Thank you for the heads up
Sent from my LT30p using xda app-developers app

If anyone cares, I made a quick video of the thing in action.
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=75161877A71F52EC!296&authkey=!AOb1Cj-q3GGmAPM

[Local screen calibration] Workaround for uniformity problems

If you think your screen is not uniform, then you know the way it is not uniform. If you haven't realized such thing, please leave this thread for your sanity :cyclops:
UPDATE:
I have done some research and experiments and came up with this solution. If you suffer from uniformity problems, this might be useful. If you are a developer, please consider building around this idea!
Aim :
To make our screen look perfectly uniform without any tint/temperature problems.
What you need:
Download these from play store:
-Screen Filter
-Gradient Wallpaper
Also on your computer [optional , for fine-tuning] :
-Adobe photoshop
How to
1) Open white/gray solid images to observe your uniformity issues. Take a pen and write down, or even make a simple drawing ( eg. left edge is more yellow and right edge is more blue)
2) Launch gradient wallpaper app. Look at your notes and make a gradient which is exactly the negative of your initial tint (eg. left edge is more blue and right edge is more yellow). Save it.
3) Launch screen filter app. Select the gradient image you saved and load it as a filter. Increase the transparency and calibrate it to your liking.
4) (optional) Use Photoshop for much more flexibility with places of gradients/ shapes etc.
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Hello everyone,
Nexus 4 is an awesome phone with minor imperfections. One of them is washed out colors which is fixed by many custom kernels.
The other imperfection is light bleeding, which is a hardware issue. However this and similar issues with hardware causes non-uniformity (or unevenness) across the display specially if it is held horizontally on a white/gray backgrounds.
I have used 10-15 different handled device with ips displays and %80 of them had a visible non-uniformity. Some of us might be totally fine with it while some of us like myself might want better calibration.
HERE IS THE REQUEST:
I have tried fauxdisplay/kernel for a week and I can customize my screen pretty much however I want. The problem is this kernel/app applies the rules for all of the pixels. It would me awesome if we could have 'local' calibrations. (people who use photoshop should be familiar with adjustment brush that changes properties of chosen area).
Tell me what you think about this.

Re: [request for developers] Local screen calibration
What do you mean exactly? And why?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Re: [request for developers] Local screen calibration
Why would we want this? I'm not sure I understand what use this would have.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

mark manning said:
Why would we want this? I'm not sure I understand what use this would have.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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To fix non uniformities across the screen . For IPS screens, when you tilt left you willsee aa yellow tint on the screen, when you tilt right you will see a blue one. If you are looking directly without tilting, right side will be bluer than left side (like a gradient most visible with gray) To fix this, we can tell our kernel to render left side little bit bluer to reduce the gradient effect.
Hope this is explanatory.

maxwellr said:
To fix non uniformities across the screen . For IPS screens, when you tilt left you willsee aa yellow tint on the screen, when you tilt right you will see a blue one. If you are looking directly without tilting, right side will be bluer than left side (like a gradient most visible with gray) To fix this, we can tell our kernel to render left side little bit bluer to reduce the gradient effect.
Hope this is explanatory.
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i get what you mean, but im sure its a LOT more work than just that..
on another note, i read that the optimus g rom on the nexus makes the screen look absolutely amazing - im waiting till someone ports the settings for that onto our phone and hope that this calibration issue ends there.. too much time is being wasted on this (for good measure, yes. but still)

Re: [request for developers] Local screen calibration
maxwellr said:
Hello everyone,
Nexus 4 is an awesome phone with minor imperfections. One of them is washed out colors which is fixed by many custom kernels.
The other imperfection is light bleeding, which is a hardware issue. However this and similar issues with hardware causes non-uniformity (or unevenness) across the display specially if it is held horizontally on a white/gray backgrounds.
I have used 10-15 different handled device with ips displays and %80 of them had a visible non-uniformity. Some of us might be totally fine with it while some of us like myself might want better calibration.
HERE IS THE REQUEST:
I have tried fauxdisplay/kernel for a week and I can customize my screen pretty much however I want. The problem is this kernel/app applies the rules for all of the pixels. It would me awesome if we could have 'local' calibrations. (people who use photoshop should be familiar with adjustment brush that changes properties of chosen area).
Tell me what you think about this.
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You are asking too much.
Yes you are. LCD screens cannot have regional calibration.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

richteralan said:
You are asking too much.
Yes you are. LCD screens cannot have regional calibration.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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I don't know how current calibrating is done, so I'd be happy if some developer can help me out.
There are possiblities:
software filtering -> gpu-> driver-> screen (slow)
gpu-> graphic matrix-> software calibration -> driver-> screen (fast)
gpu-> graphic matrix-> driver-> calibration within driver with given values -> screen (fastest)
if it is the first one, it can easily be done. You can choose what to do to any individual pixel. For example, It is done when there are pop-up windows. While pop-up is bright and visible, remaining area is darkened/grayed with some software processing. So with root access, a program might make sure that some area of the screen is always dimmer, brighter or more saturated than other, while it is running on background. (like a filter that is always on top. This for sure can be done: look at many apps that you can slide from left anywhere within android and some menu pops up. What if instead of a menu %85 transparent and blue [to fix yellowing] solid color stays there?)
If it is second one, well, then it is hard as it needs a lot of C programming- testing. But it will be faster than first option.

Check the first post for the update!

[SOLVED] Xperia T - screen dimming

Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?

naga.nino said:
Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?
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Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?

thrize45220 said:
Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?
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Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.

naga.nino said:
Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.
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All i thought it differs to auto brightness thats why i ask it sir. Sorry for the question then

You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!

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You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!
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This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.

This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine

thedisturbedone said:
This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.
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Dude, this is definitely not a battery saving mode. There is no need for batery saving mode when displaying dark screen, and the problem occurs when displaying dark images or any other dark media, app or non-app. every single time.

Mad Marty said:
This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine
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OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.

Same problem is posted here: http://communities.sonyericsson.com/thread/61560?start=0&tstart=0 and Sony replied "I'm sorry that it has taken so long but I have done some testing now using a later software and I'm not able to replicate the issue that you guys report so I assume it's fixed." It is more than obvious that they like to close their eyes on every single problem that occurs. Thank you Sony for your gorgeous support to your beloved customers. I cant be more sarcastic, of course.

naga.nino said:
OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.
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Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.

Mad Marty said:
Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.
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It's not my way, it's the way it is. If one understands what mobile bravia engine is, one could never offered it as a solution to a problem that has nothing to do with it. I'm terribly sorry if I ofended you, and I apologize for my attitude. I'm not mad at you, or anybody else here, I just don't see why would one write something just to be written. I know my T-Rex wery well, and I know there is no "normal" way to turn this dimming crap off, so I posted my question here, and expected that someone of the experts would offer some kind of solution to that. And I got things like "turn automatic brightness off", or "turn mobile bravia engine off" even though I previously mentioned that i tried all that stuff. People are "trying" to "help" me here, and they didn't even read what I've written. I'm really not one of guys that would post a question here just to be posted, I searched the crap out of the internet, and I found apsolutely nothing helpfull. That's why I decided to open this thread, to hear what experts have to say.

Re: [Q] Xperia T - screen dimming
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.

peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.

naga.nino said:
Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.
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If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor

peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor
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Thank you guys very much! Changed values, and rebooting my phone...everything is fine now, no more stupid dimming. However...I noticed that color adjusment is still visible when changing from dark screen to colorfull bright one. So the dimming is now definitely gone, but that color adjusment is still visible, like it changes contrast a bit, from worse to better, it is clearly visible. Any ideas about that?

I'm uploading a video I recorded with my webcam to get you a closer look. I'll post a link once it's uploaded.

Video will be live here in a couple of minutes: http://youtu.be/fHozO8zGZ1Y
After I managed to turn off DLS, that auto-contrast thing still remains. If you look closely, you'll se that the blue facebook stripe (and everything else) slightly changes its color/contrast when returning from the gray screen. But DLS was much bigger pain in the ass and I'm very pleased with the result od turning it off.

Re: [Q] Xperia T - screen dimming
Why would you want to post it live?
Sent from your backyard...
Slender watches what you do...

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Why would you want to post it live?
Sent from your backyard...
Slender watches what you do...
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Didn't mean literally live lol. It is uploaded, processed and watchable now.